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Who is the rb to own in ARZ? (1 Viewer)

None. The Cards don't run well or often, and there will likely be two or more guys getting pieces of the already meager "pie."

No one worth even a waiver priority / big bid in standard sized redraft leagues, IMO.

 
'Coeur de Lion said:
None. The Cards don't run well or often, and there will likely be two or more guys getting pieces of the already meager "pie."No one worth even a waiver priority / big bid in standard sized redraft leagues, IMO.
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:goodposting: Stay far away from AZ RBs unless your league gives points for negative running plays and lack of carries.
 
Powell.

ESPN's Adam Schefter stated on SportsCenter Wednesday that William Powell will "likely" get the first crack at replacing Ryan Williams as the Cardinals' lead ball carrier.

"Unfamiliar name right now to some people," Schefter said of Powell, "but he did lead the NFL in rushing this preseason, and there's a buzz in the Cardinals' organization about him. The players believe he can do it. He'll have to prove he can during the regular season. But there are some people in the Cardinals' organization who believe Powell can get the job done for Arizona."
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Powell will likely get the first shot at the job and maybe he can make chicken salad or lemonade with it but the outlook is not very good for any Arizona RB right now.

 
G-king said larod took all the starter snaps when news of williams to IR broke. Wonder if powell was still recovering from the head injury

 
'Chaka said:
Powell will likely get the first shot at the job and maybe he can make chicken salad or lemonade with it but the outlook is not very good for any Arizona RB right now.
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Powell. The best of sleepers come after a mass of doubters
 
Beanie. When he gets off the inseason IR his seat will be nice and warm and defenses will be getting tired and beat up. If he's not healthy by then... ughh.

 
It is almost as bad as the Lions running backs, I would say none. If you have to pick one I think it is Beanie Wells later this year for redrafts. Dynasty who the hell knows.

 
I'll second LSH. He's small but he produces well when in there. He should get a bump in touches now. Also, in return yardage leagues he returns kick offs. But he is hurt right now too...

Disclaimer: This is in no way an endorsement for any AZ running back.

 
From what I saw of Powell in the preseason, I think he might be really productive. Powell looked like a real find with vision and burst through the hole.

Of course, the OL will determine a lot here.

 
Tim Hightower also lives in Arizona. Jason LACanora reported this week that he should be healthy in 2 weeks. You have to know the Cards have been in touch with him. The fact they haven't picked up another back even for depth suggests they are waiting to see if he fully recovers. I personally think they are just biding their time with what they have until Hightower proves he is healthy at which point they will sign him and likely make him the starter until Beanie returns.

 
Added Powell w/a roster spot open... hoping he at least is a one week wonder w/Buffalo in town this Sunday, then right to the trade seen as bait. :shark:

 
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'gradin123 said:
Tim Hightower also lives in Arizona. Jason LACanora reported this week that he should be healthy in 2 weeks. You have to know the Cards have been in touch with him. The fact they haven't picked up another back even for depth suggests they are waiting to see if he fully recovers. I personally think they are just biding their time with what they have until Hightower proves he is healthy at which point they will sign him and likely make him the starter until Beanie returns.
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REALLY???? You conclude all of that from thin air....wowHow about this.....The Cards have no interest in a mediocre talent like Hightower coming off of a serious injury with recent complications. They haven't signed anyone because they a.) Are excited about seeing what they may have in Powell b.) Haven't had enough time to get a trade for Ivory done c.) Are working on getting Slaton in for a tryout d.) What ever other guess you might haveI get that we all have to take a logical guess in these situations, but I wouldn't hold my breath on your Hightower theory
 
'DansRams said:
'gradin123 said:
Tim Hightower also lives in Arizona. Jason LACanora reported this week that he should be healthy in 2 weeks. You have to know the Cards have been in touch with him. The fact they haven't picked up another back even for depth suggests they are waiting to see if he fully recovers. I personally think they are just biding their time with what they have until Hightower proves he is healthy at which point they will sign him and likely make him the starter until Beanie returns.
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REALLY???? You conclude all of that from thin air....wowHow about this.....The Cards have no interest in a mediocre talent like Hightower coming off of a serious injury with recent complications. They haven't signed anyone because they a.) Are excited about seeing what they may have in Powell b.) Haven't had enough time to get a trade for Ivory done c.) Are working on getting Slaton in for a tryout d.) What ever other guess you might haveI get that we all have to take a logical guess in these situations, but I wouldn't hold my breath on your Hightower theory
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It's not out of thin air.Jason LaCanfora tweetFor those who were asking about Tim Hightower before, sounds like he's 2 more weeks away from being healthy. I expect AZ to keep an eye out.
 
I'll go with the fbg crew............which is lsh. The idea is he'll apprise a poor mans sproles role. They view it as cards will have to go much more spread 3wr sets and get lsh more high potency space plays like sproles. Powell will likely get more rushes but lsh be more productive and especially in ppr/kick return leagues

 
'ninerfanatic492000 said:
I'll go with the fbg crew............which is lsh. The idea is he'll apprise a poor mans sproles role. They view it as cards will have to go much more spread 3wr sets and get lsh more high potency space plays like sproles. Powell will likely get more rushes but lsh be more productive and especially in ppr/kick return leagues
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FBG has them practically the same.
 
