Which Republican Presidential Candidate Do You Favor for 2024? (1 Viewer)

[NorvilleBarnes]

If he wins, he will not leave the white house at end of term

So weak. You guys are out of shape. There's time though. I'm getting nostalgic for the old hysteria.

IF TROMP WENS IT WELL BEE THE END OF THA WURLD! ! ! !

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

BTW, Liz Cheney has not ruled out a Presidential run 

 

[Snotbubbles]

Don't care who it is, anyone is better than the current President. 

 

[glvsav37]

Christie will always be an interesting figure in politics to me. Even as a republican, I didnt necessarily like him, and while he wasn't my gov, as NY'er I got to see his coverage from our neighbor state. 

What always stuck in my mind, and really soured me on modern politics was the absolute backlash he got for working with Obama after Hurricane Sandy. It just shows how people have put party politics over basic human decency. 

 

[dkp993]

Don't care who it is, anyone is better than the current President. 

Last 2 election cycles I’ve felt this way. Unfortunately I’m betting 2024 will be a 3rd.  

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

I still think there's a chance Nikki Haley emerges.

We are all still a long way off from the 2024 general cycle. Trump and Biden may simply not live that long. Something may happen to Trump scandal wise that he won't be able to move beyond. De Santis, based on his wife's health or some other factor in Florida, might not run.

Haley is boring, but she wins. She beats anyone Team Blue can put forward. Abrams could not beat her. Newsom could not beat her. Biden could not beat her. Harris could not beat her.

The Democrat who might give her the hardest time though is Katie Porter and that infamous dry erase board. Why Porter doesn't get more general widespread support from the rank and file Democrats is actually pretty sad. She acts and sounds like a real flesh and blood person in every day life. She's not some typical liberal cut out caricature like the rest.

I prefer Haley because she has the most foreign policy experience and that's pretty critical given where the world is heading. If Crenshaw is her VPOTUS, that is a good balance in the coming war with China.

If 2024 was Trump Vs Porter, I'd vote Porter.

Who are we kidding here, if Porter looked like a young Melissa Stark, she would have locked up a Governorship already and be looking upwards. Team Blue submits to their inept marketing department too often. It's funny how the Party of "inclusion" rarely picks those who actually looks and sounds like most Americans.

Katie Porter is an effective representative. I agree she's actually quite normal, in the sense that she could be a neighbor or a trusted mom of one of your kid's friends. She's effective in that she brings facts to issues, and actually seems interested in Congressional oversight, which is what reps should be focused on. It would be great if more reps were like her. Or better said, if more reps like her were given their due. 

 

[Van Dyman]

BTW, Liz Cheney has not ruled out a Presidential run 

If she runs would she be your preferred GOP candidate?

 

[lazyike]

The only problem with Trump as president again is the delusional people who want to keep larping like they're in an oppressive regime will be turned up to 11. Will never hear the end of how Trump's insult of a news reporter is some how a rape/genocide/pee tape times infinity. 

Complaining of how Pence let him down even further enraging his supporters on January 6 and doing nothing for 187 minutes will be what our country's true patriots will still be disgusted about for the 2024 election. And even then "loving and thinking those insurrectionists are special" will never be forgotten.  Somehow it will make us forget all about all his other BS like your examples.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

If she runs would she be your preferred GOP candidate?

Living in Florida I like most of what I've seen from DeSantis over the past few years. He's done a couple of things I don't like but overall I think he'd make a good President.

 

[Insein]

Complaining of how Pence let him down even further enraging his supporters on January 6 and doing nothing for 187 minutes will be what our country's true patriots will still be disgusted about for the 2024 election. And even then "loving and thinking those insurrectionists are special" will never be forgotten.  Somehow it will make us forget all about all his other BS like your examples.

Exhibit A on the LARPing as a "true patriot" in an oppressive regime. 

 

[lazyike]

Exhibit A on the LARPing as a "true patriot" in an oppressive regime. 

You misused the word larping. Patriots I guess we're for the insurrection for some reason

 

[Insein]

You misused the word larping. Patriots I guess we're for the insurrection for some reason

I'm not saying they were but to think you're some kind of patriot for hating a politician. You're not special. 

 

[snore]

I'm not saying they were but to think you're some kind of patriot for hating a politician. You're not special. 

I agree and also think the opposite…loving a politician doesn’t make you a patriot either. 

 

[MAC_32]

BTW, Liz Cheney has not ruled out a Presidential run 

Good.

 

[BladeRunner]

BTW, Liz Cheney has not ruled out a Presidential run 

Nope. 

