Whither goest Asomugha? (1 Viewer)

[dhockster]

I've heard it said on here somewhere but I'll say it here. There are many teams that are vying for his services but he will go where he wants to go. I'd love to see him in a Lions uniform but I honestly see him making a choice based as much on head office stability as the # of zeros on the paycheck. He is leaving Raidertown after all.

I agree. He's made in inordinate amount of money already, is a well spoken guy that is allegedly squeaky clean. I suspect he knows he's getting paid wherever he goes, but will weigh other factors like stability, coaching, nucleus, scheme in his final choice.

He has to like the idea of playing behind that front 7/4/2 however you define it. Suh/Fairley would make his job so much easier.

Detroit is definitely a team on the rise. I just think the fact that they aren't winners yet, and that Detroit, the city, is not exactly a marquee place to go, will have him signing somewhere else.

meh. It has casinos, titty bars an airport and ritzy areas that are CHEAP as all get out. all depends if he minds the cold.

I am not trying to knock Detroit. But if we look at all the factors that goes into where a free agent signs Detroit is going to be equal or behind other cities in pretty much every category. These include: money (let's assume equal), endorsement opportunities (behind), quality of life (behind), ability to win now (behind), and weather (behind). If Detroit really wants him and goes after him hard, I think their only consolation prize will be that they will drive up the price for whoever eventually signs him.

 

[hutchins929]

As a Detroit Lions fan, I wouldn't mind it if they over paid to get him. Hell, It would be worth paying extra to get to finally get back to the playoffs!

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[ookook]

Close on title but still not there. IT would simply be "Whither goes Asomugha?"Points for effort

Sorry, but it is fine as is (and what I intended but botched).See for example:John 13:36: 'Simon Peter said to him, Lord, whither goest thou? Jesus answered him, Whither I go, thou canst not follow me now; but thou shalt follow me afterward."'Or even: "Whither goest the wind?"

 

[Raiderfan32904]

It appears that Houston isn't a player for Asomugha.http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2011/05/17/asomugha-not-interested-in-texans/

Asomugha not interested in Texans?By Jerry McDonald - NFL WriterTuesday, May 17th, 2011 at 4:57 pm in Oakland Raiders.The Houston Texans have been my personal favorite in the Nnamdi Asomugha sweepstakes once the NFL gets back to business.A blog by Houston Chronicle columnist Richard Justice suggests Asomugha doesn’t want any part of Houston.I figured with Houston’s pass defense (pathetic) an excellent offense and a strong desire to get to the playoffs, owner Bob McNair would open his checkbook to bring in Asomugha.Can’t say I’ve heard anything definitive about what Asomugha wants. He’s pretty good at playing it close to the vest. It’s simply not his style to denigrate a potential destination. He hasn’t ruled out the Raiders in the few interviews he’s done since the end of the season.There are true believers who think Asomugha could still wind up re-signing with the Raiders, but virtually every road sign is pointing out of town.The evidence is simply too strong. Owner Al Davis has already said publicly the money that would have been spent on Asomugha could be used to sign other players _ and then the Raiders brought back Richard Seymour and Stanford Routt for big bucks, not to mention Daniel Loper, Hiram Eugene and Rock Cartwright.Besides re-upping with Routt, the Raiders drafted cornerbacks DeMarcus Van Dyke and Chimdi Chekwa a year after taking Walter McFadden and Jeremy Ware.Add to it the fact that Asomugha is so far and away the top free agent on the market, he’s liable to bring home something in the ballpark of what he got the last time he signed _ a $45.3 million, three-year contract (the final year voided) that was the talk of the NFL. It was a contract so big the Raiders were relieved when the last year voided because of failure to meet statistical incentives.Aside from Houston, expected suitors for Asomugha include NFC East teams Philadelphia, Dallas and Washington.

 

[LawFitz]

I think Green Bay, Dallas, and Philly are the real players. Nnamdi is going to get top dollar no matter what so I believe he will go to a place where he thinks he and his family will be happy and where he will have a chance to win a ring.

 

[massraider]

I think Green Bay, Dallas, and Philly are the real players. Nnamdi is going to get top dollar no matter what so I believe he will go to a place where he thinks he and his family will be happy and where he will have a chance to win a ring.

Completely. Whatever his number is, he'll get it from more than one place.

 

[Grahamburn]

Surprised that no one has mentioned the BUCS.If the CBA remains, TB will have a TON of cap room to spend on somebody. And going after a big impact player makes more sense at this point than spreading it out for average depth.From the Yasinskas ESPN NFC South blog:

He says the favorites are in the NFC East, but he also makes mention of the Buccaneers. Don’t rule this one out. If there is a salary cap, the Bucs are going to have more cap room to work with than any team in the league. Coach Raheem Morris also has thrown out a few hints that the Bucs might be more active in free agency this year than they have been in recent years.

You've got to think they'll be in the conversation a little bit. If not for Nnamdi, then they'll go after at least a few other impact veterans. It's a similar approach to 2002 when the Bucs won the Super Bowl. The Glazers, Raheem, and Dominik are building the team from within with young talent. Then they'll add the veterans when it's time to get over the hump. Honestly, they might still be a couple years away, but Nnamdi would be a big step in the right direction.TB will be able to match the $$. Like others have said, he'll basically get to choose where he wants to play.Money, and no state income tax. Check.Great weather. Check.Good, young, up and coming team. Check.Makes sense.

 

[massraider]

Surprised that no one has mentioned the BUCS.If the CBA remains, TB will have a TON of cap room to spend on somebody. And going after a big impact player makes more sense at this point than spreading it out for average depth.From the Yasinskas ESPN NFC South blog:

He says the favorites are in the NFC East, but he also makes mention of the Buccaneers. Don’t rule this one out. If there is a salary cap, the Bucs are going to have more cap room to work with than any team in the league. Coach Raheem Morris also has thrown out a few hints that the Bucs might be more active in free agency this year than they have been in recent years.

