Who are you targeting for your team? (1 Viewer)

[Limp Dogg Bizkits]

I am getting ready to do our startup draft for a PPR dynasty. Who are the players that you really hope fall to you and what round are you looking to get them?

QB. Brees 4th

QB A Smith 10th

QB Grossman 15th

RB AP or Bush Mid 1st.

RB Portis 2nd

RB Kevin Jones 7th

WR Andre Johnson 4th

WR Evans 4th

WR Moss 5th

WR Edwards 6th

TE Cooley 8th

TE Daniels 15th

TE Olsen 12th

I am sure some of these rounds are off as I have not looked at ADP yet, but these are some guys that I think will have good years and might slip a little as they are not the sexy pics.

 

[The Bad CEO]

RB Portis 2nd

I don't get this one

 

[pretender]

I think you are way off on your wide receivers. In a ppr league they are going to go earlier than you have them projected. Just my thoughts and experience with dynasty start-ups.

 

[Limp Dogg Bizkits]

RB Portis 2nd

I don't get this one

In my league we get to pick where we want to draft based on our draw. I am hoping to get around 6-7 so I can get AP and hope that Portis falls to the 2nd round.

 

[BroadwayG]

RB Portis 2nd

I don't get this one

In my league we get to pick where we want to draft based on our draw. I am hoping to get around 6-7 so I can get AP and hope that Portis falls to the 2nd 4th round.

I believe you have multiple '2' buttons on your keyboard.

 

[Limp Dogg Bizkits]

RB Portis 2nd

I don't get this one

In my league we get to pick where we want to draft based on our draw. I am hoping to get around 6-7 so I can get AP and hope that Portis falls to the 2nd 4th round.

I believe you have multiple '2' buttons on your keyboard.

Portis in the 4th round of a dynasty PPR league? No way.

 

[Bristol]

Why would you "target" anyone? You should let the draft come to you. "Targeting" players is a MAJOR mistake when going into a draft.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Why would you "target" anyone? You should let the draft come to you. "Targeting" players is a MAJOR mistake when going into a draft.

Everyone has an idea/game plan on players they like. See "prime number drafting". If value falls and as the draft gets into the late rounds then of course you change stradegy. To say people do not target anyone is a mistake....and realistically everyone targets certain players.

 

[LordHusker]

Why would you "target" anyone? You should let the draft come to you. "Targeting" players is a MAJOR mistake when going into a draft.

 

[-OZ-]

Why would you "target" anyone? You should let the draft come to you. "Targeting" players is a MAJOR mistake when going into a draft.

Only if you have no basis for an opinion and simply go off of ADP/VDB/ABC/XYZ

 

[Limp Dogg Bizkits]

Why would you "target" anyone? You should let the draft come to you. "Targeting" players is a MAJOR mistake when going into a draft.

I don't see anytthing wrong with having certain players in mind that you want on your team. I like to have a strategy going into a draft. For example, this is an initial draft for a Dynasty. Most of the owners are new to dynasty format so I am really going to focus on building a team for the long term. I might reach a little for a player like Bush, AP, or CJ. If I can get 2 of them in the 1st 2 rounds, and a QB like Leinart or Young, I feel that that will be a solid nucleus to build on long term. I might sacrifice this year to build a team that can win 2 or 3 years in a row in the future. Just because Harrison or SA is available, I might pass on them for a player that is a little lower rated. etc....

 

[Limp Dogg Bizkits]

Why would you "target" anyone? You should let the draft come to you. "Targeting" players is a MAJOR mistake when going into a draft.

Only if you have no basis for an opinion and simply go off of ADP/VDB/ABC/XYZ

If this is all I did, then all I need is a draft sheet and could let a monkey draft for me.

 

[Linton Trust]

i plan my first 6 rounds using to an extreme level... using past drafts to try and figure out what other owners will do... i do fake mock drafts with the owners based on that and then target players at spots i don't think other owners are thinking about them yet. sometimes i even i trade picks to move ahead of owners i think will take someone i like, etc.... i'm considered an annoyance in my league, because i often take a lot of players a round or two before they are expected to go, and am constantly getting told 'there you go reaching again!' etc... i kindda enjoy it though...

like i have Lee Evans ranked as the #3 WR overall this year... his ADP is 41 it seems... however i play in a ppr league and i think he might go earlier than that...

