Who are you benching to play Romo? (1 Viewer)

[dmac37]

Romo vs SmithI had Romo as my starter all week but just now switched to Smith, on a hunch and for the following reasons.Washington D coming off a bye, their season is on the line, and 2 starting corners return.Smith seems to play better at home, Romo on the road, often a new QB looks good for a game or two then teams have more film to prepare against them. So in the end I decided on Smith for these reasons, he has played well all season except against the top defenses and not so good on the road at times.

Read above - I made the same decision for many of the same reasons. When undecided, things swing it - like playing at home against a team that gave up 350 to Brady last week versus playing on the road against a division rival that is well rested.

Lets hope its more of this rather than this good luck

 

[jerseyh8r]

Romo vs Smith

I had Romo as my starter all week but just now switched to Smith, on a hunch and for the following reasons.

Washington D coming off a bye, their season is on the line, and 2 starting corners return.

Smith seems to play better at home, Romo on the road, often a new QB looks good for a game or two then teams have more film to prepare against them.

So in the end I decided on Smith for these reasons, he has played well all season except against the top defenses and not so good on the road at times.

Good post....this may have swung me back to Smith. Didn't realize that (per CBS), "(DC Williams) will have all 11 of his projected starters available for the first time this season when the Redskins host the Dallas Cowboys on Sunday. Injuries to Shawn Springs, Carlos Rogers, Cornelius Griffin, Joe Salave'a and Lemar Marshall have caused the Redskins to shuffle personnel every game. This week, for the first time, every defensive player on the roster was available for practice."

 

[[scooter]]

I can't believe some of you people who are benching "known commodities" for an unproven player.

 

[redman]

Romo vs Smith

I had Romo as my starter all week but just now switched to Smith, on a hunch and for the following reasons.

Washington D coming off a bye, their season is on the line, and 2 starting corners return.

Smith seems to play better at home, Romo on the road, often a new QB looks good for a game or two then teams have more film to prepare against them.

So in the end I decided on Smith for these reasons, he has played well all season except against the top defenses and not so good on the road at times.

Good post....this may have swung me back to Smith. Didn't realize that (per CBS), "(DC Williams) will have all 11 of his projected starters available for the first time this season when the Redskins host the Dallas Cowboys on Sunday. Injuries to Shawn Springs, Carlos Rogers, Cornelius Griffin, Joe Salave'a and Lemar Marshall have caused the Redskins to shuffle personnel every game. This week, for the first time, every defensive player on the roster was available for practice."

As a 'Skins fan I'm going to be very interested to see how this defense plays intact. The irony will be that they actually won't be playing with all of their "starters", at least as envisioned when they began the season, because Archuleta is apparently being benched for Troy Vincent in order to improve their pass coverage. I still think that Romo's apparent ability to see and hit Witten on check downs, together with his ability to scramble and buy time, will enabe him to have a good fantasy performance today.

 

[RenegadeGM]

Count me in as another owner with a Favre/Romo dilemma. The two couldn't be in more similar of a situation, minus the experience factor.

I currently have Romo in there, though I'm not sold 100% on leaving him in at 1 PM. I wonder if this could be one of those "now that we have film on the guy" type deals, where a team is better able to prepare for a QB's tendencies after he's been a starter for a few weeks. I do like his ability to make plays on the ground and figure he might be ablr to cancel an INT he could very well throw with 10-20 rushing yards.

I think you could toss a coin on these two guys. One will end up being the better play, I just hope it is the one in my lineup at 1 PM!

 

[Hellfire Snail]

Terrell Owens, Terry Glenn, Jason Witten...enough said.

START ROMO

 

[mosesberg]

I benched Plummer for Romo.

 

[[scooter]]

I benched Plummer for Romo.

And I benched Droughns for Tomlinson.

 

[Sweeper]

Matt Hasselbeck

 

[redman]

Brunell (McNabb is on a bye). I'm a bit leery as Brunell has had some nice fantasy performances against Dallas for Washington, even in losing efforts.

Romo put up 10 more points than Brunell. redman = Redskins beat Cowboys anyway. redman =

 

[Revo]

I benched Eli Manning to play Romo -- risky call, but it worked out great.

 

[code]

Delhomme on a bye, Romo = quality filler

 

[Marc Levin]

I am starting Alex Smith over Romo,

How's Alex done for you this year? Have you started him much? Can you tell(somewhat) the weeks he'll do well vs the weeks he'll struggle?

I keep picking "wrong."

And the streak continues. Tell you what, check with me next week, find out who I'm starting, and start the other one.

 

[dmac37]

Romo vs SmithI had Romo as my starter all week but just now switched to Smith, on a hunch and for the following reasons.Washington D coming off a bye, their season is on the line, and 2 starting corners return.Smith seems to play better at home, Romo on the road, often a new QB looks good for a game or two then teams have more film to prepare against them. So in the end I decided on Smith for these reasons, he has played well all season except against the top defenses and not so good on the road at times.

