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When is Larry Johnson coming back? (1 Viewer)
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DawgPoundNJ
Footballguy
I just traded for him. I am very concerned with his durability considering the long layoff. I hope he's still in game shape. That said, he may be more explosive with fresh legs.
Otis
Footballguy
Week 11.Yes.
puckalicious
Footballguy
I'm pretty sure he was only away from the team for 1 week. The previous 2 (or was it 3) games he was only "deactivated" so he was still practicing with the team and presumably keeping in shape. I hope he's ready to roll anyway, my lineup without him has been Gore and waiver wire scraps.
Avery
Footballguy
I don't understand the relation. Would he be less of an injury concern if he has been taking the pounding of 20-30 carries per week over the past month?
SpecOpLoad
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Sabertooth
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^^^Super nice schedule coming up and an offense that is starting to find it's groove. Plus a month to give the wheels a rest and should be an alldown back if not only because of the RB injuries in KC, he's worth a solid try.
DawgPoundNJ
Footballguy
Ever notice that the RBs that hold out for long periods of time (cough Steven Jackson cough) and sign at the last minute end up with injury problems? That's what I am worried about although if he's only been away from the team for a week then it's not too big of a deal.Avery said:
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Footballguy
LJ did that last season.
harryhood
Footballguy
read a couple news feeds on MFL that stated he was being used on the scout team to run against the first string D. If thats accurate i think his conditioning wont be a problem.
Personally, if I were the Chiefs, I would dump him and see how far Thigpen can come this year. Bradley and Bowe are young and Gonzalez looks great and I think he could easily play another few years. LJ isn't going to cary them to the playoffs, but finding a legit QB could. Save the $$$ that they have in LJ's contract and shore up the defense.
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Footballguy
Ignore the running game and have the D pass rush every down getting the QB killed? No one is going to carry this team to the playoffs this year. Wether you like LJ or not, if you're KC, you need him on this team and you might get a couple wins when defenses have to start respecting both your run and pass.
FFdork
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I think the OP is asking about his role in the offense this week and the rest of the season. Whether we're talking this year or dynasty there are at least 4 or 5 threads beating the topic to death. Maybe they don't come up because 'LJ' is too short to search?Anyway, I picked him up in a couple of leagues off the WW. I still don't have a feel for whether they see him being a big part of what they do or just can't figure out what to do with him now that they can't suspend him any more.Even if they declare him the starter this week, I'm still going to wait and see what kind of role they give him going forward. For instance, he used to catch a lot passes. This year: 6 catches for 12 yards and Charles was playing in obvious passing situations. Still, the playoff match-ups alone make him worth holding to see what happens.
The Jacket
Footballguy
The OL has made huge strides in the last few games and overall this year (see Jamaal Charles running all over Tampa). I'm hopeful that LJ can make the most of it and really pound out some big games.
Kitrick Taylor
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Here's their rush D rankings:Saints 19thBills 15thRaiders 29thBroncos 27thChargers 13thDolphins 9thGood schedule not great. However, Kolby Smith is on IR and Jamaal Charles hurt his knee last week. LJ's competition is with guys that didn't even make the team now. Pretty good chance he becomes an every down back again. With a very real threat in the passing game for the first time in years, it could be a pretty good finish for LJ. I think with five weeks off in the middle of the season LJ will be healthy, have fresh legs, and my guess is he'll be running angry again. If you are a gambler, he may be a great buy low right now.Sabertooth said:SaintsBillsRaidersBroncosChargersDolphins
pantagrapher
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I agree. I just traded for him.Here's their rush D rankings:Saints 19thBills 15thRaiders 29thBroncos 27thChargers 13thDolphins 9thGood schedule not great. However, Kolby Smith is on IR and Jamaal Charles hurt his knee last week. LJ's competition is with guys that didn't even make the team now. Pretty good chance he becomes an every down back again. With a very real threat in the passing game for the first time in years, it could be a pretty good finish for LJ. I think with five weeks off in the middle of the season LJ will be healthy, have fresh legs, and my guess is he'll be running angry again. If you are a gambler, he may be a great buy low right now.Sabertooth said:SaintsBillsRaidersBroncosChargersDolphins
Sabertooth
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I think he'll carry some teams through the early part of the playoffs (typically the non money round in week 13 and 14 when he plays horrible run defenses. I traded for him a long way's back, right before he flaked out, and I am hoping to reap the fruit of that trade with $$$.
