who is this year's Santonio Holmes (1 Viewer)

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every year there are a couple of WR who are under everyone's radar. players early in their careers who have the skill and opportunity to break out--not necessarily put top 10 numbers, but late round gems who become WR2/3 and crack your starting lineup week in and week out. Names like santonio holmes or brandon marshall come to mind (might not necessarily have been under the radar for those in the sharkpool, but you get my drift). greg jennings from a couple of years ago is another example. jacoby jones was hyped in past and i see many talking quietly about ted ginn in miami, especially with pennington in town now.

so, which WR do you drafting as a WR4/5 becoming your WR 2/3?

 

[Jeff Haseley]

Here's a few possibilities

1. Keary Colbert DEN

2. Ben Obomanu SEA

3. Justin Gage TEN

4. Marty Booker CHI (not young, but someone has to catch balls in CHI. Earl Bennett is another to watch)

5. Vincent Jackson SD

6. Muhsin Muhammad CAR (not a young WR, but he has potential value)

7. Bernard Berrian MIN

8. Laurent Robinson ATL

9. Chad Jackson NE

10. deep sleeper - Dane Looker STL

 

[Wyld Stallyns]

My three comparisons would be:

Vincent Jackson

Calvin Johnson

& Nate Burleson

 

[None_More_Black]

Sydney Rice.

 

[Bluefire]

Santonio Holmes is this year's Santonio Holmes.

 

[Andy Herron]

Steve Breaston might be one in Arizona.

If Packers rookie Jordy Nelson can get on the field (Driver, Jennings, Jones), he could be another.

I'm a little intrigued by him, and had a good showing last night.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Best Bets

Sidney Rice, MIN - He was only 20 when he was drafted, people! He is going to break out, maybe not this year, but it will happen eventually.

TJax knows that he'll butter his bread in the red zone.

Anthony Gonzalez, IND - do you believe in Marv? I don't. He was already a WR2 down the stretch last year

Laurent Robinson, ATL - kid has the physical talent to do it, and should have the opportunity.

Worth a Look

James Hardy, BUF - his game is pretty natural, especially in the red zone. He could easily have 8-10 TDs.

Steve Smith, NYG - If he's healthy, he will catch 70-80 balls. PPR special.

Robert Meachem, NO - Looking confident so far and will be a Colston/Shockey/Patten injury away from a bigger role in a top passing offense.

Ben Obomanu, Courtney Taylor, SEA - the tale of two Auburn WRs. Obomanu has more physical talent and upside, Taylor the more consistent game.

Long Shots

Derek Hagan, MIA - impressing in camp, and Pennington won't be able to harness Ginn's deep speed. Starter if the season began today.

Mark Clayton, BAL - Derrick Mason still looks like the #1, but Demetrius Williams can't stay healthy, and Clayton has more talent than he's shown so far in his career.

Drew Carter, OAK - Walker is crazy and can't get separation, someone has to go after Russell's deep balls. See Also: Higgins, Johnnie Lee

Eddie Royal, DEN - impressing everyone in camp, and might be a starter even after Marshall returns

Josh Morgan, SF - Apparently SF is going with their "third stringers to open camp start in week 1" plan right now (watch out Frank Gore, Thomas Clayton is on your heels )

 

[AtomicDogg97]

Nate Burleson

 

[Gold Plated Nails]

Vincent Jackson. Contract is comming up, he is by several accounts having the best camp as a Charger. I went to one practice and he was awesome. In the playoffs last season he went for 300 yards and 2 TDs.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Jackson is also a good call, as long as he continues catching the ball like he did in the playoffs - his hands finally looked natural once all the passes were above his head. He's a value at his current ADP no matter how you cut it, and this news that Gates is still in pain only helps.

 

[whodeywhodey]

Vincent Jackson. Contract is comming up, he is by several accounts having the best camp as a Charger. I went to one practice and he was awesome. In the playoffs last season he went for 300 yards and 2 TDs.

Jackson is also a good call, as long as he continues catching the ball like he did in the playoffs - his hands finally looked natural once all the passes were above his head. He's a value at his current ADP no matter how you cut it, and this news that Gates is still in pain only helps.

