detfan782004
Footballguy
I have heard it will be Caldwell but with Gabriel trade and Jackson the rookie who will emerge as Tom Brady's number 1? He always gets his passing yards so someone has to get them right.
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Who is clear cut #1 in NE at WR? (1 Viewer)
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diesel7982
Footballguy
Clear cut? No one.
Brown/Caldwell will likely start, though Caldwell will only do so because hes not a rookie and not injured. I fully believe Caldwell will be released at some point this season.
Gabriel will be worked in throughout the season, as will Chad Jackson.
They do not want Brown or Caldwell starting for any great length of time, especially Caldwell.
Brown/Caldwell will likely start, though Caldwell will only do so because hes not a rookie and not injured. I fully believe Caldwell will be released at some point this season.
Gabriel will be worked in throughout the season, as will Chad Jackson.
They do not want Brown or Caldwell starting for any great length of time, especially Caldwell.
franks&beans
Footballguy
detfan782004
Footballguy
Thanks.
Clear as mud.
I guess at this point Troy Williamson has more value than any of them anyhow.
Clear as mud.
I guess at this point Troy Williamson has more value than any of them anyhow.
franks&beans
Footballguy
Yup, I would not be surprised if Branch still lead them in receptions at the end of the year.
Vintage_Football
Footballguy
Troy Williamson will be pretty good this year, but i took a good look at Gabriel, and depending on what kind of league you're in, i'd take a look at Gabriel too,...Gabriel more in Keeper, Williamson more in seasonal, just cause Williamson is in Minn. and Gabriel in NE,...maybe if Williamson was somewhere else i'd flop it for ya. 
detfan782004
Footballguy
Well I already have D Jackson (still not 100 percent)L. Evans (seems to do well with Losman)A. Johnson (hope he bounces back)Stallworth (he makes me nervous now that he has to learn new offense)Troy Williamson will be pretty good this year, but i took a good look at Gabriel, and depending on what kind of league you're in, i'd take a look at Gabriel too,...Gabriel more in Keeper, Williamson more in seasonal, just cause Williamson is in Minn. and Gabriel in NE,...maybe if Williamson was somewhere else i'd flop it for ya.
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
Watson.
He has a real chance to put up Gates-type numbers this year. Will he? Probably not...but the opportunity and talent is there.
He has a real chance to put up Gates-type numbers this year. Will he? Probably not...but the opportunity and talent is there.
Noahs Troopers
Footballguy
The poster asked the Question, Who is the clear cut #1 WR WR WR
Ben Watson is a TE, he is not a WR. Ben Watson will likely be the best receiving option, yet he is still not a WR. How about answering the mans question the way it was asked.
Also when someone says "Who is the #2 WR for the Saints" then the answer is NOT Reggie Bush, he is a RB.
Logic people, it's not that hard.
Ben Watson is a TE, he is not a WR. Ben Watson will likely be the best receiving option, yet he is still not a WR. How about answering the mans question the way it was asked.
Also when someone says "Who is the #2 WR for the Saints" then the answer is NOT Reggie Bush, he is a RB.
Logic people, it's not that hard.
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
Yet, for a lot of us that play in leagues that make no distinction between WR/TE, they're all the same to us.You need to relax, and quit the superiority act. It's tired.
franks&beans
Footballguy
I am so confused, what did you just say???Troy Williamson will be pretty good this year, but i took a good look at Gabriel, and depending on what kind of league you're in, i'd take a look at Gabriel too,...Gabriel more in Keeper, Williamson more in seasonal, just cause Williamson is in Minn. and Gabriel in NE,...maybe if Williamson was somewhere else i'd flop it for ya.
franks&beans
Footballguy
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
Some people.Anyway, the word around here is that Caldwell has sucked hardcore and has not picked up the playbook that well. I think Gabriel has a shot to get that WR2 spot. I also think that, unless Branch comes back, all owners should avoid the Patriot WR situation like the plague.Noahs Troopers
Footballguy
Superiority? Give it a rest, I don't do that at all. Well, the poster who posed the question and his content is this "I have heard it will be Caldwell but with Gabriel trade and Jackson the rookie who will emerge as Tom Brady's number 1? He always gets his passing yards so someone has to get them right."Ya think maybe he's in the middle of a draft and Watson could be gone but Caldwell/Gabriel/Brown are still available?
Ya think maybe his draft is over and Watson is rostered and the 3 WRS are not?
Ya think you could just help the guy out with his question without saying a TE is a WR?
