White man slammed to ground by police dies. Whites grab guns and go to (1 Viewer)

[sublimeone]

OK, I just watched the video. The other cops are all joking around with the guy. The big guy is letting the guy "pat" him on the arms, and the guy even tries to hug the "big guy!" This guy showed no threat to anyone.

With that being said, the cop that slammed the guy didn't mean to kill him I don't think, BUT!!! I agree anyone with this type of temper doesn't belong in law enforcement. Once the policeman had the guy wrapped up, did he need to slam him on the ground? I say no, it was excessive and not warranted.

I agree.

Let's say the drunk guy, instead of walking through a police station is walking through a bar and points at some guy the exact same way he did to the cop. The guy body slams him in the exact same manor as the cop and it's all caught on a security camera. The cops are called and come and view footage of the altercation.

I'm guessing the cops arrest the slammer and charge him with battery. Why shouldn't cops be held to the same standard?

 

[Dr Oadi]

OK, I just watched the video. The other cops are all joking around with the guy. The big guy is letting the guy "pat" him on the arms, and the guy even tries to hug the "big guy!" This guy showed no threat to anyone.

With that being said, the cop that slammed the guy didn't mean to kill him I don't think, BUT!!! I agree anyone with this type of temper doesn't belong in law enforcement. Once the policeman had the guy wrapped up, did he need to slam him on the ground? I say no, it was excessive and not warranted.

I agree.

Let's say the drunk guy, instead of walking through a police station is walking through a bar and points at some guy the exact same way he did to the cop. The guy body slams him in the exact same manor as the cop and it's all caught on a security camera. The cops are called and come and view footage of the altercation.

I'm guessing the cops arrest the slammer and charge him with battery. Why shouldn't cops be held to the same standard?

It really doesn't need to be said but cops donot have the same rules apply to them as the rest of society.

 

[lod01]

Nothing wrong with thinning the herd.

 

[flysack]

People need to learn, if you #### with the Po-lice you may die. Pretty simple concept really.

FEAR. FEAR WILL KEEP THE LOCAL SYSTEMS IN LINE. FEAR OF OUR DEATH STAR!

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Nothing wrong with thinning the herd.

starting with you and your loved ones?

 

[BassNBrew]

I do have to give props to the usual pro-cop guys in here standing by there position. Interesting enough the usual liberal posters are strangely absent.

 

[Guest]

Time to coat the world in Nerf to prevent stupid reckless people from themselves.

 

[Drifter]

I do have to give props to the usual pro-cop guys in here standing by there position. Interesting enough the usual liberal posters are strangely absent.

Probably because of the stinky racist bait in the title.

 

[MaxThreshold]

I do have to give props to the usual pro-cop guys in here standing by there position. Interesting enough the usual liberal posters are strangely absent.

Probably because of the stinky racist bait in the title.

They respond to all the other racist bait. Why is this one so different?

 

[joffer]

I do have to give props to the usual pro-cop guys in here standing by there position. Interesting enough the usual liberal posters are strangely absent.

Probably because of the stinky racist bait in the title.

They respond to all the other racist bait. Why is this one so different?

this one is stinky

 

[Dr Oadi]

I do have to give props to the usual pro-cop guys in here standing by there position. Interesting enough the usual liberal posters are strangely absent.

Probably because of the stinky racist bait in the title.

They respond to all the other racist bait. Why is this one so different?

this one is stinky

Somehow I pissed off the liberal circle jerk around here. My deepest apologies.How is reporting the facts of the case race baiting? I still think the most important part of the story is being over looked. Whites are grabbing guns and going to the jail.

[Matthew Mcconaughey]Now imagine they were black.[/Matthew Mcconaughey]

 

[General Tso]

looks to me like manslaughter. But the story won't have any legs. And we know why.

 

[FlapJacks]

looks to me like manslaughter. But the story won't have any legs. And we know why.

 

[Guest]

Two thoughts, somewhat conflicting.

1. If the guy had walked away with a broken nose, one could reasonably watch this video and think, "Good going, idiot," and wouldn't blame the cop. Instead the guy got himself killed.

2. That said, it doesn't feel good to see a guy unnecessarily killed - so the thing to look at are the protocols and why he was being paraded through the station without handcuffs? Handcuffs are as much about protecting the impaired criminals from themselves, and I wonder why he wasn't restrained. Seems also reasonable that he would be alive had he been restrained, and if he protocol doesn't exist, it should. And if it does, it should have been followed.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Two thoughts, somewhat conflicting.

