Who is the best Wide Receiver after the catch? (1 Viewer)

[wiscstlatlmia]

Honestly, I think I would go with Brandon Marshall as my #1, with Dez Bryant a close #2 and Harvin #3

who do you guys think has the best combination of speed, strength, burst, tackle breaking ability and elusiveness after the catch?

 

[TheWick]

Ummmm...Calvin Johnson???

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

Ummmm...Calvin Johnson???

Best WR in the league yes, best after the catch, not in my opinion

 

[Mimo]

Steve Smith and Percy Harvin are pretty good after the catch.

 

[rickyg]

Wes welker? Victor Cruz?

 

[cstu]

I'd go with Harvin - he's a beast to bring down.

 

[TheWick]

RK PLAYER TEAM REC TAR YDS AVG TD LONG 20+ YDS/G FUM YAC 1DN

1 Wes Welker, WR NE 122 172 1,569 12.9 9 99 21 98.1 0 732 77

2 Darren Sproles, RBNO 86 111 710 8.3 7 39 7 44.4 0 690 35

3 Ray Rice, RB BAL 76 104 704 9.3 3 52 7 44.0 0 677 30

4 Rob Gronkowski, TENE 90 124 1,327 14.7 17 52 22 82.9 0 656 69

5 Arian Foster, RBHOU 53 71 617 11.6 2 78 9 47.5 1 635 19

6 Victor Cruz, WR NYG 82 131 1,536 18.7 9 99 25 96.0 1 595 59

7 Percy Harvin, WRMIN 87 123 967 11.1 6 52 14 60.4 2 537 45

8 Calvin Johnson, WRDET 96 158 1,681 17.5 16 73 32 105.1 1 524 77

9 Aaron Hernandez, TENE 79 113 910 11.5 7 46 12 65.0 1 519 46

10 Jonathan Stewart, RBCAR 47 61 413 8.8 1 26 4 25.8 0 508 18

 

[TheWick]

Well that sucked. Welker had the most YAC last year...the next best 2 WRs were Cruz, Harvin, and Calvin

 

[Tau837]

RK PLAYER TEAM REC TAR YDS AVG TD LONG 20+ YDS/G FUM YAC 1DN1 Wes Welker, WR NE 122 172 1,569 12.9 9 99 21 98.1 0 732 772 Darren Sproles, RBNO 86 111 710 8.3 7 39 7 44.4 0 690 353 Ray Rice, RB BAL 76 104 704 9.3 3 52 7 44.0 0 677 304 Rob Gronkowski, TENE 90 124 1,327 14.7 17 52 22 82.9 0 656 695 Arian Foster, RBHOU 53 71 617 11.6 2 78 9 47.5 1 635 196 Victor Cruz, WR NYG 82 131 1,536 18.7 9 99 25 96.0 1 595 597 Percy Harvin, WRMIN 87 123 967 11.1 6 52 14 60.4 2 537 458 Calvin Johnson, WRDET 96 158 1,681 17.5 16 73 32 105.1 1 524 779 Aaron Hernandez, TENE 79 113 910 11.5 7 46 12 65.0 1 519 4610 Jonathan Stewart, RBCAR 47 61 413 8.8 1 26 4 25.8 0 508 18

IMO just looking at total YAC is misleading, since it is a function of the number of catches and thus targets. PFF's top 10 in YAC/reception in 2011:1 Naaman Roosevelt 9.32 Preston Parker 7.93 Julio Jones 7.84 Randall Cobb 7.74 James Jones 7.76 Victor Cruz 7.37 Percy Harvin 7.18 Emmanuel Sanders 7.09 Mike Wallace 6.810 Deion Branch 6.7Harvin, James Jones, and Wallace are the only ones who repeated in the top 10 from 2010. Wallace was lower than the other two in both seasons, and IMO Jones benefits more from the offense around him than Harvin does (more threats for the defense, Rodgers at QB).So I'll say Harvin.

 

[DansRams]

Hard to think anyone is actually better than Julio...maybe as good, but not better.

