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Where does Blount go in the draft next year? (1 Viewer)

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Blount will be a very interesting RB next year. A full training camp with one team will help. Blount is rolling up all his yards on limited carries as well. If Blount gets 20 touches a game plus goal line he could be huge next year.

 
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many leagues are now PPR...BUT, many PPR backs don't score the TD's like Blount will, so it kind of evens out..IMO..I would rank him at RB 15-17

 
He makes a very strong second RB, provided Tampa doesn't add an impact FA. In non-ppr leagues, I'm thinking 3rd or early 4th round. In ppr leagues, I'm thinking 4th...and possibly early 5th.

 
In my 14 team 0.5 ppr I see him as a late 2nd early 3rd. He will go higher than foster because he's got almost a whole season under his belt and Tampa is better than Houston overall. Hopefully his pass protection improves before next season to keep him in on 3rd down.

 
2nd/3rd. RB15ish. Could easily be another guy that gets hyped too much and won't be a huge value over his ADP.

What he's done he's done only knowing 40% of the TB playbook, since he started so late. Give him an offseason to study it and he can be a beast in 2011.

 
What he's done he's done only knowing 40% of the TB playbook, since he started so late. Give him an offseason to study it and he can be a beast in 2011.
I've heard him talk. With a full year to study the playbook, I think he'll be up to about 45%.
 
In my 14 team 0.5 ppr I see him as a late 2nd early 3rd. He will go higher than foster because he's got almost a whole season under his belt and Tampa is better than Houston overall. Hopefully his pass protection improves before next season to keep him in on 3rd down.
I don't see Blount going higher than Foster.
 
I don't think the Bucs will add another RB. I think they re-sign Caddy and have good depth with Graham, lumpkin, and Huggins. They may add another guy to compete for the 3rd RB position if Huggins and Graham have trouble returning to form. The line can't get any worse than it is right now with Faine & Joseph out so that's encouraging news for him. If they add a first day O-linemen his value could increase even more. :grad:

 
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As i've mentioned on other threads, the massive drawback to Blount is the guy's coach, Morriss and their play callers. Countless times on 3rd and 1, they actually pass the ball. Against the crappy seahawks, this would work, but against the better teams this fails and fails miserably as we have seen for the last month. The coach is an idiot when it comes to playcalling. Not to mention that Blount is running for ridiculous averages, huge yards, and every time they get inside the goal line, this guy goes away from his 250 lb RB and starts THROWING the ball or runnning trick plays.

There were entire series when Blount wasn't even in the ball game 5 yards from the endzone. Even on the near last possession, Blount by himself carries the team to the 10 yard line. Blount's next carry takes him to the 2-3 yard line. This guy has run 170 yards or so, but doesn't have a TD yet. You're up by 40 points. Do you take the easy TD and hand the ball off the blount? Do you reward Blount for his incredible work? Do you practice goalline situations which you claim Blount has trouble in? No, on 2nd and goal from the 2 you throw the ball, lol.

The coach has turned the Bucs around, they play with a lot of passion. But this coach is not a great coach, his signal calling is atrocious. And this is the biggest drawback to Blount. If Blount was on the Seahawks, I would value him much more. If he was on the Chargers, Steelers, Indy, or any other team that has a good coach that understands what gives you the best chance for victory, then yes, i would rate Blount VERY highly. Probably the 2nd or 3rd. In his current situation, I would say 5th or 6th.

 
In PPR leagues no higher then 5th round, in non-PPR about 4th round. Freeman and Williams will take away from his value, Freeman had how many td passes yesterday, FIVE. It would help if Blount could catch some passes

 
As i've mentioned on other threads, the massive drawback to Blount is the guy's coach, Morriss and their play callers. Countless times on 3rd and 1, they actually pass the ball. Against the crappy seahawks, this would work, but against the better teams this fails and fails miserably as we have seen for the last month. The coach is an idiot when it comes to playcalling. Not to mention that Blount is running for ridiculous averages, huge yards, and every time they get inside the goal line, this guy goes away from his 250 lb RB and starts THROWING the ball or runnning trick plays.There were entire series when Blount wasn't even in the ball game 5 yards from the endzone. Even on the near last possession, Blount by himself carries the team to the 10 yard line. Blount's next carry takes him to the 2-3 yard line. This guy has run 170 yards or so, but doesn't have a TD yet. You're up by 40 points. Do you take the easy TD and hand the ball off the blount? Do you reward Blount for his incredible work? Do you practice goalline situations which you claim Blount has trouble in? No, on 2nd and goal from the 2 you throw the ball, lol.The coach has turned the Bucs around, they play with a lot of passion. But this coach is not a great coach, his signal calling is atrocious. And this is the biggest drawback to Blount. If Blount was on the Seahawks, I would value him much more. If he was on the Chargers, Steelers, Indy, or any other team that has a good coach that understands what gives you the best chance for victory, then yes, i would rate Blount VERY highly. Probably the 2nd or 3rd. In his current situation, I would say 5th or 6th.
The coaches know what they have - they see Blount every day - they must think that he's NOT a good short yardage back, and Greg Cosell agrees with them . . .
 
