Who got my antique pottery thread deleted?! (1 Viewer)

[Rohn Jambo]

What happened to my antique pottery thread?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

 

[joffer]

It happens

 

[Mr. Retukes]

You should know better than to bring up the subject of pottery on a fantasy football message board.

 

[East Coast Bias]

You can use my Official WNBA thread if you want. It didn't get much action.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

As I was saying, I broke my teapot and am shopping for a replacement. I like the shape of this one because it's perfect for my favorite dragon well tea: http://www.veniceclayartists.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/9.jpg The bad news is I found out 99% of the zisha teapots are fake and many are possibly made with clay containing poisonous chemicals.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

I check out interest auctions and here is a recent sale of an antique chicken cup. Prices are finally coming down because it sold for $36 million only, and not for over $39 million as anticipated. http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/ecatalogue/2014/meiyintang-chicken-cup-hk0545/lot.1.html

It's often the same bald guy from Sotheby's who holds the expensive pieces in his hands and looks like he's not at all worried that he'd drop them. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2599738/Rare-Ming-Dynasty-chicken-cup-described-holy-grail-Chinese-art-smashes-porcelain-price-record-20million-sale.html

 

[Doctor Detroit]

As I was saying, I broke my teapot and am shopping for a replacement. I like the shape of this one because it's perfect for my favorite dragon well tea: http://www.veniceclayartists.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/9.jpg The bad news is I found out 99% of the zisha teapots are fake and many are possibly made with clay containing poisonous chemicals.

Look, like I was saying in the deleted thread, you're not telling us the whole story here. Those zisha teapots can only be made in China due to the heat generated from high elevation Chinese stoves. Your assertion the Qing Dynasty somehow exported Yixing clay samples and they were copied by the Europeans is completely ridiculous. Shame on you, I thought you were better than this.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

As I was saying, I broke my teapot and am shopping for a replacement. I like the shape of this one because it's perfect for my favorite dragon well tea: http://www.veniceclayartists.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/9.jpg The bad news is I found out 99% of the zisha teapots are fake and many are possibly made with clay containing poisonous chemicals.

Look, like I was saying in the deleted thread, you're not telling us the whole story here. Those zisha teapots can only be made in China due to the heat generated from high elevation Chinese stoves. Your assertion the Qing Dynasty somehow exported Yixing clay samples and they were copied by the Europeans is completely ridiculous. Shame on you, I thought you were better than this.

No, it is not really the heat. Genuine zisha teapots must be made using clay from a specific region of China. They are often fakes today because very little of the clay is still available in those mines. Also, the good ones are crafted by hand by artists. There are about 10 artists who have received top ranking and they are called "National Treasures". The most famous two (Gu Jinzhou and Jiang Rong) are already deceased and the remaining ones are in their seventies or eighties.The best bet for FBGs who are not yet billionaires is to check out the work of the younger artists. This way, at least you'll have a teapot that you really like even if they do not advance to the top rank in the future. But you'll have to bid in auctions for anyone who is a little well known and even teapots by a no name is expensive.

I didn't say anything about copies by Europeans. The poisonous teapots are usually made in China. I hesitate to spend money on something that I am afraid to drink from.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

As I was saying, I broke my teapot and am shopping for a replacement. I like the shape of this one because it's perfect for my favorite dragon well tea: http://www.veniceclayartists.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/9.jpg The bad news is I found out 99% of the zisha teapots are fake and many are possibly made with clay containing poisonous chemicals.

Look, like I was saying in the deleted thread, you're not telling us the whole story here. Those zisha teapots can only be made in China due to the heat generated from high elevation Chinese stoves. Your assertion the Qing Dynasty somehow exported Yixing clay samples and they were copied by the Europeans is completely ridiculous. Shame on you, I thought you were better than this.