Read above - I made the same decision for many of the same reasons. When undecided, things swing it - like playing at home against a team that gave up 350 to Brady last week versus playing on the road against a division rival that is well rested.

Lets hope its more of this rather than this good luck

Holly crap, I sure out smarted myself on this one!

 

[SickThing]

Romo was a little better than I expected and I did better with him in than Big Ben and his picks. However Romo only had one TD and was not the better play than a lot of choices I saw listed here, and that's just the sort of thing I was trying to alert y'all about.

It's a shame the refs made that horrible call for 15 yards on the facemask when it obviously should have been a 5 yarder, or Romo could of had the chance to pad his numbers in OT, as well as the Cowboys having the chance to play for the win. Just a really horrible call that if made correctly would have probably made the winning FG out of Novak's range.

 

[Aussie Cowboy]

However Romo only had one TD

He had two.

 

[SickThing]

However Romo only had one TD

He had two.

You're right. I screwed it up. Still not the best QB out there today. ETA: Due to circumstances, I started Garrard and Huard in other leagues and they were better than Romo.

 

[redman]

It's a shame the refs made that horrible call for 15 yards on the facemask when it obviously should have been a 5 yarder

It was enough of a facemask grab to tug Taylor's head to the side. That's a 15-yarder 10 out of 10 times. Rotten luck to be sure, but the play was called correctly.

 

[SickThing]

It's a shame the refs made that horrible call for 15 yards on the facemask when it obviously should have been a 5 yarder

It was enough of a facemask grab to tug Taylor's head to the side. That's a 15-yarder 10 out of 10 times. Rotten luck to be sure, but the play was called correctly.

I heard several commentaters say the same thing about disagreeing with the call. The grasp (which seemed accidental) was very quickly released and didn't turn his head completely to the side like you make it sound. You may be right that another ref may have called it that way too, but I don't buy it that 10 out of 10 would at all. The definition of the 15 yard is "flagrant". The definition of the 5 yarder is "incidental". This was incidental, not flagrant.

 

[redman]

It's a shame the refs made that horrible call for 15 yards on the facemask when it obviously should have been a 5 yarder

It was enough of a facemask grab to tug Taylor's head to the side. That's a 15-yarder 10 out of 10 times. Rotten luck to be sure, but the play was called correctly.

I heard several commentaters say the same thing about disagreeing with the call. The grasp (which seemed accidental) was very quickly released and didn't turn his head completely to the side like you make it sound. You may be right that another ref may have called it that way too, but I don't buy it that 10 out of 10 would at all. The definition of the 15 yard is "flagrant". The definition of the 5 yarder is "incidental". This was incidental, not flagrant.

I feel your pain, but here's the rule, and here's the infraction. You tell me.

15 Yards

8. Twisting, turning, or pulling an opponent by the facemask.

 

[sinatravolta]

Looking like I should have benched Brady for Romo. Luckily I'm going to win my game anyway. But instincts were correct on this one, although I didn't have the sack to actually do it.

 

[SickThing]

It's a shame the refs made that horrible call for 15 yards on the facemask when it obviously should have been a 5 yarder

It was enough of a facemask grab to tug Taylor's head to the side. That's a 15-yarder 10 out of 10 times. Rotten luck to be sure, but the play was called correctly.

I heard several commentaters say the same thing about disagreeing with the call. The grasp (which seemed accidental) was very quickly released and didn't turn his head completely to the side like you make it sound. You may be right that another ref may have called it that way too, but I don't buy it that 10 out of 10 would at all. The definition of the 15 yard is "flagrant". The definition of the 5 yarder is "incidental". This was incidental, not flagrant.

I feel your pain, but here's the rule, and here's the infraction. You tell me.

15 Yards

8. Twisting, turning, or pulling an opponent by the facemask.

This photo doesn't help to distinguish whether the head is turned to look upfield or because of the slight turn of the head that happened from the very brief facemask grasp. In fact, you can't see the hand on the facemask here at all. From watching the slow motion video replay, I still say it was a bad judgement call and the majority of refs would have went with 5 yards. The grasp lasted a fraction of a second.

 

[sinatravolta]

It's a shame the refs made that horrible call for 15 yards on the facemask when it obviously should have been a 5 yarder

It was enough of a facemask grab to tug Taylor's head to the side. That's a 15-yarder 10 out of 10 times. Rotten luck to be sure, but the play was called correctly.

I heard several commentaters say the same thing about disagreeing with the call. The grasp (which seemed accidental) was very quickly released and didn't turn his head completely to the side like you make it sound. You may be right that another ref may have called it that way too, but I don't buy it that 10 out of 10 would at all. The definition of the 15 yard is "flagrant". The definition of the 5 yarder is "incidental". This was incidental, not flagrant.

I feel your pain, but here's the rule, and here's the infraction. You tell me.