You've got to think they'll be in the conversation a little bit. If not for Nnamdi, then they'll go after at least a few other impact veterans. It's a similar approach to 2002 when the Bucs won the Super Bowl. The Glazers, Raheem, and Dominik are building the team from within with young talent. Then they'll add the veterans when it's time to get over the hump. Honestly, they might still be a couple years away, but Nnamdi would be a big step in the right direction.TB will be able to match the $$. Like others have said, he'll basically get to choose where he wants to play.Money, and no state income tax. Check.Great weather. Check.Good, young, up and coming team. Check.Makes sense.

It does, but are the Glazers going that far in the other direction after being tight with the cash recently? I have heard they are going to loosen the purse strings, but then going and getting the most expensive FA is a big jump.

 

[gump]

It does, but are the Glazers going that far in the other direction after being tight with the cash recently? I have heard they are going to loosen the purse strings, but then going and getting the most expensive FA is a big jump.

The reportedly out-bid the Redskins for Haynesworth.

 

[Buckna]

It appears that Houston isn't a player for Asomugha.

http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2011/05/17/asomugha-not-interested-in-texans/

A blog by Houston Chronicle columnist Richard Justice suggests Asomugha doesn’t want any part of Houston.

The guy led off his blog post with the title I’ll forgive the Texans for not drafting Vince Young if they go sign Nnamdi AsomughaIf.

That makes me automatically dismiss anything he has to say.

 

[massraider]

It appears that Houston isn't a player for Asomugha.

http://www.ibabuzz.com/oaklandraiders/2011/05/17/asomugha-not-interested-in-texans/

A blog by Houston Chronicle columnist Richard Justice suggests Asomugha doesn’t want any part of Houston.

The guy led off his blog post with the title I’ll forgive the Texans for not drafting Vince Young if they go sign Nnamdi AsomughaIf.

That makes me automatically dismiss anything he has to say.

Going by Asomougha's career thus far, I would find it hard to believe that some/any columnist has any idea where he wants to go. This guy is not going on Twitter, or calling in to sports radio. I think that is 100% speculation by that guy.

 

[Grahamburn]

It does, but are the Glazers going that far in the other direction after being tight with the cash recently? I have heard they are going to loosen the purse strings, but then going and getting the most expensive FA is a big jump.

The reportedly out-bid the Redskins for Haynesworth.

Whew. Close one. Although, Albert doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would have taken less money under any circumstances.Honestly, the Glazers haven't been all that tight fisted in my opinion. That was something created by the media here. They wanted the Glazers to go after all of these expensive veterans that wouldn't have helped a young rebuilding team all that much. People were screaming from the rooftops for freaking Nate Burleson. They wanted to sell the farm for Brandon Marshall.

They drafted Mike Williams instead. It looks pretty smart so far.

The Bucs have now been built into a contender through the draft, and I expect them to add some impact players via free agency to make a run over the next 3-5 years. Nnamdi should be on their short list.

 

[Football Critic]

I've heard it said on here somewhere but I'll say it here. There are many teams that are vying for his services but he will go where he wants to go. I'd love to see him in a Lions uniform but I honestly see him making a choice based as much on head office stability as the # of zeros on the paycheck. He is leaving Raidertown after all.

I agree. He's made in inordinate amount of money already, is a well spoken guy that is allegedly squeaky clean. I suspect he knows he's getting paid wherever he goes, but will weigh other factors like stability, coaching, nucleus, scheme in his final choice.

He has to like the idea of playing behind that front 7/4/2 however you define it. Suh/Fairley would make his job so much easier.

Detroit is definitely a team on the rise. I just think the fact that they aren't winners yet, and that Detroit, the city, is not exactly a marquee place to go, will have him signing somewhere else.

meh. It has casinos, titty bars an airport and ritzy areas that are CHEAP as all get out. all depends if he minds the cold.

I am not trying to knock Detroit. But if we look at all the factors that goes into where a free agent signs Detroit is going to be equal or behind other cities in pretty much every category. These include: money (let's assume equal), endorsement opportunities (behind), quality of life (behind), ability to win now (behind), and weather (behind). If Detroit really wants him and goes after him hard, I think their only consolation prize will be that they will drive up the price for whoever eventually signs him.

You cant be serious on what you just said, sounds like uneducation.First off, money? No cap and the Chairman of Ford Motor Company at the helm when they are this close? Money will not be an issue. Just becaus the Lions didnt go over the edge when their team was in the pooper makes sense, let it evolve, then spend. Its evolved an Meyhem knows the time is now.

Endorsements? Detroit has Ford, Chevy, Chrysler, (All though they are competing cars companys I have seen Lions endorse them) Casinos, Very high end eating establishments just to name a few. Ford alone would put him over the top on endorsements.... are you out of your mind? Its funny to hear people who are not from Detroit talk about Detroit. Suh and Calvin are all over the TV around here as well as national. The money he would make would go alllooooonnnnggg way around Detroit. The fact is that a city so desperate to win would worship a guy like this, and who does not like that? Quality of life? 4 major sports teams, a city on the rise again, great water life such as fishing and boating and whatnot, and to be honest Quality of life is what you make of it. Ability to win now, what do you think they would be signing him for, and its not an argument if they got him they are primed for a run at the Superbowl.

Good young QB, who has shown he can play. (Stafford)

2 young good runners (Best and Leshoure)

Maybe the best WR in football along with a new young talented WR, and a young stud TE in the making. (Calvin, Young, Pettigrew...dont forget Burleson)

Suh, Vanden Bosh, Fairley and if they got Aso.....WOW

If they sign just one LB as well...They would be a favorite no doubt.

Question is, how would they not have a shot at winning it now?....if they got Aso

 

[Football Critic]

Not to mention lots of experts want to see the Lions on Hard Knocks, and rumor is they are looking for a young rebuilding team, like a Tampa. Another rumor was they wanted KC, but they already had them. Detroit is the most likely suiter many say, that also will help in landing Aso I believe.

Detroit is a major major player in the Nnamdi sweepstakes. Schwartz was at Vandys door as soon as he was allowed, he will be at Nnamdis just the same.

 

[Clifford]

Do the bears have the cap room to sign him? Wishful thinking but the Mccaskeys have been breaking open the wallet lately. I was really surprised they signed peppers.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

C'mon football critic you can't be serious. While I'm not saying the Lions would be a bad team for him to sign with, all other things being equal there's no way Detroit can offer the lifestyle of many other cities. And while the Lions COULD open their wallets, I have yet to see them do so to the extent of some other franchises. If you were a gambling man I think many other owners would be picked as more likely to overspend for a guy.