thehornet
Footballguy
I also thin khe'll be nice down the stretch. He seems to have made amends (somewhat with the team) by making an apology. I don't think his December court dates will keep him out of any more games (this year). I have been holding him all season on my bench for basically the last 4 weeks. I think he could be great for your playoffs as well.
Bermuda_Chub
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I was watching Herm's presser last night, and one of the reporters asked him point blank if LJ would start. Herm said "yes," then flinched and backtracked into a rambling answer about LJ finding his niche in the offense. With Thigpen playing like a real NFL quarterback, Bowe developing into an elite receiver, Gonzo being Gonzo, Bradley looking to resurrect his career, and the O-line healthy and gelling, the KC offense, dare I say, looks formidable down the stretch. LJ is fresh and has everything to prove to his team and the KC fans. I expect him to run like an enraged beast for the remainder of the season.
Sabertooth
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I like me a pissed off Larry Johnson. The guy plays with attitude.
Otis
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Couldn't agree more. Get while the gettin's good, folks.
Otis
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Stompin' Tom Connors
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LJ doesn't just play with attitude, he often plays with the WRONG attitude. History seems to show that a pissed off Larry Johnson is more apt to start mouthing off to the coaching staff, in the locker room and to the press. Hope the KC offence continues to develop along its upward trajectory, as not question LJ can be a beast down the stretch. But if Herm does try to get cute and work him back in slowly instead of letting him pound the rock 20+ times a game, then I think his attitude can backfire.At this point, with KC likely looking to get rid of the liability that has become LJ, I think the attitude I'm hoping to see most out of LJ is less of an "angry young man" attitude, and more of a "shut up, get your job done, and make the most out of what could be your last chance in KC" mentality.
Mr.Blonde
Footballguy
Same boat. I've been waiting a long time for my LJ trade to pan out, or at least to not look as lopsided as it does now.
CrossEyed
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What would be a great schedule for you, six games against Detroit?Here's their rush D rankings:Saints 19thSabertooth said:Saints
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Good schedule not great. However, Kolby Smith is on IR and Jamaal Charles hurt his knee last week. LJ's competition is with guys that didn't even make the team now. Pretty good chance he becomes an every down back again. With a very real threat in the passing game for the first time in years, it could be a pretty good finish for LJ.
I think with five weeks off in the middle of the season LJ will be healthy, have fresh legs, and my guess is he'll be running angry again. If you are a gambler, he may be a great buy low right now.
Big Blue Wrecking Crew
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Personally, I am treating this one like a player coming back from an injury, meaning I need a game to see what he can do before he goes in the lineup. Sure that is dependant on your other options, but that is how I see this one.
Arguments to the contrary point?
Arguments to the contrary point?
Kitrick Taylor
Footballguy
Put the best two rush defenses that he plays during the regular season rather that weeks 15/16.What would be a great schedule for you, six games against Detroit?Here's their rush D rankings:Saints 19thSabertooth said:Saints
Bills
Raiders
Broncos
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Bills 15th
Raiders 29th
Broncos 27th
Chargers 13th
Dolphins 9th
Good schedule not great. However, Kolby Smith is on IR and Jamaal Charles hurt his knee last week. LJ's competition is with guys that didn't even make the team now. Pretty good chance he becomes an every down back again. With a very real threat in the passing game for the first time in years, it could be a pretty good finish for LJ.
