When to target Julio? (1 Viewer)

[griff321]

Dam guy just had 100 yard in the first quarter you almost have to pay for his upside. His worse case is on par with Roddy White. I don't need to see anymore to know he can't be stopped the way Matt Ryan is throwing him open. He's top 5, that's early third material.

Get ready to take him by mid-second if you want him and if he does it again next week it'll be late first.

 

[Deamon]

Dam guy just had 100 yard in the first quarter you almost have to pay for his upside. His worse case is on par with Roddy White. I don't need to see anymore to know he can't be stopped the way Matt Ryan is throwing him open. He's top 5, that's early third material.

Get ready to take him by mid-second if you want him and if he does it again next week it'll be late first.

I think he's for sure going mid 2nd. And ya, if he puts those numbers up again in preseason then I see him climbing to someone in the 11/12 spot either in their first or 2nd round pick. 2.01-2.07.

 

[Kenny Powers]

What if he has 2 for 15yds next week? What does that do to his draft stock?!

Im almost happy he had a huge game like this. I would easily rather grab a Jennings, Nicks, Roddy, Green basically a 1+ rounds later than taking Julio in the 2nd

 

[Deamon]

If he goes 2 for 15 in one quarter next week then that's pretty decent and his stock doesn't drop at all. It's preseason so it's not like it means everything. But this game SHOWED his ceiling. Can he be expected to put up 100 in a quarter? No. But shows his speed, hands, focus and everything needed to be easily one of the top 5 wr's this year. I liked him mid-late 2nd before this, this puts him to earlier 2nd.

 

[Kenny Powers]

If he goes 2 for 15 in one quarter next week then that's pretty decent and his stock doesn't drop at all. It's preseason so it's not like it means everything. But this game SHOWED his ceiling. Can he be expected to put up 100 in a quarter? No. But shows his speed, hands, focus and everything needed to be easily one of the top 5 wr's this year. I liked him mid-late 2nd before this, this puts him to earlier 2nd.

Exactly.....even moreso because it was week 1

 

[griff321]

If he goes 2 for 15 in one quarter next week then that's pretty decent and his stock doesn't drop at all. It's preseason so it's not like it means everything. But this game SHOWED his ceiling. Can he be expected to put up 100 in a quarter? No. But shows his speed, hands, focus and everything needed to be easily one of the top 5 wr's this year. I liked him mid-late 2nd before this, this puts him to earlier 2nd.

Exactly.....even moreso because it was week 1

Well it's a convergence of a few major factors. He's a highly touted player going into his second season after a decent rookie year, he's had a full offseason where he put in a good body of work, he's been raved about by everyone in camp, and now he's showing it in preseason action to the masses with a very dominant performance. People are predicting him as a major breakout candidate. Right or wrong, if he continues to show more signs of that being a reality his stock will skyrocket.

 

[Grahamburn]

Looks like I'll be drafting Ryan.

 

[We Tigers]

Looks like I'll be drafting Ryan.

Right on. Even just this morning, Julio is up to a tie for WR3 on FFC. I expect he'll separate from Jennings and Andre by tonight. Meanwhile, Ryan continues to sit mostly still--he's only moved up 5 total picks over the past month and is QB11. There's room for him to rise and still be a bargain.

 

[ScottNorwood]

Here's where I'm targeting Julio:

Spoiler

Down by the school yard!

 

[pantherclub]

This type of rise for a 2nd year wideout that had lingering injuries makes me hesitant. I have no doubt that Julio will have some lights out games but you have to understand as well that there is another 100 catch guy lining up opposite him. I dont think I could pull the trigger on him in the first, thats a huge gamble pick. I see he is going as the wr#2 off the board and for the life of me I dont understand it. As it stands right now going by his adp you need to be in have the first couple picks in the second to get this guy. To me that is nuts all things considered. Not saying he isnt worth it but its just crazy when you think about it.

 

[One]

Dam guy just had 100 yard in the first quarter you almost have to pay for his upside. His worse case is on par with Roddy White. I don't need to see anymore to know he can't be stopped the way Matt Ryan is throwing him open. He's top 5, that's early third material.

Get ready to take him by mid-second if you want him and if he does it again next week it'll be late first.

I just saw him taken twice in the late 1st/early second.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

If you look over in the idp forum there's a thread about bramel that has a link to an industry idp draft he was just in - somebody took him 2.02 after 5 qb's went off the boatd

 

[pantherclub]

Dam guy just had 100 yard in the first quarter you almost have to pay for his upside. His worse case is on par with Roddy White. I don't need to see anymore to know he can't be stopped the way Matt Ryan is throwing him open. He's top 5, that's early third material.

Get ready to take him by mid-second if you want him and if he does it again next week it'll be late first.

I just saw him taken twice in the late 1st/early second.

You can easily make the case to nab him in the early in the second but to take him as your first pick is just balls out risky. Granted I can easily see him finish as a top 10 wideout but then again I can just as easily see him on the outside all things considered.

 

[One]

Dam guy just had 100 yard in the first quarter you almost have to pay for his upside. His worse case is on par with Roddy White. I don't need to see anymore to know he can't be stopped the way Matt Ryan is throwing him open. He's top 5, that's early third material.

Get ready to take him by mid-second if you want him and if he does it again next week it'll be late first.

I just saw him taken twice in the late 1st/early second.

You can easily make the case to nab him in the early in the second but to take him as your first pick is just balls out risky. Granted I can easily see him finish as a top 10 wideout but then again I can just as easily see him on the outside all things considered.