As i've mentioned on other threads, the massive drawback to Blount is the guy's coach, Morriss and their play callers. Countless times on 3rd and 1, they actually pass the ball. Against the crappy seahawks, this would work, but against the better teams this fails and fails miserably as we have seen for the last month. The coach is an idiot when it comes to playcalling. Not to mention that Blount is running for ridiculous averages, huge yards, and every time they get inside the goal line, this guy goes away from his 250 lb RB and starts THROWING the ball or runnning trick plays.There were entire series when Blount wasn't even in the ball game 5 yards from the endzone. Even on the near last possession, Blount by himself carries the team to the 10 yard line. Blount's next carry takes him to the 2-3 yard line. This guy has run 170 yards or so, but doesn't have a TD yet. You're up by 40 points. Do you take the easy TD and hand the ball off the blount? Do you reward Blount for his incredible work? Do you practice goalline situations which you claim Blount has trouble in? No, on 2nd and goal from the 2 you throw the ball, lol.The coach has turned the Bucs around, they play with a lot of passion. But this coach is not a great coach, his signal calling is atrocious. And this is the biggest drawback to Blount. If Blount was on the Seahawks, I would value him much more. If he was on the Chargers, Steelers, Indy, or any other team that has a good coach that understands what gives you the best chance for victory, then yes, i would rate Blount VERY highly. Probably the 2nd or 3rd. In his current situation, I would say 5th or 6th.
The coaches know what they have - they see Blount every day - they must think that he's NOT a good short yardage back, and Greg Cosell agrees with them . . .
Blount failed a few times converting early on and has not been given a chance since. Tolbert seems to fail about 50% of the time for SD yet they pound him again, as Choice has in Dallas the last month, as Barber did before that. There have been a number of times that TB had first and goal from the one and failed to score a TD with Blount out of the game this year. Hard to believe that a 6ft 245lb RB could not get it in given the chance.The play that Blount got suffed against Atlanta was fullback lead delay off-tackle..it was nlown up in the backfield and the DT had Blount around the knees as soon as he took the handoff. Spread the field in a one back set and hammer Blount up the middle. Think you would see much different results.
 
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As i've mentioned on other threads, the massive drawback to Blount is the guy's coach, Morriss and their play callers. Countless times on 3rd and 1, they actually pass the ball. Against the crappy seahawks, this would work, but against the better teams this fails and fails miserably as we have seen for the last month. The coach is an idiot when it comes to playcalling. Not to mention that Blount is running for ridiculous averages, huge yards, and every time they get inside the goal line, this guy goes away from his 250 lb RB and starts THROWING the ball or runnning trick plays.There were entire series when Blount wasn't even in the ball game 5 yards from the endzone. Even on the near last possession, Blount by himself carries the team to the 10 yard line. Blount's next carry takes him to the 2-3 yard line. This guy has run 170 yards or so, but doesn't have a TD yet. You're up by 40 points. Do you take the easy TD and hand the ball off the blount? Do you reward Blount for his incredible work? Do you practice goalline situations which you claim Blount has trouble in? No, on 2nd and goal from the 2 you throw the ball, lol.The coach has turned the Bucs around, they play with a lot of passion. But this coach is not a great coach, his signal calling is atrocious. And this is the biggest drawback to Blount. If Blount was on the Seahawks, I would value him much more. If he was on the Chargers, Steelers, Indy, or any other team that has a good coach that understands what gives you the best chance for victory, then yes, i would rate Blount VERY highly. Probably the 2nd or 3rd. In his current situation, I would say 5th or 6th.
The coaches know what they have - they see Blount every day - they must think that he's NOT a good short yardage back, and Greg Cosell agrees with them . . .
Blount failed a few times converting early on and has not been given a chance since. Tolbert seems to fail about 50% of the time for SD yet they pound him again, as Choice has in Dallas the last month, as Barber did before that. There have been a number of times that TB had first and goal from the one and failed to score a TD with Blount out of the game this year. Hard to believe that a 6ft 245lb RB could not get it in given the chance.The play that Blount got suffed against Atlanta was fullback lead delay off-tackle..it was nlown up in the backfield and the DT had Blount around the knees as soon as he took the handoff. Spread the field in a one back set and hammer Blount up the middle. Think you would see much different results.
When they spread the field he is never in the game, they bring in Cadillac which is odd because that is the scheme he ran out of in college. But they just don't trust him fully yet in pass protection or with ball security. The other thing I notice about the Bucs is it seems like they run fewer plays than other teams, seems like every play is right against the play clock. When you complete a high percentage of passes and run alot this is the result. A more up tempo offense would mean more good things for Blount. I see 2nd round value next year in a similar situation.
 