No, it is not really the heat. Genuine zisha teapots must be made using clay from a specific region of China. They are often fakes today because very little of the clay is still available in those mines. Also, the good ones are crafted by hand by artists. There are about 10 artists who have received top ranking and they are called "National Treasures". The most famous two (Gu Jinzhou and Jiang Rong) are already deceased and the remaining ones are in their seventies or eighties.The best bet for FBGs who are not yet billionaires is to check out the work of the younger artists. This way, at least you'll have a teapot that you really like even if they do not advance to the top rank in the future.

I didn't say anything about copies by Europeans. The poisonous teapots are usually ade in China.

Gu Jinzhou's daughter was in my spin class. She brought some water bottles made by Gu, many of them had designs reflecting the Ming period and did not have sealed phosphorous binding. Only the Europeans make dastardly pottery containing the phosphorous seal? Why? Because they can't replicate the metal oxides found only in Hangsen mines of China. Although the water bottles weighed seven pounds, they were a good example of the high desert crafts that China is most famous for, and also demonstrated that the Chinese are likely thin as a people because they are always carrying these things around.

 

[jon_mx]

Chinese Teapots? Is this some kind of code for Asian trannies?

 

[dozer]

I'll be in the knitting thread till this one really gets going.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

As I was saying, I broke my teapot and am shopping for a replacement. I like the shape of this one because it's perfect for my favorite dragon well tea: http://www.veniceclayartists.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/9.jpg The bad news is I found out 99% of the zisha teapots are fake and many are possibly made with clay containing poisonous chemicals.

Look, like I was saying in the deleted thread, you're not telling us the whole story here. Those zisha teapots can only be made in China due to the heat generated from high elevation Chinese stoves. Your assertion the Qing Dynasty somehow exported Yixing clay samples and they were copied by the Europeans is completely ridiculous. Shame on you, I thought you were better than this.

No, it is not really the heat. Genuine zisha teapots must be made using clay from a specific region of China. They are often fakes today because very little of the clay is still available in those mines. Also, the good ones are crafted by hand by artists. There are about 10 artists who have received top ranking and they are called "National Treasures". The most famous two (Gu Jinzhou and Jiang Rong) are already deceased and the remaining ones are in their seventies or eighties.The best bet for FBGs who are not yet billionaires is to check out the work of the younger artists. This way, at least you'll have a teapot that you really like even if they do not advance to the top rank in the future.

I didn't say anything about copies by Europeans. The poisonous teapots are usually ade in China.

Gu Jinzhou's daughter was in my spin class . She brought some water bottles made by Gu, many of them had designs reflecting the Ming period and did not have sealed phosphorous binding. Only the Europeans make dastardly pottery containing the phosphorous seal? Why? Because they can't replicate the metal oxides found only in Hangsen mines of China. Although the water bottles weighed seven pounds, they were a good example of the high desert crafts that China is most famous for, and also demonstrated that the Chinese are likely thin as a people because they are always carrying these things around.

Sure she was. She's useless to me unless she's good at beating clay.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Update: still looking but using this tea set for now....

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/09/96/fd/0996fdfd8e23cb7db03567a15f0b3c20.jpg

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Update: still looking but using this tea set for now....

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/09/96/fd/0996fdfd8e23cb7db03567a15f0b3c20.jpg

 

[PIK95]

 

[Rohn Jambo]

It is pretty obvious art dealers are artificially jacking up prices on older pieces. I shopped around for more modern tea sets and this sale item in the MoMA Store made my jaw drop:

http://www.momastore.org/museum/moma/ProductDisplay_Jeff%20Koons:%20Banality%20Coffee%20Cups%20and%20Saucers_10451_10001_176556_-1_26669_26671_176562

 

[QuizGuy66]

Um are you sure that it wasn't poisonous chemicals in your old teapot that was making the tea so tasty? Wouldn't want you to shell out big only to discover this. HTH

-QG

 

[QuizGuy66]

Oh and

-QG

 

[Leroy Hoard]

You should have known better. That antique pottery once belonged to someone's daughter.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Is it really wrong to drink out of the chicken cup?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/21/chinese-chicken-cup_n_5606668.html

 

[Ilov80s]

If you ask me, the whole Greek White Ground Technique was NSFW.