Who else is pulling the plug on Mark Ingram? (1 Viewer)

[Raiderfan32904]

This thread is not to bash on Mark Ingram. We've all had our rants about his disappointing season. Just wanted to know if this week's 2nd straight downgrade to out was the final straw? It was for me. I cut him loose in both leagues for fliers I have no short term plans in starting. Just can't see holding him as a wasted roster spot. I'm not afraid of someone picking him up. What's the upside of him over the FF playoff run?

I had such high hopes that Ingram would be the key cog to my season. Now he's dead to me. My fault. Time to move on, I guess. I really like his talent, but he's miscast in that Saints offense, and I wish him the best to find his niche, but for redraft, I think you can stick a fork in him.

Who else has cut bait?

 

[mcd]

This thread is not to bash on Mark Ingram. We've all had our rants about his disappointing season. Just wanted to know if this week's 2nd straight downgrade to out was the final straw? It was for me. I cut him loose in both leagues for fliers I have no short term plans in starting. Just can't see holding him as a wasted roster spot. I'm not afraid of someone picking him up. What's the upside of him over the FF playoff run? I had such high hopes that Ingram would be the key cog to my season. Now he's dead to me. My fault. Time to move on, I guess. I really like his talent, but he's miscast in that Saints offense, and I wish him the best to find his niche, but for redraft, I think you can stick a fork in him.Who else has cut bait?

It's a long season & he still has more upside than anyone else on the waiver wire in my league. I've got no reason to dump him, especially when I still have Deangelo Williams sitting below him. What a train wreck of starting RBs I drafted.

 

[hines]

the upside is still much higher than any flier you can get on waivers and we don't know enough about the injury to cut him loose unless it is a 10 team league with short benches. A goal-line back getting 15 carries on the Saints is always worth holding in my mind

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Is there any reason this couldn't be placed in the bazillion page Ingram HoF thread? Many folks have already been talking about this very issue. I understand firing up a new thread when there's an injury/trade/etc. You know, something brand new that is worthy of calling attention to it. But this isn't that. I often get annoyed at others playing board police but here I am doing it. Just seems we can do a better job of cleaning this place up.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

week 16 is gonna be the week!

 

[Nugget]

Is there any reason this couldn't be placed in the bazillion page Ingram HoF thread? Many folks have already been talking about this very issue. I understand firing up a new thread when there's an injury/trade/etc. You know, something brand new that is worthy of calling attention to it. But this isn't that. I often get annoyed at others playing board police but here I am doing it. Just seems we can do a better job of cleaning this place up.

I'm OK with this thread - I haven't clicked on the HoF thread because the pae count overwhelms me. I'm holding as there is little on the waiver wire with more upside.

 

[cobalt_27]

Is there any reason this couldn't be placed in the bazillion page Ingram HoF thread? Many folks have already been talking about this very issue. I understand firing up a new thread when there's an injury/trade/etc. You know, something brand new that is worthy of calling attention to it. But this isn't that. I often get annoyed at others playing board police but here I am doing it. Just seems we can do a better job of cleaning this place up.

I'm OK with this thread - I haven't clicked on the HoF thread because the pae count overwhelms me.

Not to mention the fact that moderated and a few other guys have used that thread to work on their fishing shtick. Worst thread going.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Alright then carry on. I'm not sure how you can cut bait unless you're in a shallow league. The potential for big points is there in the NO backfield. I'd trade him before cutting.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

That other thread was like a civil war debating stong personal feelings between the pro-Ingrams and pro-Richardson/anti-Ingram crowd. Lots of hijacking.

I have nothing against Ingram. It's not his fault I chose him. I'm interested in hearing opinions of others regarding what they are doing with Ingram. I think it's borderline to dump Ingram (depends on the options). But before this week, I was never seriously considering it. I don't want this to be a venting thread, rather a strategic thread. Some think he still has viable upside. That's a fair opinion too. I'm not fishing for "he sucks" opinions. I just think his value in redraft is an interesting topic to discuss at this point in the season and considering his recent injury.

 

[Breesisdaman]

waiting to pounce on waivers the minute he is dropped.

