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When will Billick be fired? (1 Viewer)

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After starting 4-2 the Ravens appear to be falling apart. McNair is an embarrasment, Boller stinks and their remaining schedule is brutal (CLE, @SD, NE, IND, @MIA, @SEA, PIT). There is a very good chance they are looking at a 6-10 record.

Brian Billick (aka the Genius) is likely on borrowed time in Baltimore although he did sign a 4 year extension after last season.

Today's question is: when will Billick be fired?

 
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The defense is no longer good enough to make up for the year in and year out putrid offense. They've tried bringing in McNair and McGahee over the past couple years to give them more fire power but are still as boring as ever. The window is nearly shut on the R. Lewis era and I think it's time for a change in Baltimore.

 
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i have to think that a lot of their offensive woes would be remedied by a quality starting QB. mcnair, clearly, doesn't have the stuff to be a starter. they have boller under contract for a few more years. they have the tools of a functioning, credible offense with WR, TE and RB. the defense isn't what it used to be but it's in much better shape the offense. i expect them to make a serious play for a starting QB via the draft or FA. boller will be given a chance to win the job, of course, but i would be pretty surprised to see him starting. the trouble is that a number of teams are looking for starting QBs.

 
I think the combo mounting frustrations (Ray Lewis, 4-5 start) and the general aging of this team will cost Billick his job at the end of the year. I think they'll usher out McNair, Ogden and Billick and bring in a new coach, QB, etc.

 
i have to think that a lot of their offensive woes would be remedied by a quality starting QB. mcnair, clearly, doesn't have the stuff to be a starter. they have boller under contract for a few more years. they have the tools of a functioning, credible offense with WR, TE and RB. the defense isn't what it used to be but it's in much better shape the offense. i expect them to make a serious play for a starting QB via the draft or FA. boller will be given a chance to win the job, of course, but i would be pretty surprised to see him starting. the trouble is that a number of teams are looking for starting QBs.
Why not make Boller the starter now? Can he be much worse than McNair at this point?I am really surprised the Ravens didn't go after Leftwich when they had the chance. He isn't great and is as fragile as a china doll but he would have been an upgrade over McNair and Boller.
 
i have to think that a lot of their offensive woes would be remedied by a quality starting QB. mcnair, clearly, doesn't have the stuff to be a starter. they have boller under contract for a few more years. they have the tools of a functioning, credible offense with WR, TE and RB. the defense isn't what it used to be but it's in much better shape the offense. i expect them to make a serious play for a starting QB via the draft or FA. boller will be given a chance to win the job, of course, but i would be pretty surprised to see him starting. the trouble is that a number of teams are looking for starting QBs.
Why not make Boller the starter now? Can he be much worse than McNair at this point?I am really surprised the Ravens didn't go after Leftwich when they had the chance. He isn't great and is as fragile as a china doll but he would have been an upgrade over McNair and Boller.
With the continued failure of QBs here, bringing in yet another mediocre guy would be treating the symptoms and not the disease.
 
With the continued failure of QBs here, bringing in yet another mediocre guy would be treating the symptoms and not the disease.
Agreed. But the Ravens were certainly expected to be a playoff contender this season. Bringing a more credible backup than Boller for a season would have been the smart thing to do.
 
I think the combo mounting frustrations (Ray Lewis, 4-5 start) and the general aging of this team will cost Billick his job at the end of the year. I think they'll usher out McNair, Ogden and Billick and bring in a new coach, QB, etc.
Mediocre performance + aging stars + big contracts = time to rebuild. They may continue to try to get by with this group of players, patching a hole here and there, but they won't reverse the gradual slide. And rebuilding will have to be done without Billick.
 
Godsbrother said:
saintfool said:
i have to think that a lot of their offensive woes would be remedied by a quality starting QB. mcnair, clearly, doesn't have the stuff to be a starter. they have boller under contract for a few more years. they have the tools of a functioning, credible offense with WR, TE and RB. the defense isn't what it used to be but it's in much better shape the offense. i expect them to make a serious play for a starting QB via the draft or FA. boller will be given a chance to win the job, of course, but i would be pretty surprised to see him starting. the trouble is that a number of teams are looking for starting QBs.
Why not make Boller the starter now? Can he be much worse than McNair at this point?I am really surprised the Ravens didn't go after Leftwich when they had the chance. He isn't great and is as fragile as a china doll but he would have been an upgrade over McNair and Boller.
i don't disagree that mcnair has been a bit of a fiasco this season. he should have been benched but for the fact that billick has a profound respect for mcnair. boller has been inconsistent but has shown more promise this season than mcnair. as i recall, leftwich was talked about but for whatever reason he wasn't signed. however, i am not sure he would have fared any better than mcnair given the sorry state of that o-line. i mean, say what you will about the qb situation, the line isn't doing its job. pass protection and running have been anemic to a large degree because of that line. it's just not getting the job done.
 
He's gone at the end of the year. All the Ray Lewis talk is just scratching the surface. Baltimore has some really tough games left, so theyre going to be lucky to win 6 or 7 games. And the O is embarassing. But then you add in the rise of Derek Anderson, a promising young QB that Baltimore drafted and let hit the waiver wire, with the horrendous QBs they kept, and its a nail in the coffin. Trailing 21-0 to that Bengals defense? At home? Shameful. Last year's record was a fluke. Palmer was recovering from the ACL. The Browns were still horrible with Frye QBing them, and Pittsburgh had several of its own issues centering around Big Ben. Its gonna be tough for Ozzie Newsome, but its time to make the move.