I think with five weeks off in the middle of the season LJ will be healthy, have fresh legs, and my guess is he'll be running angry again. If you are a gambler, he may be a great buy low right now.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Got to get to week 15 before you can play in week 15 though.Put the best two rush defenses that he plays during the regular season rather that weeks 15/16.What would be a great schedule for you, six games against Detroit?Here's their rush D rankings:Saints 19thSabertooth said:Saints
Bills
Raiders
Broncos
Chargers
Dolphins
Bills 15th
Raiders 29th
Broncos 27th
Chargers 13th
Dolphins 9th
Good schedule not great. However, Kolby Smith is on IR and Jamaal Charles hurt his knee last week. LJ's competition is with guys that didn't even make the team now. Pretty good chance he becomes an every down back again. With a very real threat in the passing game for the first time in years, it could be a pretty good finish for LJ.
I think with five weeks off in the middle of the season LJ will be healthy, have fresh legs, and my guess is he'll be running angry again. If you are a gambler, he may be a great buy low right now.
The Jacket
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I wouldn't argue much to the contrary because I'm not convinced he'll come back and dominate, but the two points I'd make are that he was looking pretty good early this year and produced well when given the carries, and that he practiced with the team in the weeks when the team deactivated him, so he's still going to be in great shape. I'm not concerned about that and wouldn't treat him like a guy coming off an injury.Big Blue Wrecking Crew said:
CrossEyed
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If he was a QB or a WR, I might agree with you. It can take some time to get the timing back. But not with a RB. He wasn't hurt. He had some success earlier in the season. This is a better offense right now and he has basically no competition at the position.He's starting for me this week.Big Blue Wrecking Crew said:
Big Blue Wrecking Crew
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Can't disagree with the two points above. Maybe I am still thinking of the whopping .2 pts he gave me vs. Carolina. Again, my thinking is it will be based upon the other options you have available. Not to turn this into a WDIS thread, but, with Forte vs. GB and DeAngelo vs DET, I think I will still go forward with my plan of "wait and see". But, there's 4 days to make that decision an absolute one.
Would also like to see how he performs in the new offense. Since it is more pass oriented, and LJ has not been active as a pass catcher, does he struggle with that aspect of the offense, or is it like riding a bicycle?
Would also like to see how he performs in the new offense. Since it is more pass oriented, and LJ has not been active as a pass catcher, does he struggle with that aspect of the offense, or is it like riding a bicycle?
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A. He wasn't hurt.B. He was still out there practicing...C. He is basically playing for a new contract. If he doesn't go out there and start hammering out some stats, his earning power for next year significantly depereciates. One thing I know about the modern day pro athelete is this: Nothing motivates him/her more than a payday, or lack thereof, that is on the horizon...Big Blue Wrecking Crew said:
glumpy
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Week 11.Yes.
Odds are good I'llinsert him into my lineup this week--he's got some ground to make up. I normally don't do that until after a game or two (as with Colston and Torain this year) but I'm guessing he's got a point to prove. :fingers crossed:
CrossEyed
Footballguy
He's always been a decent receiver in the past. I don't see why that would have changed.
Beef Ravioli
Footballguy
For those who have traded for him, what did it take? Especially those in a keeper league.
pantagrapher
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I gave Romo for LJ & Lance Moore.
Beef Ravioli
Footballguy
WHAT DID YOU TRADE???
