Who are you targetting as your QB2 (1 Viewer)

[3nOut]

These are some the consensus QBs that fall within the 13-24 range in most rankings lists. Who are you targetting and feel most comfortable drafting as your QB 2? And why?

Assume this is a redraft league, standard scoring, and start 1 QB.

 

[j0novision]

It's not on your list, but Matt Ryan. I need at least Matt Ryan as a backup plan, which means my QB1 is going to be Schaub or Romo potentially.

 

[schooner44]

It's not on your list, but Matt Ryan. I need at least Matt Ryan as a backup plan, which means my QB1 is going to be Schaub or Romo potentially.

If Matt Ryan is your back-up plan to Tony Romo, you have your priorities out of whack. Besides the fact that I say Ryan will finish the season ahead of Romo, you'll need to spend a QB1 pick for a backup QB which is not a great idea.For me, Joe Flacco is my choice. What I look for in a QB2 is someone who is kinda young in a stable offense. I don't need someone who's going to light things up but rather need someone I know will be there if needed. I also avoid injury risks like Hasselbeck because there's a good chance he won't be healthy when my starter has a bye.

 

[gandalas]

It's not on your list, but Matt Ryan. I need at least Matt Ryan as a backup plan, which means my QB1 is going to be Schaub or Romo potentially.

If Matt Ryan is your back-up plan to Tony Romo, you have your priorities out of whack. Besides the fact that I say Ryan will finish the season ahead of Romo, you'll need to spend a QB1 pick for a backup QB which is not a great idea.

Wow, I have not heard THAT opinion before this offseason....Of the choices on your list, I like Flacco, Roeth, and Henne the best.

 

[TheLastDispatch]

I'm most likely targeting a Stafford/Roethlisberger QBBC, but could be talked into other combos with some good discussion in here.

 

[Christo]

Carson Palmer

 

[pennystock]

I picked Henne primarily because of his playoff schedule, but to me it really all depends. If I draft a weak #1 because I loaded up on other positions, then I will probably pick a pretty strong #2 (Big Ben or maybe Flacco where there's upside)...but if I end up with what I consider to be a top 5 QB, I'm probably going to wait and target someone weaker that you can get later like Garrard, Campbell or Hasselbeck.

 

[pq9090]

Donovan McNabb unless I take a QB early

 

[zoonation]

I'm most likely targeting a Stafford/Roethlisberger QBBC, but could be talked into other combos with some good discussion in here.

that is crazy IMO.

 

[TheLastDispatch]

I'm most likely targeting a Stafford/Roethlisberger QBBC, but could be talked into other combos with some good discussion in here.

that is crazy IMO.

Elaborate? They can both be had pretty cheap, giving me the option to stock up on talent at other positions first. Stafford is an improving young QB with a ton of new talent around him and one of the most talented WRs in the league. Big Ben's suspension might get reduced to 4 games and reports are he's been looking fantastic thus far.ETA: If it works out, I think it's the kind of move than could win a league. If not, there's sure to be some QBs on the waiver wire when there's only 15 roster spots on each team for 9 starters. Could also trade some of the talent I loaded up on for a QB if need be, but I just can't see the Stafford/Roethlisberger combo not putting up decent points most weeks.

 

[bigmarc27]

I'm most likely targeting a Stafford/Roethlisberger QBBC, but could be talked into other combos with some good discussion in here.

that is crazy IMO.

Elaborate? They can both be had pretty cheap, giving me the option to stock up on talent at other positions first. Stafford is an improving young QB with a ton of new talent around him and one of the most talented WRs in the league. Big Ben's suspension might get reduced to 4 games and reports are he's been looking fantastic thus far.ETA: If it works out, I think it's the kind of move than could win a league. If not, there's sure to be some QBs on the waiver wire when there's only 15 roster spots on each team for 9 starters. Could also trade some of the talent I loaded up on for a QB if need be, but I just can't see the Stafford/Roethlisberger combo not putting up decent points most weeks.

It's crazy because you have to start Stafford at least the first 5 weeks against CHI, MIN, PHI, GB, and STL. You could easily be out of the playoff hunt at that point unless you're expecting Stafford to have a huge leap forward.