Very

 

[travdogg]

Mark Clayton, BAL - Derrick Mason still looks like the #1, but Demetrius Williams can't stay healthy, and Clayton has more talent than he's shown so far in his career.

I'll agree with this. He probably won't reach Holmes' level, but he's got a lot of upside and seems to have fallen off the radar.

 

[RBM]

Look out for Justin Gage

 

[The Ref]

Santonio Holmes is this year's Santonio Holmes.

LOL - exactly what I said to myself when I saw the thread.Rice and ARE are both vaule plays - but the Sea WR situation can provide some huge value if nobody else is paying attention.

 

[Polish Hammer]

Best Bets

Sidney Rice, MIN - He was only 20 when he was drafted, people! He is going to break out, maybe not this year, but it will happen eventually.

TJax knows that he'll butter his bread in the red zone.

Anthony Gonzalez, IND - do you believe in Marv? I don't. He was already a WR2 down the stretch last year

Laurent Robinson, ATL - kid has the physical talent to do it, and should have the opportunity.

Worth a Look

James Hardy, BUF - his game is pretty natural, especially in the red zone. He could easily have 8-10 TDs.

Steve Smith, NYG - If he's healthy, he will catch 70-80 balls. PPR special.

Robert Meachem, NO - Looking confident so far and will be a Colston/Shockey/Patten injury away from a bigger role in a top passing offense.

Ben Obomanu, Courtney Taylor, SEA - the tale of two Auburn WRs. Obomanu has more physical talent and upside, Taylor the more consistent game.

Long Shots

Derek Hagan, MIA - impressing in camp, and Pennington won't be able to harness Ginn's deep speed. Starter if the season began today.

Mark Clayton, BAL - Derrick Mason still looks like the #1, but Demetrius Williams can't stay healthy, and Clayton has more talent than he's shown so far in his career.

Drew Carter, OAK - Walker is crazy and can't get separation, someone has to go after Russell's deep balls. See Also: Higgins, Johnnie Lee

Eddie Royal, DEN - impressing everyone in camp, and might be a starter even after Marshall returns

Josh Morgan, SF - Apparently SF is going with their "third stringers to open camp start in week 1" plan right now (watch out Frank Gore, Thomas Clayton is on your heels )

:bookmark:

 

[EBF]

Opportunity opportunity opportunity. One thing that guys like Bowe, Holmes, Roddy, and Engram had in common was opportunity. If we're looking for surprise breakout WRs, we should look around the league and find teams with open starting jobs or new starters. That's a good place to start. Possibilities:

Buffalo - WR2

Miami - WR1, WR2

Ravens - WR2

Jaguars - WR1, WR2

Titans - WR1, WR2

Broncos - WR2

Chiefs - WR2

Raiders - WR1, WR2

Bears - WR1, WR2

Lions - WR2

Vikings - WR1, WR2

Falcons - WR2

Panthers - WR2

Saints - WR2

Buccaneers - WR2

Rams - WR2

49ers - WR1, WR2

Seahawks - WR1, WR2

These are the obvious situations that could produce a breakout WR without needing an injury to a starter. Now look at the list and identify the candidates for each of these slots:

Buffalo - WR2 - Hardy

Miami - WR1, WR2 - Hagan, Ginn

Ravens - WR2 - Clayton, Williams

Jaguars - WR1, WR2 - Williams, Porter

Titans - WR1, WR2 -

Broncos - WR2 - Jackson, Royal

Chiefs - WR2 - Darling

Raiders - WR1, WR2 - Curry, Walker

Bears - WR1, WR2 - Booker, Hester, Bradley, Bennett

Lions - WR2 - Calvin

Vikings - WR1, WR2 - Rice, Berrian

Falcons - WR2 - Robinson

Panthers - WR2 - Jarrett, Muhammad, Hackett

Saints - WR2 - Meachem, Patten

Buccaneers - WR2 - Bryant, Clayton

Rams - WR2 - Bennett, Avery

49ers - WR1, WR2 - Bruce, Johnson, Battle

Seahawks - WR1, WR2 - Burleson, Taylor, Obomanu

That's a pretty good sleeper WR list to draft from. One way to potentially narrow the field is to consider which of these guys have some evidence that suggests a breakout. Breakouts rarely happen "out of nowhere" like Colston's. More often than not there are at least a few hints. For example, I don't consider Santonio's breakout a surprise. He had over 500 receiving yards in the second half of his rookie year. Bowe was a high pick rookie entering a situation with no clear quality WR1 (Boldin, Clayton redux). Engram had been very productive on a PPG basis before getting hurt in 2006. If you looked closely, you could see these breakouts coming. These guys seem like the most ideal candidates for 2008:

Isaac Bruce - The crafty veteran who knows the system. He's the best WR on the roster. Martz knows how to use him.