15 Yards

8. Twisting, turning, or pulling an opponent by the facemask.

This photo doesn't help to distinguish whether the head is turned to look upfield or because of the slight turn of the head that happened from the very brief facemask grasp. In fact, you can't see the hand on the facemask here at all. From watching the slow motion video replay, I still say it was a bad judgement call and the majority of refs would have went with 5 yards. The grasp lasted a fraction of a second.

If you saw the game there was absolutely no doubt that the guy's hand on the facemask turned Taylor's head.There are plenty of reasons you can cite why the Cowboys should have won this game - and they should have (e.g. kicking an extra point after their first TD, TO not dropping that long pass that should have been a TD, etc.) - but this is NOT one of them.

 

[Steelers4Life]

Benched Brees for him when Horn was declared out. Romo had a nice game, but the 12 point difference would've been enough for me to win this week. Now I'll need 9 points from Jerry Porter in a PPR league to pull it out.

 

[redman]

It's a shame the refs made that horrible call for 15 yards on the facemask when it obviously should have been a 5 yarder

It was enough of a facemask grab to tug Taylor's head to the side. That's a 15-yarder 10 out of 10 times. Rotten luck to be sure, but the play was called correctly.

I heard several commentaters say the same thing about disagreeing with the call. The grasp (which seemed accidental) was very quickly released and didn't turn his head completely to the side like you make it sound. You may be right that another ref may have called it that way too, but I don't buy it that 10 out of 10 would at all. The definition of the 15 yard is "flagrant". The definition of the 5 yarder is "incidental". This was incidental, not flagrant.

I feel your pain, but here's the rule, and here's the infraction. You tell me.

15 Yards

8. Twisting, turning, or pulling an opponent by the facemask.

This photo doesn't help to distinguish whether the head is turned to look upfield or because of the slight turn of the head that happened from the very brief facemask grasp. In fact, you can't see the hand on the facemask here at all. From watching the slow motion video replay, I still say it was a bad judgement call and the majority of refs would have went with 5 yards. The grasp lasted a fraction of a second.

Here's the full sequence of screen shots; the one I posted above is the fourth:First shot

Second shot

Third Shot

Fourth Shot

 

[SickThing]

It's a shame the refs made that horrible call for 15 yards on the facemask when it obviously should have been a 5 yarder

It was enough of a facemask grab to tug Taylor's head to the side. That's a 15-yarder 10 out of 10 times. Rotten luck to be sure, but the play was called correctly.

I heard several commentaters say the same thing about disagreeing with the call. The grasp (which seemed accidental) was very quickly released and didn't turn his head completely to the side like you make it sound. You may be right that another ref may have called it that way too, but I don't buy it that 10 out of 10 would at all. The definition of the 15 yard is "flagrant". The definition of the 5 yarder is "incidental". This was incidental, not flagrant.

I feel your pain, but here's the rule, and here's the infraction. You tell me.

15 Yards

8. Twisting, turning, or pulling an opponent by the facemask.

This photo doesn't help to distinguish whether the head is turned to look upfield or because of the slight turn of the head that happened from the very brief facemask grasp. In fact, you can't see the hand on the facemask here at all. From watching the slow motion video replay, I still say it was a bad judgement call and the majority of refs would have went with 5 yards. The grasp lasted a fraction of a second.

Here's the full sequence of screen shots; the one I posted above is the fourth:First shot

Second shot

Third Shot

Fourth Shot

I assume you created these stills from captured video, so I know you therefore must know that I'm correct in saying that the hand touches the facemask for a mere split second. I just saw the replay yet again. Yes, the head does turn to the left as the hand slides right off the facemask and obviously no damage is done to the runner to slow him down in the least. He shows no signs of being pulled or twisted other than a slight turn of the head. However you seem to be focused on the your fact that the head indeed turned instead of my fact that there was nothing flagrant about the move at all. We see this differently and it's not getting us anywhere. I know what I saw and what the rule is. I'm not changing my mind on this. Not a big deal, as bad calls happen all of the time. I never brought it up as any argument or to hijack the content as I originally posted in regards to Romo's day.

As for the other Redskins fan who said I was looking for an excuse for the Cowboys loss, you didn't read what I said because I never brought that whatsoever. All I said was this one bad call could have cost Romo owners from getting some more PT out of him. Nothing about wins and losses or any other calls that might have effected the game. I had no intent of going there.

So I hope this covers it because I'll say no more that continues to hijack.

 

[Marc Levin]

It was an incidental facemask that, unfortunately for the D player, had the effect of turning the O player's head - they will give the benefit of the doubt to the O player in that sitch every time b/c of the potential for serious injury by twisting someone;s head with an incidental facemask.

It is not intentionally or fagrantly going for the FMask that draws the 15-yarder, it is most often drawn where, as here, the only way the D-player stopped the OPlayer was due to a face mask grab that twisted the player's head.

You go high on a player and accidentally get some face mask, you are subjecting yourself to a possible 15-yarder.