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or Atlanta, or New Orleans...or Seattle...'Sabertooth said:NFC is going to be Green Bay, Chicago, NY, or San Fran.
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or Atlanta, or New Orleans...or Seattle...'Sabertooth said:NFC is going to be Green Bay, Chicago, NY, or San Fran.
looked like a Super Bowl qb today.Right. 2nd year players taking over for established, productive starters on teams with great defenses never win SBs.There is absolutely no f***ing way the Niners win the Super Bowl with Colin Kaepernick as their QB.
What about now?Folks, the Steelers have been beaten by the Titans and Raiders, and taken to overtime by the Chiefs - and that's WITH Ben. Maybe it's just my negative homer glasses, but I can't see this team beating three of Baltimore, New England, Denver, and Houston.
Now they've still been beaten by the Titans and Raiders and taken to OT by the Chiefs.What about now?Folks, the Steelers have been beaten by the Titans and Raiders, and taken to overtime by the Chiefs - and that's WITH Ben. Maybe it's just my negative homer glasses, but I can't see this team beating three of Baltimore, New England, Denver, and Houston.
Thats the best part of the NFL, every game matters, you're saying you would rather roll easily through the regular season and then win it all in the playoffs? What's entertaing about having a clear best team. The fact these teams are close enough that they need to prove themselves every single week is one of the best things about the NFL. Watching the Packers essentially surrender to the Giants when they are competing with the Bears for the division was on of the most unnerving things I have ever seen'Dentist said:I don't even want to think about this.I hate it when horrible flawed teams win, which now isn't even the exception in the NFL anymore, it's the rule.But there's no one team that can be counted on every week to kick butt.... even some of the best teams are just a LITTLE better than their opponents... Houston eeking out wins in OT over weak teams, Atlanta struggling to win some weeks.There's no team out there I would trust to win a game if my life depended on it.... so as it has been for 10 years+ running now... it'll just be whoever gets hot late.
LOFL, which is the very reason they qualify for the thread topic. Thanks for the info.Now they've still been beaten by the Titans and Raiders and taken to OT by the Chiefs.What about now?Folks, the Steelers have been beaten by the Titans and Raiders, and taken to overtime by the Chiefs - and that's WITH Ben. Maybe it's just my negative homer glasses, but I can't see this team beating three of Baltimore, New England, Denver, and Houston.
totally transformative win. Didn't think Batch had that kind of game in him. Defense really is completely restored from the debacle they were at times earlier in the year. I just couldn't believe it could happen so instantly. That being said, nothing is given to you, still need to take care of business. Steelers have bad habit of playing down to bad teams.BTW, love Bloom, he's one of the best pundits on here; it had nothing to do with that. Just wondering if today's win changed his opinion at all, which he admitted might be bias in the first place.
LOFL, which is the very reason they qualify for the thread topic. Thanks for the info.Now they've still been beaten by the Titans and Raiders and taken to OT by the Chiefs.What about now?Folks, the Steelers have been beaten by the Titans and Raiders, and taken to overtime by the Chiefs - and that's WITH Ben. Maybe it's just my negative homer glasses, but I can't see this team beating three of Baltimore, New England, Denver, and Houston.
The Packers have lost only 5 games out of their last 30 or so.'Dentist said:I don't even want to think about this.I hate it when horrible flawed teams win, which now isn't even the exception in the NFL anymore, it's the rule.But there's no one team that can be counted on every week to kick butt.... even some of the best teams are just a LITTLE better than their opponents... Houston eeking out wins in OT over weak teams, Atlanta struggling to win some weeks.There's no team out there I would trust to win a game if my life depended on it.... so as it has been for 10 years+ running now... it'll just be whoever gets hot late.
But 4 of those 5 have been in the last 12 or so. Just sayin'The Packers have lost only 5 games out of their last 30 or so.'Dentist said:I don't even want to think about this.I hate it when horrible flawed teams win, which now isn't even the exception in the NFL anymore, it's the rule.But there's no one team that can be counted on every week to kick butt.... even some of the best teams are just a LITTLE better than their opponents... Houston eeking out wins in OT over weak teams, Atlanta struggling to win some weeks.There's no team out there I would trust to win a game if my life depended on it.... so as it has been for 10 years+ running now... it'll just be whoever gets hot late.
No, the problem with the NFL is that not very many games actually matter.Today's NFL is.. just win 9, 10 games... then as long as you're hot for a 3-4 game stretch in January you can win a title.Thats the best part of the NFL, every game matters, you're saying you would rather roll easily through the regular season and then win it all in the playoffs? What's entertaing about having a clear best team. The fact these teams are close enough that they need to prove themselves every single week is one of the best things about the NFL.
