Pro Football Hall of Fame???I'd give it to Moss
This would not surprise me at all. I believe Harrison and Manning did the same thing with a ball at one point..It's simple.... CUT THE BALL IN TWO!!!
I did not know that.This would not surprise me at all. I believe Harrison and Manning did the same thing with a ball at one point..It's simple.... CUT THE BALL IN TWO!!!
Yes, we all know how well QBs do without WRs. Canton until a year or two from now when Eli Manning breaks the record.Kevin Ashcraft said:I would say Brady.....WR has to have a QB to throw him the ball
Joe Bryant said:Dunno. I think Brady's record is much bigger as he doesn't have the asterisk for games that the Moss record has.J
I don't quite get what you're trying to implicinate here.If Moss gets to keep the ball, then the real answer is somebody on E-Bay in about 10 years.
Using Newman logic:Only the real owner of the ball would rather see someone else have it, rather than have it cut in half. The ball is Brady's.Brady and Moss both discussed it in their press conferences. Brady said Randy offered it up to him and suggested they cut it in two; Tom said he hadn't thought about it much yet but since Randy grabbed the ball, it was his. Brady went on to say that he has the jersey and lots of memories of the record. Moss at his presser reiterated that he would prefer to split the ball.
QBs have to have a WR catch them the ball.Kevin Ashcraft said:I would say Brady.....WR has to have a QB to throw him the ball
Using Newman logic:Only the real owner of the ball would rather see someone else have it, rather than have it cut in half. The ball is Brady's.Brady and Moss both discussed it in their press conferences. Brady said Randy offered it up to him and suggested they cut it in two; Tom said he hadn't thought about it much yet but since Randy grabbed the ball, it was his. Brady went on to say that he has the jersey and lots of memories of the record. Moss at his presser reiterated that he would prefer to split the ball.
Joe Bryant said:Dunno. I think Brady's record is much bigger as he doesn't have the asterisk for games that the Moss record has.J![]()
i was thinking the same thing. mount half the ball on a plaque of some kind.It's simple.... CUT THE BALL IN TWO!!!
Oakland & New England?Do we think it is coincidence that Moss has been on the top 2 scoring teams in NFL history? He is the MVP there. He gets the ball.
He was also one of the worst offenses ever, the '06 Raiders. Funny how that works.Do we think it is coincidence that Moss has been on the top 2 scoring teams in NFL history? He is the MVP there. He gets the ball.
this is not ENTIRELY trueQBs have to have a WR catch them the ball.I would say Brady.....WR has to have a QB to throw him the ball
[Tomlinson]Well, it's not ENTIRELY true that WRs need QBs either.[/Tomlinson]this is not ENTIRELY trueQBs have to have a WR catch them the ball.I would say Brady.....WR has to have a QB to throw him the ball![]()
exactly[Tomlinson]Well, it's not ENTIRELY true that WRs need QBs either.[/Tomlinson]this is not ENTIRELY trueQBs have to have a WR catch them the ball.I would say Brady.....WR has to have a QB to throw him the ball![]()
[Patriots O-line]Maybe they should cut it into 11 pieces and share it ...[/Patriots O-line][Tomlinson]Well, it's not ENTIRELY true that WRs need QBs either.[/Tomlinson]this is not ENTIRELY trueQBs have to have a WR catch them the ball.I would say Brady.....WR has to have a QB to throw him the ball![]()
cut both balls in half, and then stitch a half from each one together!Brady was asked this question on a radio interview this morning.They just came to an agreement, Brady got the 49/22 ball, Moss got the 50/23 ball.
That is not exactly like a bold statement or anything.I still believe without Moss there, Brady does not get this record this year. I know there will be some here that will same the same thing about Moss and the record.
Brady was winning without Moss. This record came about because of Moss.I was reading on Patriots.com that Moss wasn't the first option on the play.That is not exactly like a bold statement or anything.I still believe without Moss there, Brady does not get this record this year. I know there will be some here that will same the same thing about Moss and the record.
Yes, we all know how well QBs do without WRs. Canton until a year or two from now when Eli Manning breaks the record.I would say Brady.....WR has to have a QB to throw him the ball
Yes. Duh. Find me someone who thinks Brady would have 50 TDs throwing just to Welker, Stallworth, Gaffney, etc.nerangers said:Brady was winning without Moss. This record came about because of Moss.Chicago Hooligan said:That is not exactly like a bold statement or anything.I still believe without Moss there, Brady does not get this record this year. I know there will be some here that will same the same thing about Moss and the record.
I would think Moss, because without Moss Brady is not that great of a QB....BTW, I'm not fishing, it's true. Look at the TDs by Brady during the time he didn't have Moss... heck most of Moss' TDs were lob balls by Brady that Moss went and got...Dunno. I think Brady's record is much bigger as he doesn't have the asterisk for games that the Moss record has.J
Good QBs don't.. Steve Young threw a pass to himselfthis is not ENTIRELY trueQBs have to have a WR catch them the ball.I would say Brady.....WR has to have a QB to throw him the ball![]()
If that's not fishing I don't know what is.I would think Moss, because without Moss Brady is not that great of a QB....BTW, I'm not fishing, it's true. Look at the TDs by Brady during the time he didn't have Moss... heck most of Moss' TDs were lob balls by Brady that Moss went and got...Dunno. I think Brady's record is much bigger as he doesn't have the asterisk for games that the Moss record has.