So through trading and manuvering - i have put myself in position to take him at 29... i'm sure to hear the 'another reach' pick again... but i'm sure i'll be stealing him from more than one other owner...

so that's the main person i'm targetting...

 

[-OZ-]

Why would you "target" anyone? You should let the draft come to you. "Targeting" players is a MAJOR mistake when going into a draft.

Only if you have no basis for an opinion and simply go off of ADP/VDB/ABC/XYZ

If this is all I did, then all I need is a draft sheet and could let a monkey draft for me.

FWIW, this wasn't an insult. Many of us don't get the chance to see every player in person or even enough highlights/tape to form a solid opinion, so we rely more on others for our opinions on those players. There will be other players that we have seen enough to form an opinion on, and with some of those, we'll have a higher opinion than the consensus, some we will have a lower opinion of. Those are players we tend to target or avoid. Nobody here is advocating taking Vince Young in the 1st round, but many of us will try our best to get him where his value is - or slightly above.

 

[SSOG]

I'm not targeting anyone, but I've wound up with Ben Roethlisberger in every draft I've participated in so far (one dynasty, one keeper, one redraft).

 

[ImTheScientist]

If you have players you don't like and players you like and you know about where they are drafted how are you not targeting?

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

QB. Brees 4thRB Kevin Jones 7thWR Andre Johnson 4thWR Evans 4thWR Moss 5thWR Edwards 6thTE Cooley 8th

I think these guys will all go at least 1 round earlier than you project. I assume Moss = Randy.

 

[SSOG]

If you have players you don't like and players you like and you know about where they are drafted how are you not targeting?

I draft whoever winds up presenting the most value at my current pick. Just because Roethlisberger has wound up presenting value in all of my drafts doesn't mean I was targeting him. I had no idea at all that I would wind up with Roethlisberger in all of my drafts, it just worked out that way. Knowing "about when" they are "usually" being drafted and knowing where they're actually going to be drafted in my one specific draft are two different things.There's a world of difference, in my mind, between noticing which players generally seem to present value where they're currently being drafted and actually targeting players. I'm not a big Roethlisberger fan, and I honestly didn't expect to end up with him on any of my teams, let alone all three, but I didn't expect to be able to get him as the 14th QB off the board, either.Heck, there have even been times I've wound up drafting players that I REALLY don't like. A search of Chambers' spotlight threads from last year will demonstrate that I'm one of the biggest Chambers haters around, but I wound up taking him in one of my drafts just because he was the best value left at that pick. It's not often that you can find WRs in line for 140+ targets as the 29th WR off the board.

 

[Bristol]

If you have players you don't like and players you like and you know about where they are drafted how are you not targeting?

Again, this is the mistake. As Dodds said in his great perfect draft article, "Don't hate or like anyone"

 

[LordHusker]

If you have players you don't like and players you like and you know about where they are drafted how are you not targeting?

Again, this is the mistake. As Dodds said in his great perfect draft article, "Don't hate or like anyone"

Exactly. You should strive do derive absolutely no pleasure from fantasy football.

 

[Limp Dogg Bizkits]

Here are the results.

Bush 1.5

S Smith 2.8

Benson 3.5

Evans 4.8

Edwards 6.8

Cooley 10.8

Olsen 17.5

Grossman 20.8

I think I did ok.

 

[BroadwayG]

Where did Portis go?

 

[cobalt_27]

If you have players you don't like and players you like and you know about where they are drafted how are you not targeting?

Again, this is the mistake. As Dodds said in his great perfect draft article, "Don't hate or like anyone"

Exactly. You should strive do derive absolutely no pleasure from fantasy football.

And, I think Dodds is dead wrong, anyway.