CrazyHorse1581
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Are you basing this on the assumption that he gets cut in the offseason? Because he signed the richest contract ever by a Kansas City Chief last off season. Unless they cut him and take a huge cap hit, he has his long term contract and it's huge.
massraider
Footballguy
Do we know exactly what the hit would be? He may have signed the richest contract ever, but if his bonuses are in future years, or if he received a roster bonus as opposed to a signing bonus, it may not be that big a deal at all.
massraider
Footballguy
According to Rotoworld:
8/21/2007: Signed a six-year, $45.05 million contract. The deal included a $12.5 million signing bonus and contains $19 million in total guarantees. The first three years' base salaries are guaranteed. 2008: $2.5 million (+ $100,000 workout bonus + $62,500 per-game roster bonuses), 2009: $4.55 million (+ $100,000 workout bonus + $62,500 per-game roster bonuses), 2010: $5 million (+ $1 million roster bonus due 3/1 + $100,000 workout bonus + $62,500 per-game roster bonuses), 2011: $5.3 million (+ $1 million roster bonus due 3/1 + $100,000 workout bonus + $62,500 per-game roster bonuses), 2012: $5.9 million (+ $1 million roster bonus due 3/1 + $100,000 workout bonus + $62,500 per-game roster bonuses), 2013: Free Agent. Cap charges: $6.156 million (2008), $8.206 million (2009), $9.183 million (2010), $9.483 million (2011), $10.083 million (2012).
Seems pretty un-cut-able.
8/21/2007: Signed a six-year, $45.05 million contract. The deal included a $12.5 million signing bonus and contains $19 million in total guarantees. The first three years' base salaries are guaranteed. 2008: $2.5 million (+ $100,000 workout bonus + $62,500 per-game roster bonuses), 2009: $4.55 million (+ $100,000 workout bonus + $62,500 per-game roster bonuses), 2010: $5 million (+ $1 million roster bonus due 3/1 + $100,000 workout bonus + $62,500 per-game roster bonuses), 2011: $5.3 million (+ $1 million roster bonus due 3/1 + $100,000 workout bonus + $62,500 per-game roster bonuses), 2012: $5.9 million (+ $1 million roster bonus due 3/1 + $100,000 workout bonus + $62,500 per-game roster bonuses), 2013: Free Agent. Cap charges: $6.156 million (2008), $8.206 million (2009), $9.183 million (2010), $9.483 million (2011), $10.083 million (2012).
Seems pretty un-cut-able.
massraider
Footballguy
According to Rotoworld:
8/21/2007: Signed a six-year, $45.05 million contract. The deal included a $12.5 million signing bonus and contains $19 million in total guarantees. The first three years' base salaries are guaranteed. 2008: $2.5 million (+ $100,000 workout bonus + $62,500 per-game roster bonuses), 2009: $4.55 million (+ $100,000 workout bonus + $62,500 per-game roster bonuses), 2010: $5 million (+ $1 million roster bonus due 3/1 + $100,000 workout bonus + $62,500 per-game roster bonuses), 2011: $5.3 million (+ $1 million roster bonus due 3/1 + $100,000 workout bonus + $62,500 per-game roster bonuses), 2012: $5.9 million (+ $1 million roster bonus due 3/1 + $100,000 workout bonus + $62,500 per-game roster bonuses), 2013: Free Agent. Cap charges: $6.156 million (2008), $8.206 million (2009), $9.183 million (2010), $9.483 million (2011), $10.083 million %2
8/21/2007: Signed a six-year, $45.05 million contract. The deal included a $12.5 million signing bonus and contains $19 million in total guarantees. The first three years' base salaries are guaranteed. 2008: $2.5 million (+ $100,000 workout bonus + $62,500 per-game roster bonuses), 2009: $4.55 million (+ $100,000 workout bonus + $62,500 per-game roster bonuses), 2010: $5 million (+ $1 million roster bonus due 3/1 + $100,000 workout bonus + $62,500 per-game roster bonuses), 2011: $5.3 million (+ $1 million roster bonus due 3/1 + $100,000 workout bonus + $62,500 per-game roster bonuses), 2012: $5.9 million (+ $1 million roster bonus due 3/1 + $100,000 workout bonus + $62,500 per-game roster bonuses), 2013: Free Agent. Cap charges: $6.156 million (2008), $8.206 million (2009), $9.183 million (2010), $9.483 million (2011), $10.083 million %2
Redhot Poker
Footballguy
Any new work on LJ's role this week?