 

[boubucarow]

RK PLAYER TEAM REC TAR YDS AVG TD LONG 20+ YDS/G FUM YAC 1DN1 Wes Welker, WR NE 122 172 1,569 12.9 9 99 21 98.1 0 732 772 Darren Sproles, RBNO 86 111 710 8.3 7 39 7 44.4 0 690 353 Ray Rice, RB BAL 76 104 704 9.3 3 52 7 44.0 0 677 304 Rob Gronkowski, TENE 90 124 1,327 14.7 17 52 22 82.9 0 656 695 Arian Foster, RBHOU 53 71 617 11.6 2 78 9 47.5 1 635 196 Victor Cruz, WR NYG 82 131 1,536 18.7 9 99 25 96.0 1 595 597 Percy Harvin, WRMIN 87 123 967 11.1 6 52 14 60.4 2 537 458 Calvin Johnson, WRDET 96 158 1,681 17.5 16 73 32 105.1 1 524 779 Aaron Hernandez, TENE 79 113 910 11.5 7 46 12 65.0 1 519 4610 Jonathan Stewart, RBCAR 47 61 413 8.8 1 26 4 25.8 0 508 18

IMO just looking at total YAC is misleading, since it is a function of the number of catches and thus targets. PFF's top 10 in YAC/reception in 2011:1 Naaman Roosevelt 9.32 Preston Parker 7.93 Julio Jones 7.84 Randall Cobb 7.74 James Jones 7.76 Victor Cruz 7.37 Percy Harvin 7.18 Emmanuel Sanders 7.09 Mike Wallace 6.810 Deion Branch 6.7Harvin, James Jones, and Wallace are the only ones who repeated in the top 10 from 2010. Wallace was lower than the other two in both seasons, and IMO Jones benefits more from the offense around him than Harvin does (more threats for the defense, Rodgers at QB).So I'll say Harvin.

While it is a better view, YAC per reception still leaves a lot to be desired. Plenty of YAC is untouched.

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

RK PLAYER TEAM REC TAR YDS AVG TD LONG 20+ YDS/G FUM YAC 1DN1 Wes Welker, WR NE 122 172 1,569 12.9 9 99 21 98.1 0 732 772 Darren Sproles, RBNO 86 111 710 8.3 7 39 7 44.4 0 690 353 Ray Rice, RB BAL 76 104 704 9.3 3 52 7 44.0 0 677 304 Rob Gronkowski, TENE 90 124 1,327 14.7 17 52 22 82.9 0 656 695 Arian Foster, RBHOU 53 71 617 11.6 2 78 9 47.5 1 635 196 Victor Cruz, WR NYG 82 131 1,536 18.7 9 99 25 96.0 1 595 597 Percy Harvin, WRMIN 87 123 967 11.1 6 52 14 60.4 2 537 458 Calvin Johnson, WRDET 96 158 1,681 17.5 16 73 32 105.1 1 524 779 Aaron Hernandez, TENE 79 113 910 11.5 7 46 12 65.0 1 519 4610 Jonathan Stewart, RBCAR 47 61 413 8.8 1 26 4 25.8 0 508 18

IMO just looking at total YAC is misleading, since it is a function of the number of catches and thus targets. PFF's top 10 in YAC/reception in 2011:1 Naaman Roosevelt 9.32 Preston Parker 7.93 Julio Jones 7.84 Randall Cobb 7.74 James Jones 7.76 Victor Cruz 7.37 Percy Harvin 7.18 Emmanuel Sanders 7.09 Mike Wallace 6.810 Deion Branch 6.7Harvin, James Jones, and Wallace are the only ones who repeated in the top 10 from 2010. Wallace was lower than the other two in both seasons, and IMO Jones benefits more from the offense around him than Harvin does (more threats for the defense, Rodgers at QB).So I'll say Harvin.

While it is a better view, YAC per reception still leaves a lot to be desired. Plenty of YAC is untouched.

Also guys that get a lot of end zone targets (ie Calvin) are getting their yac/r skewed downwards.

 

[Zimm]

I would say Cruz or Julio.

 

[FavreCo]

Brandon Marshall. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q52pUl8vZM There is no one better after the catch and in traffic.

He's the only WR I have seen that consistently goes towards the ball as it is coming at him. It gets him the separation from the DB that way. His moves after the catch are amazing but also end up with a fumble here or there. I'll also bet he is taking his eye off the ball preparing to make a move before he has caught the pass. Thus a lot of drops.