Whether he wants a city with a nightlife is another matter. But let's not pretend Detroit is going to hold up if that's important to him and everything else is equal.

 

[Football Critic]

C'mon football critic you can't be serious. While I'm not saying the Lions would be a bad team for him to sign with, all other things being equal there's no way Detroit can offer the lifestyle of many other cities. And while the Lions COULD open their wallets, I have yet to see them do so to the extent of some other franchises. If you were a gambling man I think many other owners would be picked as more likely to overspend for a guy.Whether he wants a city with a nightlife is another matter. But let's not pretend Detroit is going to hold up if that's important to him and everything else is equal.

Also, he is big into broadcasting and Detroit is a top 10 market in the radio world...and he loves to act, and Michigan, especially Detroit has been a big city for filming sites in the US in the past 2 years. Michigans to a filming initiative. So Detroit is not as bad as the Media makes it look....And have you ever been to Detroit at night, better yet accross the boarder to Windsor, Canada? When he can cross a bridge an have that type of fun there as well, do some research before you attempt to bash a city, lol. We have created a type of music from a club scene standpoint, and Detroit is Motown so tons of music options...seriously, bash Detroit, but really that shows no understandsing of the City.ETA: Detroit just turned down "Hard Knocks" FWIW...that sux.

 

[massraider]

Also, he is big into broadcasting and Detroit is a top 10 market in the radio world...and he loves to act, and Michigan, especially Detroit has been a big city for filming sites in the US in the past 2 years.

He loves to act? What's your favorite Asomougha movie role?

 

[Andrew Garda]

Also, he is big into broadcasting and Detroit is a top 10 market in the radio world...and he loves to act, and Michigan, especially Detroit has been a big city for filming sites in the US in the past 2 years.

He loves to act? What's your favorite Asomougha movie role?

Cast Away? Escape From Oakland? Platoon?If you were going to try and do more acting, Detroit really isn't the place to go, last two years notwithstanding.OTOH - ify ou want to act, WHERE isn't a big deal if you have the money he does. Fly where you want to shoot in the off season.

 

[massraider]

Also, he is big into broadcasting and Detroit is a top 10 market in the radio world...and he loves to act, and Michigan, especially Detroit has been a big city for filming sites in the US in the past 2 years.

He loves to act? What's your favorite Asomougha movie role?

Cast Away? Escape From Oakland? Platoon?If you were going to try and do more acting, Detroit really isn't the place to go, last two years notwithstanding.OTOH - ify ou want to act, WHERE isn't a big deal if you have the money he does. Fly where you want to shoot in the off season.

I don't care if they film every other movie in Detroit, actors get jobs in LA and NYC. Pretty sure filmmakers don't fly out to Detroit with a script, hoping to fill the lead roles with whoever is standing around the Detroit airport. You wanna hop on a movie set as a set builder or an extra? Detroit is the place. I do, however, think that Football Critic's larger point is correct: People aren't going to NOT go to Detroit because it's a complete ####hole (which it is, and Michigan in general is circling the drain). If the team is competitive, and the money is right, players will go there. Pretty sure Green Bay, WI isn't Shangri-La for young black millionaires, but sure hasn't seemed to hurt them.

 

[dhockster]

C'mon football critic you can't be serious. While I'm not saying the Lions would be a bad team for him to sign with, all other things being equal there's no way Detroit can offer the lifestyle of many other cities. And while the Lions COULD open their wallets, I have yet to see them do so to the extent of some other franchises. If you were a gambling man I think many other owners would be picked as more likely to overspend for a guy.Whether he wants a city with a nightlife is another matter. But let's not pretend Detroit is going to hold up if that's important to him and everything else is equal.

Also, he is big into broadcasting and Detroit is a top 10 market in the radio world...and he loves to act, and Michigan, especially Detroit has been a big city for filming sites in the US in the past 2 years. Michigans to a filming initiative. So Detroit is not as bad as the Media makes it look....And have you ever been to Detroit at night, better yet accross the boarder to Windsor, Canada? When he can cross a bridge an have that type of fun there as well, do some research before you attempt to bash a city, lol. We have created a type of music from a club scene standpoint, and Detroit is Motown so tons of music options...seriously, bash Detroit, but really that shows no understandsing of the City.ETA: Detroit just turned down "Hard Knocks" FWIW...that sux.

Again, I am not bashing Detroit and I don't think it is a bad place. It could be a great place and be the perfect fit for Aso. What I think will hurt Detroit is the perception of what it is compared to what other cities can offer. As to the whole money issue, I think Detroit could get him if they offered way above market value. Because they have the fortune (or misfortune) of having three players selected either 1st or 2nd in the draft (Johnson, Stafford, Suh)they probably cannot afford to pay way over market value (no matter what the Ford's can afford right now, I don't think their management will jeopardize their whole salary structure for when a salary cap is put back in place).If he goes to Detroit, I will admit I was wrong. I just think they are a long-shot.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

He's not going to Detroit. I read somewhere else that he was being interviewed on ESPN recently and they were trying to grill him on where he might want to go... One of the hosts mentioned Detroit and he basically broke out in laughter and said 'no'. Not gonna happen.

 

[Football Critic]

Also, he is big into broadcasting and Detroit is a top 10 market in the radio world...and he loves to act, and Michigan, especially Detroit has been a big city for filming sites in the US in the past 2 years.

He loves to act? What's your favorite Asomougha movie role?

He has had roles in "Friday Night Lights", and also played in a episode of "Leverage" on TNT. Also, if you would like a list of things filmed in Michigan the past year or two, I can provide one for you, but spare me and just google it.

 

[Football Critic]

Also, he is big into broadcasting and Detroit is a top 10 market in the radio world...and he loves to act, and Michigan, especially Detroit has been a big city for filming sites in the US in the past 2 years.

He loves to act? What's your favorite Asomougha movie role?

