Who have you been patient with? (1 Viewer)

[Ketamine Dreams]

Still hoping Colston turns it around. Also traded for Brees on the cheap and would mind seeing a closer return to last year's numbers...

 

[timschochet]

Roddy White. I've been carrying him for 3 years on dynasty team and it looks like he may finally be coming around. So many times I've come close to waiving him (like to make roster space for an injury pickup or bye week or something) but always decided to pass on waiving him for some other bum on my team. Hopefully he'll emerge at least as a top 20 WR for a few years. I'd be happy with that.

You guys that play dynasty, I am really impressed. I would never have that amount of patience in a million years

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

Roddy White. I've been carrying him for 3 years on dynasty team and it looks like he may finally be coming around. So many times I've come close to waiving him (like to make roster space for an injury pickup or bye week or something) but always decided to pass on waiving him for some other bum on my team. Hopefully he'll emerge at least as a top 20 WR for a few years. I'd be happy with that.

You guys that play dynasty, I am really impressed. I would never have that amount of patience in a million years

Especially with a guy like White. I doubt he'll ever really make it.

 

[-OZ-]

The short list:

Lee Evans

Matt Jones

Vince Young

Chris Henry

Ben Troupe

Andre Johnson

Keith Bulluck

Brian Urlacher

 

[(unwelcomed)GUEST]

10 team redraft.

I'm holding and waiting for the emergence of:

RB Selvin Young

RB Larry Maroney

TE Vernon Davis

I also have RBs WParker, Len"Whale"White, and Kevin Jones. I think Jones has hit his stride and showed that last week, so the waiting is over. FatDale is a craptastic runningback, he's going to be out of the league in a year or two IMHO. Quite frankly, I 'm shocked he performed like he did last week. GodBless Chris Brown and those glass slippers that he wears. Without his annual injury BigLenny would still be rushing for 50 yds a game. The rookie looked better than both of those backs, the writing is on the wall there. As for Parker, I wasn't that high on him to start with. He will continue to get 100 combined yds and 0.2 TDs a game. The lack of a blocking FB hurts, Daventurd hurts and the emergence of the TE in that system hurts. It really isn't a surprise though, under the Cower regime the TE was always underutilized. The Steelers have some real talent at that position, they're finally using them.

After Scheffler's performance, Davis is on a short leash. The return of Alex Smith does nothing to instill confidence in this Davis owner. If I owned him in a dynasty format things may be different but in a redraft Davis is going to be on the wire shortly.

 

[Jeff Haseley]

Mark Clayton - I think he'll have a good 2nd half. He is coming along. 29 targets in the last 5 games. No TDs yet, but he's too talented not to eventually produce. His series of injuries really hurt him. Hopefully it won't be anything that will linger the whole season.

 

[(unwelcomed)GUEST]

Mark Clayton - I think he'll have a good 2nd half. He is coming along. 29 targets in the last 5 games. No TDs yet, but he's too talented not to eventually produce. His series of injuries really hurt him. Hopefully it won't be anything that will linger the whole season.

The wheels are falling of the cart in Bmore. Unless it's a dynasty, part ways with everyone associated with this team unless you have Mason as a WR3.

 

[PACKER 7]

I didn't have to be patient, but an impatient Benson owner traded him to me as a part of a bigger deal.

I just don't understand why this guy isn't screaming buy low value?

He's 10th in the league in attempts per game. Now I know he isn't doing anything with those attempts basically, but how many guys in the league get as many chances as Benson, not many.

Non-RBBC RBs are a commodity these days.

I just have to believe that Benson will break through. I hope beginning this week.

 

[-OZ-]

I didn't have to be patient, but an impatient Benson owner traded him to me as a part of a bigger deal.I just don't understand why this guy isn't screaming buy low value?He's 10th in the league in attempts per game. Now I know he isn't doing anything with those attempts basically, but how many guys in the league get as many chances as Benson, not many.Non-RBBC RBs are a commodity these days.I just have to believe that Benson will break through. I hope beginning this week.