Sidney Rice - Seemed to make at least one great catch every week last year. With a competent QB, he's a serious threat for 1,000 yards. Is Jackson competent?

Calvin Johnson - Of the guys on this list, he's the closest thing to Holmes: a first round pick who had a solid rookie year.

Laurent Robinson - He's been gimped by injuries lately and there might not be enough targets to go around, but he was handed the WR2 job pretty early and it's entirely possible that he's better than Roddy White.

Nate Burleson - Solid player in a system that turns solid players into top 20 WRs. Book him.

Derek Hagan/Ted Ginn - One of these guys will win the WR1 job and threaten the 1,000 yard barrier by default.

 

[Golden]

Why don't you believe in Marvin?

Best Bets

Sidney Rice, MIN - He was only 20 when he was drafted, people! He is going to break out, maybe not this year, but it will happen eventually.

TJax knows that he'll butter his bread in the red zone.

Anthony Gonzalez, IND - do you believe in Marv? I don't. He was already a WR2 down the stretch last year

Laurent Robinson, ATL - kid has the physical talent to do it, and should have the opportunity.

Worth a Look

James Hardy, BUF - his game is pretty natural, especially in the red zone. He could easily have 8-10 TDs.

Steve Smith, NYG - If he's healthy, he will catch 70-80 balls. PPR special.

Robert Meachem, NO - Looking confident so far and will be a Colston/Shockey/Patten injury away from a bigger role in a top passing offense.

Ben Obomanu, Courtney Taylor, SEA - the tale of two Auburn WRs. Obomanu has more physical talent and upside, Taylor the more consistent game.

Long Shots

Derek Hagan, MIA - impressing in camp, and Pennington won't be able to harness Ginn's deep speed. Starter if the season began today.

Mark Clayton, BAL - Derrick Mason still looks like the #1, but Demetrius Williams can't stay healthy, and Clayton has more talent than he's shown so far in his career.

Drew Carter, OAK - Walker is crazy and can't get separation, someone has to go after Russell's deep balls. See Also: Higgins, Johnnie Lee

Eddie Royal, DEN - impressing everyone in camp, and might be a starter even after Marshall returns

Josh Morgan, SF - Apparently SF is going with their "third stringers to open camp start in week 1" plan right now (watch out Frank Gore, Thomas Clayton is on your heels )

 

[thecardiackid]

