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Who are your current top 10 RB (1 Viewer)
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Concept Coop
Footballguy
FosterMcCoyRiceMcFaddenEveryone else and whoever is left in the tier when I pick a RB again.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Why are people discounting Forte? M.Bush?
He is RB #4 right now IMO
He is RB #4 right now IMO
Concept Coop
Footballguy
He will get fewer carries, fewer goal line looks, and fewer targets, in my opinion. His per carry totals will get a solid rise, I think. But I don't think it will make up for the loss of other opportunities.
butcher boy
Footballguy
Foster Arian
Rice Ray
McCoy LeSean
Johnson Chris
Jackson Fred
Lynch Marshawn
Forte Matt
Turner Michael
Bradshaw Ahmad
Richardson Trent
There is literally a 4 point difference between my #4 and #10 back.
Rice Ray
McCoy LeSean
Johnson Chris
Jackson Fred
Lynch Marshawn
Forte Matt
Turner Michael
Bradshaw Ahmad
Richardson Trent
There is literally a 4 point difference between my #4 and #10 back.
Captain Hook
Footballguy
Look back at his previous seasons - the number of touchdowns was never a big part of Forte's total fantasy points - especially in PPR leagues
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Very true, but it's never a good thing when a team has another back for GL touches. I also anticipate him losing carries and receptions, in general.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
What will it take to vault AP back into the Top 10?
Instinctive
Footballguy
He had 0 goal line TDs last year anyway, I believe. So what if he loses goal line carries? He didn't have them to begin with.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Not every depth move means massive loss of production to the incumbent and more talented starter.This was an upgrade (bush) because MB3 and K.Bell were not getting it done once Forte was hurt. They needed a player like himLoving Forte's value right now.
bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
getting of the PUP would be huge & playing in pre-season, although I doubt Minny would do that.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
7 of his 17 touchdowns (41%) over the past 3 seasons have come from the 10 or closer.Currently... Bush has received the vast majority of redzone work.
1 year. It takes time to come back from this type of injury. He'll feel like himself next season unless he tears something else.
Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
For it to be September, 2013
We Tigers
Footballguy
In a few tiers:
Arian Foster
Ray Rice
LeSean McCoy
Darren McFadden
Ryan Mathews
Chris Johnson
Fred Jackson
Marshawn Lynch
Matt Forte
Steven Jackson
If MJD ends his holdout in the next week or so, he'll get dropped in the middle. If Peterson is up and running by draft day, same.
Arian Foster
Ray Rice
LeSean McCoy
Darren McFadden
Ryan Mathews
Chris Johnson
Fred Jackson
Marshawn Lynch
Matt Forte
Steven Jackson
If MJD ends his holdout in the next week or so, he'll get dropped in the middle. If Peterson is up and running by draft day, same.
Instinctive
Footballguy
He only had 3 TDs last year. None were at the goal line. (OOps: he also had a 56 yard rec TD week 1)So 7 TDs out of 14 (50%) in the two previous seasons, when there REALLY wasn't any competition.
I'm going to continue to love his rush yardage, receptions, and rec yardage. He won't be #1 overall RB material because of TDs - but he never has been, and he's a RB1. I'll be hoping against all hope that I can get him at 11.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
He had 12 rushes inside the ten, Barber had 11. I expect that ratio to change. They didn't sign Bush to simply be the backup, he will get touches and TDs. The offense will not rely on Forte as much as it did last year. His numbers will drop.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
Very true. But sometimes they do, and I think Bush cuts into the pie.The fun part is putting your chips down and seeing what happens. So, to be cliche: we'll see.
VaTerp
Footballguy
Arian Foster
LeSean McCoy
Ray Rice
Chris Johnson
Darren McFadden
Matt Forte
DeMarco Murray
Ryan Mathews
Maurice Jones Drew
Steven Jackson
My top 10 as of now. People seem to be focusing on Forte's questions marks at the moment. But there are significant ???s about everyone after the consensus top 3.
LeSean McCoy
Ray Rice
Chris Johnson
Darren McFadden
Matt Forte
DeMarco Murray
Ryan Mathews
Maurice Jones Drew
Steven Jackson
My top 10 as of now. People seem to be focusing on Forte's questions marks at the moment. But there are significant ???s about everyone after the consensus top 3.
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BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
His ceiling has been lowered. I like a shot at the #1 overall RB from my first round RB.