Picked up LSH, hoping for a good game against Buffalo, and then ship him to a RB-needy team for a low-end WR2/high-end WR3

 
'Chazzhawk said:
It is almost as bad as the Lions running backs, I would say none. If you have to pick one I think it is Beanie Wells later this year for redrafts. Dynasty who the hell knows.
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For dynasty, I think if they are in the playoff race later in the year, you could see Beanie get the job back and be the guy. For next year, the club holds an option on Beanie for around 1.1 million. Powell will be a RFA. If he shows anything the rest of the season, his tag would be 2-3 million. Williams is under contract for the next 2 years for 780k and 1 million. Unless Powell is exceptional, it's likely we could see the same mess we are seeing this year. So, if Powell is great, they would probably trade or release Beanie and go with Powell as the starter and Williams as the backup. If Powell is average or terrible, then it's probably a 2 or 3 headed RBBC next year. That means the ones with the most possible value next year are Beanie (on a different team) and Powell (as the starter on AZ). Williams looks like he's locked into, at best, a RBBC.
 
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I split the difference, have a few leagues that give minimal return yards pts, took LSH in those, took Powell in the rest.

 
I would vote for LSH. Powell looks like a below average plodder. Honestly if you have to rely on either of these guys, you are in trouble. Same goes for Vick Ballard.

 
LSH and Alfonso had their shots last year. I vote Powell simply b/c you already know the other two have nothing to offer.

 
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LSH is nice but at 5'7 185, noway he's featured all 3-downs. Alfonso Smith's proday he was 6'1 211, ran a 4.38 and 19 rep on the bench. Smith didn't do much in college but he does have the size/speed/little experience of the bunch. I'd bet on Smith to be the most relevant but with ARI o-line I probably won't waste my time here even facing the Bills, unless I was desperate or wanted to take a gamble with a open roster spot. Sounds like a true committee.

I don't think Donald Brown will lose his gig to Vick Ballard like some people think so I might cut Ballard close to Sunday for A. Smith, even though I own Brown in most of my leagues, to try and nab a starting RB.

 
'TwinTurbo said:
I would vote for LSH. Powell looks like a below average plodder. Honestly if you have to rely on either of these guys, you are in trouble. Same goes for Vick Ballard.
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You cannot have possibly ever watched him play much. He averaged almost 6 ypc in the preseason with a long of 67 and also averaged almost 11 ypc in his one year at Kansas State. Not only did he not look like even an average plodder, but those are certainly not the stats of a below average plodder. He may end up being below average, but plodder he is not.
 
'Hoosier16 said:
'TwinTurbo said:
I would vote for LSH. Powell looks like a below average plodder. Honestly if you have to rely on either of these guys, you are in trouble. Same goes for Vick Ballard.
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You cannot have possibly ever watched him play much. He averaged almost 6 ypc in the preseason with a long of 67 and also averaged almost 11 ypc in his one year at Kansas State. Not only did he not look like even an average plodder, but those are certainly not the stats of a below average plodder. He may end up being below average, but plodder he is not.
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I laughed pretty hard when I read that. It was pretty obvious after watching Powell on his limited touches last week (4), before exiting with a head injury, that he was the best RB on their roster. If he had finished the game, this topic wouldn't even exist right now. Powell is the guy to own. LSH is a 5'7, 185 pound scat back. Powell is a 5'9, 205 pound three down back. He clearly has the most potential and it's not even close. The ARI organization also tends to agree.
 
I said Powell before the Thursday game they had in a MOP thread.

He was in on the no huddle O the week before that and it's not that he did well or anything (precious few carries). It was just very curious that he was always in. He led the NFL in preseason rushing and everything about him seems like his coach has confidence in him that's more than we've seen just yet.

Maybe they wanted to give him time to develop and it was about mandatory to let the pedigree of Williams roll. I don't know.

Now the better no-huddle back is probably LSH, but the vacancy is at the main RB spot.

Something real curious about Powell. It's worth sitting and waiting to see for FF.

 
'TwinTurbo said:
Honestly if you have to rely on either of these guys, you are in trouble.
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I sooo understand the sentiment here. However, Powell or LSH or both(if you're crazy enough on the WW) will put you in a spot to start a RB against a D that just allowed 621 yards of total offense. Chris Johnson owners would surely take the risk, but for FF folks with typical RB start decisions that 621 is glaring right in their eye.Since Kurt, Anquan, and Fitz days...this might be the first time everyone wants to start as many Cards as they can.
 
'Bri said:
I said Powell before the Thursday game they had in a MOP thread.

He was in on the no huddle O the week before that and it's not that he did well or anything (precious few carries). It was just very curious that he was always in. He led the NFL in preseason rushing and everything about him seems like his coach has confidence in him that's more than we've seen just yet.

Maybe they wanted to give him time to develop and it was about mandatory to let the pedigree of Williams roll. I don't know.

Now the better no-huddle back is probably LSH, but the vacancy is at the main RB spot.