 

[joffer]

targeting Owen Daniels everywhere i can.

and JP Losman as my QB2

 

[FUBAR]

Who are the players that you really hope fall to you and what round are you looking to get them?

LT, 1st

 

[Tbone]

If you have players you don't like and players you like and you know about where they are drafted how are you not targeting?

Again, this is the mistake. As Dodds said in his great perfect draft article, "Don't hate or like anyone"

I take it you haven't read Dodds' articles called "From the Gut" where he is very specific about players he thinks should be targeted or avoided this year. This isn't an exact science after all. Ultimately a winning team is one that picks THE CORRECT players, not just the RB1, WR3, etc. that a VBD or DD might suggest for a pick. Targeting is always going to be an important part of building a winning team. The key is to stay unbiased as much as possible, but don't blindly take a player that's projected to score a few more points than a player you've become convinced will have a better year. Go with your gut in those cases. And doing that is targeting.

 

[YoUnG GuNz]

Why target anyone, just let the draft come to you.

 

[Spartans Rule]

If you have players you don't like and players you like and you know about where they are drafted how are you not targeting?

Again, this is the mistake. As Dodds said in his great perfect draft article, "Don't hate or like anyone"

I take it you haven't read Dodds' articles called "From the Gut" where he is very specific about players he thinks should be targeted or avoided this year. This isn't an exact science after all. Ultimately a winning team is one that picks THE CORRECT players, not just the RB1, WR3, etc. that a VBD or DD might suggest for a pick. Targeting is always going to be an important part of building a winning team. The key is to stay unbiased as much as possible, but don't blindly take a player that's projected to score a few more points than a player you've become convinced will have a better year. Go with your gut in those cases. And doing that is targeting.

Well, to me that's not possible. If I thought Player A was going to have a better year than Player B, he'd be ahead of him in my projections. All my biases and gut feelings are quantified in my projections. Once they're done, it's just a numbers game.

 

[oscarx21]

If you have players you don't like and players you like and you know about where they are drafted how are you not targeting?

Again, this is the mistake. As Dodds said in his great perfect draft article, "Don't hate or like anyone"

I take it you haven't read Dodds' articles called "From the Gut" where he is very specific about players he thinks should be targeted or avoided this year. This isn't an exact science after all. Ultimately a winning team is one that picks THE CORRECT players, not just the RB1, WR3, etc. that a VBD or DD might suggest for a pick. Targeting is always going to be an important part of building a winning team. The key is to stay unbiased as much as possible, but don't blindly take a player that's projected to score a few more points than a player you've become convinced will have a better year. Go with your gut in those cases. And doing that is targeting.

Well said, I like to use ADP and base my drafts from previous experiences but when the time for my pick is there and I see say 3 guys from the same tier I want, I just go for the guy my guts tell me that will have a better season or that I feel more confident having, good or bad choice only time will tell but thats how I go in my drafts.

 

[wraith5]

Why would you "target" anyone? You should let the draft come to you. "Targeting" players is a MAJOR mistake when going into a draft.

I strongly disagree with this statement. Going into a draft with a "let it come to you" attitude can lead to major problems - targeting back-ups too late, over stocking on one position v another, and BYE week hell among them. I watched it happen in my draft yesterday - 3 guys with either 6 RBs or 6 WRs after 12 picks. 4 guys with 2 of their top 4 RBs/WRs with the same BYE week (3 of them have either their top 2 RBs or 2WRs on the same BYE). I believe in being flexible, but I also believe in having a plan.

Before the draft, I print out a list of the top 200 players with their PPG projections and their ADP. I put everyone into tiers, then find the potential value within those tiers. Then I plan out each pick of my draft - which specific player I want to choose. I run through to the end of the draft, and look at my team. Then I play with different choices (ie Harrison v MJD in the 2nd, Housh v Gates in the 3rd, etc.) to see what route gives me my best team at the end. I plan for what points in the draft I need to have certain positions filled. Then I go into the draft and allow for last second changes based on talent available. But when I deviate, I look to see how quickly I can get back on track - based on picks I might have laid out in the next 2-3 rounds.