Cast Away? Escape From Oakland? Platoon?If you were going to try and do more acting, Detroit really isn't the place to go, last two years notwithstanding.OTOH - ify ou want to act, WHERE isn't a big deal if you have the money he does. Fly where you want to shoot in the off season.

I don't care if they film every other movie in Detroit, actors get jobs in LA and NYC. Pretty sure filmmakers don't fly out to Detroit with a script, hoping to fill the lead roles with whoever is standing around the Detroit airport. You wanna hop on a movie set as a set builder or an extra? Detroit is the place. I do, however, think that Football Critic's larger point is correct: People aren't going to NOT go to Detroit because it's a complete ####hole (which it is, and Michigan in general is circling the drain). If the team is competitive, and the money is right, players will go there. Pretty sure Green Bay, WI isn't Shangri-La for young black millionaires, but sure hasn't seemed to hurt them.

Since your obviously an outsider, I will tell you....Good things are happening in Detroit, but I'll be quite blunt...IF YOUR NOT FROM THERE OR NEVER BEEN THERE, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW? The news? TV? what other people who never been there say? Please.Your comment is really insulting to a lot of people from there. Many thing in Detroit are Great. I have lived or worked in Grand Rapids, Nawlins, Jackson Miss, Hattiesburg Miss (Go Southern Miss), Nashville, Lousiville, South Bend, Wash DC, Toledo, Destin FL, Detroit, Flint, Philly, New York, Huntsville AL, the Houston Area, Lake Charles, La, and some other places in Ohio. I have not been out west at all sadly, but any where on this side of the Mississippi, I have. I'm no expert on travel, but just a person who has had a chance to see half the country. I promise I spent at least a good amount of time in all these places, and Detroit is far from the Worse. Anything short of Florida, and they have their issues, and Detroit ranks up there. But to say Detroit is the one going down the toilet, I disagree, but you are entitled to your opinion. But Bashing a city is pretty harsh.I lived in Nawlins thru Katrina, and that actually led to the reason of me moving so much. I have seen what good and bad cities have looked like at their worst and best. I dont expect you to really care about that. But born in Detroit, I just feel the need to defend my town to the outsiders that disrespect it. I expect you to do the same for your town or City.Does this also mean Aso will or won't come here...No! Who knows what plays into his decision, I just hope that if he don't know much about the "D", he does more research than you do.

 

[Football Critic]

He's not going to Detroit. I read somewhere else that he was being interviewed on ESPN recently and they were trying to grill him on where he might want to go... One of the hosts mentioned Detroit and he basically broke out in laughter and said 'no'. Not gonna happen.

Oh, well case slosed! You have the clip so we can see the context? until then I still have hope.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

He's not going to Detroit. I read somewhere else that he was being interviewed on ESPN recently and they were trying to grill him on where he might want to go... One of the hosts mentioned Detroit and he basically broke out in laughter and said 'no'. Not gonna happen.

Oh, well case slosed! You have the clip so we can see the context? until then I still have hope.

You can google it yourself if you're interested. Like I said, I just read about it...

 

[Football Critic]

He's not going to Detroit. I read somewhere else that he was being interviewed on ESPN recently and they were trying to grill him on where he might want to go... One of the hosts mentioned Detroit and he basically broke out in laughter and said 'no'. Not gonna happen.

Oh, well case slosed! You have the clip so we can see the context? until then I still have hope.

You can google it yourself if you're interested. Like I said, I just read about it...

LOL, yup went to google typed in..."Interviewed on ESPN recently and they were trying to grill him on where he might want to go... One of the hosts mentioned Detroit and he basically broke out in laughter and said 'no'. Not gonna happen."

Even tried "Nnamdi said No", that didnt work.

SURPRISE...didnt bring up much, lol.

Maybe I asked for a link because you didnt provide any useful information.

 

[redBourne]

He's not going to Detroit. I read somewhere else that he was being interviewed on ESPN recently and they were trying to grill him on where he might want to go... One of the hosts mentioned Detroit and he basically broke out in laughter and said 'no'. Not gonna happen.

Oh, well case slosed! You have the clip so we can see the context? until then I still have hope.

You can google it yourself if you're interested. Like I said, I just read about it...

If you're going to post that you read something, it's best to provide a link otherwise we don't believe you, or hold your comments in limbo. I don't want to go out and prove you right, you should be able to offer than information up front. Whether it's a simple google search or something more indepth. Call me lazy, whatever. I could post utter crap and tell you it's out there, to read about it. And if you couldn't find it then your inept googling skills are not my problem. None of this helps the conversation.

He's not going to Detroit. I read somewhere else that he was being interviewed on ESPN recently and they were trying to grill him on where he might want to go... One of the hosts mentioned Detroit and he basically broke out in laughter and said 'no'. Not gonna happen.

Oh, well case slosed! You have the clip so we can see the context? until then I still have hope.

You can google it yourself if you're interested. Like I said, I just read about it...

LOL, yup went to google typed in..."Interviewed on ESPN recently and they were trying to grill him on where he might want to go... One of the hosts mentioned Detroit and he basically broke out in laughter and said 'no'. Not gonna happen."

Even tried "Nnamdi said No", that didnt work.

SURPRISE...didnt bring up much, lol.

Maybe I asked for a link because you didnt provide any useful information.

You're right, I don't know that much about Detroit beyond an Eminem car ad and that it's cold a lot of the time. I don't see any references in your post either, about how the movie seen has been growing in Detroit, just a few things were Aso had roles in. And when you reference the money that the club has been spending and say " knows the time is now " this is all conjecture. The time might never be "now". The owners run this as a business and some of them rather put out substandard teams to pull in the profit they can. In closing, I would rather Philly NOT get Aso. I think he's carries too much expectations with him, and his $ tag will be more than I (if I were the owener) would be willing to pay.

 

[massraider]

Also, he is big into broadcasting and Detroit is a top 10 market in the radio world...and he loves to act, and Michigan, especially Detroit has been a big city for filming sites in the US in the past 2 years.

He loves to act? What's your favorite Asomougha movie role?

Cast Away? Escape From Oakland? Platoon?If you were going to try and do more acting, Detroit really isn't the place to go, last two years notwithstanding.OTOH - ify ou want to act, WHERE isn't a big deal if you have the money he does. Fly where you want to shoot in the off season.