We need somebody not so divisive and alienating.  Of course, the Dems will love her and support her because they know she would be a guarantee win for the Dem candidate.  She would certainly serve their needs and agenda, just like now.

 

[JIslander]

Good.

Yup.  She's got the biggest, really the only balls in Congress.  

 

[sho nuff]

Nope. 

We need somebody not so divisive and alienating.  Of course, the Dems will love her and support her because they know she would be a guarantee win for the Dem candidate.  She would certainly serve their needs and agenda, just like now.

So then you are against almost all the front runners for the GOP nomination (including Trump and Desantis)?

 

[The Big Donkey]

Christie will always be an interesting figure in politics to me. Even as a republican, I didnt necessarily like him, and while he wasn't my gov, as NY'er I got to see his coverage from our neighbor state. 

What always stuck in my mind, and really soured me on modern politics was the absolute backlash he got for working with Obama after Hurricane Sandy. It just shows how people have put party politics over basic human decency. 

him closing down the beaches and then getting photographed with his family on them.   kind of soured me on him as a NJ kid.

 

[The Commish]

Nope. 

We need somebody not so divisive and alienating.  Of course, the Dems will love her and support her because they know she would be a guarantee win for the Dem candidate.  She would certainly serve their needs and agenda, just like now.

Aren't you a DeSantis guy?  Sorry if I am misremembering and you aren't.

 

[BladeRunner]

Aren't you a DeSantis guy?  Sorry if I am misremembering and you aren't.

Currently, yes, but I'm speaking about someone that will not be divisive amongst conservatives.  We need a candidate that most of the party can agree on.  Liz Cheney ain't that person.  Not even close.

 

[timschochet]

Currently, yes, but I'm speaking about someone that will not be divisive amongst conservatives.  We need a candidate that most of the party can agree on.  Liz Cheney ain't that person.  Not even close.

The last Republican candidate for President that did not divide conservatives was Ronald Reagan. 

 

[BladeRunner]

The last Republican candidate for President that did not divide conservatives was Ronald Reagan. 

You'll get no argument from me on that - our GOP POTUS's over the last 30 years have been average to bad, starting with the 1st George W. Bush (as much as I liked him, he was still average IMO).

That still doesn't mean we won't get one. 

 

[The Dude]

Currently, yes, but I'm speaking about someone that will not be divisive amongst conservatives.  We need a candidate that most of the party can agree on.  Liz Cheney ain't that person.  Not even close.

Correct. Liz won’t bring in the kooks.

 

[BladeRunner]

Correct. Liz won’t bring in the kooks.

You're right. That's what the Democrat Party is for.

I mean, come on dude. You're like exhibit A.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

You're right. That's what the Democrat Party is for.

I laughed 

 

[The Commish]

Currently, yes, but I'm speaking about someone that will not be divisive amongst conservatives.  We need a candidate that most of the party can agree on.  Liz Cheney ain't that person.  Not even close.

Dont think Desantis is meaningfully better in that realm. 

 

[BladeRunner]

Dont think Desantis is meaningfully better in that realm. 

I disagree, but that's okay.

 

[The Commish]

I disagree, but that's okay.

Well, to be fair, I really don't know what "conservative" is anymore.  Just going by what I see here in Florida.  Those that were happy with Trump would be happy with DeSantis.  Those that weren't happy with Trump aren't happy with DeSantis....they see him as Trump 2.0.  I guess the argument would be those aren't real "conservatives" in this day and age. 

That said, I don't think Cheney would be acceptable to this group either.

 

[The Dude]

You're right. That's what the Democrat Party is for.

I mean, come on dude. You're like exhibit A.

In your daily - maybe hourly - false equivalency defense, which group of democrats are you equating to white supremacists? 

 

[AAABatteries]

Yup.  She's got the biggest, really the only balls in Congress.  

I honestly don't really know Cheney's credentials here but I find the reaction of the left and the right over her to be a little odd.  The right makes her out to be a pariah and the left makes her out to be some kind of hero.  I mean, maybe standing up to Trump takes some guts but any decent politician should be doing it.  Just because many aren't doesn't mean it's super brave but more the others are just a bunch of cowards.  I do think on some small level what her and Kinzinger are doing helps in showing the country what many of already knew - Trump is a narcissistic criminal.  

 

[rockaction]

I mean, maybe standing up to Trump takes some guts but any decent politician should be doing it.  Just because many aren't doesn't mean it's super brave but more the others are just a bunch of cowards. 