Opportunity opportunity opportunity. One thing that guys like Bowe, Holmes, Roddy, and Engram had in common was opportunity. If we're looking for surprise breakout WRs, we should look around the league and find teams with open starting jobs or new starters. That's a good place to start. Possibilities:Buffalo - WR2Miami - WR1, WR2Ravens - WR2Jaguars - WR1, WR2Titans - WR1, WR2Broncos - WR2Chiefs - WR2Raiders - WR1, WR2Bears - WR1, WR2Lions - WR2Vikings - WR1, WR2Falcons - WR2Panthers - WR2Saints - WR2Buccaneers - WR2Rams - WR249ers - WR1, WR2Seahawks - WR1, WR2These are the obvious situations that could produce a breakout WR without needing an injury to a starter. Now look at the list and identify the candidates for each of these slots:Buffalo - WR2 - HardyMiami - WR1, WR2 - Hagan, GinnRavens - WR2 - Clayton, WilliamsJaguars - WR1, WR2 - Williams, PorterTitans - WR1, WR2 - Broncos - WR2 - Jackson, RoyalChiefs - WR2 - DarlingRaiders - WR1, WR2 - Curry, WalkerBears - WR1, WR2 - Booker, Hester, Bradley, BennettLions - WR2 - CalvinVikings - WR1, WR2 - Rice, BerrianFalcons - WR2 - RobinsonPanthers - WR2 - Jarrett, Muhammad, HackettSaints - WR2 - Meachem, PattenBuccaneers - WR2 - Bryant, ClaytonRams - WR2 - Bennett, Avery49ers - WR1, WR2 - Bruce, Johnson, BattleSeahawks - WR1, WR2 - Burleson, Taylor, ObomanuThat's a pretty good sleeper WR list to draft from. One way to potentially narrow the field is to consider which of these guys have some evidence that suggests a breakout. Breakouts rarely happen "out of nowhere" like Colston's. More often than not there are at least a few hints. For example, I don't consider Santonio's breakout a surprise. He had over 500 receiving yards in the second half of his rookie year. Bowe was a high pick rookie entering a situation with no clear quality WR1 (Boldin, Clayton redux). Engram had been very productive on a PPG basis before getting hurt in 2006. If you looked closely, you could see these breakouts coming. These guys seem like the most ideal candidates for 2008:Isaac Bruce - The crafty veteran who knows the system. He's the best WR on the roster. Martz knows how to use him. Sidney Rice - Seemed to make at least one great catch every week last year. With a competent QB, he's a serious threat for 1,000 yards. Is Jackson competent? Calvin Johnson - Of the guys on this list, he's the closest thing to Holmes: a first round pick who had a solid rookie year.Laurent Robinson - He's been gimped by injuries lately and there might not be enough targets to go around, but he was handed the WR2 job pretty early and it's entirely possible that he's better than Roddy White. Nate Burleson - Solid player in a system that turns solid players into top 20 WRs. Book him.Derek Hagan/Ted Ginn - One of these guys will win the WR1 job and threaten the 1,000 yard barrier by default.

all aroundI'd add these to the list.NE - WR2 Gaffney/Jackson (assuming one takes over vs. a WR2BC)NYG - WR2/3 Steve SmithSD - WR2 V Jax (if he continues his late season development and Chambers gets more attention from Defenses)HOU - WR2 K Walter / A Davis / J Jones (in that order - whoever wins the job should benefit from AJ and Daniels spreading the field)

 

[PahtyTom]

Laurent Robinson - He's been gimped by injuries lately and there might not be enough targets to go around, but he was handed the WR2 job pretty early and it's entirely possible that he's better than Roddy White.

 

[zamboni]

Vincent Jackson. Contract is comming up, he is by several accounts having the best camp as a Charger. I went to one practice and he was awesome. In the playoffs last season he went for 300 yards and 2 TDs.

Jackson is also a good call, as long as he continues catching the ball like he did in the playoffs - his hands finally looked natural once all the passes were above his head. He's a value at his current ADP no matter how you cut it, and this news that Gates is still in pain only helps.

Very

All this talk about Vincent Jackson, but I think that Chambers is destined to be more of the go-to receiver that could surprise on the upside.Chambers obviously is well known having been around for some time, but I think could have a very nice season in a potent Chargers offense where prime receiving threat Gates is still hobbling.

 

[Tanner9919]

Best Bets

Sidney Rice, MIN - He was only 20 when he was drafted, people! He is going to break out, maybe not this year, but it will happen eventually.

TJax knows that he'll butter his bread in the red zone.

Anthony Gonzalez, IND - do you believe in Marv? I don't. He was already a WR2 down the stretch last year

Laurent Robinson, ATL - kid has the physical talent to do it, and should have the opportunity.

Worth a Look

James Hardy, BUF - his game is pretty natural, especially in the red zone. He could easily have 8-10 TDs.

Steve Smith, NYG - If he's healthy, he will catch 70-80 balls. PPR special.

Robert Meachem, NO - Looking confident so far and will be a Colston/Shockey/Patten injury away from a bigger role in a top passing offense.

Ben Obomanu, Courtney Taylor, SEA - the tale of two Auburn WRs. Obomanu has more physical talent and upside, Taylor the more consistent game.

Long Shots

Derek Hagan, MIA - impressing in camp, and Pennington won't be able to harness Ginn's deep speed. Starter if the season began today.

Mark Clayton, BAL - Derrick Mason still looks like the #1, but Demetrius Williams can't stay healthy, and Clayton has more talent than he's shown so far in his career.

