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Have not seen anything confirmed yet..Henry is already out..will Young play?
having the misfortune of owning two Broncos this year - Hall and Walker - I've appreciated your info all year - Thanks Packers(Bronco?)Fan!packersfan said:Henry's out.The Broncos will test Young before the game to see if he can play. If he can't, Hall starts.My guess is Young sits and Hall starts. Given how Young's only work this week in practice was limited work on Friday it's reasonable to assume his injury is bad enough to keep him from playing.Just an FYI - I've seen this game listed as being an early start but it is a late game.Edited to add- the main concern for Young owners is that even if he starts will he be healthy enough to finish? Frankly, unless you absolutely positively need him to start I'd avoid Young this week. Way too much risk in my opinion.
So it seems that Hall will at least split carries... for those of us thinking about starting Hall?packersfan said:Edited to add- the main concern for Young owners is that even if he starts will he be healthy enough to finish? Frankly, unless you absolutely positively need him to start I'd avoid Young this week. Way too much risk in my opinion.
That's just my speculation that Young may not finish what he starts. It's certainly possible Young will wake up tomorrow, feel fine and dominate the carries as he did in the first two games he started. The problem here for Young owners is he's started three games and been unable to finish two of them as the primary ballcarrier. That's a major red flag in my opinion. So even if he was healthy, his durability issues would represent at least some cause for concern. But when you factor in the fact that he is currently injured and did next-to-nothing in practice this week in my opinion that significantly increases the possibility he may not get all of the carries tomorrow if he's able to play.I know some Bronco fans don't like to hear this but I'll say again this looks just like the Tatum Bell/Mike Bell situation from a season ago after Tatum suffered his toe injuries. As a Young owner, I hope I'm wrong because I had Tatum last year and it was a disaster after he got hurt. But Young now reminds me so much of Tatum last season it's scary.So it seems that Hall will at least split carries.packersfan said:Edited to add- the main concern for Young owners is that even if he starts will he be healthy enough to finish? Frankly, unless you absolutely positively need him to start I'd avoid Young this week. Way too much risk in my opinion.
I'm not sure if I'd say I was a Bronco fan but I do have three of them on my roster (Cutler being the other) so I have a vested interest in this team, that's for sure. And thank you for the compliment. Much appreciated.having the misfortune of owning two Broncos this year - Hall and Walker - I've appreciated your info all year - Thanks Packers(Bronco?)Fan!
This is another reason why I think Young is going to sit tomorrow and Hall starts with Bell backing him up. No way Shanahan makes this move in my opinion if he was convinced Young was going to play.Just to add to the confusion, Kyle Johnson was signed which indirectly affects things - Mike Bell could now see some time at tailback.....
I know I'm really pigeonholing myself here, but Construxboy did a study comparing how many points players score in games where they're questionable to how they score in games where they don't appear on the injury report, and he found that the two figures were, for all intents and purposes, identical.packersfan said:Edited to add- the main concern for Young owners is that even if he starts will he be healthy enough to finish? Frankly, unless you absolutely positively need him to start I'd avoid Young this week. Way too much risk in my opinion.
Not necessarily. Hall will definitely get at least a handful of carries, because the RB2 always gets some carries. I wouldn't call it "splitting", though, because that would imply a significant sharing of meaningful carries, and that may or may not happen. I've heard nothing to indicate that would be the case, but I've also heard nothing to indicate that it wouldn't. We can speculate that Young would probably get spelled a bit more than usual, but keep in mind what that is- pure unadulturated speculation.So it seems that Hall will at least split carries... for those of us thinking about starting Hall?packersfan said:Edited to add- the main concern for Young owners is that even if he starts will he be healthy enough to finish? Frankly, unless you absolutely positively need him to start I'd avoid Young this week. Way too much risk in my opinion.![]()
Shanahan lost one RB/FB (Henry) and signed one RB/FB (Johnson). Johnson's signing makes me more concerned for Henry than for Young, especially since Henry's injury is the more likely of the two to linger, imo.This is another reason why I think Young is going to sit tomorrow and Hall starts with Bell backing him up. No way Shanahan makes this move in my opinion if he was convinced Young was going to play.Just to add to the confusion, Kyle Johnson was signed which indirectly affects things - Mike Bell could now see some time at tailback.....
No, what's fantasy is thinking Young won't be the starter if healthy.The writing is on the wall: Hall is going to get an audition. What happens is anybody's guess, but the idea that Young has a starting job locked up is pure fantasy.