As i've mentioned on other threads, the massive drawback to Blount is the guy's coach, Morriss and their play callers. Countless times on 3rd and 1, they actually pass the ball. Against the crappy seahawks, this would work, but against the better teams this fails and fails miserably as we have seen for the last month. The coach is an idiot when it comes to playcalling. Not to mention that Blount is running for ridiculous averages, huge yards, and every time they get inside the goal line, this guy goes away from his 250 lb RB and starts THROWING the ball or runnning trick plays.There were entire series when Blount wasn't even in the ball game 5 yards from the endzone. Even on the near last possession, Blount by himself carries the team to the 10 yard line. Blount's next carry takes him to the 2-3 yard line. This guy has run 170 yards or so, but doesn't have a TD yet. You're up by 40 points. Do you take the easy TD and hand the ball off the blount? Do you reward Blount for his incredible work? Do you practice goalline situations which you claim Blount has trouble in? No, on 2nd and goal from the 2 you throw the ball, lol.The coach has turned the Bucs around, they play with a lot of passion. But this coach is not a great coach, his signal calling is atrocious. And this is the biggest drawback to Blount. If Blount was on the Seahawks, I would value him much more. If he was on the Chargers, Steelers, Indy, or any other team that has a good coach that understands what gives you the best chance for victory, then yes, i would rate Blount VERY highly. Probably the 2nd or 3rd. In his current situation, I would say 5th or 6th.
The coaches know what they have - they see Blount every day - they must think that he's NOT a good short yardage back, and Greg Cosell agrees with them . . .
Blount failed a few times converting early on and has not been given a chance since. Tolbert seems to fail about 50% of the time for SD yet they pound him again, as Choice has in Dallas the last month, as Barber did before that. There have been a number of times that TB had first and goal from the one and failed to score a TD with Blount out of the game this year. Hard to believe that a 6ft 245lb RB could not get it in given the chance.The play that Blount got suffed against Atlanta was fullback lead delay off-tackle..it was nlown up in the backfield and the DT had Blount around the knees as soon as he took the handoff. Spread the field in a one back set and hammer Blount up the middle. Think you would see much different results.
When they spread the field he is never in the game, they bring in Cadillac which is odd because that is the scheme he ran out of in college. But they just don't trust him fully yet in pass protection or with ball security. The other thing I notice about the Bucs is it seems like they run fewer plays than other teams, seems like every play is right against the play clock. When you complete a high percentage of passes and run alot this is the result. A more up tempo offense would mean more good things for Blount. I see 2nd round value next year in a similar situation.
good point - they know Blount can't pass protect so spreading the field makes no sense with him in the game, the D would sniff out a run in seconds . . .so Blount is not a pass protector and he's not good in short yardage, so that's two reasons why he will be (probably) overrated in 2011 . . .
 
In his last 10 games with a team he wasn't in training camp for, he's on a pace that would put him at ~1450 yds ~10 TDs for a season. This should get people pretty excited in the offseason. If Shonn Greene made his way into the 2nd round with LT signing there then Blount should get similar hype so long as the Bucs don't draft a guy in the first two rounds or make a big FA signing.
I am not sure where you are going with this...by mentioning Greene, are you saying people will learn their lesson and NOT draft him early? Or are you saying they will follow like lemmings (not a bad thought at all) and draft him according to his amortized #s...my gut tells me people may be hesitant and he falls to 3rd/4th round status (much due to the fact they were burned by Greene or saw what happened)...but you could be absolutely right on this.Personally, i will see what the TB homers do in fantasty. I am in a heavy Jets fan PPR league, and Greene dropped further than in any of my other leagues. I think it had to do with the fact that we just did not "see" what everyone else did, but in the end, we were VERY right.
 