 

[Mark Wimer]

Garrard, Flacco in that order, and then if my QB1 isn't one of the top 5 I usually also throw in Freeman at QB3 (depending on league scoring rules and roster sizes).

MW

 

[zoonation]

I'm most likely targeting a Stafford/Roethlisberger QBBC, but could be talked into other combos with some good discussion in here.

that is crazy IMO.

Elaborate? They can both be had pretty cheap, giving me the option to stock up on talent at other positions first. Stafford is an improving young QB with a ton of new talent around him and one of the most talented WRs in the league. Big Ben's suspension might get reduced to 4 games and reports are he's been looking fantastic thus far.ETA: If it works out, I think it's the kind of move than could win a league. If not, there's sure to be some QBs on the waiver wire when there's only 15 roster spots on each team for 9 starters. Could also trade some of the talent I loaded up on for a QB if need be, but I just can't see the Stafford/Roethlisberger combo not putting up decent points most weeks.

It's crazy because you have to start Stafford at least the first 5 weeks against CHI, MIN, PHI, GB, and STL. You could easily be out of the playoff hunt at that point unless you're expecting Stafford to have a huge leap forward.

 

[TheLastDispatch]

I'm most likely targeting a Stafford/Roethlisberger QBBC, but could be talked into other combos with some good discussion in here.

that is crazy IMO.

Elaborate? They can both be had pretty cheap, giving me the option to stock up on talent at other positions first. Stafford is an improving young QB with a ton of new talent around him and one of the most talented WRs in the league. Big Ben's suspension might get reduced to 4 games and reports are he's been looking fantastic thus far.ETA: If it works out, I think it's the kind of move than could win a league. If not, there's sure to be some QBs on the waiver wire when there's only 15 roster spots on each team for 9 starters. Could also trade some of the talent I loaded up on for a QB if need be, but I just can't see the Stafford/Roethlisberger combo not putting up decent points most weeks.

It's crazy because you have to start Stafford at least the first 5 weeks against CHI, MIN, PHI, GB, and STL. You could easily be out of the playoff hunt at that point unless you're expecting Stafford to have a huge leap forward.

Outside of GB, that's the 13, 15, 17, and 25 ranked pass defenses from last year. Not horrible, but not overly intimidating either. Add in the fact that they'll have to pass plenty to put up points (just can't see them pounding the ball through in a grind em out game against all 5 of them, especially since 3 were in the top 10 last year for rush D) and I think you have the recipe for an OK performance. Will it win me my games? Probably not, but with the talent I'm loading up on by not taking a QB in the first rounds, I don't need it to. Besides, for me to be out of the playoff hunt at that point I'd have to have Stafford's performance lose me at least 4 games.ETA: I come to the shark pool to hear opposing ideas on things. If you guys can talk me out of this or show me why I should be scared to start Stafford against those teams, I'm all ears.

 

[bigmarc27]

I'm most likely targeting a Stafford/Roethlisberger QBBC, but could be talked into other combos with some good discussion in here.

that is crazy IMO.

Elaborate? They can both be had pretty cheap, giving me the option to stock up on talent at other positions first. Stafford is an improving young QB with a ton of new talent around him and one of the most talented WRs in the league. Big Ben's suspension might get reduced to 4 games and reports are he's been looking fantastic thus far.ETA: If it works out, I think it's the kind of move than could win a league. If not, there's sure to be some QBs on the waiver wire when there's only 15 roster spots on each team for 9 starters. Could also trade some of the talent I loaded up on for a QB if need be, but I just can't see the Stafford/Roethlisberger combo not putting up decent points most weeks.

It's crazy because you have to start Stafford at least the first 5 weeks against CHI, MIN, PHI, GB, and STL. You could easily be out of the playoff hunt at that point unless you're expecting Stafford to have a huge leap forward.

Outside of GB, that's the 13, 15, 17, and 25 ranked pass defenses from last year. Not horrible, but not overly intimidating either. Add in the fact that they'll have to pass plenty to put up points (just can't see them pounding the ball through in a grind em out game against all 5 of them, especially since 3 were in the top 10 last year for rush D) and I think you have the recipe for an OK performance. Will it win me my games? Probably not, but with the talent I'm loading up on by not taking a QB in the first rounds, I don't need it to.