1. If the guy had walked away with a broken nose, one could reasonably watch this video and think, "Good going, idiot," and wouldn't blame the cop. Instead the guy got himself killed.

2. That said, it doesn't feel good to see a guy unnecessarily killed - so the thing to look at are the protocols and why he was being paraded through the station without handcuffs? Handcuffs are as much about protecting the impaired criminals from themselves, and I wonder why he wasn't restrained. Seems also reasonable that he would be alive had he been restrained, and if he protocol doesn't exist, it should. And if it does, it should have been followed.

Well from what i saw the worst thing he would have done was hug someone to death...anyone who says this is an acceptable reaction from that cop is either a cop ...or wants to be a cop

 

[Sabertooth]

OK, I just watched the video. The other cops are all joking around with the guy. The big guy is letting the guy "pat" him on the arms, and the guy even tries to hug the "big guy!" This guy showed no threat to anyone.

With that being said, the cop that slammed the guy didn't mean to kill him I don't think, BUT!!! I agree anyone with this type of temper doesn't belong in law enforcement. Once the policeman had the guy wrapped up, did he need to slam him on the ground? I say no, it was excessive and not warranted.

This is exactly the type of guy that goes into law enforcement.

 

[randall146]

I do have to give props to the usual pro-cop guys in here standing by there position. Interesting enough the usual liberal posters are strangely absent.

I think that's just because it's just such a clear cut case. Not many people arguing that this guy deserved killing

 

[randall146]

OK, I just watched the video. The other cops are all joking around with the guy. The big guy is letting the guy "pat" him on the arms, and the guy even tries to hug the "big guy!" This guy showed no threat to anyone.

With that being said, the cop that slammed the guy didn't mean to kill him I don't think, BUT!!! I agree anyone with this type of temper doesn't belong in law enforcement. Once the policeman had the guy wrapped up, did he need to slam him on the ground? I say no, it was excessive and not warranted.

This is exactly the type of guy that goes into law enforcement.

Definitely, and that's the kind of thing training academy needs to address. Whether it's the military or police, you can't give someone all that power and weaponry without ingraining discipline first

 

[Sabertooth]

I was glad to hear about Obama demilitarizing police or at least taking steps to do so.

I'd be interested to hear if police brutality rates are truly up though. No good way to know as I'm sure if it happened in 1940 or 1920, it was not reported very often. Make me wonder if the police are getting worse or just better reported. I tend to think the latter.

 

[randall146]

I was glad to hear about Obama demilitarizing police or at least taking steps to do so.

I'd be interested to hear if police brutality rates are truly up though. No good way to know as I'm sure if it happened in 1940 or 1920, it was not reported very often. Make me wonder if the police are getting worse or just better reported. I tend to think the latter.

Agreed on all counts. I suspect police brutality rates have actually gone steadily down, but with surveillance everywhere the reporting itself and the credibility of brutality claims have drastically increased.

The militarization of police is a separate issue from police brutality.

I remember traveling in Europe and Asia in the 80s and 90s and always being disturbed when regular police officers in many places wore bulletproof jackets and carried assault rifles. To this American, that was very frightening. It made me feel like I was in occupied territory. When policemen are soldiers it creates an "Us vs. them" mentality on both sides.

Now that's carried over to America. Where before it might have only been the state police, now every local force has its own SWAT team, with military weapons and vehicles.

Also, much of the militarization has to do with forfeiture laws and federal grants. Local police forces are always looking for federal grant money, and all police agencies (state and federal) are incentivized from insane forfeiture laws that allow governments to seize and then civilly forfeit property with very little connection to crime. Once the property is forfeited, there are weird formulas for the different agencies to divide up the proceeds, and limits on how they can spend it.

So individual police departments have a strong incentive to grab the money, and then have strict constraints on what they can buy with it. Then, once they have the crazy military gear, they need to use it. So now you have police looking like armies when confronting citizens, creating, once again, an us vs them atmosphere

 

[cstu]

I do have to give props to the usual pro-cop guys in here standing by there position. Interesting enough the usual liberal posters are strangely absent.

I'm extremely liberal and still don't mind when cops kill people who do stupid things.