 

[Manster]

Honestly, I think I would go with Brandon Marshall as my #1, with Dez Bryant a close #2 and Harvin #3who do you guys think has the best combination of speed, strength, burst, tackle breaking ability and elusiveness after the catch?

Not sure about Dez near the top, yet. He soon could be for sure. But, he's got a long way to go. Sometimes he takes too many unneccessary hits as he's fighting off tacklers. Dont get me wrong, I love to see a guy with grit. Sometimes you just go down to keep yourself from getting killed.If he learns when to do what, he'll be a force.

 

[Gachi]

Megatron can catch anything over anyone, but I think I'd go with Percy Harvin after the catch or maybe Welker.

 

[One More Rep]

I am going Julio here also

 

[FF Ninja]

Steve Smith and Percy Harvin are pretty good after the catch.

Steve Smith gets my vote, but Harvin is a great pick, too.Long TDs skew YAC numbers to the point where they really don't mean much if anything when taken in context of this question. You'd really have to find some stats on missed tackles/rec and yards after contact/rec to be able to get a good feel for this one.

 

[FF Ninja]

here's 4 tough yards after contact http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26JBONuB5i8

 

[Banemorth]

Cruz and it always seems like Jordy Nelson is a tough guy to bring down.

 

[Skeletore Eh]

Julio and Steve smith would be my choices

 

[Chazzhawk]

In his prime it was Steve Smith and I don't know if anyone was close, right now I would go with Harvin, Jones, and Cruz

 

[gandalas]

Bit of a pick, but Little definitely showed a lot of potential in this area last year, especially considering what he had to work with. I cnat tell you how many times he caught the ball 1 yard beyond the LOS only to wiggle forward for the first down. Maybe with a little better ball placement this year, he can show his true skill.

 

[whatadai]

Bit of a pick, but Little definitely showed a lot of potential in this area last year, especially considering what he had to work with. I cnat tell you how many times he caught the ball 1 yard beyond the LOS only to wiggle forward for the first down. Maybe with a little better ball placement this year, he can show his true skill.

Cleveland got a first down last year?

 

[BWill]

Bit of a pick, but Little definitely showed a lot of potential in this area last year, especially considering what he had to work with. I cnat tell you how many times he caught the ball 1 yard beyond the LOS only to wiggle forward for the first down. Maybe with a little better ball placement this year, he can show his true skill.

Cleveland got a first down last year?

Lol CMON MANNNNN (Chris Berman voice)

 

[loose circuits]

My 1st reaction was Greg Jennings and Miles Austin

 

[Cookiemonster]

I was going to bring up Miles Austin. Good shot lc. He seems forgotten because of last year. Steve Smith and Calvin are close behind. Calvin has to catch a lot of high balls because of his size, and gets walloped quite often for his efforts but when he gets to catch and run, he has a very strong stiff arm that hits defenders from like, 8 feet away! And you're not going to see him caught from behind. Megatron is very underrated after the catch. Dez Bryant seems overrated. How hard can it be to catch (and tackle) a guy who wears his belt just above his knees?

 

[N Zone]

Percy Harvin is the best WR after the catch.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

Wow, love the responses so far:

seems the list consists of:

Brandon Marshall

Julio Jones

Steve Smith Car

Miles Austin

Percy Harvin

Wes Welker

Greg Jennings

Calvin Johnson

Greg Little

Jordy Nelson

Dez Bryant

....looks like this needs to be changed to a poll! lol

 

[Warrior]

Welker probably gets too much credit here. He catches everything just past the line of scrimmage and has all kinds of room before anyone closes in on him. Same with Harvin. What impresses me when considering YAC are the guys who catch the ball a little deeper and can still break tackles and juke out tacklers, not the ones getting 3-4 free yards every time to pad the stats.

 

[massraider]

Harvin.

Real impressed with Marshalls ability to turn a 5 yard catch into a 9 yard catch, but I will go with Harvin.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

22 votes and really no clear winner so far... interesting. I guess there's so many contrasting styles that its tough to say just one.

 

[whatadai]

Voted for Cruz, but thought Demaryius Thomas deserves a honorable mention.

 

[Blackjacks]

I really think Dwayne Bowe should be on this list.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Percy Harvin, Steve Smith, and Devin Hester are the three that came to mind before reading the thread. Miles Austin is also a good one that I didn't think of.

I think YAC stats are nearly worthless here without controlling for what patterns different WRs run, and how open they end up.