Very little difference between taking him at 1.11 and 2.02.I'm personally avoiding WR until the top 5-8 are off the board.

 

[Ilov80s]

The fact that a 2nd year WR that had less than 1000 yards receiving and is working with a multi time Pro Bowl WR in his prime and a middle of the road QB, is being considered as a top 15 pick is nuts and reflects on how deep fantasy is this year. There are a few lobsters and a lot of shrimps in the sea this year.

This from someone that thinks Julio is the next Calvin.

 

[pantherclub]

The fact that a 2nd year WR that had less than 1000 yards receiving and is working with a multi time Pro Bowl WR in his prime and a middle of the road QB, is being considered as a top 15 pick is nuts and reflects on how deep fantasy is this year. There are a few lobsters and a lot of shrimps in the sea this year.This from someone that thinks Julio is the next Calvin.

you forgot with an all pro TE (albeit aging) and 1000yard rusher on the team coupled with the fact that injuries were a concern during his college and early pro career. Again I am not saying he isnt worth it but to pick him at say 1.11 or 2.02 is just a high risk/high reward type deal.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

http://football33.myfantasyleague.com/2012/options?L=26963&O=17

here's another industry draft where he went 2.02

ps

loooooooool fantasysharks already timed out in the first round

 

[Ace08]

His ADP is climbing to the top of the 2nd round. He'll be a 1st round pick in another week or so.

Once Foster, Rice, McCoy, Calvin, and maybe McFadden are gone I would take Julio with absolutely no hesitation. I know many will think this is nuts but I'm a huge believer in the upside down drafting method and to me Julio represents the best combination of safety (his talent is simply too great for him to not at least be "good) with potential for MASSIVE upside.

I think he'll be Mega-tron-ish this year. I could absolutely be wrong...but the beauty is that even if I'm wrong I feel 90% confident he'll still be VERY GOOD. His absolute floor is 10 TD's IMO.

 

[Buffaloes]

situation is a little reminiscent of Randy Moss/Cris Carter Vikings. Superfreak WR across from the steady vet. Minnesota had Jake Reed, ATL has Gonzalez/Harry Douglas. Robert Smith in Minny, Turner/Quiz in ATL. The talent is there and Julio was an elite WR down the stretch last year. He's got a solid QB throwing to him. It's a ballsy move to take him that high (late 1st, early 2nd), but it could pay off big time. That's about the point where just about any other pick has a relatively similar degree of risk (McFadden, Murray, etc...)

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

boooooooommmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!

listening to an 'expert' draft on sirius - fantasy and he just went 12th overall in a 14 teamer.

 

[Wild Young Billy]

boooooooommmmm!!!!!!!!!!!!listening to an 'expert' draft on sirius - fantasy and he just went 12th overall in a 14 teamer.

Well, crap.

 

[Jed]

In the Wisdom of Crowds Contest league (12 team PPR), he went 2.02

 

[prgromek]

he went at 1.06 in an FFPC league

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

I may have to take him first overall in a mock just to have the first sighting

 

[dickey moe]

Simmer down, over-optimists.

 

[-jb-]

Current rankings:

ESPN - 11

CBS (Eisenberg) - 4

CBS (Richard) - 3

CBS (Zegura) - 2

FFT Projections - 5

FFT Rankings - 6

NFL - 2

Yahoo! - 13

 

[Dr. Octopus]

The fact that a 2nd year WR that had less than 1000 yards receiving and is working with a multi time Pro Bowl WR in his prime and a middle of the road QB, is being considered as a top 15 pick is nuts and reflects on how deep fantasy is this year. There are a few lobsters and a lot of shrimps in the sea this year.This from someone that thinks Julio is the next Calvin.

you forgot with an all pro TE (albeit aging) and 1000yard rusher on the team coupled with the fact that injuries were a concern during his college and early pro career. Again I am not saying he isnt worth it but to pick him at say 1.11 or 2.02 is just a high risk/high reward type deal.

Roddy is 31, not old but not in his prime.Tony G is 37, that's not "aging", it's OLD.Turner is 30 - and while he may have anither 1,000 season left in him - what is the relevance of that?

 

[Sabertooth]

Roddy White was targeting in the red zone a ton more than Julio last year. People are ready to write him off already. He and Gonzo are going to dent Julio's value in a big way in the red zone. And Mike Smith like to run down low anyway. I really don't see Julio getting the touchdowns of a Nick, Green, or Johnson.

 

[HeartoftheLions]

Roddy White was targeting in the red zone a ton more than Julio last year. People are ready to write him off already. He and Gonzo are going to dent Julio's value in a big way in the red zone. And Mike Smith like to run down low anyway. I really don't see Julio getting the touchdowns of a Nick, Green, or Johnson.

You are correct about last year in the red zone, but I don't think that this means he won't score as much as the guys you mentioned above. Last year Julio only scored 2x in the Red Zone...I'd think that # has to go up with experience and defenses "focusing in on Roddy" if he is indeed the RZ target.Roddy had 8 last year, career high of 11... how many more do you think Roddy has this year compared to last?Johnson has never been a TD machine... most he ever had was 9? Julio had 8 last year in his rookie campaign (missed 3 games). Nicks has averaged 8 TD's per season in his career... 11 his most ever.

 

[-jb-]

Roddy White was targeting in the red zone a ton more than Julio last year. People are ready to write him off already. He and Gonzo are going to dent Julio's value in a big way in the red zone. And Mike Smith like to run down low anyway. I really don't see Julio getting the touchdowns of a Nick, Green, or Johnson.

he outscored every one of them in limited time last year.