 

[FlapJacks]

If the cop had punched him or kicked him had done anything after the initial takedown, that would be something....this is no worse than when a cop or security tackles a guy who runs onto the field....

Guy took a belligerent swing...he deserved to be tackled

 

[Cjw_55106]

If the cop had punched him or kicked him had done anything after the initial takedown, that would be something....this is no worse than when a cop or security tackles a guy who runs onto the field....

Guy took a belligerent swing...he deserved to be tackled

No matter how many times its posted, I dont see anything close to a swing from the drunk.

 

[TPW]

I was glad to hear about Obama demilitarizing police or at least taking steps to do so.

Absolutely. It's one of the tiny few domestic actions he has taken during his entire presidency with which I wholeheartedly agree.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Bad outcome for the idiot.

For future reference:

1) Don't get arrested for being a drunken idiot

2) Don't stick your finger in a meathead's face

 

[Rove!]

If the cop had punched him or kicked him had done anything after the initial takedown, that would be something....this is no worse than when a cop or security tackles a guy who runs onto the field....

Guy took a belligerent swing...he deserved to be tackled

No matter how many times its posted, I dont see anything close to a swing from the drunk.

5:21 - 5:23

he puts his left arm up in boxing style blocking pose and flails at the cop with his right

 

[Cjw_55106]

If the cop had punched him or kicked him had done anything after the initial takedown, that would be something....this is no worse than when a cop or security tackles a guy who runs onto the field....

Guy took a belligerent swing...he deserved to be tackled

No matter how many times its posted, I dont see anything close to a swing from the drunk.

5:21 - 5:23

he puts his left arm up in boxing style blocking pose and flails at the cop with his right

As I stated in post 18:

The drunk was actually holding his arm up in a more defensive mode after the cops swatted away his "point". The only people that would consider that a swing are people looking for justification.

So now we've gone from a "swing" to "flail"? Not sure why you dont just admit the guy was not a threat and the cop started the whole thing?

 

[BustedKnuckles]

If the cop had punched him or kicked him had done anything after the initial takedown, that would be something....this is no worse than when a cop or security tackles a guy who runs onto the field....

Guy took a belligerent swing...he deserved to be tackled

No matter how many times its posted, I dont see anything close to a swing from the drunk.

5:21 - 5:23

he puts his left arm up in boxing style blocking pose and flails at the cop with his right

some people

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Bad outcome for the idiot.

For future reference:

1) Don't get arrested for being a drunken idiot

2) Don't stick your finger in a meathead's face

ya because people think clearly when they are #### faced

 

[BustedKnuckles]

If the cop had punched him or kicked him had done anything after the initial takedown, that would be something....this is no worse than when a cop or security tackles a guy who runs onto the field....

Guy took a belligerent swing...he deserved to be tackled

No matter how many times its posted, I dont see anything close to a swing from the drunk.

5:21 - 5:23

he puts his left arm up in boxing style blocking pose and flails at the cop with his right

As I stated in post 18:

The drunk was actually holding his arm up in a more defensive mode after the cops swatted away his "point". The only people that would consider that a swing are people looking for justification.

So now we've gone from a "swing" to "flail"? Not sure why you dont just admit the guy was not a threat and the cop started the whole thing?

its NOT against the law to point your finger at someone...it may be rude ...but not illegal...it IS however illegal to hit the hand that is pointing at you...thats battery...so of the 2 involved the cop broke the law

 

[Cliff Clavin]

Bad outcome for the idiot.

For future reference:

1) Don't get arrested for being a drunken idiot

2) Don't stick your finger in a meathead's face

ya because people think clearly when they are #### faced

If only there was something he could have done about that.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Bad outcome for the idiot.

For future reference:

1) Don't get arrested for being a drunken idiot

2) Don't stick your finger in a meathead's face

ya because people think clearly when they are #### faced

If only there was something he could have done about that.

right...just smoke weed man

 

[lod01]

Nothing wrong with thinning the herd.

starting with you and your loved ones?

If I was running the show, you and your pathetic 44 arrest wouldn't have made it to 29.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

Nothing wrong with thinning the herd.

starting with you and your loved ones?

If I was running the show, you and your pathetic 44 arrest wouldn't have made it to 29.

honestly i dont wish any harm to you or your family...i shouldnt have said that