I don't care if they film every other movie in Detroit, actors get jobs in LA and NYC. Pretty sure filmmakers don't fly out to Detroit with a script, hoping to fill the lead roles with whoever is standing around the Detroit airport. You wanna hop on a movie set as a set builder or an extra? Detroit is the place. I do, however, think that Football Critic's larger point is correct: People aren't going to NOT go to Detroit because it's a complete ####hole (which it is, and Michigan in general is circling the drain). If the team is competitive, and the money is right, players will go there. Pretty sure Green Bay, WI isn't Shangri-La for young black millionaires, but sure hasn't seemed to hurt them.

Since your obviously an outsider, I will tell you....Good things are happening in Detroit, but I'll be quite blunt...IF YOUR NOT FROM THERE OR NEVER BEEN THERE, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW? The news? TV? what other people who never been there say? Please.Your comment is really insulting to a lot of people from there. Many thing in Detroit are Great. I have lived or worked in Grand Rapids, Nawlins, Jackson Miss, Hattiesburg Miss (Go Southern Miss), Nashville, Lousiville, South Bend, Wash DC, Toledo, Destin FL, Detroit, Flint, Philly, New York, Huntsville AL, the Houston Area, Lake Charles, La, and some other places in Ohio. I have not been out west at all sadly, but any where on this side of the Mississippi, I have. I'm no expert on travel, but just a person who has had a chance to see half the country. I promise I spent at least a good amount of time in all these places, and Detroit is far from the Worse. Anything short of Florida, and they have their issues, and Detroit ranks up there. But to say Detroit is the one going down the toilet, I disagree, but you are entitled to your opinion. But Bashing a city is pretty harsh.I lived in Nawlins thru Katrina, and that actually led to the reason of me moving so much. I have seen what good and bad cities have looked like at their worst and best. I dont expect you to really care about that. But born in Detroit, I just feel the need to defend my town to the outsiders that disrespect it. I expect you to do the same for your town or City.Does this also mean Aso will or won't come here...No! Who knows what plays into his decision, I just hope that if he don't know much about the "D", he does more research than you do.

Just because people live there, and get insulted, doesn't make it untrue. Hey, Haiti has some positives too.There is only one state that shrunk in size from 2000 to 2010. Did you know that? Can you guess which one it is? I bet you can. Do you suppose that's because good things are happening there, or because the economy is circling the drain?

 

[Football Critic]

He's not going to Detroit. I read somewhere else that he was being interviewed on ESPN recently and they were trying to grill him on where he might want to go... One of the hosts mentioned Detroit and he basically broke out in laughter and said 'no'. Not gonna happen.

Oh, well case slosed! You have the clip so we can see the context? until then I still have hope.

You can google it yourself if you're interested. Like I said, I just read about it...

If you're going to post that you read something, it's best to provide a link otherwise we don't believe you, or hold your comments in limbo. I don't want to go out and prove you right, you should be able to offer than information up front. Whether it's a simple google search or something more indepth. Call me lazy, whatever. I could post utter crap and tell you it's out there, to read about it. And if you couldn't find it then your inept googling skills are not my problem. None of this helps the conversation.

He's not going to Detroit. I read somewhere else that he was being interviewed on ESPN recently and they were trying to grill him on where he might want to go... One of the hosts mentioned Detroit and he basically broke out in laughter and said 'no'. Not gonna happen.

Oh, well case slosed! You have the clip so we can see the context? until then I still have hope.

You can google it yourself if you're interested. Like I said, I just read about it...

LOL, yup went to google typed in..."Interviewed on ESPN recently and they were trying to grill him on where he might want to go... One of the hosts mentioned Detroit and he basically broke out in laughter and said 'no'. Not gonna happen."

Even tried "Nnamdi said No", that didnt work.

SURPRISE...didnt bring up much, lol.

Maybe I asked for a link because you didnt provide any useful information.

You're right, I don't know that much about Detroit beyond an Eminem car ad and that it's cold a lot of the time. I don't see any references in your post either, about how the movie seen has been growing in Detroit, just a few things were Aso had roles in. And when you reference the money that the club has been spending and say " knows the time is now " this is all conjecture. The time might never be "now". The owners run this as a business and some of them rather put out substandard teams to pull in the profit they can. In closing, I would rather Philly NOT get Aso. I think he's carries too much expectations with him, and his $ tag will be more than I (if I were the owener) would be willing to pay.

http://www.michiganfilmoffice.org/Made-in-Michigan/Film/Default.aspxNotice the GROWTH since the filming initiative was passed in 2008? I sure do.

Some pretty big movies too!

 

[Football Critic]

Also, he is big into broadcasting and Detroit is a top 10 market in the radio world...and he loves to act, and Michigan, especially Detroit has been a big city for filming sites in the US in the past 2 years.

He loves to act? What's your favorite Asomougha movie role?

Cast Away? Escape From Oakland? Platoon?If you were going to try and do more acting, Detroit really isn't the place to go, last two years notwithstanding.OTOH - ify ou want to act, WHERE isn't a big deal if you have the money he does. Fly where you want to shoot in the off season.

I don't care if they film every other movie in Detroit, actors get jobs in LA and NYC. Pretty sure filmmakers don't fly out to Detroit with a script, hoping to fill the lead roles with whoever is standing around the Detroit airport. You wanna hop on a movie set as a set builder or an extra? Detroit is the place. I do, however, think that Football Critic's larger point is correct: People aren't going to NOT go to Detroit because it's a complete ####hole (which it is, and Michigan in general is circling the drain). If the team is competitive, and the money is right, players will go there. Pretty sure Green Bay, WI isn't Shangri-La for young black millionaires, but sure hasn't seemed to hurt them.