I'd rather take a chance with RBs who haven't shown they can't play.Benson might be a decent risk if bought cheap in redrafts, but I don't see a future in dynasty leagues.

 

[The Ref]

Little suprized that I'm only the second vote for Ahman Green. I see some upside to the rest of his year in PPR.

 

[el-gato-grande]

I don't think guys who have been injured should be on this list. What patience must you display to put them on IR until they get healthy and replace the roster spot with another player? That isn't pain.

Going 0-3 while watching LJ and the KC Offensive line get their heads beat in by several excellent run defenses...now that is PAIN. I would also include Matt Schaub. The guy would have had an outstanding season had AJ not gone down with injury. Now he is just another QB2 rather than a mid-round SOD.

 

[Jeff Haseley]

Mark Clayton - I think he'll have a good 2nd half. He is coming along. 29 targets in the last 5 games. No TDs yet, but he's too talented not to eventually produce. His series of injuries really hurt him. Hopefully it won't be anything that will linger the whole season.

The wheels are falling of the cart in Bmore. Unless it's a dynasty, part ways with everyone associated with this team unless you have Mason as a WR3.

Why do you think the sky is falling in Baltimore? The Ravens lead the NFL with 175 receptions to date. With Todd Heap ailing, someone has to fill in and Clayton is the most talented receiver on the entire team when healthy. His 2nd half could be very productive. Nobody knows for sure what will happen, but the necessary factors are there for success and sometimes just knowing that provides you an edge over your opponents.

 

[Warhound]

I'm still waiting on Hackett but I don't know why.

I was waiting for my #1 pick Rudi to come back to form but I got tired of waiting and traded him away for Stallworth. Everyone in my league thought I was nuts but Donte has been producing for me while the guy I traded Rudi hasn't even had the chance to start him due to the injuries. All I gotta say is thank God I drafted ADP and Moss and drafting Rudi didn't kill my team.

 

[Ryan_21]

I didn't have to be patient, but an impatient Benson owner traded him to me as a part of a bigger deal.I just don't understand why this guy isn't screaming buy low value?He's 10th in the league in attempts per game. Now I know he isn't doing anything with those attempts basically, but how many guys in the league get as many chances as Benson, not many.Non-RBBC RBs are a commodity these days.I just have to believe that Benson will break through. I hope beginning this week.

Most people just look at the YPC and say "he sucks" failing to realize that through the first 7 weeks Benson has faced murderers row of Run defenses. Having went up against run defenses ranked 4,6,7,8,11. He also faced KC who is ranked 17th in run defense and played rather well, and when he last played Det (#19) the Bears were behind big all game. Definately a buy low candidate, but dont wait to long. The next 4 weeks Benson has run defenses ranked 19, 29, 15, 32.If Grieseball can stop fumbling and throwing picks around the goalline and the Bears can get the lead in these games, I can see Benson really come on strong and start to run downhill like I know he can.

 

[gianmarco]

Benson has gone over 67 yds all of 1 game all year and it was for a whopping 101 on 24 carries vs. KC. Detroit hardly counts as a "murderers row" and he managed a whopping 50 yds on 15 carries. He gets to face Det, GB, and Minn again, against whom he had 0 success. 4 games so far with <3 ypc average. He's at 3.1 ypc for the year. He's gotten more than enough opportunities for the year. Most every game for Chicago this year has been close so he's had ample chances to get going. And he's managed 2 TDs all year. What kind of hope is there for this guy?

 

[Ryan_21]

Benson has gone over 67 yds all of 1 game all year and it was for a whopping 101 on 24 carries vs. KC. Detroit hardly counts as a "murderers row" and he managed a whopping 50 yds on 15 carries. He gets to face Det, GB, and Minn again, against whom he had 0 success. 4 games so far with <3 ypc average. He's at 3.1 ypc for the year. He's gotten more than enough opportunities for the year. Most every game for Chicago this year has been close so he's had ample chances to get going. And he's managed 2 TDs all year. What kind of hope is there for this guy?

