Where was Vick taken among QBs (1 Viewer)

[Uruk-Hai]

This thread (among others) got me curious. Many there are saying they were correct in calling Vick overrated prior to the 2005 season. According to the ADP & year-end numbers used. However, I'm wondering if that ADP (4th) was accurate among leagues with more experienced drafters.

I said in another thread a couple of weeks ago that I drafted Vick as the 12th QB off of the board. That was incorrect - after finding my draft results, I discovered I took him as the 9th QB. He finished 5th. So, in my league at least, he was slightly undervalued. Granted, my league's scoring is slightly atypical: 1/10 rushing, 1/30 passing - which will favor a running QB more than FBGs scoring will. He finished about 16 points ahead of QB #9 (his break-even point in my league) - 1 ppg. Even had he finished 10th (where I believe he wound up using FBGs scoring), he wouldn't have been overvalued.

The linked thread listed an ADP for Vick of 4th among QBs. Was he really going that high? I'm only in one redraft league, so my sample size is a bit small. But reading a multitude of threads over the months (years) about Vick not being a great fantasy option, I get the feeling that most here wouldn't touch him Top 4.

I don't like using the terms "shark" & "guppy", but wouldn't that #4 ADP have been seriously skewed by leagues with inexperienced drafters? I'm sure many here are in more "hardcore" leagues. So where was he going?

BTW, I'm neither a Vick basher or an apologist for him - all I care about is whether and at what point does he represent value for me.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

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[perry147]

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The probelm with Vick as stated many times before is the same problem with Brooks. His inconsistancy will kill you, you never know how he is going to play, and it seems like the opponent does not matter. Example: He will play a team that is horrible against the pass and not do anything, but will turn around and play the best defense in the league and score three times. I think many owners drafting Vick do so thinking that they will be playing matchups with another QB most of the year, but are burnt by it.

Sorry for ranting but I can't pass up an opportunity to bash Vick.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

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The probelm with Vick as stated many times before is the same problem with Brooks. His inconsistancy will kill you, you never know how he is going to play, and it seems like the opponent does not matter. Example: He will play a team that is horrible against the pass and not do anything, but will turn around and play the best defense in the league and score three times. I think many owners drafting Vick do so thinking that they will be playing matchups with another QB most of the year, but are burnt by it.

Sorry for ranting but I can't pass up an opportunity to bash Vick.

But, as Drinen showed in a post here, he hasn't been any more inconsistent than some of his supposedly more consistent peers. Not counting week 17 (when the whole team seemed to quit), he played in 14 games. In my league, he had two weeks below ten points, two weeks above 20 pts, & 10 weeks between 11 & 19 pts. That isn't stellar, but it's also not wildly inconsistent either.Anyway, my point here wasn't to argue Vick yet again - it's to see where he was getting drafted. I haven't talked to anyone (perhaps a dozen in total) who drafted in a league where Vick went as high as the 4th QB (his ADP referenced in the "550 comments" thread, although Drinen stated it as #8).

 

[facook]

In all three leagues I'm in, he was drafted somewhere in the 7-11 range. It seemed that most of us were down on Vick, but there was always one guy that just was too enticed by the "potential."None of the three that drafted Vick did anything in their respective leagues. Of course, this probably speaks more to overall FF ability than just to that one pick.

 

[spOOfy]

Drafted 14th - was dropped in week 5 and picked up by a different team in week 8.