 
Well, they made it to the playoffs last year and had the 2nd best record. The Ravens won a Super Bowl with him as HC. But, this has been talked about on local radio here for two weeks now. There is nothing more painful than to not be a Raven fan and forced to watch and hear about this boring team(mainly offense) year after year.

 
He's gone at the end of the year. All the Ray Lewis talk is just scratching the surface. Baltimore has some really tough games left, so theyre going to be lucky to win 6 or 7 games. And the O is embarassing. But then you add in the rise of Derek Anderson, a promising young QB that Baltimore drafted and let hit the waiver wire, with the horrendous QBs they kept, and its a nail in the coffin. Trailing 21-0 to that Bengals defense? At home? Shameful. Last year's record was a fluke. Palmer was recovering from the ACL. The Browns were still horrible with Frye QBing them, and Pittsburgh had several of its own issues centering around Big Ben. Its gonna be tough for Ozzie Newsome, but its time to make the move.
few people would have predicted Anderson - a 6th round pick, mind you - would look this good. it may be salt in the wound for ravens fans but it doesn't hold up under real scrutiny. it makes for great talk but that's about it.
 
How funny would it be if the Ravens traded for D Anderson from the Browns? I think its possible that DA could be available if the Browns decide to go with Quinn next year.

 
He's gone at the end of the year. All the Ray Lewis talk is just scratching the surface. Baltimore has some really tough games left, so theyre going to be lucky to win 6 or 7 games. And the O is embarassing. But then you add in the rise of Derek Anderson, a promising young QB that Baltimore drafted and let hit the waiver wire, with the horrendous QBs they kept, and its a nail in the coffin. Trailing 21-0 to that Bengals defense? At home? Shameful. Last year's record was a fluke. Palmer was recovering from the ACL. The Browns were still horrible with Frye QBing them, and Pittsburgh had several of its own issues centering around Big Ben. Its gonna be tough for Ozzie Newsome, but its time to make the move.
few people would have predicted Anderson - a 6th round pick, mind you - would look this good. it may be salt in the wound for ravens fans but it doesn't hold up under real scrutiny. it makes for great talk but that's about it.
Not in and of itself, perhaps, but as another piece of the bigger puzzle. QBs who have succeeded elsewhere come here and fail. Or, like Anderson, they leave here and find success elsewhere. Meanwhile, the entire offensive unit, not just the QB, looks uncohesive and disjointed, with nary a hint of improvement. More than anything, it's the continued failure to turn the ship around that will should result finally in a coaching change.
 
He's gone at the end of the year. All the Ray Lewis talk is just scratching the surface. Baltimore has some really tough games left, so theyre going to be lucky to win 6 or 7 games. And the O is embarassing. But then you add in the rise of Derek Anderson, a promising young QB that Baltimore drafted and let hit the waiver wire, with the horrendous QBs they kept, and its a nail in the coffin. Trailing 21-0 to that Bengals defense? At home? Shameful. Last year's record was a fluke. Palmer was recovering from the ACL. The Browns were still horrible with Frye QBing them, and Pittsburgh had several of its own issues centering around Big Ben. Its gonna be tough for Ozzie Newsome, but its time to make the move.
few people would have predicted Anderson - a 6th round pick, mind you - would look this good. it may be salt in the wound for ravens fans but it doesn't hold up under real scrutiny. it makes for great talk but that's about it.
Not in and of itself, perhaps, but as another piece of the bigger puzzle. QBs who have succeeded elsewhere come here and fail. Or, like Anderson, they leave here and find success elsewhere. Meanwhile, the entire offensive unit, not just the QB, looks uncohesive and disjointed, with nary a hint of improvement. More than anything, it's the continued failure to turn the ship around that will should result finally in a coaching change.
meh. anderson has been a surprise to pretty much everyone. had cleveland had even a hint of his potential they wouldn't have drafted quinn or considered frye as the starter. i just don't think it's entirely fair to bring anderson up in the critique of billick. regardless, they are abysmal on offense. 15 ppg? that's just absurd given the weapons - TE, RB, WR - they have. i wouldn't be surprised to see him fired at the end of the season but the same for keeping him. the glaring hole is at QB, obviously. they will make a move at QB. the question is whether they make a serious play for one or simply half-### it with a mediocre signing like Culpepper.

 
Godsbrother said:
Brian Billick (aka the Genius) is likely on borrowed time in Baltimore although he did sign a 4 year extension after last season.
Do you know the terms of the extension?IIRC I read that John Fox had a $20 M guarantee with the Panthers. Rumors are swirling about him getting fired, but from a business perspective it seems highly unlikely. If the Ravens locked Billick into a guarantee of any sizable amount on his extension, that will have more of an impact on him staying than the Ravens' performance. I tried to research his terms, but everything I've read said they were undisclosed.
 
How many years can Baltimore fans stomach NOT having a decent QB? McNair's season last year was probably the best the fans have seen there in 10 years. Maybe Cunningham was better that one year. But to have been with a team for as long as he has, and still not developed anything even resembling a franchise QB is just horrible. Every other team in the league has probably had atleast ONE guy theyve been somewhat proud of. You think of Ravens QBs and you think of who? Trent Dilfer? An old Steve McNair or Randall Cunningham? Dont the fans or front office in Baltimore want a QB they can actually feel really good about? Billick has had alot of years to accomplish this, but at what point will it ever happen? And sadly, they have noone there looking the part. And who are they going to bring in? Chad Pennington? Daunte Culpepper? Or maybe swing a big trade for Derek Anderson or Brady Quinn? Personally, I think they should throw a 1st and a 3rd at Cleveland for Quinn and see if they'll bite. What do they have to lose?

 
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