Detroit hardly counts as a "murderers row" and he managed a whopping 50 yds on 15 carries

I agree, but like I said, the Bears were behind in the game and it was on the road. As for his TDs, how many times can Grieseball fumble or throw a pick on the goal line?

 

[gianmarco]

Benson has gone over 67 yds all of 1 game all year and it was for a whopping 101 on 24 carries vs. KC. Detroit hardly counts as a "murderers row" and he managed a whopping 50 yds on 15 carries. He gets to face Det, GB, and Minn again, against whom he had 0 success. 4 games so far with <3 ypc average. He's at 3.1 ypc for the year. He's gotten more than enough opportunities for the year. Most every game for Chicago this year has been close so he's had ample chances to get going. And he's managed 2 TDs all year. What kind of hope is there for this guy?

Detroit hardly counts as a "murderers row" and he managed a whopping 50 yds on 15 carries

I agree, but like I said, the Bears were behind in the game and it was on the road. As for his TDs, how many times can Grieseball fumble or throw a pick on the goal line?

What's the difference? You think Benson is the only guy to play with a sub-par QB? Griese is HARDLY the problem with Benson. Try just looking at his talent. How about you give Benson a QB like Tarvaris Jackson or Kelly Holcomb? Seems AP has done just fine with him. How about giving him Cleo Lemon or Trent Green? Seems Ronnie Brown did fine with them. Possibly give him J.P. Losman or Trent Edwards? Seems Lynch has done fine with them.Or maybe you can stop blaming the QB or the team or their schedule and just realize that Benson just isn't very good. He just isn't. He hasn't had a game yet with less than 15 carries yet he's put up 6 out 7 crappy games and even his best effort is above-average at best. I can easily list 2/3rd of the league's RB's that if put in Chicago would fare better than he is.

 

[Exile]

Lee Evans. I picked him cheap weeks ago and stashed him waiting for this 3 game stretch (Jets, Bengals, Dolphins). I'm looking for solid starts in 2 games and 1 of his big 3 TD games in the other. He's got another nice stretch (Dolphins, Browns, Giants) in the playoffs (weeks 14-16).

 

[gianmarco]

Also, you only listed 5 of the 7 run defenses. What about the other 2? Did you selectively leave them out? What's the difference if he gets to face 4 easy run defenses in the next 4 weeks if he couldn't do anything against the 2 poor run defenses you left out already? I would consider agreeing with you if you at least showed he was able to produce against lower quality teams but that just hasn't been the case. He's actually sucked all the way around which makes this an easy case to decide. The only thing Benson has going for him is his # of carries and that may soon change (and should).

 

[seatownfavorite]

and when he last played Det (#19) the Bears were behind big all game.

Not sure which game you weren't watching but the Lions had exactly 3 points (or roughly 1/4 the points of Chicago) heading into the 4th quarter. The Bears led from the 4:16 mark in the second quarter until the 13:14 mark in the 4th quarter. So the Bears were ahead or within 3 points until 5:14 to go in the 4th quarter.

 

[Ryan_21]

How about you give Benson a QB like Tarvaris Jackson or Kelly Holcomb? Seems AP has done just fine with him. How about giving him Cleo Lemon or Trent Green? Seems Ronnie Brown did fine with them. Possibly give him J.P. Losman or Trent Edwards? Seems Lynch has done fine with them.

Look at the Vikings offensive Line. Cleo Lemon/Trent Green? Look at Cam Camerons scheme? Lynch? 3.6 YPC.

Also, you only listed 5 of the 7 run defenses

No I listed: 4,6,7,8,11,17, and 19. Cant read or what?

 

[Ryan_21]

and when he last played Det (#19) the Bears were behind big all game.

