When would you draft a TE in this format (1 Viewer)

[beast8812]

I play in a PPR league that weights the receptions. .5 for rb, 1.0 for wr, 1.5 for te. All other scoring is standard. We start 2rbs, 3wrs, 1te. I have pick 2 so I will be taking hopefully peterson with my first pick, if not I like ray rice more then foster right now with the injury concerns. I plan on pulling a WR in round 2 and then im not sure when to take a TE. Last year in this draft they started going in the early 3rd round. Im really considering one of the top TE's in the 3rd knowing that when I get my 4th rd pick a lot of them will be gone but its hard to justify that knowing there could still be some quality WR's at the 26th pick. The thing is if you take the top te's from last year gates averaged 5/78/1 in the 10 games he played and witten averaged 6/62/.56 over the 16 games he played. Thats 21 points per week from gates and 18 points per week from witten. I dont see many wr's after the top 15 averaging those type of numbers.

 

[krugoh]

I like your thinking, but if you can't land a top TE with your 3rd pick... I would wait.

The TE pool has become even deeper this year with the movement of people like Olsen to teams that actually pass to their TEs.

While the extra .5 ppr is nice on the TE, it just isn't worth passing on someone like boldin/manningham/aj green/julio jones if you can't land a Gates/Witten up in the 3rd. Zach Miller is now on the seahawks, but I feel like he will get plenty of receptions. Remember, 7/48/0 is the same as 3/48/1 in this format.

TL;DR - Aim for a top guy in the 3rd, but don't reach otherwise.

 

[beast8812]

The only 3 TE's I would even consider for my 3rd round pick would be gates, witten and clark. I like finely and davis but cant justify them at that point in the draft.

 

[ClownDogs]

In a 1.5ppr for TE's and with owners who know that scoring system, the top TE's will be drafted from the early 2nd on. This was just in a 16 team IDP league that i know most of the owners:

VD 1.15

Finley 2.01

Witten 2.05

Gates 2.06

Graham 2.14

Clark 2.16

This is a dynasty league with 45 man in season rosters. Start 1RB, 3WR, 1TE and one flex(RB or TE)

Hope this helps. GL

 

[Scoonie Pencil]

I think people can overreact with taking the top TEs too early. If you think Winslow is going to have 70 receptions and Witten is going to have 90... the format only gives Witten a net 10 points gain vs. regular PPR. The use of a TE in the flex is the bigger story.

 

[Bamac]

Do what it takes to get one of the top five--Gates, Witten, Clark, Davis, Finley. TE production is remarkably predictable. If you get one of these guys, you have very good odds of getting 3+ points per game more than the owner who waits and drafts TE 10-12.

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

I think people can overreact with taking the top TEs too early. If you think Winslow is going to have 70 receptions and Witten is going to have 90... the format only gives Witten a net 10 points gain vs. regular PPR. The use of a TE in the flex is the bigger story.

70 receptions is debatable but there are all the other numbers that you are throwing out of the window. TE's are extremely valuable in PPR leagues. 1.5 Is a bonus.

 

[Jayrod]

AT 1.5 PPR, I think that Gates is a no-brainer at the top of the 3rd. Witten, Clark, Davis & Finley are strong considerations as well. I'd look into taking one there if I were you and already had a top RB & WR.

 

[griff321]

I think people can overreact with taking the top TEs too early. If you think Winslow is going to have 70 receptions and Witten is going to have 90... the format only gives Witten a net 10 points gain vs. regular PPR. The use of a TE in the flex is the bigger story.

Expand on why the TE flex is the bigger story please. I'll be playing in a league for the first time that uses the scaling PPR and starts 2 rbs, 2 wrs, 1 te, and has 2 flex spots usable by all three positions.

 

[comfortably numb]

In a 1.5ppr for TE's and with owners who know that scoring system, the top TE's will be drafted from the early 2nd on. This was just in a 16 team IDP league that i know most of the owners: VD 1.15Finley 2.01Witten 2.05Gates 2.06Graham 2.14Clark 2.16This is a dynasty league with 45 man in season rosters. Start 1RB, 3WR, 1TE and one flex(RB or TE)Hope this helps. GL

Probably should be noted, this league awards bonus pts for RB/WR at 100yd game, while TE kicks in at 65/game

 

[griff321]

I think people can overreact with taking the top TEs too early. If you think Winslow is going to have 70 receptions and Witten is going to have 90... the format only gives Witten a net 10 points gain vs. regular PPR. The use of a TE in the flex is the bigger story.