Ya think his league uses WR and TE as the same thing like yours?
Ya think ???
Gopher State
Footballguy
This is deep man
Vintage_Football
Footballguy
I was saying that Gabriel might take more time to develop in NE than Williamson in Minn, but i like Gabriels value in NE over long-term than Williamsons in Minn.
franks&beans
Footballguy
As the poster said "He always gets his passing yards so someone has to get them right." and as we responded, it will be Watson. I also responded that I would not be suprised if Branch still lead the team at the end of the year. Did that not answer his question, alteast based on my oppinion because nobody knows the answer to his questions.
Noahs Troopers
Footballguy
You're right, the worst part is nobody knows the answer to these questions, not even me the Superior...
franks&beans
Footballguy
Thanks, the original post got me confused.
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
Noahs Troopers
Footballguy
Oops, you got me. Just a little.
franks&beans
Footballguy
The first step is to admit there is a problem. Sounds like you are on the road to recovery.You're right, the worst part is nobody knows the answer to these questions, not even me the Superior...
Norman Einstein
Footballguy
Brady spreads the ball around so much, I'm not sure there is a clear #1
rabidfireweasel
Footballguy
I assume Watson is rostered is most leagues. I really like Troy Brown. I doubt he cracks 4 or5 TD's, but I think he will put up 750 yards without much difficulty. Brady will look for him when Watson is double and triple covered.
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
Oops, you got me. Just a little.
As far as the original question, if you're only counting "true" WRs, I'd take a flier on Gabriel, but I'd say he's the only one worth a real shot on a roster that's not deep.franks&beans
Footballguy
Sure there is, Deion Branch.
mightyeskimo
Footballguy
Sensative?
zamboni
Footballguy
Which is why I'm a bit hesitant on all the Watson hype, although that's for another thread. They also have another good receiving (and blocking) TE in Graham, and IIRC they just drafted a rookie TE (name escapes me) pretty early.
franks&beans
Footballguy
The other tight end is David Thomas and neither he nor Graham are anywhere close to what Watson is. I see the Pats playing many two tightend sets with Watson being the star and Graham having just enough to keep his value down as his contract is up after this year.
detfan782004
Footballguy
Thanks for all the comments. I realize Watson is going to get a lot of balls but really just interested int he WR.
franks&beans
Footballguy
I still think that Branch will lead the team in receptions. I believe that they will kiss and make up sooner rather than later. Brown is too old and not a legitimate factor. Caldwell is not picking up the offense and will not be a factor either.Gabriel is new and may only be a threat to Branch or he may help out in a few weeks. Bellicheck can recoup a 5th round pick 6 or 7 times during the draft next year so that does not mean much to him.Childress could have some value, but certainly no where near Troy Williamson.Now that this has all been said, to get back to your statement in post #5, you are correct Troy Williamson has more value than any of the above mentioned NE receivers.To answer your question on post #1, Ben Watson will emerge as Brady’s number 1 just as Ben Coates was Bledsoe’s #1.Is that clearer than mud? Then again this is just my opinion so that may not mean much to anyone.
You need a bad operation.
DoubleG
Footballguy
Many who are saying "take a flier on Gabriel" are forgetting one simple fact. Is Gabriel a better WR than Troy Brown or Reche Caldwell? Probably. However, if Caldwell is taking a while picking up the offense, it is safe to assume that Gabriel will take some time getting comfortable as well. By then Branch could be back - or more likely it will be a "WRBC" situation with the 2 of the 3 rotating, along with working in the rookie. JMHO, but before you rank Gabriel to high keep in mind he has a week to learn what Reche, Troy and the rookie have spent all of preseason learning.
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#1 WR on Depth chart to start the season will almost definitely be Reche Caldwell.
#1 WR on depth chart come mid-season MAY be Gabriel.
in the long tern, Chad Jackson should emerge as the #1 receiver on the depth chart
and in terms of production, Watson will likely be the best receiving option.
#1 WR on depth chart come mid-season MAY be Gabriel.
in the long tern, Chad Jackson should emerge as the #1 receiver on the depth chart
and in terms of production, Watson will likely be the best receiving option.
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
What are the thoughts on Chad Jackson? With Branch out and Caldwell being terrible, I'd think Jackson would have a great chance to emerge. I thought he was a big-time talent with the size and the speed. He was looking good in camp, but obviously that injury set him back.