Drew Carter, OAK - Walker is crazy and can't get separation, someone has to go after Russell's deep balls. See Also: Higgins, Johnnie Lee

Eddie Royal, DEN - impressing everyone in camp, and might be a starter even after Marshall returns

Josh Morgan, SF - Apparently SF is going with their "third stringers to open camp start in week 1" plan right now (watch out Frank Gore, Thomas Clayton is on your heels )

I've been saying the same things about Steve Smith ( NYG), only I think he could catch 85-90 balls this season, esp if Plax's ankle keeps acting up! No Shockey, Toomer is too old, and Smith had a terrific post season last year..



Meachem looks like Mike Williams, v2.0, i.e., s-l-o-w

love the Hagan pick!

I'll add James Jones, GB..that kid looks like he's going to breakout this season, in a big way..

not a believer in Sidney Rice, his QB is atrocious

Any WR named Clayton seems to be `propped up `every year in preseason, and neither have delivered..I doubt that either one will deliver in '08..

I would not pick any player on the SF Niners squad this season..they are going to be the worst team in football in '08..

Jacoby Jones - huge upside..Andre Johnson cannot stay healthy, he's practicing on a limited basis right now, and probably won't see much preseason action..once the season rolls around you know he'll miss a few games , as he always does, so Jones has a chance to step up..

 

[JaxBill]

More of a long shot, but any word out of Tampa about Dexter Jackson from App State?

Galloway has groin concerns. Hilliard and Bryant aren't getting any younger. Clayton had one good year.

 

[jurb26]

Ted Ginn

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Why don't you believe in Marvin?

Just the way everything went last year - the Colts kept him on the roster all year and he came back to catch a couple of passes vs SD, but was really a non-factor. I would love to see him come back and be the Marv of old, but Im worried that the pilot light went out last year.

 

[twitch]

I dont know how many looks he'll get because his team's WR corp is solid and deep. But this guy was drafted in the 1st round, plays in a prolific passing offense without a reliable ground attack, and will have a consistently reliable Pro Bowler throwing him the ball. Robert Meacham in New Orleans. That guy may be the steal of steals this season.

 

[abhall]

Why don't you believe in Marvin?

Just the way everything went last year - the Colts kept him on the roster all year and he came back to catch a couple of passes vs SD, but was really a non-factor. I would love to see him come back and be the Marv of old, but Im worried that the pilot light went out last year.

He'll be 36 when the season starts. Very few receivers have had a success when reaching this age. Galloway, Rod Smith, and a few others have had some, but statistics & probability state it's unlikely.

 

[twitch]

Why don't you believe in Marvin?

Just the way everything went last year - the Colts kept him on the roster all year and he came back to catch a couple of passes vs SD, but was really a non-factor. I would love to see him come back and be the Marv of old, but Im worried that the pilot light went out last year.

He'll be 36 when the season starts. Very few receivers have had a success when reaching this age. Galloway, Rod Smith, and a few others have had some, but statistics & probability state it's unlikely.

I appreciate that statistical logic. But few receivers have ever caught 143 balls in a season or been consistently brilliant enough to have 8 straight years of over 1000yds and double digit TDs. I do agree that falling in line with statistical player patterns is a sound approach to forecasting. But its important to recognize the exception to the rule. Harrison is one of those guys you just dont write off because of one down year, despite his age.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

I like Obomanu, Gage, L Robinson, S Smith and J Jones to all take big steps forward this season.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

I feel like Arnaz Battle is flying under the radar. Seems like the slot WR in Martz offense typically does well. I don't think he can be the next Holmes though.

Sticking to the topic, I like Calvin Johnson and Cotchery to end up having big seasons and break out this year in a big way.

 

[TheDirtyWord]

Laurent Robinson - He's been gimped by injuries lately and there might not be enough targets to go around, but he was handed the WR2 job pretty early and it's entirely possible that he's better than Roddy White.

I know this is all opinion, but Roddy White has really come along. Robinson is not close to White right now....

 

[Real Man of Genius]

 

[amnesiac]

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[Golden]

Why don't you believe in Marvin?

Just the way everything went last year - the Colts kept him on the roster all year and he came back to catch a couple of passes vs SD, but was really a non-factor. I would love to see him come back and be the Marv of old, but Im worried that the pilot light went out last year.