In my draft yesterday, I ended up with 9/16 players I targeted before walking into the room.

 

[Spartans Rule]

Why would you "target" anyone? You should let the draft come to you. "Targeting" players is a MAJOR mistake when going into a draft.

I strongly disagree with this statement. Going into a draft with a "let it come to you" attitude can lead to major problems - targeting back-ups too late, over stocking on one position v another, and BYE week hell among them. I watched it happen in my draft yesterday - 3 guys with either 6 RBs or 6 WRs after 12 picks. 4 guys with 2 of their top 4 RBs/WRs with the same BYE week (3 of them have either their top 2 RBs or 2WRs on the same BYE).

"Letting the draft come to you" doesn't mean just taking the best player every time while being ignorant of roster requirements, bye weeks and everything else that's going on. Quite the opposite, actually.What most of us are saying is don't make your judgments beforehand about what players you want, what positions you want in what round, etc. Instead, keep your finger on the pulse of the draft. At every pick, look at what your needs are, who's gone, who's left, where value is about to fall off, what you can put off picking until next round, and so on. Don't miss a chance to catch a falling star or beat a run just because you had targeted someone else.

 

[Limp Dogg Bizkits]

Where did Portis go?

2.10 Could have taken him but there was a run on WR and QB so there were some other quality RB's still available in the 3rd round (I got Benson) and 4 WR's had been taken and I was shocked that SS was there so I took him.

 

[Sid]

Had 4 drafts so far. Have gotten Big Ben in all of them, and Santonio Holmes late in all 4. Also have JP Losman in 3, and LT in 3, but that's just been dumb luck in getting 3 first picks. Vernon Davis in 3.. Romo in 2 or 3..

 

[IanTucker]

Why target anyone, just let the draft come to you.

Couldn't disagree more. Letting ADP and the consensus projections pick your draft will lead to a mediocre team.The idea is to catch the Gores and Colstons (from last year) not pass them by because they are "reaches."Depending on an average number derived from a bunch of average drafters is a mistake. I liked Gore last year and had I not "reached" for him not only would I have been without his points but some other owner would have had him.

 

[flufhed]

If you have players you don't like and players you like and you know about where they are drafted how are you not targeting?

Again, this is the mistake. As Dodds said in his great perfect draft article, "Don't hate or like anyone"

Exactly. You should strive do derive absolutely no pleasure from fantasy football.

 

[flufhed]

If you have players you don't like and players you like and you know about where they are drafted how are you not targeting?

Again, this is the mistake. As Dodds said in his great perfect draft article, "Don't hate or like anyone"

I take it you haven't read Dodds' articles called "From the Gut" where he is very specific about players he thinks should be targeted or avoided this year. This isn't an exact science after all. Ultimately a winning team is one that picks THE CORRECT players, not just the RB1, WR3, etc. that a VBD or DD might suggest for a pick. Targeting is always going to be an important part of building a winning team. The key is to stay unbiased as much as possible, but don't blindly take a player that's projected to score a few more points than a player you've become convinced will have a better year. Go with your gut in those cases. And doing that is targeting.

 

[Spartans Rule]

Why target anyone, just let the draft come to you.

Couldn't disagree more. Letting ADP and the consensus projections pick your draft will lead to a mediocre team.The idea is to catch the Gores and Colstons (from last year) not pass them by because they are "reaches."Depending on an average number derived from a bunch of average drafters is a mistake. I liked Gore last year and had I not "reached" for him not only would I have been without his points but some other owner would have had him.

Again, this isn't what anyone means by "letting the draft come to you". Nobody's advising you to sit back and draft off of ADP and consensus rankings.I took Gore last year too. I didn't "target" him, I just projected him with very good stats and I took him when he was the best value on the board. Maybe that meant that I "reached" for him - don't know, don't care. I just let him come to me when he was the best player.

 

[Stealthycat]

James Jones WR GBP

Kevin Curtis WR PHI

Daniel Owens TE HOU

Schaub QB HOU

Kevin Jones RB DET - his value is so low, its worth a roster spot

QB Beck in Miami longterm