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Where did the Jacobs Haters go? (1 Viewer)

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Gerg73

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Since he's 5th in the League in Yards per game and won NFC player of the Month in October, what's not to like?

I asked about him on the FBG Audible Q&A Show and the opinion of the Host was that he finishes top 15.

So, is he still too big to be a RB?

Run too upright (like some guy named AD)?

IS it a RRBC?

Is Ward still going to take his job?

Will the Giants struggle w/o Tiki?

It's funny, 4 weeks ago people on here were calling him Brenda. Where have they gone?

Hoping for another injury?

 
Gerg73 said:
Since he's 5th in the League in Yards per game and won NFC player of the Month in October, what's not to like?I asked about him on the FBG Audible Q&A Show and the opinion of the Host was that he finishes top 15.So, is he still too big to be a RB? Run too upright (like some guy named AD)?IS it a RRBC?Is Ward still going to take his job?Will the Giants struggle w/o Tiki?It's funny, 4 weeks ago people on here were calling him Brenda. Where have they gone?Hoping for another injury?
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Just picked up Droughns this week Gerg.
 
I still think he is too big of a Target. He has the skills but he gets hit hard. Like E Smith said "It's all on how you fall" BJ falls hard. I like him and if he is healthy he will be good. As for th AD comparison, AD is so fast he fall forward at high speeds..Its just less pounding when your flying through the line at that speed.

 
Gerg73 said:
Since he's 5th in the League in Yards per game and won NFC player of the Month in October, what's not to like?I asked about him on the FBG Audible Q&A Show and the opinion of the Host was that he finishes top 15.So, is he still too big to be a RB? Run too upright (like some guy named AD)?IS it a RRBC?Is Ward still going to take his job?Will the Giants struggle w/o Tiki?It's funny, 4 weeks ago people on here were calling him Brenda. Where have they gone?Hoping for another injury?
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please dont do this ...you will only attract the itch that wont go away and you cant scratch(h.k + scooby)
 
Both Ward and Jacobs were part time backs behind Tiki for a few years. When given a chance to start, Ward did very well. I think there were several Giant fans that thought he might do OK as he's always been a useful utility type back, but 90-100 yards a week? Nah that was a big surprise. Similarly no one had a clue how the Giants would react when Brandon returned; RBBC? or still Jacobs' show? I think some of the so-called Jacobs hate was really just Ward appreciation.

I believe Ward is a free agent after 07. In the pressing need sorta thinking, Ward's not really someone I figure the Gmen re-sign with Droughns, Jacobs, and Bradshaw. In the develop and reap the rewards type thinking, I'd figure they'd want Ward to return. It'll be interesting. 4 excellent DEs, 3 that are young, and they're a huge commodity. If they had a RB to trade, Ward or Jacobs, the Giants could be a giant "player" in the offseason.

 
Not a Jacobs hater or lover but wow look at the last 4 opp.

Jets

Falcons

49ers

Dolphins

Last I checked these are the teams near the bottom with denver in run def. I've seen Jacobs run and he looks really good but you are talking about 4 games. Nobody said he couldn't run (i know i didn't) but the injuries seem to be piling up on him.

 
Gerg73 said:
Since he's 5th in the League in Yards per game and won NFC player of the Month in October, what's not to like? His inability to stay healthy. Must be nice to judge him on October and completely forget about September. :confused: Also, he has lost the GL job and Ward gets all the receptions in their RBBC. That is what is not to like.

I asked about him on the FBG Audible Q&A Show and the opinion of the Host was that he finishes top 15. Statistically impossible.

So, is he still too big to be a RB? Yes. He's a sitting duck who can't take any punishment. It's why he's missed the equivalent of four games and failed to finsih 2 of the five he's managed to play in.

Run too upright (like some guy named AD)? Comparing Jacobs to Peterson is like comparing an SUV to an F1 race car.

IS it a RRBC? Yes. Ward is the receiving RB and Droughns is the GL specialist.

Is Ward still going to take his job? Ward will be a heavily used part of the RBBC when he is healthy. Droughns and Jacobs will share carries until Ward returns.

Will the Giants struggle w/o Tiki? Incomplete data. The Giants have gone 5-2 under Coughlin in each of his four seasons. People looking for some sort of proof statement on the direction of the team will not get one unless they makes the playoffs and win at least one game in the post season. Something Coughlin has not done with NY.

It's funny, 4 weeks ago people on here were calling him Brenda. Where have they gone? They have been in here all season.....unlike Jacobs supporters who climb out of the woodwork to start new threads after he has one good game against a horrific Dolphins defense. These same people were in hiding, just like Jacobs was, all through September.

Hoping for another injury? Discussing how fragile a player has been in the past is not hoping for injury, it is stating fact.
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H.K. said:
His inability to stay healthy. Must be nice to judge him on October and completely forget about September. :rolleyes:
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:fishing: Conversely, all you want to do is judge him by September & completely forget about October :rolleyes:
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You are 100% false in your statement. Jacobs barely played in September, so it would be impossible to realize his deficiencies for FF that he showed in that month.1) He wasn't getting receptions in October, so we know Ward is the receiving RB of choice.

2) He wasn't getting 1 yard TD plunges in October, so we know Droughns is the GL RB.

3) He wasn't the full time 3 down RB in October, from points one and two

4) All September showed us was that Jacobs lacks the fortitude to play through minor discomfort.

 
Why god? Why? We actually had some peace in the SP this week. Then you had to put the idiot OP on this earth to start this thread. Why? I bet now he'll run off and start a Pat's thread.