He'll be 36 when the season starts. Very few receivers have had a success when reaching this age. Galloway, Rod Smith, and a few others have had some, but statistics & probability state it's unlikely.

But Marvin is not like other WR's. He is great and has a great QB. Rice's career stats show a similar injury year and then 5 or 6 more productive years.

 

[eric rymer]

These are a few I have my eye on.

1. James Jones

2. Sidney Rice

3. Robert Meachum

4. Steve Smith NYG

 

[The_U]

Best Bets

Sidney Rice, MIN - He was only 20 when he was drafted, people! He is going to break out, maybe not this year, but it will happen eventually.

TJax knows that he'll butter his bread in the red zone.

Anthony Gonzalez, IND - do you believe in Marv? I don't. He was already a WR2 down the stretch last year

Laurent Robinson, ATL - kid has the physical talent to do it, and should have the opportunity.

Worth a Look

James Hardy, BUF - his game is pretty natural, especially in the red zone. He could easily have 8-10 TDs.

Steve Smith, NYG - If he's healthy, he will catch 70-80 balls. PPR special.

Robert Meachem, NO - Looking confident so far and will be a Colston/Shockey/Patten injury away from a bigger role in a top passing offense.

Ben Obomanu, Courtney Taylor, SEA - the tale of two Auburn WRs. Obomanu has more physical talent and upside, Taylor the more consistent game.

Long Shots

Derek Hagan, MIA - impressing in camp, and Pennington won't be able to harness Ginn's deep speed. Starter if the season began today.

Mark Clayton, BAL - Derrick Mason still looks like the #1, but Demetrius Williams can't stay healthy, and Clayton has more talent than he's shown so far in his career.

Drew Carter, OAK - Walker is crazy and can't get separation, someone has to go after Russell's deep balls. See Also: Higgins, Johnnie Lee

Eddie Royal, DEN - impressing everyone in camp, and might be a starter even after Marshall returns

Josh Morgan, SF - Apparently SF is going with their "third stringers to open camp start in week 1" plan right now (watch out Frank Gore, Thomas Clayton is on your heels )

I've been saying the same things about Steve Smith ( NYG), only I think he could catch 85-90 balls this season, esp if Plax's ankle keeps acting up! No Shockey, Toomer is too old, and Smith had a terrific post season last year..



Meachem looks like Mike Williams, v2.0, i.e., s-l-o-w

Robert Meachem looks slow? Are you sure you have the right Robert Meachem???

 

[davearm]

Give me David Patten over Meachem. ADP is similar.

Some of my targets:

Kevin Walter

Steve Smith

Justin Gage

Mark Clayton

Bryant Johnson

 

[texasheat]

I feel like Arnaz Battle is flying under the radar. Seems like the slot WR in Martz offense typically does well. I don't think he can be the next Holmes though.

Sticking to the topic, I like Calvin Johnson and Cotchery to end up having big seasons and break out this year in a big way.

Cotch caught 82 for 1129 last year Holmes caught 52 for 942

:(

sure Holmes saw the end zone more, but they are not very far apart at all. You could just as easily make a case for Holmes being the next Cotchery.

 

[Bl Deep]

I like hester this year... Have a feeling they are going to use him like a reggie bush in the offense... Give me the explosive player in a situation to be the #1 guy...

he's getting paid to be a #1 wr

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Best Bets

Sidney Rice, MIN - He was only 20 when he was drafted, people! He is going to break out, maybe not this year, but it will happen eventually.

TJax knows that he'll butter his bread in the red zone.

Anthony Gonzalez, IND - do you believe in Marv? I don't. He was already a WR2 down the stretch last year

Laurent Robinson, ATL - kid has the physical talent to do it, and should have the opportunity.

Worth a Look

James Hardy, BUF - his game is pretty natural, especially in the red zone. He could easily have 8-10 TDs.

Steve Smith, NYG - If he's healthy, he will catch 70-80 balls. PPR special.

Robert Meachem, NO - Looking confident so far and will be a Colston/Shockey/Patten injury away from a bigger role in a top passing offense.

Ben Obomanu, Courtney Taylor, SEA - the tale of two Auburn WRs. Obomanu has more physical talent and upside, Taylor the more consistent game.