Watching the Packers essentially surrender to the Giants when they are competing with the Bears for the division was on of the most unnerving things I have ever seen
I like Atlanta, but it's hard to buy-in to their 11-1 recordYes, ultimately they are winning which is what mattersBut when youStill no love for Atlanta anywhere. Hilarious. Imagine if they played STL twice and lost one and tied another. Or if Atlanta allowed Russell Wilson to go 97 yards and win the game. Wouldn't hear the end of it. But SF and CHI get a pass.
Indianapolis will likely make the playoffs. They will also likely be a doormat for whoever they play. I also expect a serious "regression" in 2013 as their schedule will be significantly more difficult.I guess I just don't think they are a real 8-4 team.Indy for the win.
I will go with the Redskins. This weekend game vs the Giants will make or break for their playoff hopes.If they can get to the postseason, I wouldn't rule them out against anyone.
I'd love to see a Seattle/Washington rookie qb showdown.Seattle enough said
Redskins are winning the NFC East.
Hawks at 50-1 and Vikes at 200-1 looking miiiiiiiiiighty sweet right now. Bucs at 80-1... not so much.For the purposes of this thread, I'd eliminate anyone at 10/1 or better. After that, if I were laying down money, the Seahawks would be my chalk pick, the Bucs would be a fun play, and the Vikings would be my dark horse.Slight hijack, but for a little perspective here are some Vegas odds (first link Google pulled up).
If I wanted to throw away $100, I'd be looking at the Jets. I wonder what odds I could get for picking a Jets/Cowboys match-up.Code:Team OddsSan Francisco 49ers 7/2New England Patriots 7/2Denver Broncos 5/1Houston Texans 5/1Atlanta Falcons 7/1New York Giants 9/1Chicago Bears 10/1Baltimore Ravens 10/1Green Bay Packers 10/1Pittsburgh Steelers 40/1Seattle Seahawks 50/1New Orleans Saints 50/1Cincinnati Bengals 60/1Tampa Bay Buccaneers 80/1Washington Redskins 80/1Indianapolis Colts 80/1Dallas Cowboys 80/1Minnesota Vikings 200/1Miami Dolphins 300/1San Diego Chargers 500/1Detroit Lions 500/1Buffalo Bills 1000/1Tennessee Titans 1000/1New York Jets 1000/1Arizona Cardinals 1000/1St. Louis Rams 1000/1
Rookie QB showdown starts next Sunday.Redskins are winning the NFC East.I don't see Washington making a run even if they make the playoffs. Now Seattle on the other hand...
Rookie QB showdown starts next Sunday.Redskins are winning the NFC East.I don't see Washington making a run even if they make the playoffs. Now Seattle on the other hand...
2 fine rookie QB's there, that's for sure. We'll be talking about both of them 10 years from now.Rookie QB showdown starts next Sunday.Redskins are winning the NFC East.I don't see Washington making a run even if they make the playoffs. Now Seattle on the other hand...
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Hope so. Would love to have an East coast rival for years to come. Not just teams but the two players vying to be best in their class.2 fine rookie QB's there, that's for sure. We'll be talking about both of them 10 years from now.Rookie QB showdown starts next Sunday.Redskins are winning the NFC East.I don't see Washington making a run even if they make the playoffs. Now Seattle on the other hand...
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I expect that this is the first of many NFC playoff matchups between these two. I think Luck is great, too, but RGIII and Wilson have both really impressed me with how smart they play, as well as their physical talents. Have there ever been two rookie QBs in one season who took their teams to the playoffs and averaged at or around 100 passer ratings (RGIII is over and Wilson just under 100, I believe)?'fatness said:2 fine rookie QB's there, that's for sure. We'll be talking about both of them 10 years from now.'mad sweeney said:'Donnybrook said:Rookie QB showdown starts next Sunday.Redskins are winning the NFC East.I don't see Washington making a run even if they make the playoffs. Now Seattle on the other hand...
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And have there ever been 3 rookie QB's who took their teams to the playoffs in the same season? It's really hard to describe how good this year's rookie QB's are. It'll take a few years to sink in I think.Have there ever been two rookie QBs in one season who took their teams to the playoffs and averaged at or around 100 passer ratings (RGIII is over and Wilson just under 100, I believe)?
or Atlanta, or New Orleans...or Seattle...NFC is going to be Green Bay, Chicago, NY, or San Fran.
Agreed. This year could turn out to rival 1983, which is usually considered the greatest year for drafting qb's (Elway, Jim Kelly, Marino).And have there ever been 3 rookie QB's who took their teams to the playoffs in the same season? It's really hard to describe how good this year's rookie QB's are. It'll take a few years to sink in I think.Have there ever been two rookie QBs in one season who took their teams to the playoffs and averaged at or around 100 passer ratings (RGIII is over and Wilson just under 100, I believe)?
Should be a fun game to watch. Two rookie QBs playing very well, two underrated defenses also playing well. Good playoff matchup.'Donnybrook said:Rookie QB showdown starts next Sunday.Redskins are winning the NFC East.I don't see Washington making a run even if they make the playoffs. Now Seattle on the other hand...