After being arguably the best FA RB pick up in 2010, he'll be at the peak of his hype curve in the 2011 draft and be way overvalued. His 2011 season will then appear to be a disappointment to those who drafted him way too early. Which will result in him being a great undervalued pickup in 2012 as a young 2 season veteran with awesome talent.

 
i think its a decent gamble that this guy will "figure out" how to run at the gl and short yardage spots. hes huge and fast and agile, not really sure where the disconnect is.

 
i think its a decent gamble that this guy will "figure out" how to run at the gl and short yardage spots. hes huge and fast and agile, not really sure where the disconnect is.
it has been said that he doesnt really deliver contact, he braces for it . . .
 
I think I said this in the Shonne Greene and Jamal Charles threads prior to this year. I was 50% this year. For your early round picks, never draft a guy based upon a late season surge with limited playing time and project his stats for a full season or you end up with a team full of William Green, Kevan Barlow, Shonne Greene (and yes the occasional Jamal Charles).

I have never really gotten over the William Green 3rd round pick and probably never will.

I like BLount and think he may be a great player for next year but the cost will most likely be too high for me with his limited track record.

 
What we saw there last 6-7 games could be his floor. Limited touches, no goal line work, no passing game work and still very productive. With goal line and 30-35 receptions who knows what the ceiling could be.

 
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As i've mentioned on other threads, the massive drawback to Blount is the guy's coach, Morriss and their play callers. Countless times on 3rd and 1, they actually pass the ball. Against the crappy seahawks, this would work, but against the better teams this fails and fails miserably as we have seen for the last month. The coach is an idiot when it comes to playcalling. Not to mention that Blount is running for ridiculous averages, huge yards, and every time they get inside the goal line, this guy goes away from his 250 lb RB and starts THROWING the ball or runnning trick plays.There were entire series when Blount wasn't even in the ball game 5 yards from the endzone. Even on the near last possession, Blount by himself carries the team to the 10 yard line. Blount's next carry takes him to the 2-3 yard line. This guy has run 170 yards or so, but doesn't have a TD yet. You're up by 40 points. Do you take the easy TD and hand the ball off the blount? Do you reward Blount for his incredible work? Do you practice goalline situations which you claim Blount has trouble in? No, on 2nd and goal from the 2 you throw the ball, lol.The coach has turned the Bucs around, they play with a lot of passion. But this coach is not a great coach, his signal calling is atrocious. And this is the biggest drawback to Blount. If Blount was on the Seahawks, I would value him much more. If he was on the Chargers, Steelers, Indy, or any other team that has a good coach that understands what gives you the best chance for victory, then yes, i would rate Blount VERY highly. Probably the 2nd or 3rd. In his current situation, I would say 5th or 6th.
The coaches know what they have - they see Blount every day - they must think that he's NOT a good short yardage back, and Greg Cosell agrees with them . . .
By this logic then coaches always make the right decision because they see it in practice. Let me ask you, when Andy Reid, one of the best QB coaches of ALL TIME, sat Vick for the entire year last year (a year in his PRIME) as the 3rd string QB, did he make the right decision? What about the start of this year, when Vick was the backup QB for Kolb? Did he make the right decision due to all the stuff he saw in practice? The only reason Vick even got a chance was due to a luck injury to Kolb. Even after his terrific performance in the first few games, Reid still wanted to start Kolb once he got healthy, only due to intense pressure from fans and elsewhere did he finally change his mind and start Vick. Now Vick is a MVP candidate and one of the best QBs in the league. Did Reid make the right decision because he saw him more than us?What about Arian Foster as an undrafted free agent? The kid was on the practice sqaud of some team, any other team could have signed him for free. Now, after getting his shot, he is the best or one of the best RBs in the league. Did the coaches who saw him in practice make the right decision by keeping him on the practice squad? Peyton Hillis was traded for peanuts, did the Denver coaches make the right decision? The guy is now one of the best RBs in the league statistically.I could go on and on, but this post is getting long...
 