Since your obviously an outsider, I will tell you....Good things are happening in Detroit, but I'll be quite blunt...IF YOUR NOT FROM THERE OR NEVER BEEN THERE, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW? The news? TV? what other people who never been there say? Please.Your comment is really insulting to a lot of people from there. Many thing in Detroit are Great. I have lived or worked in Grand Rapids, Nawlins, Jackson Miss, Hattiesburg Miss (Go Southern Miss), Nashville, Lousiville, South Bend, Wash DC, Toledo, Destin FL, Detroit, Flint, Philly, New York, Huntsville AL, the Houston Area, Lake Charles, La, and some other places in Ohio. I have not been out west at all sadly, but any where on this side of the Mississippi, I have. I'm no expert on travel, but just a person who has had a chance to see half the country. I promise I spent at least a good amount of time in all these places, and Detroit is far from the Worse. Anything short of Florida, and they have their issues, and Detroit ranks up there. But to say Detroit is the one going down the toilet, I disagree, but you are entitled to your opinion. But Bashing a city is pretty harsh.I lived in Nawlins thru Katrina, and that actually led to the reason of me moving so much. I have seen what good and bad cities have looked like at their worst and best. I dont expect you to really care about that. But born in Detroit, I just feel the need to defend my town to the outsiders that disrespect it. I expect you to do the same for your town or City.Does this also mean Aso will or won't come here...No! Who knows what plays into his decision, I just hope that if he don't know much about the "D", he does more research than you do.

Just because people live there, and get insulted, doesn't make it untrue. Hey, Haiti has some positives too.There is only one state that shrunk in size from 2000 to 2010. Did you know that? Can you guess which one it is? I bet you can. Do you suppose that's because good things are happening there, or because the economy is circling the drain?

Yup the economy in michigan is the only one suffering, lol.You just compared Michigan to Haiti, shows the level I'm dealing with...lolNo point to continue, lol, Seriously, Michigan and Haiti?

 

[massraider]

Yup the economy in michigan is the only one suffering, lol.You just compared Michigan to Haiti, shows the level I'm dealing with...lolNo point to continue, lol, Seriously, Michigan and Haiti?

Didn't say the Michigan economy was the only one suffering. But it is suffering more than most. A LOT more than most. The comparison to Haiti was basic: Of course there's good things about Detroit. There's good things about every place, including Haiti (Let's say Port-au-Prince, apples to apples).But when you try and defend a place, and list the good things, and one of them is: Ummm, they're filming more movies there, that's not good, my friend. It's a crap place. It's great that you lived there, and want to defend it. Understandable.

 

[Clifford]

At what point did this thread stop have anything to do with the player in op or football? :lock: and delete

 

[Jason Wood]

I don't know why some are being so dismissive of Detroit. Asomugha is a very smart, reasoned player by all accounts. I wouldn't put it past him to see Detroit as a potential young, up-and-coming team that could contend with the addition of someone like him. Now do I think Detroit is a favorite for his services? No. In fact the Lions wouldn't be in my Top 3 destinations. But would it shock me? Absolutely not.

 

[dhockster]

I don't know why some are being so dismissive of Detroit. Asomugha is a very smart, reasoned player by all accounts. I wouldn't put it past him to see Detroit as a potential young, up-and-coming team that could contend with the addition of someone like him. Now do I think Detroit is a favorite for his services? No. In fact the Lions wouldn't be in my Top 3 destinations. But would it shock me? Absolutely not.

I don't think people are being overly dismissive of Detroit, I think they are reacting more to Football Critic's defense of Detroit as a place people want to go to live. I have said that if Detroit throws more money at Aso then they can get him. If the money is equal and Aso has to choose say between Detroit, Green Bay, Dallas and Philadelphia, from a football situation/organizational reputation Detroit ranks fourth among those four. From a destination standpoint I can't say that Detroit necessarily ranks ahead of the other three. So yes, for me, if Detroit does not throw significantly more money at Aso, it would surprise me if he picked Detroit.

 

[Andrew Garda]

He's not going to Detroit. I read somewhere else that he was being interviewed on ESPN recently and they were trying to grill him on where he might want to go... One of the hosts mentioned Detroit and he basically broke out in laughter and said 'no'. Not gonna happen.

Oh, well case slosed! You have the clip so we can see the context? until then I still have hope.

You can google it yourself if you're interested. Like I said, I just read about it...

If you're going to post that you read something, it's best to provide a link otherwise we don't believe you, or hold your comments in limbo. I don't want to go out and prove you right, you should be able to offer than information up front. Whether it's a simple google search or something more indepth. Call me lazy, whatever. I could post utter crap and tell you it's out there, to read about it. And if you couldn't find it then your inept googling skills are not my problem. None of this helps the conversation.

He's not going to Detroit. I read somewhere else that he was being interviewed on ESPN recently and they were trying to grill him on where he might want to go... One of the hosts mentioned Detroit and he basically broke out in laughter and said 'no'. Not gonna happen.

Oh, well case slosed! You have the clip so we can see the context? until then I still have hope.

You can google it yourself if you're interested. Like I said, I just read about it...

LOL, yup went to google typed in..."Interviewed on ESPN recently and they were trying to grill him on where he might want to go... One of the hosts mentioned Detroit and he basically broke out in laughter and said 'no'. Not gonna happen."

Even tried "Nnamdi said No", that didnt work.

SURPRISE...didnt bring up much, lol.

Maybe I asked for a link because you didnt provide any useful information.

You're right, I don't know that much about Detroit beyond an Eminem car ad and that it's cold a lot of the time. I don't see any references in your post either, about how the movie seen has been growing in Detroit, just a few things were Aso had roles in. And when you reference the money that the club has been spending and say " knows the time is now " this is all conjecture. The time might never be "now". The owners run this as a business and some of them rather put out substandard teams to pull in the profit they can. In closing, I would rather Philly NOT get Aso. I think he's carries too much expectations with him, and his $ tag will be more than I (if I were the owener) would be willing to pay.

http://www.michiganf...lm/Default.aspxNotice the GROWTH since the filming initiative was passed in 2008? I sure do.

Some pretty big movies too!

I think that's great - Cali and NY really take their film communities for granted....That said...

I'd be large portions of some of those films were NOT filmed in Michigan.

Nobody is moving to Michigan to be in the film biz. Trust me.

That ALSO said (and back to the actual point)

If Aso wants to go to Michigan, he's going. He can fly anywhere he wants to be in a commercial. I think Detroit as a team is VERY attractive. If the offer is right, he'd take it. I don't even know it has to be the biggest offer. Maybe it wouldn't be in my top three, but it's viable for a ton of reasons. That defense is shaping up to be very good.....