 

[whatadai]

Percy Harvin, Steve Smith, and Devin Hester are the three that came to mind before reading the thread. Miles Austin is also a good one that I didn't think of.

I think YAC stats are nearly worthless here without controlling for what patterns different WRs run, and how open they end up.

LOLWUT?

 

[jurb26]

Marshall is the choice for me. As others have pointed out, many of the names that seem to come to mind for people create a lot of their YAC by catching shorter passes in space.

Marshall is a beast to bring down all over the field IMO. He's got the strength and power of TO but slightly better agility and speed.

 

[NJ]

Brandon Marshall. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9q52pUl8vZM There is no one better after the catch and in traffic.

He's the only WR I have seen that consistently goes towards the ball as it is coming at him. It gets him the separation from the DB that way. His moves after the catch are amazing but also end up with a fumble here or there. I'll also bet he is taking his eye off the ball preparing to make a move before he has caught the pass. Thus a lot of drops.

Jesus, I have to admit I don't think I've ever really owned Marshall in any leagues so I haven't paid that close of attention, but that highlight reel is pretty sick. He's unbelievablly elusive after the catch, constantly makes guys miss, great spin move, crushing stiff arm, guy who's covering him rarely brings him down without help. He's got my vote now. This is what I hate about watching highlights, I just moved this guy up a couple of spots on my draft board.

 

[Mister CIA]

Well that sucked. Welker had the most YAC last year...the next best 2 WRs were Cruz, Harvin, and Calvin

Not if you count Harvin's 51 hand-offs as receptions.

 

[Ghost Rider]

Welker probably gets too much credit here. He catches everything just past the line of scrimmage and has all kinds of room before anyone closes in on him. Same with Harvin. What impresses me when considering YAC are the guys who catch the ball a little deeper and can still break tackles and juke out tacklers, not the ones getting 3-4 free yards every time to pad the stats.

Agreed.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Percy Harvin, Steve Smith, and Devin Hester are the three that came to mind before reading the thread. Miles Austin is also a good one that I didn't think of.

I think YAC stats are nearly worthless here without controlling for what patterns different WRs run, and how open they end up.

LOLWUT?

Hester isn't great at getting open and catching the ball, but once he does catch it, he can go the distance from anywhere.Example.

 

[unckeyherb]

Maybe I'm not reading this correctly or using the wrong criteria, but Desean Jackson not being listed as one of the best WRs in space, after the catch, is extremely troubling to me.

 

[unckeyherb]

Maybe I'm not reading this correctly or using the wrong criteria, but Desean Jackson not being listed as one of the best WRs in space, after the catch, is extremely troubling to me.

 

[whatadai]

Percy Harvin, Steve Smith, and Devin Hester are the three that came to mind before reading the thread. Miles Austin is also a good one that I didn't think of.

I think YAC stats are nearly worthless here without controlling for what patterns different WRs run, and how open they end up.

LOLWUT?

Hester isn't great at getting open and catching the ball, but once he does catch it, he can go the distance from anywhere.Example.

You can find one highlight like that on any WR. Plus...that was some damn good blocking...great blocking by the other WR, he had an offensive lineman in front of him 30 yards from the LOS and a blocking FB in front of him 35-40 yards from the LOS, and the DB that should have made the tackle at the beginning of the play slipped and fell like a herp derp.

 

[wiscstlatlmia]

Maybe I'm not reading this correctly or using the wrong criteria, but Desean Jackson not being listed as one of the best WRs in space, after the catch, is extremely troubling to me.

LOL wow, how did nobody mention him yet! lol, were slipping folks lol

 

[jamil]

Show me another receiver that can do this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26JBONuB5i8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

[eakfootball]

Cruz or Marshall

 

[eakfootball]

And Fitzgerald needs to be a poll option

 

[cstu]

Maybe I'm not reading this correctly or using the wrong criteria, but Desean Jackson not being listed as one of the best WRs in space, after the catch, is extremely troubling to me.

LOL wow, how did nobody mention him yet! lol, were slipping folks lol

He's not that good after the catch - only 247 out of 961 yards last year. In 2010 it was 353 out of 1056.

 

[cstu]

In 2010 Eddie Royal had a ridiculous 381 of his 627 yards (61%) after the catch.