As i've mentioned on other threads, the massive drawback to Blount is the guy's coach, Morriss and their play callers. Countless times on 3rd and 1, they actually pass the ball. Against the crappy seahawks, this would work, but against the better teams this fails and fails miserably as we have seen for the last month. The coach is an idiot when it comes to playcalling. Not to mention that Blount is running for ridiculous averages, huge yards, and every time they get inside the goal line, this guy goes away from his 250 lb RB and starts THROWING the ball or runnning trick plays.There were entire series when Blount wasn't even in the ball game 5 yards from the endzone. Even on the near last possession, Blount by himself carries the team to the 10 yard line. Blount's next carry takes him to the 2-3 yard line. This guy has run 170 yards or so, but doesn't have a TD yet. You're up by 40 points. Do you take the easy TD and hand the ball off the blount? Do you reward Blount for his incredible work? Do you practice goalline situations which you claim Blount has trouble in? No, on 2nd and goal from the 2 you throw the ball, lol.The coach has turned the Bucs around, they play with a lot of passion. But this coach is not a great coach, his signal calling is atrocious. And this is the biggest drawback to Blount. If Blount was on the Seahawks, I would value him much more. If he was on the Chargers, Steelers, Indy, or any other team that has a good coach that understands what gives you the best chance for victory, then yes, i would rate Blount VERY highly. Probably the 2nd or 3rd. In his current situation, I would say 5th or 6th.
The coaches know what they have - they see Blount every day - they must think that he's NOT a good short yardage back, and Greg Cosell agrees with them . . .
Blount failed a few times converting early on and has not been given a chance since. Tolbert seems to fail about 50% of the time for SD yet they pound him again, as Choice has in Dallas the last month, as Barber did before that. There have been a number of times that TB had first and goal from the one and failed to score a TD with Blount out of the game this year. Hard to believe that a 6ft 245lb RB could not get it in given the chance.The play that Blount got suffed against Atlanta was fullback lead delay off-tackle..it was nlown up in the backfield and the DT had Blount around the knees as soon as he took the handoff. Spread the field in a one back set and hammer Blount up the middle. Think you would see much different results.
:goodposting: I think last week it was, Tolbert got 6 straight chances inside the 10 yard line! 6 straight run plays right up the middle! Of course it ended in a TD. With blount, they give him 1 shot and then run a pass play or trick plays. A couple weeks ago, they had the ball on the 2 yard line, with 1st down. They gave Blount 1 chance, he got to the 1, and then they ran a full back pass, lol. They got in the endzone with this trick play, this time, tbut there has been countless other times when they have failed and it has cost the Bucs the game. I remember in the same game as above, they had 2 different 3rd and 1 to go, the first they passed the ball 60 yards down field and the 2nd they did a 10 yard slant. They failed at both.Blount is a load and can turn into a stud even in short yardage. He is averaging like 5-6 yards per carry for goodness sakes. The playcalling in Tampa is horrid. Even a highschool coach can call better plays, especially in short yardage or goalline downs.
 
Where Blount goes in redrafts next year will depend on what happens during the offseason. I dont think Blount is an every down back, but might make a nice peice of a RBBC, along with a speedier, more elusive back that can catch. Its possible they might even get a guy they trust more at the goalline. I could see the Bucs making a play for Deangelo Williams or drafting a Rb in the first 3 rounds. Either way, i dont think the Bucs trust Blount as an every down back, and i dont think he goes into next season as one.

By draft time next year i dont think Blount will be going in the first 5 rounds.

 
What he's done he's done only knowing 40% of the TB playbook, since he started so late. Give him an offseason to study it and he can be a beast in 2011.
I've heard him talk. With a full year to study the playbook, I think he'll be up to about 45%.
Hmmm. Not sure why you say this. You must have caught him on a bad day. The Blount I've heard is courteous, respectful, and intelligent...

 
After being arguably the best FA RB pick up in 2010, he'll be at the peak of his hype curve in the 2011 draft and be way overvalued. His 2011 season will then appear to be a disappointment to those who drafted him way too early. Which will result in him being a great undervalued pickup in 2012 as a young 2 season veteran with awesome talent.
Any thoughts on his 2016 season?
 