 

[NorrisB]

he's a turd, you have to have a really bad team to be depending on this schmuck he was getting an average of 3 carries a quarter and couldnt handle that heavy of a load, maybe they'll cut him down to 1 carry a quarter, or 1 carry a game with Jed Collins getting the goal line work.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

waiting to pounce on waivers the minute he is dropped.

Interesting, coming from a Saints homer. What do you see as his upside?

 

[phillybirds]

IMO, the time to pull the plug on this guy was several weeks ago in order to go in another direction. Not much out there right now at the moment.

 

[kegger]

Dumped and gone here, good riddance..

If you can't find something more worthy of a roster spot,

at least in redraft then yur done as well. (to many RB's in NO)

 

[Breesisdaman]

waiting to pounce on waivers the minute he is dropped.

Interesting, coming from a Saints homer. What do you see as his upside?

The problem with the Saints running game has been the offensive line. Strief is back and that will help things. Also with exception of the Indy game the Saints have been playing from behind too much and have really needed to throw the ball. Sproles production comes from this. I think much of the blame can also be placed on the Saints defense for this. I think they will become a bit better after this Rams debacle. Call it a hunch for now and if you have decent options out there by all means drop him. My league has DWill on the wire and I would probably pick him up before Ingram but its close. Ingram hasnt been dropped.

 

[astew90]

he's a turd, you have to have a really bad team to be depending on this schmuck he was getting an average of 3 carries a quarter and couldnt handle that heavy of a load, maybe they'll cut him down to 1 carry a quarter, or 1 carry a game with Jed Collins getting the goal line work.

I started him at RB3 every week until he got hurt, went 6-0-1 in those 7 games. I'm not saying that Ingram is great, but your comment is just wrong. Ingram had a defined role on a high-scoring offense and he was good for around 5-10 points a week when he was healthy. Consistent points are pretty damn valuable in the flex spot.As far as cutting him now, can't bring myself to do it because I think he'll be at least that good again by the time fantasy playoffs start. But I do understand how pulling the plug might make sense for a team that needs wins now.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I do understand how pulling the plug might make sense for a team that needs wins now.

That's where I am now. 4-4 and middle of the pack. I need to make up ground quick or be an also ran. I think that fantasy record has a lot to do with the pressure to cut Ingram loose.

 

[mjr]

Traded him for A.Boldin 2 weeks ago.

 

[Diamond One]

For what it's worth, I'm personally holding for a while with the mindset that he may (repeat, MAY) become a valuable option for the final weeks of the fantasy regular season and post-season. With that said though, I'm 7-1 in the league I own him in and stacked with other quality RB options, so...

I think if I was in the hunt to try to secure a fantasy post-season spot, I would indeed cut him loose and look for other options. It really depends on each league scoring system combined with what is actually available on the wire. Gotta believe for most that there are slim pickings out there, so it's probably worth holding him for now unless a trade is an option...

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

Traded him for A.Boldin 2 weeks ago.

Nicely done. He just fell to waivers in one of my leagues. I don't plan to make a move for him, but I'm guessing someone will.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Traded him for A.Boldin 2 weeks ago.

Nicely done. He just fell to waivers in one of my leagues. I don't plan to make a move for him, but I'm guessing someone will.

cutting his for who? don't be so emotional. ingram is just the kind of bak (with a nice soft schedule) who can pay dividends down the road (even moreso if other backs get injured)

 

[moderated]

he's a turd, you have to have a really bad team to be depending on this schmuck he was getting an average of 3 carries a quarter and couldnt handle that heavy of a load, maybe they'll cut him down to 1 carry a quarter, or 1 carry a game with Jed Collins getting the goal line work.

The plug should have never been inserted in the first place, guys a bum.

 

[flapgreen]

Cut the turd weeks ago. Hate that i wasted a pick on him.

 

[flapgreen]

Traded him for A.Boldin 2 weeks ago.

Nicely done. He just fell to waivers in one of my leagues. I don't plan to make a move for him, but I'm guessing someone will.

cutting his for who? don't be so emotional. ingram is just the kind of bak (with a nice soft schedule) who can pay dividends down the road (even moreso if other backs get injured)

 

[shuke]

We already have an Ingram thread. Why start another one just to justify to yourself that you cut him?