Expand on why the TE flex is the bigger story please. I'll be playing in a league for the first time that uses the 1.5 PPR for TE and starts 2 rbs, 2 wrs, 1 te, and has 2 flex spots usable by all three positions.

Bump. Looking at previous drafts it looks like it can go both ways(heh). The guy that won the league last year drafted Austin in the first, Gates in the second, and Witten in the third. However Vick was a WW addition for him and I just don't see a WW QB destroying like that again this year. In some of the drafts going down now it looks like TEs are going off the board in a normal order(gates in the mid third and so on). If people make a run early at TE then what's the proper response? Does it even matter?

 

[Scoonie Pencil]

I think people can overreact with taking the top TEs too early. If you think Winslow is going to have 70 receptions and Witten is going to have 90... the format only gives Witten a net 10 points gain vs. regular PPR. The use of a TE in the flex is the bigger story.

70 receptions is debatable but there are all the other numbers that you are throwing out of the window. TE's are extremely valuable in PPR leagues. 1.5 Is a bonus.

Sorry... I wasn't very clear with my original comment. What I meant is... if you'd normally wait on TEs, I don't think 1.5ppr vs 1ppr is as big of a difference as people make it out to be. If I can get Gates/Witten/Finley at good value, I'll take him. But I won't reach for him because of 1.5 vs. 1.

 

[Scoonie Pencil]

I think people can overreact with taking the top TEs too early. If you think Winslow is going to have 70 receptions and Witten is going to have 90... the format only gives Witten a net 10 points gain vs. regular PPR. The use of a TE in the flex is the bigger story.

Expand on why the TE flex is the bigger story please. I'll be playing in a league for the first time that uses the scaling PPR and starts 2 rbs, 2 wrs, 1 te, and has 2 flex spots usable by all three positions.

Relative value of startable TEs doesn't really change that much (with the top 10 at least - thought his format does slightly downgrade guys like Lewis/Gronk who rely on TDs for value - but Cooley/Winslow don't really lose a TON of relative value when compared with the top TEs).Let's say Chris Cooley puts up 70-700-4. Normally... that's probably not going to be flex even in 1.0PPR. That's going to be 168. With 1.5 we add an extra 35 points. 203. We're starting to get into legit flex option here. What 1.5PPR really does for me is change the value of TE when I can start him versus a RB or WR. Think about going Gates-Witten @ 2-3 or 3-4 (Depending on how the draft is going and adding in the fact that Finley/Davis might be the first two off the board in a dynasty league). Witten at 90-900-5 goes from 210 to 255. Now his relative value versus Cooley has only changed by 10 points. But he's gained 45 on RBs and WRs. But just like any rule, it's a twist. Factor it into your decision-making (for example: maybe you take Cooley over Davone Bess now for a flex spot). But don't overthink it.

 

[cr8f]

I'm in one dynasty where it's

WR 1

RB 1.5

& RE 2 points per reception

This is where the top 10 TE's scored Witten at 11 was only player in the top 48

1. 11. Witten, Jason DAL TE

2. 49. Cooley, Chris WAS TE

3. 63. Lewis, Marcedes JAC TE

4. 64. Davis, Vernon SFO TE

5. 67. Gonzalez, Tony ATL TE

6. 72. Pettigrew, Brandon DET TE

7. 74. Gates, Antonio SDC TE

8. 77. Tamme, Jacob IND TE

9. 78. Winslow, Kellen TBB TE

10. 80. Watson, Ben CLE TE

 

[shortbow]

TL;DR - Aim for a top guy in the 3rd, but don't reach otherwise.

+1

 

[SKI]

I'm in one dynasty where it's WR 1RB 1.5& RE 2 points per receptionThis is where the top 10 TE's scored Witten at 11 was only player in the top 481. 11. Witten, Jason DAL TE 2. 49. Cooley, Chris WAS TE 3. 63. Lewis, Marcedes JAC TE 4. 64. Davis, Vernon SFO TE 5. 67. Gonzalez, Tony ATL TE 6. 72. Pettigrew, Brandon DET TE 7. 74. Gates, Antonio SDC TE 8. 77. Tamme, Jacob IND TE 9. 78. Winslow, Kellen TBB TE 10. 80. Watson, Ben CLE TE

Now re-run those with PPG and see how high Gates was (and Finley would be).We use 1.5 PPR for TEs and 2 Flex spots and there were weeks, admittedly bye weeks with major injuries to my RBs, I was running 3 TEs (Gates, Pettigrew & Gonzalez/Cook) out there.

 

[beast8812]

Im defintely going for gates if hes available followed by witten. I kind of like davis too, just since he will get a lot of looks on SF.