After being arguably the best FA RB pick up in 2010, he'll be at the peak of his hype curve in the 2011 draft and be way overvalued. His 2011 season will then appear to be a disappointment to those who drafted him way too early. Which will result in him being a great undervalued pickup in 2012 as a young 2 season veteran with awesome talent.
Any thoughts on his 2016 season?
Yeah, out of the NFL.
 
plyka said:
As i've mentioned on other threads, the massive drawback to Blount is the guy's coach, Morriss and their play callers. Countless times on 3rd and 1, they actually pass the ball. Against the crappy seahawks, this would work, but against the better teams this fails and fails miserably as we have seen for the last month. The coach is an idiot when it comes to playcalling. Not to mention that Blount is running for ridiculous averages, huge yards, and every time they get inside the goal line, this guy goes away from his 250 lb RB and starts THROWING the ball or runnning trick plays.There were entire series when Blount wasn't even in the ball game 5 yards from the endzone. Even on the near last possession, Blount by himself carries the team to the 10 yard line. Blount's next carry takes him to the 2-3 yard line. This guy has run 170 yards or so, but doesn't have a TD yet. You're up by 40 points. Do you take the easy TD and hand the ball off the blount? Do you reward Blount for his incredible work? Do you practice goalline situations which you claim Blount has trouble in? No, on 2nd and goal from the 2 you throw the ball, lol.The coach has turned the Bucs around, they play with a lot of passion. But this coach is not a great coach, his signal calling is atrocious. And this is the biggest drawback to Blount. If Blount was on the Seahawks, I would value him much more. If he was on the Chargers, Steelers, Indy, or any other team that has a good coach that understands what gives you the best chance for victory, then yes, i would rate Blount VERY highly. Probably the 2nd or 3rd. In his current situation, I would say 5th or 6th.
The coaches know what they have - they see Blount every day - they must think that he's NOT a good short yardage back, and Greg Cosell agrees with them . . .
By this logic then coaches always make the right decision because they see it in practice. Let me ask you, when Andy Reid, one of the best QB coaches of ALL TIME, sat Vick for the entire year last year (a year in his PRIME) as the 3rd string QB, did he make the right decision? What about the start of this year, when Vick was the backup QB for Kolb? Did he make the right decision due to all the stuff he saw in practice? The only reason Vick even got a chance was due to a luck injury to Kolb. Even after his terrific performance in the first few games, Reid still wanted to start Kolb once he got healthy, only due to intense pressure from fans and elsewhere did he finally change his mind and start Vick. Now Vick is a MVP candidate and one of the best QBs in the league. Did Reid make the right decision because he saw him more than us?What about Arian Foster as an undrafted free agent? The kid was on the practice sqaud of some team, any other team could have signed him for free. Now, after getting his shot, he is the best or one of the best RBs in the league. Did the coaches who saw him in practice make the right decision by keeping him on the practice squad? Peyton Hillis was traded for peanuts, did the Denver coaches make the right decision? The guy is now one of the best RBs in the league statistically.I could go on and on, but this post is getting long...
love this kind of logic - point out of few anomalies and suddenly every coach is clueless . . .yes coaches make mistakes, like we ALL do - but most of the time they do it right . . .we can compare our knowledge (looking at numbers and some games on Sunday), to theirs (watching their players every day live and on tape) . . .no comparison, most of the time they know VASTLY more than we do, and it's not even close . . .
 