 

[bonesman]

I cut him in a 10 team league last week.

In another 12 teamer where I drafted him in the 4th I was able to trade him for DeAngelo and then somehow traded DeAngelo for Mendenhall... so I've pretty much washed my hands of Ingram for this year.

Even when he gets back he'll probably be splitting 4 ways now (five if you count that stupid FB). No Thanks.

 

[Diamond One]

We already have an Ingram thread. Why start another one just to justify to yourself that you cut him?

Probably just to piss you off. Seriously, no disrepect intended here, but I always get a kick out of responses like this. It's a legit and pressing question about Ingram as the season progress that many people have. I don't seem to recall Tim Tebow's recent crappy performance in the John Elway threads - just relax.

 

[fightingillini]

Not going to cut him since I have deep rosters where I own him, but I highly doubt that I would play him. He's just an emergency play for the rest of the season, unless Sproles or P Thomas gets hurt.

 

[Sabertooth]

I pulled the plug 3 weeks ago. People in my league couldn't believe I'd just cut Ingram or Santonio Holmes. But names don't mean squat. He's obviously in a quagmire at best there.

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

And the trolls migrate to this thread anyway...

 

[packersfan]

I suppose in shallow leagues and guys like Murray, Jacobs or Battle are available I could see dropping Ingram. My league has tight roster limits but the best RBs on the WW are guys like Kevin Faulk, Ryan Grant and Moreno. No way I'm dropping Ingram for any of them. He's been a Top 30 RB when healthy, he's talented and leads an explosive offense in carries and Red Zone snaps among the RBs and his role does not appear to be in any danger. He's trustworthy as a RB3 if you need to start him and he could be the type of lottery ticket that wins fantasy leagues if his role were to grow in the second half of the season. We need to see how much longer the heel injury keeps him out (could be through their Week 11 bye) but I think Ingram is an ideal Buy Low candidate from a disgruntled owner. And based on the posts in this forum about Ingram, you should be able to get him for pennies on the dollar. I'd be buying Ingram right now, not dumping.

 

[gandalas]

I have been getting trade offers like crazy for Ingram the past few weeks, but pretty much all of them are low-ball. I think the only option is to hold and see if he can pull a McFadden or Rice for his 2nd or 3rd season. Sometimes RBs take a few years to develop - don't give up on him too soon!

 

[Reepicheep]

I cut him for OB1 in my 10-team. He was a great flex guy for me during the bye weeks. I am going to need some more help weeks 10-11 and OB1 seems more likely to be helpful there than Ingram. I'll probably pick him back up after that if he's healthy, I doubt anyone jumps on him in the meantime.

 

[gandalas]

I cut him for OB1 in my 10-team. He was a great flex guy for me during the bye weeks. I am going to need some more help weeks 10-11 and OB1 seems more likely to be helpful there than Ingram. I'll probably pick him back up after that if he's healthy, I doubt anyone jumps on him in the meantime.

OB1? I have no idea who this is, literally. Searched google and got nothing.

 

[badfish650]

Just gave him up for CJ2K. We'll see.

 

[yrforyg]

Just cut him for Javon Ringer with confidence in a 10 team league

 

[Reepicheep]

I cut him for OB1 in my 10-team. He was a great flex guy for me during the bye weeks. I am going to need some more help weeks 10-11 and OB1 seems more likely to be helpful there than Ingram. I'll probably pick him back up after that if he's healthy, I doubt anyone jumps on him in the meantime.

OB1? I have no idea who this is, literally. Searched google and got nothing.

Ogbonnaya

 

[playin4beer]

Cut him in two leagues for ogbonnaya.

 

[kimbosliced]

He was just dropped in my league. I don't think I'll pick him up either.

 

[Joe Summer]

the upside is still much higher than any flier you can get on waivers

I think I'd rather take a flyer on a backup that has potential to be a clear-cut #1, instead of an injured starter stuck in permanent RBBC.

 

[notdarkyet]

Just gave him up for CJ2K. We'll see.

Heh, I just offered him up for CJ, thought it might have been insulting.

 

[Hairy Snowman]

Im holding. I still like him for my RB3 after the bye. But my league is a deep redraft.