The hamstring is still a problem, but I think Jackson might be the #1WR as soon as he returns. He's ahead of Gabriel in terms of digesting the playbook, and neither Caldwell nor Brown are very good.
(And before anyone gets on the whole rookie on the Patriots thing, don't forget that Deion Branch was a stud as a rookie pre-injury. He ranked 10th in PPR leagues through five weeks, with 32/375/2 in the first five games of his career.)
The hamstring is still a problem, but I think Jackson might be the #1WR as soon as he returns. He's ahead of Gabriel in terms of digesting the playbook, and neither Caldwell nor Brown are very good.
(And before anyone gets on the whole rookie on the Patriots thing, don't forget that Deion Branch was a stud as a rookie pre-injury. He ranked 10th in PPR leagues through five weeks, with 32/375/2 in the first five games of his career.)
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According to Stallworth it should be no problem learning the West Coast offense and part of that reason he says is because he's from California....seriously, he said that.
ATC1
Footballguy
I heard it really wasn't a matter of his hamstring, but him picking up the playbook. If this is false, then yes, he would be my guess as the #1.
duaneok66
Footballguy
Word is that he's been slow to digest the playbook . . . that, coupled with the fact that he's had very little practice time, leads me to believe that he won't be much of a factor in 2006 . . .
Chase Stuart
Footballguy
With's Brady's top WR from 2005 gone, along with his second, fourth and fifth receivers, and with his top free agent acquisition WR being a dissapointment, and his highly drafted rookie WR failing to inspire confidence, I'm shocked at how high Brady's ADP still is. I know this thread isn't about Brady, but I don't know how he's still being drafted in the top ten. I understand that he's an excellent real life QB and he was very good last year, but the Patriots have gone through six WRs since then. An ADP of QB2 (although Palmer's ahead of him in most drafts by now) is mind-boggling.
brakeyawself
Footballguy
Sep 3 Mike Reiss, of the Boston Globe, reports recently acquired New England Patriots WR Doug Gabriel is expected to serve as the team's deep threat, as Gabriel has averaged 15.8 yards per catch.
I dont know what that means towards anything. I guess he will get big yards eh?
I dont know what that means towards anything. I guess he will get big yards eh?
detfan782004
Footballguy
Yea this whole thing looks like a big mess to avoid for a few weeks until I have to bid on a player.
Don't hijack by comparing Vick to Brady please. Brady would love to have Vick's WRs. White/Jenkins/Lelie is much better than a lot of teams have, they just need a QB to throw them an accurate pass.I think Brady will spread the ball around, Watson is the only one that will be starter material, at least for a few weeks. If Branch loses his grievence, will he play this season?
Vintage_Football
Footballguy
Last superbowl, i'd like to think Givens and Branch would have been a better situation for the Pats to argue no true #1 then what they've got now.
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Deuce'sWild
Footballguy
I dropped Caldwell and picked up Gabriel. I just think he is the more talented WR. I don't need him now, but later in the year he may be of some value for me....
whereas Caldwell doesn't do much for me.
I see Brown and Gabriel getting most of the WR love, with Gabriel getting the redzone and deep ball looks because of his size.
whereas Caldwell doesn't do much for me.
I see Brown and Gabriel getting most of the WR love, with Gabriel getting the redzone and deep ball looks because of his size.
detfan782004
Footballguy
You would think Oakland would have traded Porter since he is the problem and not Gabriel but whatever I guess. Gabriel I will have to watch closely. We carry only 4 WR and I cant waste a spot right now.
phrozen
Footballguy
I think your not the sharpest knife in the drawer :11:
Geaux Cowboys
Footballguy
Troy Brown had 8 targets, 4 catches for 64 yards in the important 3rd preseason game through 2.5 quarters. Including an endzone target that was picked off but overturned on a penalty.
He may be old, he may be a step slower, but he seems to be Brady's only reliable WR target...just remember they hooked up for 100 catches back to back just a few years ago. Seems like everyone is pretending he doesn't exist anymore in here, and I predict he will sniff 1000yds unless Branch comes back soon and he takes more of a 3rd WR role. He knows that offense, and tends to find holes in the defense.
He may be old, he may be a step slower, but he seems to be Brady's only reliable WR target...just remember they hooked up for 100 catches back to back just a few years ago. Seems like everyone is pretending he doesn't exist anymore in here, and I predict he will sniff 1000yds unless Branch comes back soon and he takes more of a 3rd WR role. He knows that offense, and tends to find holes in the defense.