But why stop at "two quick scores"? Seems like 4 quick scores would make more sense.All this speculation about the RB situation could easily lead to a "zag" by Shanny, who comes out firing with 3-wide and Walker in the game. At that point, Cutler rears back and throws left and right, marching Denver downfield against a suspect Chicago secondary. I could easly see a ton of throwing early and ignore the run game by at least 2-1 in play calls, with Cutler using Walker, Stokely and Marshall along with Scheffler to get two quick scores and control the game.Then he'll worry about his RB situation.
Weird I was thinking the fantasy was that Young could stay healthy, since he hasn't completed a single season in high school college or pro without a injury.No, what's fantasy is thinking Young won't be the starter if healthy.The writing is on the wall: Hall is going to get an audition. What happens is anybody's guess, but the idea that Young has a starting job locked up is pure fantasy.
Shanahan did something very similar inserting Cutler into the starting lineup last season. Different positions, yes, but it still shows that he's willing to shake things up.With the positive things many of the FBG staff who have Denver connections have said about Hall, I think it's feasible that Hall gets a lot of work if Young can't go.The Broncos are in the hunt for a division title. I highly doubt Shanahan is going to start auditioning players for jobs at this critical juncture of the season. If Young is healthy, I believe he'll be the starter.
Shanny doesn't do this. I don't think he ever hasAll this speculation about the RB situation could easily lead to a "zag" by Shanny, who comes out firing with 3-wide and Walker in the game. At that point, Cutler rears back and throws left and right, marching Denver downfield against a suspect Chicago secondary. I could easly see a ton of throwing early and ignore the run game by at least 2-1 in play calls, with Cutler using Walker, Stokely and Marshall along with Scheffler to get two quick scores and control the game.Then he'll worry about his RB situation.
Morrisey is a goon. Don't listen to him -- he's a columnist, not a beat reporter. I am a Bear homer with 3 Broncos on my FF team (Cutler, Marshall, Hall) and am still undecided on how to go...Bears D can be bad/good quarter by quarter....I've got Young. In the Chicago Tribune this morning a guy named Morrissey refers to the bronco offense as "above average." Let's count it up:
-Sophmore QB
-Sophmore WR1 having lost BOTH of last year's starters
-Undrafted rookie, 2nd string RB or less
-Not playing against an AFC Waste opponent
Two lessons here:
-Bench all your broncos
-the Chicago Tribune doesn't have a legitimate sports section
Cutler was a first-round pick who everyone and their mother knew was going to be the starting QB at some point. Andre Hall is a third-string RB who, outside of one terrific TD run, has done nothing of note offensively this season and has been buried on the depth chart. The two situations are not comparable at all. What you're also ignoring is the starting QB last season (Plummer) wasn't playing well - hence the reason for the change. In this instance, Young has played very well in two of his three starts. So again, the analogy is off base. The problem with Young hasn't been his production; it's been his durability issues.Shanahan did something very similar inserting Cutler into the starting lineup last season. Different positions, yes, but it still shows that he's willing to shake things up.The Broncos are in the hunt for a division title. I highly doubt Shanahan is going to start auditioning players for jobs at this critical juncture of the season. If Young is healthy, I believe he'll be the starter.
If Young struggles like Plummer did last year, Hall will get his shot. If Young is injured and Hall sets the world on fire in relief, Hall will get his shot. Barring either of those situations, Hall has essentially no chance to surpass Young on the depth chart.Shanahan did something very similar inserting Cutler into the starting lineup last season. Different positions, yes, but it still shows that he's willing to shake things up.With the positive things many of the FBG staff who have Denver connections have said about Hall, I think it's feasible that Hall gets a lot of work if Young can't go.The Broncos are in the hunt for a division title. I highly doubt Shanahan is going to start auditioning players for jobs at this critical juncture of the season. If Young is healthy, I believe he'll be the starter.
Sure he does. Denver's a lot like Pittsburgh sometimes- pass to get the lead, run to keep it. Now, if that's the case, the pass:run margin wouldn't REMAIN at 2:1, because Denver would be grinding clock. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Denver passed its way to its first 2-3 scores, though.Shanny doesn't do this. I don't think he ever hasAll this speculation about the RB situation could easily lead to a "zag" by Shanny, who comes out firing with 3-wide and Walker in the game. At that point, Cutler rears back and throws left and right, marching Denver downfield against a suspect Chicago secondary. I could easly see a ton of throwing early and ignore the run game by at least 2-1 in play calls, with Cutler using Walker, Stokely and Marshall along with Scheffler to get two quick scores and control the game.Then he'll worry about his RB situation.