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As i've mentioned on other threads, the massive drawback to Blount is the guy's coach, Morriss and their play callers. Countless times on 3rd and 1, they actually pass the ball. Against the crappy seahawks, this would work, but against the better teams this fails and fails miserably as we have seen for the last month. The coach is an idiot when it comes to playcalling. Not to mention that Blount is running for ridiculous averages, huge yards, and every time they get inside the goal line, this guy goes away from his 250 lb RB and starts THROWING the ball or runnning trick plays.There were entire series when Blount wasn't even in the ball game 5 yards from the endzone. Even on the near last possession, Blount by himself carries the team to the 10 yard line. Blount's next carry takes him to the 2-3 yard line. This guy has run 170 yards or so, but doesn't have a TD yet. You're up by 40 points. Do you take the easy TD and hand the ball off the blount? Do you reward Blount for his incredible work? Do you practice goalline situations which you claim Blount has trouble in? No, on 2nd and goal from the 2 you throw the ball, lol.The coach has turned the Bucs around, they play with a lot of passion. But this coach is not a great coach, his signal calling is atrocious. And this is the biggest drawback to Blount. If Blount was on the Seahawks, I would value him much more. If he was on the Chargers, Steelers, Indy, or any other team that has a good coach that understands what gives you the best chance for victory, then yes, i would rate Blount VERY highly. Probably the 2nd or 3rd. In his current situation, I would say 5th or 6th.
The coaches know what they have - they see Blount every day - they must think that he's NOT a good short yardage back, and Greg Cosell agrees with them . . .
By this logic then coaches always make the right decision because they see it in practice. Let me ask you, when Andy Reid, one of the best QB coaches of ALL TIME, sat Vick for the entire year last year (a year in his PRIME) as the 3rd string QB, did he make the right decision? What about the start of this year, when Vick was the backup QB for Kolb? Did he make the right decision due to all the stuff he saw in practice? The only reason Vick even got a chance was due to a luck injury to Kolb. Even after his terrific performance in the first few games, Reid still wanted to start Kolb once he got healthy, only due to intense pressure from fans and elsewhere did he finally change his mind and start Vick. Now Vick is a MVP candidate and one of the best QBs in the league. Did Reid make the right decision because he saw him more than us?What about Arian Foster as an undrafted free agent? The kid was on the practice sqaud of some team, any other team could have signed him for free. Now, after getting his shot, he is the best or one of the best RBs in the league. Did the coaches who saw him in practice make the right decision by keeping him on the practice squad? Peyton Hillis was traded for peanuts, did the Denver coaches make the right decision? The guy is now one of the best RBs in the league statistically.I could go on and on, but this post is getting long...
love this kind of logic - point out of few anomalies and suddenly every coach is clueless . . .yes coaches make mistakes, like we ALL do - but most of the time they do it right . . .we can compare our knowledge (looking at numbers and some games on Sunday), to theirs (watching their players every day live and on tape) . . .no comparison, most of the time they know VASTLY more than we do, and it's not even close . . .
But Plyka owns Blount in multiple dynasty leagues, he clearly knows what the Bucs should do better than the coaching staff.In Plykas defense, we all get a little biased with our players, i just think he is going a bit far.
 
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As i've mentioned on other threads, the massive drawback to Blount is the guy's coach, Morriss and their play callers. Countless times on 3rd and 1, they actually pass the ball. Against the crappy seahawks, this would work, but against the better teams this fails and fails miserably as we have seen for the last month. The coach is an idiot when it comes to playcalling. Not to mention that Blount is running for ridiculous averages, huge yards, and every time they get inside the goal line, this guy goes away from his 250 lb RB and starts THROWING the ball or runnning trick plays.There were entire series when Blount wasn't even in the ball game 5 yards from the endzone. Even on the near last possession, Blount by himself carries the team to the 10 yard line. Blount's next carry takes him to the 2-3 yard line. This guy has run 170 yards or so, but doesn't have a TD yet. You're up by 40 points. Do you take the easy TD and hand the ball off the blount? Do you reward Blount for his incredible work? Do you practice goalline situations which you claim Blount has trouble in? No, on 2nd and goal from the 2 you throw the ball, lol.The coach has turned the Bucs around, they play with a lot of passion. But this coach is not a great coach, his signal calling is atrocious. And this is the biggest drawback to Blount. If Blount was on the Seahawks, I would value him much more. If he was on the Chargers, Steelers, Indy, or any other team that has a good coach that understands what gives you the best chance for victory, then yes, i would rate Blount VERY highly. Probably the 2nd or 3rd. In his current situation, I would say 5th or 6th.
The coaches know what they have - they see Blount every day - they must think that he's NOT a good short yardage back, and Greg Cosell agrees with them . . .
By this logic then coaches always make the right decision because they see it in practice. Let me ask you, when Andy Reid, one of the best QB coaches of ALL TIME, sat Vick for the entire year last year (a year in his PRIME) as the 3rd string QB, did he make the right decision? What about the start of this year, when Vick was the backup QB for Kolb? Did he make the right decision due to all the stuff he saw in practice? The only reason Vick even got a chance was due to a luck injury to Kolb. Even after his terrific performance in the first few games, Reid still wanted to start Kolb once he got healthy, only due to intense pressure from fans and elsewhere did he finally change his mind and start Vick. Now Vick is a MVP candidate and one of the best QBs in the league. Did Reid make the right decision because he saw him more than us?What about Arian Foster as an undrafted free agent? The kid was on the practice sqaud of some team, any other team could have signed him for free. Now, after getting his shot, he is the best or one of the best RBs in the league. Did the coaches who saw him in practice make the right decision by keeping him on the practice squad? Peyton Hillis was traded for peanuts, did the Denver coaches make the right decision? The guy is now one of the best RBs in the league statistically.I could go on and on, but this post is getting long...
love this kind of logic - point out of few anomalies and suddenly every coach is clueless . . .yes coaches make mistakes, like we ALL do - but most of the time they do it right . . .we can compare our knowledge (looking at numbers and some games on Sunday), to theirs (watching their players every day live and on tape) . . .no comparison, most of the time they know VASTLY more than we do, and it's not even close . . .
But Plyka owns Blount in multiple dynasty leagues, he clearly knows what the Bucs should do better than the coaching staff.In Plykas defense, we all get a little biased with our players, i just think he is going a bit far.
I know - but we take this stuff too seriously . . .as an example, suppose that any of us take a three week vacation in the middle of the season to be a guest "assistant coach" for an NFL team. we get to attend every practice, offensive meetings, planning sessions, film sessions, etc. Our knowledge of players of that team would undoubtedly increase exponentially. So why do we act like we know everything now and the coaches of that team know nothing??
 
