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Three of the four posts have been saying Holt is the #1, and you don't even add him to the list?Make it 4 of 5 posts now, because I've got Holt at the top of my draft boards, too.
I read this in this forum every year, and every year he puts up top 5 numbers. FF is about consistency. Holt is the closest thing to a guaranteed 100 yds/1 TD per week that you will find. The word "overrated" shouldn't even be in the same sentence as Torry Holt.
Holt
After two down years, I'm not surprised. He also hasn't looked the same. But I agree inasmuch as I think Moss will surprise many this year.As for me, I still like Chad Johnson over the rest.
Give me a break.
Steve Smith really had no decent #2 WR while CJ has Houshmanzadeh and TO has Terry Glenn. For the record if Key had stayed a Cowboy I think people would have downgraded TO. In Carolina for the past two years (Smith in 05 and Muhammed in 04) there has been only one good reciever to hog all the targets. When Smith had a viable #2 with Muhammed in 03 he put up good but not elite numbers. I think its logical to think that Key will steal of Smith's production also factor in more of a rushing attack with addition of D. Williams for the Panthers.Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll said:I love all the caution to the wind on Keyshawn's impact on Steve Smith.
Randy Moss with Aaron Brooks throwing to him.....yechI like SS 1, Holt 2Dave Baker said:
and by a big margin IMO
Year Value Pos. Rank Overall Rank--------------------------------------------------1999 0 35 862000 90 7 172001 49 8 292002 36 15 442003 138 2 62004 70 7 192005 71 6 15This year, I figured they'd just blanket Smith. Now, it's a little tougher. Does Wayne help Harrison? I think Keyshawn helps him, but that's just me.Steve Smith really had no decent #2 WR while CJ has Houshmanzadeh and TO has Terry Glenn. For the record if Key had stayed a Cowboy I think people would have downgraded TO. In Carolina for the past two years (Smith in 05 and Muhammed in 04) there has been only one good reciever to hog all the targets. When Smith had a viable #2 with Muhammed in 03 he put up good but not elite numbers. I think its logical to think that Key will steal of Smith's production also factor in more of a rushing attack with addition of D. Williams for the Panthers.Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll said:I love all the caution to the wind on Keyshawn's impact on Steve Smith.
Honestly, I dont know why any choice is better than another. Unless you can forsee injury, youre essentially picking from 1a, 1b, 1c etc. If you really think taking Holt over SSmith or vice versa will make or break your season then: 
This is severly inaccurate posting.Again, 7 seasons 1 top 5 finish.TO is more prone to hit 100/1.Holt has never finished as WR1.Holt at WR1 = overrated.
Last I checked, consistancy also refers to reliablility: whether you can expect this guy to show up every week. Hence, I think injury, suspension, etc are all negative factors. Can you rely on TO? Nope. Can you rely on CJ? Well theres always a chance at a suspension with his mouth and the league's new celebration policy. Do you want to be that guy who ends up at Aaron Brooks' mercy?Its hard to single out someone from the SSmith, Fitzgerald, Holt category but it comes down to this. 7 season s from holt, only missed two games. And even with that he put up one of the best statistical seasons of his career. From a PPR standpoint, I dont know of a safer bet. 90+ receptions, 1300+ yards and ~8 TD's every year. You can count on him on the field and not to screw up off the field. One of the few quality players/people of our era.This is severly inaccurate posting.Again, 7 seasons 1 top 5 finish.TO is more prone to hit 100/1.Holt has never finished as WR1.Holt at WR1 = overrated.
The name Marrvin Harrison mean anything to you?Last I checked, consistancy also refers to reliablility: whether you can expect this guy to show up every week. Hence, I think injury, suspension, etc are all negative factors. Can you rely on TO? Nope. Can you rely on CJ? Well theres always a chance at a suspension with his mouth and the league's new celebration policy. Do you want to be that guy who ends up at Aaron Brooks' mercy?Its hard to single out someone from the SSmith, Fitzgerald, Holt category but it comes down to this. 7 season s from holt, only missed two games. And even with that he put up one of the best statistical seasons of his career. From a PPR standpoint, I dont know of a safer bet. 90+ receptions, 1300+ yards and ~8 TD's.This is severly inaccurate posting.Again, 7 seasons 1 top 5 finish.TO is more prone to hit 100/1.Holt has never finished as WR1.Holt at WR1 = overrated.
OK ... so who is that? TO?
Cant believe I left him out of the conversation. Another great pick that should have been there with Holt. Age may be a concern but that frankly has never been much of an issue. Still, I like Holt's upside. Youre looking at close to 120 receptons if he plays 16 games.EDIT: Im not vouching for him here, Im just saying that him being overated is a bit of an overstatement.The name Marrvin Harrison mean anything to you?Last I checked, consistancy also refers to reliablility: whether you can expect this guy to show up every week. Hence, I think injury, suspension, etc are all negative factors. Can you rely on TO? Nope. Can you rely on CJ? Well theres always a chance at a suspension with his mouth and the league's new celebration policy. Do you want to be that guy who ends up at Aaron Brooks' mercy?Its hard to single out someone from the SSmith, Fitzgerald, Holt category but it comes down to this. 7 season s from holt, only missed two games. And even with that he put up one of the best statistical seasons of his career. From a PPR standpoint, I dont know of a safer bet. 90+ receptions, 1300+ yards and ~8 TD's.This is severly inaccurate posting.Again, 7 seasons 1 top 5 finish.TO is more prone to hit 100/1.Holt has never finished as WR1.Holt at WR1 = overrated.
Marvin Harrison i think
Year Value Pos. Rank Overall Rank--------------------------------------------------2001 0 78 2632002 26 18 532003 91 3 112004 58 9 242005 84 4 11Loss of Palmer is a huge red flag at the moment though.
yup. funny how people take that for granted.
Please read this page and get back to me.http://www.nfl.com/stats/2003/regularThis is severly inaccurate posting.Again, 7 seasons 1 top 5 finish.
TO is more prone to hit 100/1.
Holt has never finished as WR1.
Holt at WR1 = overrated.
Nope, thanks for asking.
I'm with you, man. Aaron Brooks couldn't make a stud fantasy WR if his life depended on it.
actually if you look at the numbers in 2003 you will see something completely different then what you describe....if you look at when steve smith started to truly break out(week 5 of 2003) and then extrapolate those numbers out you will find that he did in fact put up what should/can be considered elite numbers....Steve Smith really had no decent #2 WR while CJ has Houshmanzadeh and TO has Terry Glenn. For the record if Key had stayed a Cowboy I think people would have downgraded TO. In Carolina for the past two years (Smith in 05 and Muhammed in 04) there has been only one good reciever to hog all the targets. When Smith had a viable #2 with Muhammed in 03 he put up good but not elite numbers. I think its logical to think that Key will steal of Smith's production also factor in more of a rushing attack with addition of D. Williams for the Panthers.Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll said:I love all the caution to the wind on Keyshawn's impact on Steve Smith.
If Keyshawn lined up next to TO or CJ, nobody would say a word.