Something real curious about Powell. It's worth sitting and waiting to see for FF.
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Ryan Williams never took any practice reps in the no-huddle.
 
Powell. Based on his competition and thiher injury history/ineffectiveness, I like Powell's situation. Any RB that can show some consistency and grit will be able to at least bring some respect for the ARZ running game. I'm not saying it's going to happen but if it were to happen and I had to bet, it'd bet on William Powell at this point.

 
'nyy45 said:
Powell. Based on his competition and thiher injury history/ineffectiveness, I like Powell's situation. Any RB that can show some consistency and grit will be able to at least bring some respect for the ARZ running game. I'm not saying it's going to happen but if it were to happen and I had to bet, it'd bet on William Powell at this point.
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Do you do know Powell only had 23 career carries in college due to injury right? You do know he pulled his hamstring doing his 40 yard dash on his pro day right? You do know he left last weeks game at halftime due to a head injury right?There are some things to like about Powell but you can't like him based on his injury history.
 
'Craig_MiamiFL said:
'Stealthycat said:
the answer is ... Kolb and Roberts and FitzgeraldI bet Kolb throws 50 times this week
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Luckly they're playing the Bills. They can pass or run all day on them. I think we'll see LSH getting a lot of snaps, just not a whole lot of carries.
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The bills run d isn't good but they have just played the 1st and 3rd ranked run teams in the NFL. They held the Browns to 33 total rush yards in week 3 so it is not a foregone conclusion the OL challanged Cards will be able to run on them. They also are coming off an all around embarrassing effort so they are bound to be more focused. Every week in the NFL is different.
 
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'therush said:
'BigSteelThrill said:
News: Powell (head) practiced fully Wednesday, the Cardinals' official site reports. (Wed Oct 10)
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Great news. Did he take the starter reps?
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Most likely.
ESPN's Adam Schefter stated on SportsCenter Wednesday that William Powell will "likely" get the first crack at replacing Ryan Williams as the Cardinals' lead ball carrier.

"Unfamiliar name right now to some people," Schefter said of Powell, "but he did lead the NFL in rushing this preseason, and there's a buzz in the Cardinals' organization about him. The players believe he can do it. He'll have to prove he can during the regular season. But there are some people in the Cardinals' organization who believe Powell can get the job done for Arizona."
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'Card Trader said:
'Coeur de Lion said:
None. The Cards don't run well or often, and there will likely be two or more guys getting pieces of the already meager "pie."No one worth even a waiver priority / big bid in standard sized redraft leagues, IMO.
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:goodposting: Stay far away from AZ RBs unless your league gives points for negative running plays and lack of carries.
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They play Buffalo this week. While the Arz running game is horrible long term, they are a viable option this week. Interested to determine who the guy to play is here
 
'TwinTurbo said:
I would vote for LSH. Powell looks like a below average plodder. Honestly if you have to rely on either of these guys, you are in trouble. Same goes for Vick Ballard.
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Do some research before posting such misinfo. Powell's pro day stats are practically identical to what Ryan William's were, pre-injury, of course.Know another potential sleeper out there who had dynamite combine stats just a few years ago, and MAY get a shot pretty soon? Cedric Peerman. Tied for fastest 10 yard split all time with a guy named Chris Johnson. YW.
 
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'DansRams said:
'gradin123 said:
Tim Hightower also lives in Arizona. Jason LACanora reported this week that he should be healthy in 2 weeks. You have to know the Cards have been in touch with him. The fact they haven't picked up another back even for depth suggests they are waiting to see if he fully recovers. I personally think they are just biding their time with what they have until Hightower proves he is healthy at which point they will sign him and likely make him the starter until Beanie returns.
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REALLY???? You conclude all of that from thin air....wowHow about this.....The Cards have no interest in a mediocre talent like Hightower coming off of a serious injury with recent complications. They haven't signed anyone because they a.) Are excited about seeing what they may have in Powell b.) Haven't had enough time to get a trade for Ivory done c.) Are working on getting Slaton in for a tryout d.) What ever other guess you might haveI get that we all have to take a logical guess in these situations, but I wouldn't hold my breath on your Hightower theory
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I live in Jersey, if Bradshaw gets hurt..watch out baby im in!!!
 
'Crazysight said:
'TwinTurbo said:
I would vote for LSH. Powell looks like a below average plodder. Honestly if you have to rely on either of these guys, you are in trouble. Same goes for Vick Ballard.
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Do some research before posting such misinfo. Powell's pro day stats are practically identical to what Ryan William's were, pre-injury, of course.Know another potential sleeper out there who had dynamite combine stats just a few years ago, and MAY get a shot pretty soon? Cedric Peerman. Tied for fastest 10 yard split all time with a guy named Chris Johnson. YW.
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What are you talking about? The previous poster didn't say word one about Ryan Williams or anyone's pro day stats. He said "Powell LOOKS like a below average plodder. That is his OPINION, therefore BY DEFINITION, not misinfo. For the record, relying on pro day stats/combine numbers rather than actually watching players play the game isn't always the best method of evaluating players.

 
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