Not sure which game you weren't watching but the Lions had exactly 3 points (or roughly 1/4 the points of Chicago) heading into the 4th quarter. The Bears led from the 4:16 mark in the second quarter until the 13:14 mark in the 4th quarter. So the Bears were ahead or within 3 points until 5:14 to go in the 4th quarter.

My bad, Im thinking of the wrong game then. Bottom line tho is Benson has faced the toughest run defensive schedule that I have seen for any RB this year. Thats my only point.

 

[nerangers]

Mark Clayton - I think he'll have a good 2nd half. He is coming along. 29 targets in the last 5 games. No TDs yet, but he's too talented not to eventually produce. His series of injuries really hurt him. Hopefully it won't be anything that will linger the whole season.

The wheels are falling of the cart in Bmore. Unless it's a dynasty, part ways with everyone associated with this team unless you have Mason as a WR3.

Why do you think the sky is falling in Baltimore? The Ravens lead the NFL with 175 receptions to date. With Todd Heap ailing, someone has to fill in and Clayton is the most talented receiver on the entire team when healthy. His 2nd half could be very productive. Nobody knows for sure what will happen, but the necessary factors are there for success and sometimes just knowing that provides you an edge over your opponents.

I traded for Clayton (and a draft pick) right before our trade deadline. I was tired of how Santana Moss is a feast or famine player, and always playing him at the wrong time. Figure Clayton would be a good long term player for my Dynasty league. I too think he will step it up the second half as long as he is healthy.I too been sitting on Norwood. Keep thinking the Falcons need to re-establish the run game, and he is the one to do it.Still being patient about Marvin Harrison too...

 

[Tanner9919]

Still hoping Colston turns it around. Also traded for Brees on the cheap and would mind seeing a closer return to last year's numbers...

Dynasty leagueGore is about to explode, been waiting on him..and if ever AJ gets back on the field..also, I've been patient with Santonio Holmes, since week 10 last season..currently waiting on selvin young to take over the starting role in Denver, or at least become a major contributor out there..

 

[taco breath]

santonio holmes

 

[gianmarco]

How about you give Benson a QB like Tarvaris Jackson or Kelly Holcomb? Seems AP has done just fine with him. How about giving him Cleo Lemon or Trent Green? Seems Ronnie Brown did fine with them. Possibly give him J.P. Losman or Trent Edwards? Seems Lynch has done fine with them.

Look at the Vikings offensive Line. Cleo Lemon/Trent Green? Look at Cam Camerons scheme? Lynch? 3.6 YPC.

Also, you only listed 5 of the 7 run defenses

No I listed: 4,6,7,8,11,17, and 19. Cant read or what?

Yes, I can read. I didn't notice you listed the 17th and 19th later on. My bad.Oh, and those are good excuses for why those other guys (AP, Brown, Lynch) can succeed but Benson can't. Always something else or someone else's fault, right? I guess all those INT's that those QB's threw at the GL for those guys don't matter, eh? Oh, and the reason that Benson isn't good is because Griese turns the ball over, but the fact that Green and Lemon and Edwards and Losman and T. Jackson turn the ball over the same is overlooked and we simply attribute their success to other reasons? Gotcha. So, with your examples above, Benson can't run because his O-line isn't good (reason AP is good), their running scheme is flawed (Brown), and Benson = Lynch since their YPC is the same? I'll give you another possibility. Benson isn't as good as AP, Benson isn't as good as Brown, and Benson isn't as good as Lynch. In fact, Benson isn't as good as just about any other starting RB in the league with the exception of 4-5 guys. And while Griese was horrid yesterday, did you happen to watch the game? Benson still blows and it doesn't matter what his QB is doing. He just flat out, plain ole, sucks. And even IF the reason was his QB, that situation won't improve for the rest of the year without a miracle, so what makes you think holding onto Benson patiently for the remainder of the year is going to pay off? He struggled yet again against a very mediocre run defense while his counterpart (AP2) continued to outshine him.