 

[Dr. Awesome]

C'mon football critic you can't be serious. While I'm not saying the Lions would be a bad team for him to sign with, all other things being equal there's no way Detroit can offer the lifestyle of many other cities. And while the Lions COULD open their wallets, I have yet to see them do so to the extent of some other franchises. If you were a gambling man I think many other owners would be picked as more likely to overspend for a guy.

Whether he wants a city with a nightlife is another matter. But let's not pretend Detroit is going to hold up if that's important to him and everything else is equal.

Also, he is big into broadcasting and Detroit is a top 10 market in the radio world...and he loves to act, and Michigan, especially Detroit has been a big city for filming sites in the US in the past 2 years. Michigans to a filming initiative. So Detroit is not as bad as the Media makes it look....And have you ever been to Detroit at night, better yet accross the boarder to Windsor, Canada? When he can cross a bridge an have that type of fun there as well, do some research before you attempt to bash a city, lol. We have created a type of music from a club scene standpoint, and Detroit is Motown so tons of music options...seriously, bash Detroit, but really that shows no understandsing of the City.

ETA: Detroit just turned down "Hard Knocks" FWIW...that sux.

Come to Detroit for the Canadian nightlife!

 

[Football Critic]

At what point did this thread stop have anything to do with the player in op or football? :lock: and delete

UUUMMMMM, the thread is "Whither goes Aso"...the debate is what would make him go to Detroit.Thx tho!

 

[Football Critic]

Yup the economy in michigan is the only one suffering, lol.

You just compared Michigan to Haiti, shows the level I'm dealing with...lol

No point to continue, lol, Seriously, Michigan and Haiti?

Didn't say the Michigan economy was the only one suffering. But it is suffering more than most. A LOT more than most. The comparison to Haiti was basic: Of course there's good things about Detroit. There's good things about every place, including Haiti (Let's say Port-au-Prince, apples to apples).But when you try and defend a place, and list the good things, and one of them is: Ummm, they're filming more movies there, that's not good, my friend.

It's a crap place. It's great that you lived there, and want to defend it. Understandable.

I asked once, got no response and I'll ask again...have you ever been to Detroit?I'm guessing know thru your comments, and if you even say yes, I will not believe you. Cuz you avoided it last time.

So that leaves me to your comment of it being a crap place, just gotta agree to disagree with a person who has never been there I guess.

Please tell me about other places you never been?

 

[higgins]

I asked once, got no response and I'll ask again...have you ever been to Detroit?

I'm guessing know thru your comments, and if you even say yes, I will not believe you. Cuz you avoided it last time.

So that leaves me to your comment of it being a crap place, just gotta agree to disagree with a person who has never been there I guess.

Please tell me about other places you never been?

I've been to Detroit many times -- it's a #### city. Friends I know that grew up there couldn't wait to leave. Friends I know that relocated there couldn't wait to leave. The local politicians make for an "I couldn't make this stuff up" soap opera. The local economy would make me want to throw up in my mouth if I actually had to live there. People were only being nice by not having trashed your posts earlier -- now it's time for you to return the favor by just stopping with your ridiculous defense.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I asked once, got no response and I'll ask again...have you ever been to Detroit?

I'm guessing know thru your comments, and if you even say yes, I will not believe you. Cuz you avoided it last time.

So that leaves me to your comment of it being a crap place, just gotta agree to disagree with a person who has never been there I guess.

Please tell me about other places you never been?

I've been to Detroit many times -- it's a #### city. Friends I know that grew up there couldn't wait to leave. Friends I know that relocated there couldn't wait to leave. The local politicians make for an "I couldn't make this stuff up" soap opera. The local economy would make me want to throw up in my mouth if I actually had to live there. People were only being nice by not having trashed your posts earlier -- now it's time for you to return the favor by just stopping with your ridiculous defense.

Never been to Detroit either, but I have a good friend that moved here (Florida) over 15 years ago. He also has nothing nice to say about Detroit. And I know at least ten other people who when asked why they moved here from Michigan, they all go

Back to Nnamdi, he'll go wherever the highest bidder takes him. I think he'll end up "settling" for a $12 million a year/ 5 year minimum deal, with as much guarantees as the new CBA affords. I could see Washington being able to do that. I also could see Al Davis working with Nnamdi to stay in Oakland the rest of his career, not saying that it's probable, but a remote possibility.

 

[Andrew Garda]

Back to Nnamdi, he'll go wherever the highest bidder takes him. I think he'll end up "settling" for a $12 million a year/ 5 year minimum deal, with as much guarantees as the new CBA affords. I could see Washington being able to do that. I also could see Al Davis working with Nnamdi to stay in Oakland the rest of his career, not saying that it's probable, but a remote possibility.

I thought the Raiders were pretty much moving on? I'd have to find the link....... but I thought they weren't going to sign him...

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Back to Nnamdi, he'll go wherever the highest bidder takes him. I think he'll end up "settling" for a $12 million a year/ 5 year minimum deal, with as much guarantees as the new CBA affords. I could see Washington being able to do that. I also could see Al Davis working with Nnamdi to stay in Oakland the rest of his career, not saying that it's probable, but a remote possibility.

I thought the Raiders were pretty much moving on? I'd have to find the link....... but I thought they weren't going to sign him...

You are right about that. Raider beat writer Jerry McDonald is of the mind that the Raiders have "moved on" with Nnamdi. But depending on how favorably the CBA turns out, and how much more revenue will come the owners way, the whole dynamic of how much Al Davis pays (or overpays as he's been doing this offseason) could change. It's remote, but if the economics are there, Al would bring him back with open arms. Nnamdi is a good man, good teammate, excellent in the community, and loves living in Northern California. I think he'd want to stay. Additionally, if he were to get a 5 year deal with the Raiders, he'd play a couple more years at the "elite" level and switch over to safety in the Rod Woodson tradition. When you think about it, the Raiders are still the perfect place for Nnamdi's talents, both short term and long term. But the money has to be right too.