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Busted! Sorry H.k./Scooby. But you just made it way to obvious this time. Thanks for confirming the alias.

 
prymetyme25 said:
Not a Jacobs hater or lover but wow look at the last 4 opp.JetsFalcons49ersDolphinsLast I checked these are the teams near the bottom with denver in run def. I've seen Jacobs run and he looks really good but you are talking about 4 games. Nobody said he couldn't run (i know i didn't) but the injuries seem to be piling up on him.
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what injuries are piling up for his career? People had him as fragile freddy II or somesuch but never noticed how much time he did or didn't miss prior to 07.Both he and Ward got the chance to carry a full load in the NFL and got a bit of a rude awakening as to how rough a job that is. Each got banged up. There's countless other examples of RBs getting hurt their first year carrying the rock in the NFL. It's quite normal.
 
Yeah, the Giants have played a bunch of cream-puffs lately, but he has impressed. I'll still be shocked if he makes it through the season in one piece, but he is certainly a unique talent...

 
H.K. said:
Big Score said:
H.K. said:
His inability to stay healthy. Must be nice to judge him on October and completely forget about September. :thumbup:
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:missing: Conversely, all you want to do is judge him by September & completely forget about October :porked:
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You are 100% false in your statement. Jacobs barely played in September, so it would be impossible to realize his deficiencies for FF that he showed in that month.So if we go by your new logic as stated above, the original poster was correct in completely forgetting about using September to judge Jacobs. :unsure:

1) He wasn't getting receptions in October, so we know Ward is the receiving RB of choice.

I guess the 6 receptions for 24 yards that Jacobs had in October just didn't happen in your world, huh H.K.?

2) He wasn't getting 1 yard TD plunges in October, so we know Droughns is the GL RB.

Last game Giants played before their bye they were 1st & Goal from the 5 & ended up being 4th & Goal from the 3. Jacobs was the gGoal Line back for that entire series, Droughns never set foot on the field.

Against San Fran on a 1st & Goal from the 5...

1-5-SF5 (6:24) B.Jacobs right tackle for 5 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

Yup...sure looks like Droughns is the dedicated Goal Line back to me... :scared:

3) He wasn't the full time 3 down RB in October, from points one and two

Jacobs 1st game back from his sprained knee

Jacobs 20 carries

Ward 13 carries

Droughns 2 carries

Win for the Giants 35 - 24

Jacobs 2nd game back from his knee injury

Jacobs 14 carries

Ward 13 carries

Droughns 8 carries

Blowout win for the Giants 31 - 10

Jacobs 3rd game back from his knee injury

Jacobs 18 carries

Ward 7 carries

Droughns 5 carries

Blowout win for the Giants 33 - 15

Jacobs 4th game back from his knee injury

Jacobs 23 carries

Droughns 8 carries

Win for the Giants 13 - 10

In this game no RB except for Jacobs, was on the field for Goal to Go situations.

In this game no RB except for Jacobs, was targeted in the passing game

There is a pattern developing here H.K. & it seems that for whatever reason, you are unable to discern it. :pirate:

4) All September showed us was that Jacobs lacks the fortitude to play through minor discomfort.

A sprained MCL is a tad more than minor discomfort for anybody. For a RB, who torques his knee when making cuts & must withstand substantial punishment in tackling the discomfort level rises far beyond minor discomfort. Also, the Giants were not interested in having their best back being trotted out there with an MCL sprain & have it aggravated at the least, or completely torn at the worst, thus losing Jacobs for the year.

Extremely assinine comment on your part H.K. :goodposting:
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For the price people tended to pay for Jacobs, in a year when Sjax, Gore, LJ, Alexander, Henry, Rudi, Maroney, Benson, Jones-Drew, Bush, and possibly Parker can be considered as under-performing, I'm surprised if there are many folks that still wouldn't want him on their team. I'm guessing that most folks who rolled the dice on him are looking decent in their leagues.

SJax, Gore, LJ, Henry, Rudi, and Maroney have all lost time due to injury this year - just like Jacobs. To avoid wanting him due to injury concerns seems odd to me. To dislike him because he's played weak teams makes less sense - don't most of us LOOK at that before evaluating a guy?

If Jacobs gets injured again, and is out for the season, and next year rolls around and I'm stareing at him at the 4/5, taking him is a no-brainer - even if I already had two RB's. For the weeks that he is healthy, I'd play him - and that might be most weeks.

:goodposting: Now, I'll add that the point of the thread was to stick it to the folks who had an opinion before anyone saw any action - and I dislike the implication that people who still hate Jacobs should be starting threads every week to let us all know that they still hate him. Please don't do that, the SP is mucky enough. :missing:

But, if you just want to talk numbers based on the value of where people took Jacobs, I can't imagine folks making much of a case so far. You don't have to like a guy to have him contribute positively to your team.

 
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Giants | Bradshaw may play on offense Week 10 Published Sat Nov 10 11:07:00 a.m. ET 2007

(KFFL) Paul Schwartz, of the New York Post, reports New York Giants RB Ahmad Bradshaw may play on offense during the team's Week 10 game. Bradshaw said, "They're trying to get me in there and get me prepared for this game, coming up with different plays. They actually gave me a couple of go-screens to throw to me. They're throwing me in the offense to get me ready and also putting me on special teams."

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Is this to the detriment of Droughns or Jacobs?

 
I'm still here, and I still think he sucks, and will have a very short career. That being said, I hope he goes off this weekend and beats the Cowgirls. :thumbdown:

 
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