Stafford finished 25th among QBs last year - the rest of your league will be starting top 10-12 ranked QBs. Why would you force yourself to start a QB3 for over a third of the fantasy season (assuming 14 regular season fantasy games)?If you think Stafford is a top 10 guy this year, then roll with it. He would need to make a pretty huge leap forward (he was over 45 points away from passing Cassell and into the top 20) to make it successful.

 

[TheLastDispatch]

Outside of GB, that's the 13, 15, 17, and 25 ranked pass defenses from last year. Not horrible, but not overly intimidating either. Add in the fact that they'll have to pass plenty to put up points (just can't see them pounding the ball through in a grind em out game against all 5 of them, especially since 3 were in the top 10 last year for rush D) and I think you have the recipe for an OK performance. Will it win me my games? Probably not, but with the talent I'm loading up on by not taking a QB in the first rounds, I don't need it to.

Stafford finished 25th among QBs last year - the rest of your league will be starting top 10-12 ranked QBs. Why would you force yourself to start a QB3 for over a third of the fantasy season (assuming 14 regular season fantasy games)?If you think Stafford is a top 10 guy this year, then roll with it. He would need to make a pretty huge leap forward (he was over 45 points away from passing Cassell and into the top 20) to make it successful.

I definitely do expect a huge leap forward from him. Hell, I'm not the only one. Waldman even has him ranked as QB #12. I don't expect he'll finish the season inside the top 12, but I expect him to be top 15ish. I'd just need ~12 points a week from him to not single handedly lose from a **** poor performance.

 

[Mark Wimer]

I'm most likely targeting a Stafford/Roethlisberger QBBC, but could be talked into other combos with some good discussion in here.

that is crazy IMO.

Elaborate? They can both be had pretty cheap, giving me the option to stock up on talent at other positions first. Stafford is an improving young QB with a ton of new talent around him and one of the most talented WRs in the league. Big Ben's suspension might get reduced to 4 games and reports are he's been looking fantastic thus far.ETA: If it works out, I think it's the kind of move than could win a league. If not, there's sure to be some QBs on the waiver wire when there's only 15 roster spots on each team for 9 starters. Could also trade some of the talent I loaded up on for a QB if need be, but I just can't see the Stafford/Roethlisberger combo not putting up decent points most weeks.

It's crazy because you have to start Stafford at least the first 5 weeks against CHI, MIN, PHI, GB, and STL. You could easily be out of the playoff hunt at that point unless you're expecting Stafford to have a huge leap forward.

Camp buzz is that Stafford is taking a step forward: LINK

Coach Jim Schwartz [on] QB Matthew Stafford’s growth: “He has a better ability to play within the offense. He was there last year, but this year he has more weapons he can go to. He doesn’t have to try and force a ball so much.”

The size of his step forward is the unknown here, granted. But I don't think it's crazy to pit Stafford vs. Chicago (ave pass D (13th yards allowed), with a 28th-place finish in passing TDs allowed last year), MIN (below ave pass D (19th), with a 23rd-ranked finish in passing TDs allowed last year); PHI (a below ave Pass D (17th), with a 24th-place finish in passing TDs allowed last year); GB (5th in passing yards allowed last year, but 28th in passing TDs allowed) and STL (25th in passing yards allowed, but 14th in passing TDs allowed) LINK(S). That lineup of passing defenses doesn't seem particularly daunting to me given last year's finishes. They may improve this season, but none of these squads look like "shut-down" pass defenses to me.

 

[-jb-]

Henne and Smith have solid playoff schedules.

 

[gigantor]

Stafford late

 

[stuckinthemuck]

I'll take Flacco or Henne over Stafford. Stafford just had one of the worst rookie seasons for a quarterback. The Detroit OL still stinks. A step forward for him would be a serviceable QB3, not a 2.

 

[FUBAR]

I'm most likely targeting a Stafford/Roethlisberger QBBC, but could be talked into other combos with some good discussion in here.

that is crazy IMO.

Elaborate? They can both be had pretty cheap, giving me the option to stock up on talent at other positions first. Stafford is an improving young QB with a ton of new talent around him and one of the most talented WRs in the league. Big Ben's suspension might get reduced to 4 games and reports are he's been looking fantastic thus far.ETA: If it works out, I think it's the kind of move than could win a league. If not, there's sure to be some QBs on the waiver wire when there's only 15 roster spots on each team for 9 starters. Could also trade some of the talent I loaded up on for a QB if need be, but I just can't see the Stafford/Roethlisberger combo not putting up decent points most weeks.