 

[scratcher]

As much as I don't want to join the Detroit debate, I'll just say my two cents.

I moved to a suburb of detroit last year and I'm doing my medical residency in downtown detroit so i'll be here for 4-5 years. Yes, parts of downtown are crappy, the leadership is a joke/ vastly corrupt, it is THE location to shoot any post-armageddon film and people are fleeing the city so fast that the city is challenging the recent census results as false. BUUUUT, it is still a "big city" and has all the big city perks. Good restaurants, culture, 4 sports teams. There are some bright spots downtown to live but the suburbs are fantastic and full of character. There are a ton of young professionals and great night life in the suburb I live in. It's like a city outside the city. Some other areas are ultra ritzy and some of the nicest areas I've seen (and I've lived all around for school). There was a lot of money in Detroit at some point and you can see that in some of the suburbs around here.

Do I think Detroit will ever be back to its old glory? No, probably not. To call it a complete ****-hole is a bit naive.

Anyway, back to the point, reasons why Nnamdi could come to Detroit:

1. Up and coming team

2. Good looking d-line that will help take the pressure of the secondary

3. Lots of community building opportunities

4. There are actually nice places to live

Why I think he wont come to Detroit:

1. I think the Lions might push for a playoff spot but are still a couple years from competing for a ring

2. Lack of any other playmakers in the secondary

3. Nnamdi is going to Philly

 

[Football Critic]

I asked once, got no response and I'll ask again...have you ever been to Detroit?

I'm guessing know thru your comments, and if you even say yes, I will not believe you. Cuz you avoided it last time.

So that leaves me to your comment of it being a crap place, just gotta agree to disagree with a person who has never been there I guess.

Please tell me about other places you never been?

I've been to Detroit many times -- it's a #### city. Friends I know that grew up there couldn't wait to leave. Friends I know that relocated there couldn't wait to leave. The local politicians make for an "I couldn't make this stuff up" soap opera. The local economy would make me want to throw up in my mouth if I actually had to live there. People were only being nice by not having trashed your posts earlier -- now it's time for you to return the favor by just stopping with your ridiculous defense.

I'll keep it simple, an educated opinion about Detroit is fine...and uneducated opinion about Detroit is not! To say that Detroit has no pluses not only shows uneducation, shows a little ignorance IMHO.

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

I still think the Eagles and the Buccaneers are going to be the two front runners. I also keep reading about interest from the Jets and could totally see that happening...

 

[Detroit Revival]

I asked once, got no response and I'll ask again...have you ever been to Detroit?

I'm guessing know thru your comments, and if you even say yes, I will not believe you. Cuz you avoided it last time.

So that leaves me to your comment of it being a crap place, just gotta agree to disagree with a person who has never been there I guess.

Please tell me about other places you never been?

I've been to Detroit many times -- it's a #### city. Friends I know that grew up there couldn't wait to leave. Friends I know that relocated there couldn't wait to leave. The local politicians make for an "I couldn't make this stuff up" soap opera. The local economy would make me want to throw up in my mouth if I actually had to live there. People were only being nice by not having trashed your posts earlier -- now it's time for you to return the favor by just stopping with your ridiculous defense.

I'll keep it simple, an educated opinion about Detroit is fine...and uneducated opinion about Detroit is not! To say that Detroit has no pluses not only shows uneducation, shows a little ignorance IMHO.

I'll second that. I've spent a lot of time in Detroit. I also love what the team is doing. Honestly if Asomugha had become a free agent in 2012 I could see the Lions making a serious push. They wouldn't offer top money. They'd have to be compelling in other areas. That's what the Lions are working towards. The organization as a whole has gotten smarter, harder working, and gained a lot of respect thanks to Mayhew and Schwartz. That's going to be a huge factor in the decision. Changing a team's culture takes time, but that's what's happening in Detroit. Any city you move to has shady areas. You're jaded to think Asomugha would drive to the bad side of Det. and just say it wasn't for him.

 

[Football Critic]

I asked once, got no response and I'll ask again...have you ever been to Detroit?

I'm guessing no thru your comments, and if you even say yes, I will not believe you. Cuz you avoided it last time.

So that leaves me to your comment of it being a crap place, just gotta agree to disagree with a person who has never been there I guess.

Please tell me about other places you never been?

I've been to Detroit many times -- it's a #### city. Friends I know that grew up there couldn't wait to leave. Friends I know that relocated there couldn't wait to leave. The local politicians make for an "I couldn't make this stuff up" soap opera. The local economy would make me want to throw up in my mouth if I actually had to live there. People were only being nice by not having trashed your posts earlier -- now it's time for you to return the favor by just stopping with your ridiculous defense.

I'll keep it simple, an educated opinion about Detroit is fine...and uneducated opinion about Detroit is not! To say that Detroit has no pluses not only shows uneducation, shows a little ignorance IMHO.

I'll second that. I've spent a lot of time in Detroit. I also love what the team is doing. Honestly if Asomugha had become a free agent in 2012 I could see the Lions making a serious push. They wouldn't offer top money. They'd have to be compelling in other areas. That's what the Lions are working towards. The organization as a whole has gotten smarter, harder working, and gained a lot of respect thanks to Mayhew and Schwartz. That's going to be a huge factor in the decision. Changing a team's culture takes time, but that's what's happening in Detroit. Any city you move to has shady areas. You're jaded to think Asomugha would drive to the bad side of Det. and just say it wasn't for him.

Detroit should be able to offer a good chunk lf change, I dont know what would keep them from that if the season has no cap, or even if it does.I know Detroit knows they are close, and a key player like that can put them right there.

This would be a huge jolt for the team and city.

 

[Cawbird]

One would think that Washington would want to pony up for Asomugha. Look at the WR in that division:

Dallas - Bryant, Austin

N. Y. Giants - Nicks, Smith

Phily - Jackson, Maclin

I know that most of Aso's time was spent on 1 side of the field while in Oakland, but Washington could use all the help it can get to shut down those WR.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Gil Brandt seems to think there's a decent chance that Oakland will retain Asomugha. Also picks the Raiders to win the AFC West.

http://www.footballnewsnow.com/2011/no-joke-an-argument-for-asomugha-back-in-oakland/