It's fairly brave to sacrifice your own career and self-interest to help bring about justice. I reside nowhere near the left, and I think Cheney is brave to do so. The repercussions, should Trump be elected, are many. This is a guy whose right-hand man wanted RINO "heads on a pike." It's some tough sledding when you're up against that, and at that level of government clearance and power, it's worrisome to cross people like that. 

 

[Van Dyman]

Nope. 

We need somebody not so divisive and alienating.  Of course, the Dems will love her and support her because they know she would be a guarantee win for the Dem candidate.  She would certainly serve their needs and agenda, just like now.

I'm admittedly not familiar with her policy positions or how those differ from others in the GOP. She's always struck me as a run-of-the-mill standard (possibly old school?) Republican. I could see myself voting for her in the GOP primary. Is she "divisive and alienating" just based on participating in the J6 committee or is there something else? I'm probably missing something but wouldn't a lot of GOPers would see her participation in the J6 committee as a net positive, insomuch as it might help her garner general election votes from independents, conservative Dems, etc. No?

 

[BladeRunner]

I'm admittedly not familiar with her policy positions or how those differ from others in the GOP. She's always struck me as a run-of-the-mill standard (possibly old school?) Republican. I could see myself voting for her in the GOP primary. Is she "divisive and alienating" just based on participating in the J6 committee or is there something else? I'm probably missing something but wouldn't a lot of GOPers would see her participation in the J6 committee as a net positive, insomuch as it might help her garner general election votes from independents, conservative Dems, etc. No?

Yes.  And not because what I think she's doing is necessarily bad, but I think there's too many other people in our party that have soured on her because of her participation.

I think the effect she would have would be the same effect Trump had when he was elected president. Too many people would be in an uproar on our side because they see her a useful tool being used by the Democrats.

Now that would be good for Democrats cuz that's what they want is for the GOP to be in an internal War.  However, We can do better for a candidate.

 

[The Commish]

I'm admittedly not familiar with her policy positions or how those differ from others in the GOP. She's always struck me as a run-of-the-mill standard (possibly old school?) Republican. I could see myself voting for her in the GOP primary. Is she "divisive and alienating" just based on participating in the J6 committee or is there something else? I'm probably missing something but wouldn't a lot of GOPers would see her participation in the J6 committee as a net positive, insomuch as it might help her garner general election votes from independents, conservative Dems, etc. No?

There is ONE reason she's "divisive"...ONE, and it's definitely NOT because of voting record or policy positions.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/liz-cheney/

 

[Boston]

Liz has done wonders for the Cheney name…her Dad is in the Boogeyman Hall-of-Fame for the left but she restored their name with the dems and should be in line for a Kennedy Profile in Courage award right after she loses the Wyoming primary…I give her credit along with Tulsi Gabbard and Joe Manchin for not toeing the party line…she is going to make a fine host on CNN.

 

[RCon]

Saying Liz Cheney is divisive within the GOP is identical to saying "GOP candidates must adhere to stolen election dogma".

 

[Shula-holic]

Liz has done wonders for the Cheney name…her Dad is in the Boogeyman Hall-of-Fame for the left but she restored their name with the dems and should be in line for a Kennedy Profile in Courage award right after she loses the the Wyoming primary…I give her credit along with Tulsi Gabbard and Joe Manchin for not toeing the party line…she is going to make a fine host on CNN.

For me I'd have never voted for her before Donald Trump ever entered politics.  The family and the Iraq War was enough for me.

 

[Van Dyman]

Yes.  And not because what I think she's doing is necessarily bad, but I think there's too many other people in our party that have soured on her because of her participation.

I think the effect she would have would be the same effect Trump had when he was elected president. Too many people would be in an uproar on our side because they see her a useful tool being used by the Democrats.

Now that would be good for Democrats cuz that's what they want is for the GOP to be in an internal War.  However, We can do better for a candidate.

Your reasons are your reasons. I don't expect you to speak for everyone. Thanks for answering.

For some reason, I don't feel like "too many on [your] side" would agree that avoiding "the same effect Trump had  when he was elected president" is a shared goal.

 

[Van Dyman]

For me I'd have never voted for her before Donald Trump ever entered politics.  The family and the Iraq War was enough for me.

Same here. If it's Trump or Cheney in our primary, no contest...I can't vote for Trump. But if it's Cheney versus someone else? As far as I know her only advantage is that she seems to have at least done her job regarding J6 committee and she seems to have taken it seriously. If her competitors are bashing her for that or saying the 2020 election was stolen from Trump, they'll lose my vote  without a second thought. Easy button. But if her competitors are lauding her for J6 committee AND they all denounce Trump for trying to remain in office after losing his re-election, then it's a wash and we could actually vote on policy positions. Wouldn't that be novel!!!??