Long Shots

Derek Hagan, MIA - impressing in camp, and Pennington won't be able to harness Ginn's deep speed. Starter if the season began today.

Mark Clayton, BAL - Derrick Mason still looks like the #1, but Demetrius Williams can't stay healthy, and Clayton has more talent than he's shown so far in his career.

Drew Carter, OAK - Walker is crazy and can't get separation, someone has to go after Russell's deep balls. See Also: Higgins, Johnnie Lee

Eddie Royal, DEN - impressing everyone in camp, and might be a starter even after Marshall returns

Josh Morgan, SF - Apparently SF is going with their "third stringers to open camp start in week 1" plan right now (watch out Frank Gore, Thomas Clayton is on your heels )

I've been saying the same things about Steve Smith ( NYG), only I think he could catch 85-90 balls this season, esp if Plax's ankle keeps acting up! No Shockey, Toomer is too old, and Smith had a terrific post season last year..



Meachem looks like Mike Williams, v2.0, i.e., s-l-o-w

Robert Meachem looks slow? Are you sure you have the right Robert Meachem???

Honestly, when I watched that TD catch and run of his, I had the same feeling. It just didn't look as good as I thought it should have.

 

[travdogg]

Honestly, when I watched that TD catch and run of his, I had the same feeling. It just didn't look as good as I thought it should have.

Agreed on that Meachem TD. That's not a TD against a 1st team defense, hell it might not even be more than a 20 yard gain. Pretty much half of the players on the field when that happened will be cut.The problem with Meachem is right now he's what the 6th option in that passing game, and at best he'll be the 4th option. I don't see a whole lot of upside there, he's basically the Saints version of Chad Jackson in that there is a lot of hype and none of it is logical.

 

[skycriesmary]

 

[Dodge]

I like S.Rice and J.Gage myself.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

The problem with Meachem is right now he's what the 6th option in that passing game, and at best he'll be the 4th option. I don't see a whole lot of upside there, he's basically the Saints version of Chad Jackson in that there is a lot of hype and none of it is logical.

Except, unlike Chad Jackson, he made plays in the first preseason game. Jackson blew his shot. Meachem's problem is not ability, it's confidence. Now he's getting some. I'm not a huge fan of his, but it doesn't take much for a WR to put up numbers in that offense. He could play a souped up Devery Henderson role - and Henderson had good enough numbers to be WR34 in 13 games back in 06 - and that's not even with any injuries to Colston, Patten, or Shockey - and what are the chances all of them play 16 games?

 

[themanbeast9]

Here's my top 3 young WR's with a lot of upside:

1. Sydney Rice

2. Steve Smith (NYG)

3. Vincent Jackson

Big Time Sleepers:

1. Mike Walker (JAX)

2. Ben Obamadu (BAL)

3. Derek Hagan

 

[TitusIII]

Devin Hester, Anthony Gonzales, Chad Jackson...

 

[The Ref]

Here's my top 3 young WR's with a lot of upside:2. Steve Smith (NYG)

Steve Smiths name is here 99 times - what the heck am I missing?

 

[hauser42]

Robert Meachem: Saints throw the ball a ton and WR2 will get enought chances to make an impact.

Arnaz Battle: He plays for Martz. His value will mostly come from you can get him late in the draft and could be a decent 3WR in the lineup if he wins it.

Ron Curry: Raiders will have to throw the ball when behind and lot of his points will come at garbage time when team is trying to comeback.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

I will echo James Jones from above. He just looks like a star in wait to me.

 

[davearm]

Robert Meachem: Saints throw the ball a ton and WR2 will get enought chances to make an impact.Arnaz Battle: He plays for Martz. His value will mostly come from you can get him late in the draft and could be a decent 3WR in the lineup if he wins it.Ron Curry: Raiders will have to throw the ball when behind and lot of his points will come at garbage time when team is trying to comeback.

As for Meachem: I'm totally sold that the Saints' WR2 represents strong value. Just not sold that Meachem is that guy. My hunch is it's Patten.As for Curry: having to throw the ball, and actually being successful throwing the ball are two different things. I'm not a big believer in Russell at this point.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Ted Ginn