Concept Coop
Footballguy
I agree. I personally add McFadden and call it top 4. He's risky, but he has as much upside as anyone. I can't justify taking any of the others in the first round, in most formats. I don't like any of them that much more than the 1 or 2 that will be around in the 2nd.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
1. Foster
2. McCoy
3. Rice
4. Forte
5. Sjax
6. All Day
7. Dmc
8. Cj2k
9. Fjax
10. Lynch
2. McCoy
3. Rice
4. Forte
5. Sjax
6. All Day
7. Dmc
8. Cj2k
9. Fjax
10. Lynch
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gandalas
Footballguy
As opposed to fictionally?
bulger2holt
Footballguy
I can almost envision Forte with 5 catches / 50 yards each week. There's 10 points already not counting rushing yds or TD's. I am seriously eying him at #7 in a PPR.
Since when is the goal-line out to the 10 yard line?
Forte has scored ZERO TDs from the goal-line (5 yards and in; closest cut-off you could get with the data dominator). So, Bush coming in and taking the goal-line TDs doesn't impact Forte, because he wasn't getting those scores anyway.As for your comment about the 10-yard line, Michael Bush has scored 22 TDs (21 rush, 1 rec) in his career, ONE has come from between 6-10 yards out. I'll say it again, Bush's role in Chicago isn't going to significantly impact Forte's FF #s (which come mainly from yardage, not goal-line TDs).
I'm going to assume you got this from the 8/4 article in the Chicago Tribune, where the reporter takes a quote from Tice about Bush being the "goal-line" back and then the reporter suggests that Bush has gotten most of the "red-zone" work. I would love to see if anyone who has been at Bears TC can confirm that they saw this, because I haven't seen/heard of it anywhere else. I would want to see this reported in more than one place (where it may be a "mis-print" where the reporter says "red-zone" but means goal-line, as Tice was saying), or see it happen during pre-season games before I would drop Forte's yardage numbers.As noted, Forte has scored ZERO TDs the last 2 years from inside the 5 and has been top-10 (PPR scoring) the last two years (obviously PPG scoring, to account for his shortened 2011 season). So if he is going to lose ZERO TDs, how does that downgrade him?
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You mean the McFadden who was on pace for 1750 YFS and 11 TDs last year before he got hurt (as he has EVERY SINGLE SEASON of his pro career)? Those numbers would have made him RB5 (non-PPR). I agree, he has a lot of upside, IF (huge IF) he can stay healthy for the whole season.BTW-Forte was on pace for just under 2000 YFS and 5 TDs before he got hurt (which is the first time he has missed any games in his NFL career), which would also have ranked him as RB5 last year.'Concept Coop said:
Seems to me their ceilings are pretty similar, but Forte's the much safer pick in the early rounds, as your RB1.
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Ghost of Bill Walsh
Footballguy
Foster
Rice
McCoy
Forte
Chris Johnson
McFadden
DeMarco Murray
Marshawn Lynch
Fred Jackson
Trent Richardson
Rice
McCoy
Forte
Chris Johnson
McFadden
DeMarco Murray
Marshawn Lynch
Fred Jackson
Trent Richardson
Multiple Scores
Footballguy
Foster
Rice
McCoy
Forte
CJ1k
Fred Jackson
Bradshaw
Charles
MJD
Richardson
No Dmac or Mathews because I don't believe they can be injury free, No Lynch because I think a 4-6 game suspension. If these things don't happen I see them top 10.
Rice
McCoy
Forte
CJ1k
Fred Jackson
Bradshaw
Charles
MJD
Richardson
No Dmac or Mathews because I don't believe they can be injury free, No Lynch because I think a 4-6 game suspension. If these things don't happen I see them top 10.
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
And yet you have Richardson in your top 10 even though he's having his 2nd knee surgery in 6 months? I understand the allure of Richardson's talent and the situation, but I think the O-line on the right is still an issue, the defense will put them into situations requiring more passing, the knee is obviously a concern, and even though te learning curve for RBs is less than other positions he's still an unproven rookie.The truth probably is that there's just so many question marks on so many RBs, and yet so much talent, that there's easily around 10 RBs after the top tier that could all finish in just about any order.
chachmaster
Footballguy
I can't see a big difference between Rice and McCoy as the #2RB in PPR leagues. See its pretty much split 50/50 here. Just preference or does anyone have some logic behind putting McCoy ahead of Rice?
IMO Rice is consistent, can run and catch and is the focus of the BALT offense so hard to pass up on him.
IMO Rice is consistent, can run and catch and is the focus of the BALT offense so hard to pass up on him.