I know - but we take this stuff too seriously . . .as an example, suppose that any of us take a three week vacation in the middle of the season to be a guest "assistant coach" for an NFL team. we get to attend every practice, offensive meetings, planning sessions, film sessions, etc. Our knowledge of players of that team would undoubtedly increase exponentially. So why do we act like we know everything now and the coaches of that team know nothing??
I agree with you. I will actually take it a step further. Even if I do get to do all that stuff, i still wouldnt know half of what the coaches know. There is a reason the Blount is only getting so many touches and in certain situations. His success does get me excited about something, it just isnt Blount. Its what a real NFL back might do in his situation. Deangelo Williams would instantly be a top 5 pick in redrafts next year if he goes to TB.
 
I know - but we take this stuff too seriously . . .

as an example, suppose that any of us take a three week vacation in the middle of the season to be a guest "assistant coach" for an NFL team. we get to attend every practice, offensive meetings, planning sessions, film sessions, etc. Our knowledge of players of that team would undoubtedly increase exponentially. So why do we act like we know everything now and the coaches of that team know nothing??
I agree with you. I will actually take it a step further. Even if I do get to do all that stuff, i still wouldnt know half of what the coaches know. There is a reason the Blount is only getting so many touches and in certain situations. His success does get me excited about something, it just isnt Blount. Its what a real NFL back might do in his situation. Deangelo Williams would instantly be a top 5 pick in redrafts next year if he goes to TB.
totally agree with this statement . . .

 
I think he goes in the 3rd round of most 12 team redrafts.

He appears to be the starting RB of the Bucs for the forseeable future. That offense is young, talented and can put points on the board. I liken him to Michael Turner.

 
I know - but we take this stuff too seriously . . .as an example, suppose that any of us take a three week vacation in the middle of the season to be a guest "assistant coach" for an NFL team. we get to attend every practice, offensive meetings, planning sessions, film sessions, etc. Our knowledge of players of that team would undoubtedly increase exponentially. So why do we act like we know everything now and the coaches of that team know nothing??
I agree with you. I will actually take it a step further. Even if I do get to do all that stuff, i still wouldnt know half of what the coaches know. There is a reason the Blount is only getting so many touches and in certain situations. His success does get me excited about something, it just isnt Blount. Its what a real NFL back might do in his situation. Deangelo Williams would instantly be a top 5 pick in redrafts next year if he goes to TB.
there is also a reason he went from an undrafted back that hardly played his senior yr to a crucial part of the offense. there is also a reason he is breaking off highlight reel runs routinely. hes better than you think he is.
 
I know - but we take this stuff too seriously . . .as an example, suppose that any of us take a three week vacation in the middle of the season to be a guest "assistant coach" for an NFL team. we get to attend every practice, offensive meetings, planning sessions, film sessions, etc. Our knowledge of players of that team would undoubtedly increase exponentially. So why do we act like we know everything now and the coaches of that team know nothing??
I agree with you. I will actually take it a step further. Even if I do get to do all that stuff, i still wouldnt know half of what the coaches know. There is a reason the Blount is only getting so many touches and in certain situations. His success does get me excited about something, it just isnt Blount. Its what a real NFL back might do in his situation. Deangelo Williams would instantly be a top 5 pick in redrafts next year if he goes to TB.
huh? The Bucs run game was AWFUL this year until Blount took over, and he started putting up excellent numbers. I don't know how you can say that Blount isn't a very talented runner, and he's been putting up a lot of this production without the team's two best offensive linemen. He very well could put up 1,000 yards while playing in only 13 games. If you don't think that makes him a "real" NFL back, then there aren't too many "real" backs in the NFL.
 

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