It's crazy because you have to start Stafford at least the first 5 weeks against CHI, MIN, PHI, GB, and STL. You could easily be out of the playoff hunt at that point unless you're expecting Stafford to have a huge leap forward.

I'm leaning towards a VY/Ben combo. Not a great first 5 matchups for the Titans, but Oak, Pit, NYG, Den, and Dal should be okay enough considering their ADP I should be strong elsewhere.ETA: I strongly disagree with the notion that someone who drafts Stafford and Ben would be out of the playoff hunt by week 6 assuming he's competent drafting other positions.

 

[TheLastDispatch]

I'll take Flacco or Henne over Stafford. Stafford just had one of the worst rookie seasons for a quarterback. The Detroit OL still stinks. A step forward for him would be a serviceable QB3, not a 2.

Agree on taking Flacco over Stafford, as do most people I think. That's reflected in their ADP, as Flacco is taken about 4 rounds earlier than Stafford.

 

[-jb-]

Vince Young has the best playoff schedule, but I can't bring myself to take him.

 

[chifanpoe]

I just had a 16 Team draft.

Took Matt Ryan in the 6th and Jason Campbell in the 12th.

 

[by_the_sea_wannabe]

Ben if I get one of the top 6 - If not then Flacco

 

[zamboni]

Another vote for Stafford.

I like Ryan and Flacco from NFL perspectives, but we're talking fantasy here. So I look for a guy that will air it out more than mostly hand it off, even it means some dealing with more interceptions. Also I would prefer an offense that is built around the QB, and appears on the rise.

In this realm, I think Stafford takes a big step forward this year with Calvin, Best, a solid #2 WR in Burleson and two good pass catching TEs in Scheffler and Petitgrew. The team probably will still struggle overall as it finds its way, which could result in a lot of shootouts.

FWIW, I already have Brees so am willing to gamble late for the upside.

 

[FUBAR]

Ben if I get one of the top 6 - If not then Flacco

Explain more please. IMO, Ben is the right guy to take if your QB1 will probably be okay for a few weeks but you don't trust him over the season. Out of the top 12, the guys I'd reach slightly to get Ben:Kolb - I think he'll be okay but inconsistent, after Ben's back Kolb probably rides the pine unless he's surpassed my expectations.Cutler - could be boom or bust, but the time Ben's back, we'll know more.McNabb - good enough but I'll start Ben over him after he's back. Schaub - can't shake the thoughts of "injury risk"Aside from those 4, I'll take Ben if the value is there but I'm more likely to walk away with VY or Henne.

 

[Jeremy]

I'd say Roethlisberger, but then I'd have to waste a roster spot on Tebow just so I could sleep at night.

 

[Jayrod]

"I'm most likely targeting a Stafford/Roethlisberger QBBC, but could be talked into other combos with some good discussion in here."that is crazy IMO.

Elaborate? They can both be had pretty cheap, giving me the option to stock up on talent at other positions first. Stafford is an improving young QB with a ton of new talent around him and one of the most talented WRs in the league. Big Ben's suspension might get reduced to 4 games and reports are he's been looking fantastic thus far.ETA: If it works out, I think it's the kind of move than could win a league. If not, there's sure to be some QBs on the waiver wire when there's only 15 roster spots on each team for 9 starters. Could also trade some of the talent I loaded up on for a QB if need be, but I just can't see the Stafford/Roethlisberger combo not putting up decent points most weeks.

It's crazy because you have to start Stafford at least the first 5 weeks against CHI, MIN, PHI, GB, and STL. You could easily be out of the playoff hunt at that point unless you're expecting Stafford to have a huge leap forward.

Outside of GB, that's the 13, 15, 17, and 25 ranked pass defenses from last year. Not horrible, but not overly intimidating either. Add in the fact that they'll have to pass plenty to put up points (just can't see them pounding the ball through in a grind em out game against all 5 of them, especially since 3 were in the top 10 last year for rush D) and I think you have the recipe for an OK performance. Will it win me my games? Probably not, but with the talent I'm loading up on by not taking a QB in the first rounds, I don't need it to.

