Who gameplans and calls the plays in New England? (1 Viewer)

[GroveDiesel]

Do any Patriot fans or anyone else know who is gameplanning and calling plays in New England? Is BB doing most of the work? Does Brady call a lot of his plays? How involved is the OC Daniels?

 

[Phlash]

Do any Patriot fans or anyone else know who is gameplanning and calling plays in New England? Is BB doing most of the work? Does Brady call a lot of his plays? How involved is the OC Daniels?

Daniels is absolutely the playcaller. He's been learning the OC position for a couple seasons and BB has finally handed the reigns over to him completely. Of course, BB and him both work together coming up with an offensive gameplan, in the same fashion that BB and Dean Pees work together fashioning a defensive gameplan.

 

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David Yudkin is the primary play caller in Foxborough.

 

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Apparently it was Phil Fulmer yesterday. Way too many unimaginative runs up the middle when it was clear it wasn't working.

 

[gianmarco]

Apparently it was Phil Fulmer yesterday. Way too many unimaginative runs up the middle when it was clear it wasn't working.

Exactly. Those draws for Maroney were just painful to watch and they kept doing it over and over. The way to run on Indy is to get to the outside and get their defenders to overpursue. They are a quick defense but sometimes take really bad angles. But, as was seen last year, you can't really run up the middle on them. Chicago tried and failed miserably in the SB. I also don't know why they didn't open up the passing game earlier on in the game. It's what has been so successful so far this year and it wasn't until they did this in the 4th qtr that they started moving the ball. Brady had a Delhomme/Smith type lock on Moss at the end of the game and it worked. Almost waited too long to bring that out.

 

[GroveDiesel]

Do any Patriot fans or anyone else know who is gameplanning and calling plays in New England? Is BB doing most of the work? Does Brady call a lot of his plays? How involved is the OC Daniels?

Daniels is absolutely the playcaller. He's been learning the OC position for a couple seasons and BB has finally handed the reigns over to him completely. Of course, BB and him both work together coming up with an offensive gameplan, in the same fashion that BB and Dean Pees work together fashioning a defensive gameplan.

Is there any talk about what Daniels's future is? He's pretty young and doesn't have a ton of experience. And Weiss's lack of success at ND after being dubbed an offensive genius may weight into his future I would think. But I'm just curious if there's any talk about his future with the Pats and any potential to move to a head coaching job eventually.(I'm just curious because I grew up near him and know a guy that could end up with an NFL coaching job if Daniels ever became a head coach).

 

[GroveDiesel]

Apparently it was Phil Fulmer yesterday. Way too many unimaginative runs up the middle when it was clear it wasn't working.

I'll have to disagree with you here. The runs up the middle were pretty successful most of the time. Here are the runs that went up the middle (includes both Faulk and Maroney)34947053855136931The last 2 runs were when the Patriots were grinding out the clock at the end of the game. That's good for 4.56 yards per carry. If you subtract out the last 2 runs when it was clear that they were going to run to force Indy to use its timeouts, the average jumps to 4.9 yards per carry.

 

[PMENFAN]

Apparently it was Phil Fulmer yesterday. Way too many unimaginative runs up the middle when it was clear it wasn't working.

Exactly. Those draws for Maroney were just painful to watch and they kept doing it over and over. The way to run on Indy is to get to the outside and get their defenders to overpursue. They are a quick defense but sometimes take really bad angles. But, as was seen last year, you can't really run up the middle on them. Chicago tried and failed miserably in the SB. I also don't know why they didn't open up the passing game earlier on in the game. It's what has been so successful so far this year and it wasn't until they did this in the 4th qtr that they started moving the ball. Brady had a Delhomme/Smith type lock on Moss at the end of the game and it worked. Almost waited too long to bring that out.

Come on. You never abandon the run. These draws serve the purpose of slowing down the rush over the coarse of the game. They have to stay at home to protect against the draw, because you know they're going to run it. they did open the passing game early, when it was there. Remember Brady's pick came on a long pass at the end of the 1st half. NE played it close to the vest to keep Indy w/o scores. Take away the two long PI penaties, neither of which should have been called, and this is a different game. Obviously the play calling strategy worked, as they were able to show new looks late that got them 2 late TD's and the win. I don't evaluate individual play calls during the game, but the overall strategy. I felt this was adequate. Can you look back w/ 20/20 vision and find plays that would have worked better? Probably, but those employed worked.

 

[encaitar]

Apparently it was Phil Fulmer yesterday. Way too many unimaginative runs up the middle when it was clear it wasn't working.

Exactly. Those draws for Maroney were just painful to watch and they kept doing it over and over. The way to run on Indy is to get to the outside and get their defenders to overpursue. They are a quick defense but sometimes take really bad angles. But, as was seen last year, you can't really run up the middle on them. Chicago tried and failed miserably in the SB. I also don't know why they didn't open up the passing game earlier on in the game. It's what has been so successful so far this year and it wasn't until they did this in the 4th qtr that they started moving the ball. Brady had a Delhomme/Smith type lock on Moss at the end of the game and it worked. Almost waited too long to bring that out.

Come on. You never abandon the run. These draws serve the purpose of slowing down the rush over the coarse of the game. They have to stay at home to protect against the draw, because you know they're going to run it. they did open the passing game early, when it was there. Remember Brady's pick came on a long pass at the end of the 1st half. NE played it close to the vest to keep Indy w/o scores. Take away the two long PI penaties, neither of which should have been called, and this is a different game. Obviously the play calling strategy worked, as they were able to show new looks late that got them 2 late TD's and the win. I don't evaluate individual play calls during the game, but the overall strategy. I felt this was adequate. Can you look back w/ 20/20 vision and find plays that would have worked better? Probably, but those employed worked.

It's not like the Patriots weren't taking any downfield shots early on, because they tried. Indy just held the downfield routes in check early on. The short routes were working, so they stayed with them. The running game, from what I saw, seemed to be working quite well too. They were moving the ball fairly consistently against Indy and only didn't score because of miscues/good defensive play. They would've led at the half without a few questionable calls.I think the lack of huge offensive production is more a testament to Indy's defense than to poor playcalling. Just because they didn't score 50 points in the first half doesn't mean they didn't try. Give the other team it's due.