J
And didn't Brad Johnson throw a TD to himself?Good QBs don't.. Steve Young threw a pass to himself![]()
Wait..... Are you saying that Moss was actually hustling on a play not designed for him? Uncanny. Are you seeing this Jaworski?nerangers said:Brady was winning without Moss. This record came about because of Moss.I was reading on Patriots.com that Moss wasn't the first option on the play.Chicago Hooligan said:That is not exactly like a bold statement or anything.I still believe without Moss there, Brady does not get this record this year. I know there will be some here that will same the same thing about Moss and the record.
WR Randy Moss, QB Tom Brady, and head coach Bill Belichick describe the play that changed the game against the Giants Saturday night: Brady's 65-yard TD toss to Moss, which was originally supposed to be a much shorter pass to WR Wes Welker. On TD number 50, Moss was actually option number 2
That happens all the time, - as option #2, he still has great shot to catch a pass. The shocking thing has been seeing him block.And to be fair, when Jaws or others have mentioned Moss taking a play off, Moss was .... taking a play off.Wait..... Are you saying that Moss was actually hustling on a play not designed for him? Uncanny. Are you seeing this Jaworski?nerangers said:Brady was winning without Moss. This record came about because of Moss.I was reading on Patriots.com that Moss wasn't the first option on the play.Chicago Hooligan said:That is not exactly like a bold statement or anything.I still believe without Moss there, Brady does not get this record this year. I know there will be some here that will same the same thing about Moss and the record.
WR Randy Moss, QB Tom Brady, and head coach Bill Belichick describe the play that changed the game against the Giants Saturday night: Brady's 65-yard TD toss to Moss, which was originally supposed to be a much shorter pass to WR Wes Welker. On TD number 50, Moss was actually option number 2
I was being sarcastic. I know Moss usually plays to his full potential. I'm a Vikings fan and thought he got an unfair rep for taking plays off back then. He's not a great blocker, but he does usually try.And yes, he occassionally lolligags on a play or two, but he usually plays 95% of the offensive snaps(unlike any other receiver in the game) and runs deep routes on each one.That happens all the time, - as option #2, he still has great shot to catch a pass. The shocking thing has been seeing him block.And to be fair, when Jaws or others have mentioned Moss taking a play off, Moss was .... taking a play off.Wait..... Are you saying that Moss was actually hustling on a play not designed for him? Uncanny. Are you seeing this Jaworski?nerangers said:Brady was winning without Moss. This record came about because of Moss.I was reading on Patriots.com that Moss wasn't the first option on the play.Chicago Hooligan said:That is not exactly like a bold statement or anything.I still believe without Moss there, Brady does not get this record this year. I know there will be some here that will same the same thing about Moss and the record.
WR Randy Moss, QB Tom Brady, and head coach Bill Belichick describe the play that changed the game against the Giants Saturday night: Brady's 65-yard TD toss to Moss, which was originally supposed to be a much shorter pass to WR Wes Welker. On TD number 50, Moss was actually option number 2
But Brady makes WRs look better than they are.Moss, he makes QB's look better than they are...
I would think Moss, because without Moss Brady is not that great of a QB....BTW, I'm not fishing, it's true. Look at the TDs by Brady during the time he didn't have Moss... heck most of Moss' TDs were lob balls by Brady that Moss went and got...Dunno. I think Brady's record is much bigger as he doesn't have the asterisk for games that the Moss record has.J
Switz should not be listened to with any level of objectivity on any subject relating to the Patriots. This is not new.I would think Moss, because without Moss Brady is not that great of a QB....BTW, I'm not fishing, it's true. Look at the TDs by Brady during the time he didn't have Moss... heck most of Moss' TDs were lob balls by Brady that Moss went and got...Dunno. I think Brady's record is much bigger as he doesn't have the asterisk for games that the Moss record has.JIs this your first year watching football?
I caught Brady's and Belichick's interview on EEI and both were asked about this play. The play technically had Welker as the #1, but it sounded like it was called for Moss. The NFL Network didn't show it, but Sam Madison game up a little gimpy on the previous play when Moss couldn't come up with the catch. They called a play with a deep route to Moss partially for this reason. Also, when the play actually began, Madison came off Moss to double Welker (this is called "peeling off" I believe) as Welker had a shorter route more designed to just get the first down. This might have been the smart play for Madison, but it's likely that the fact he had just gotten knicked up a bit/ran a deep route factored into his decision to peel off and leave Moss open.So this play is designed to have Welker as the #1 read, but in this situation, at least according to Brady, he was looking to Moss.nerangers said:WR Randy Moss, QB Tom Brady, and head coach Bill Belichick describe the play that changed the game against the Giants Saturday night: Brady's 65-yard TD toss to Moss, which was originally supposed to be a much shorter pass to WR Wes Welker. On TD number 50, Moss was actually option number 2