Stafford finished 25th among QBs last year - the rest of your league will be starting top 10-12 ranked QBs. Why would you force yourself to start a QB3 for over a third of the fantasy season (assuming 14 regular season fantasy games)?If you think Stafford is a top 10 guy this year, then roll with it. He would need to make a pretty huge leap forward (he was over 45 points away from passing Cassell and into the top 20) to make it successful.

You guys are aware that Stafford missed 6 games last year, right? On a PPG basis he was QB21 in my league.Out of the 10 games he started, 4 were poor, 1 was below average, 2 were average, 2 were above average and 1 was spectacular. And that was as a rookie.I'd bet that out of 5 games to start the year, he doesn't have more than 2 bad games and at least one great game. With solid players at every other position and a top 10 QB for the rest of the season, I think that is a heck of a plan, IMO.

 

[kellumsboys]

I'm most likely targeting a Stafford/Roethlisberger QBBC, but could be talked into other combos with some good discussion in here.

that is crazy IMO.

Elaborate? They can both be had pretty cheap, giving me the option to stock up on talent at other positions first. Stafford is an improving young QB with a ton of new talent around him and one of the most talented WRs in the league. Big Ben's suspension might get reduced to 4 games and reports are he's been looking fantastic thus far.ETA: If it works out, I think it's the kind of move than could win a league. If not, there's sure to be some QBs on the waiver wire when there's only 15 roster spots on each team for 9 starters. Could also trade some of the talent I loaded up on for a QB if need be, but I just can't see the Stafford/Roethlisberger combo not putting up decent points most weeks.

It's crazy because you have to start Stafford at least the first 5 weeks against CHI, MIN, PHI, GB, and STL. You could easily be out of the playoff hunt at that point unless you're expecting Stafford to have a huge leap forward.

not so crazy if you pick up Orton for the first 4 weeks to help out.check out their schedule.Jac, Sea, Indy, Ten

 

[Mark Wimer]

Another vote for Stafford.I like Ryan and Flacco from NFL perspectives, but we're talking fantasy here. So I look for a guy that will air it out more than mostly hand it off, even it means some dealing with more interceptions. Also I would prefer an offense that is built around the QB, and appears on the rise.In this realm, I think Stafford takes a big step forward this year with Calvin, Best, a solid #2 WR in Burleson and two good pass catching TEs in Scheffler and Petitgrew. The team probably will still struggle overall as it finds its way, which could result in a lot of shootouts.FWIW, I already have Brees so am willing to gamble late for the upside.

Brees + Stafford = happy fantasy owner IMO. GL

 

[HellToupee]

Sanchez

the Jets are going to throw the ball a lot more than anyone thinks this year

 

[Da Guru]

In Leagues that have minus points for INTS I would stay away from Stafford..if not I would like Stafford as #2.

Stafford will be a 24-20 guy this year.

 

[ookook]

Call me foolish, but I like Leinart is the 2nd or 3rd Qb in my QBBC.

One can get Henne in the 9th (right before folks are backing up QB), Leinart in the 12th and Garrard in the 13th.

I am totally comfortable with something like this.

 

[fsufan]

Eli

 

[AtomicDogg97]

Flacco is a QB1 is every league I have seen.

 

[jbz]

yeah not too many leagues I see where Flacco is QB2 material. I would go with Big Ben or Vince Young. VY was a top 10 QB once he got the starting job.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

to me, Big Ben is a great QB2 if you have a QB with a later bye week.

 

[RushHour]

If I miss out on Stafford, I'd be happy to have Freeman as my QB2 (16 team league)

 

[Routilla]

Wrong poll for Flacco.

 

[the spanker]

Wrong poll for Flacco.

Indeed I'm thinking about taking Flacco as my QB1.

 

[3nOut]

All this Flacco love is really interesting. Noone from the FBG staff has him ranked higher than 12 (two had him AT 12). Who, from the ones not listed here, do you think will drop to the second 12 and not be drafted to be their starter?

 

[two_dollars]

I like Vince Young. Take the last 10 games of last year and string it out to 16 and he's top 10. QB1.

 

[ScottNorwood]

I'm targetting Flacco...........

AS MY QB1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!