I really dont get the hatred though. If you knew what you drafted and had your perspective on what it was, you wouldnt be so disappointed. He has performed around where I thought, although I expected a few more GL touches. But yards are right about where I expected.

 

[Joe Summer]

I really dont get the hatred though. If you knew what you drafted and had your perspective on what it was, you wouldnt be so disappointed. He has performed around where I thought, although I expected a few more GL touches. But yards are right about where I expected.

Then you were much better at projecting his stats than the experts were. Ingram is on pace for 738 yards, 7 TDs, and 122 fantasy points; most of the experts were projecting him in the 850-1000 range, with 7-9 TDs and 160+ fantasy points.

 

[Hairy Snowman]

I really dont get the hatred though. If you knew what you drafted and had your perspective on what it was, you wouldnt be so disappointed. He has performed around where I thought, although I expected a few more GL touches. But yards are right about where I expected.

Then you were much better at projecting his stats than the experts were. Ingram is on pace for 738 yards, 7 TDs, and 122 fantasy points; most of the experts were projecting him in the 850-1000 range, with 7-9 TDs and 160+ fantasy points.

Minus the injury and his yards are in that range - about 800-850. I thought of him as a GL back who would get 6-8 TDs on the low side, 10-12 on the upside. Personally, I wish he had gotten a few more GL carries, but he is in the general ballpark. I think many people may have hyped him a little higher than I would have. Reminded me a little of Ron Dayne, only with better feet. There was a reason he was splitting carries with Richardson after winning a Heisman (besides Richardson being a beast).

Now, if you ask me about the Alabama O-Line, I will tell you there are some very special players there. . . . but you will see that tonight.

 

[urbanhack]

For what it's worth, I'm personally holding for a while with the mindset that he may (repeat, MAY) become a valuable option for the final weeks of the fantasy regular season and post-season. With that said though, I'm 7-1 in the league I own him in and stacked with other quality RB options, so... I think if I was in the hunt to try to secure a fantasy post-season spot, I would indeed cut him loose and look for other options. It really depends on each league scoring system combined with what is actually available on the wire. Gotta believe for most that there are slim pickings out there, so it's probably worth holding him for now unless a trade is an option...

 

[flapgreen]

For what it's worth, I'm personally holding for a while with the mindset that he may (repeat, MAY) become a valuable option for the final weeks of the fantasy regular season and post-season. With that said though, I'm 7-1 in the league I own him in and stacked with other quality RB options, so... I think if I was in the hunt to try to secure a fantasy post-season spot, I would indeed cut him loose and look for other options. It really depends on each league scoring system combined with what is actually available on the wire. Gotta believe for most that there are slim pickings out there, so it's probably worth holding him for now unless a trade is an option...

Big mistake.

 

[urbanhack]

For what it's worth, I'm personally holding for a while with the mindset that he may (repeat, MAY) become a valuable option for the final weeks of the fantasy regular season and post-season. With that said though, I'm 7-1 in the league I own him in and stacked with other quality RB options, so... I think if I was in the hunt to try to secure a fantasy post-season spot, I would indeed cut him loose and look for other options. It really depends on each league scoring system combined with what is actually available on the wire. Gotta believe for most that there are slim pickings out there, so it's probably worth holding him for now unless a trade is an option...

Big mistake.

I'm 8-0 and 7-1 and own Ingram in both. I'm holding. Strange things happen the last few weeks of the season. Sure i'll drop him if I'm forced to because of roster injury reasons or something drastic happens to him.

 

[flapgreen]

Proceed with caution.

 

[verratti]

cut him in 2 different 12 team leagues for Javon Ringer...

 

[moderated]

For what it's worth, I'm personally holding for a while with the mindset that he may (repeat, MAY) become a valuable option for the final weeks of the fantasy regular season and post-season. With that said though, I'm 7-1 in the league I own him in and stacked with other quality RB options, so... I think if I was in the hunt to try to secure a fantasy post-season spot, I would indeed cut him loose and look for other options. It really depends on each league scoring system combined with what is actually available on the wire. Gotta believe for most that there are slim pickings out there, so it's probably worth holding him for now unless a trade is an option...

Big mistake.