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Who will be Houston's Starting RB week 1? (1 Viewer)
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switz
Footballguy
I'm a big Morency fan, I think he's the "better" RB, but I think Lundy gets the start first.
Franknbeans
Footballguy
Based on what? Just wondering. I read that Morency is the better blocker but other than that they're pretty even.
switz
Footballguy
HoustnChronicle said Morency was supposed to get the start last night... but Lundy got it. Now is Kubiak pulling a Shanny, and Morency is the starter, but Kubby is holding his cards close to his vest? Maybe. But reality is that Lundy has gotten the vast majority of work with the first team in the preseason, so I'm "guessing" he is the starter.
i too like morency better BUT if you watched the game last night and have monitored the situation closely you start to notice that lundy is Kub's guy.
Comb-Over Charlie
aka Juggernaut
Lord knows Houston doesn't need any more blocking.
Raiders Fan
The Black Hole
Its going to be RBBC.. neither should have much value but the goalline back will have a slight edge which seems like Morency.
Traders2001
Footballguy
The answer is so easy , Lundi played the whole first half yesterday ( in the most important game of pre season )
So you know what Lumdy starts and stays , MOrency will spell once in a while but if Lundi plays well it s is job.
So you know what Lumdy starts and stays , MOrency will spell once in a while but if Lundi plays well it s is job.
Traders2001
Footballguy
Ah Ah Ah Ah , you are probably a Morency owner ....
Hahaha yeah right, he's trying to keep his unproven rookie fresh for the regular season.
Franknbeans
Footballguy
if you watched last night what you would have seen what has happened all year long. after all the rbbc talk and that they'll split time blah blah blah, lundy gets all the 1st string touches and no one wants to see it.
he played all first half against the DEN 1st team Def. When morency got in the 2nd Half he only had a series against the DEN 1st team and only a couple of series' with his own first team Off.
it seems pretty clear to me with Houston as a whole Kubiak is playing the young guys and which he'll continue throughout the regular season. he isn't playing for this year he is trying to get his team ready for 2007.
he played all first half against the DEN 1st team Def. When morency got in the 2nd Half he only had a series against the DEN 1st team and only a couple of series' with his own first team Off.
it seems pretty clear to me with Houston as a whole Kubiak is playing the young guys and which he'll continue throughout the regular season. he isn't playing for this year he is trying to get his team ready for 2007.
Raiders Fan
The Black Hole
A little too early for predicting a winner.. These are both unprovens.. He could be seeing what each other has. We should know soon..
mightyeskimo
Footballguy
Morency's the better blocker and he's faster than Lundy. The only thing going for Lundy over Morency is Kubiak drafted him. That might turn out to be all he needs though if Kubiak just wants "his guys" to play. Personally, I don't think we really know what they're going to do. Don't forget that Morency missed some practice last week. Maybe his leg was still bothering him so Lundy got the start. Maybe a healthy Morency gets the lion's share of the carries since he can actually pick up a blitz and Lundy can't. Then again, maybe Lundy is the starter because Kubiak saw something in him when he drafted him and wants the kid to learn by playing.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
I hate to call that idea "stupid" but I will call it "not well thought out." At best, you are engaging in wishful thinking.Held his unproven player out of the ENTIRE first half, but played him against scrubs in the second? Wali is the guy - NOT morency.
TheLaw
Footballguy
Where was all this #### before my draft last night!?!
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
PROVE that statement - you can't about the blocking.Morency blew blocking assignments last year in the preseason - against a VERY good pass rush from the Donkeys, Lundi picked up every blitzer he was responsible for.As for speed, I'd say they are comparable - Lundi certainly blew the socks off his opponents last weekend.
Warhogs
Footballguy
I do own Lundy and Morency on one team and just Morency on another. It seems to me that Lundy would be the guy starting in week1 if DD is not ready. As stated above, he started the game last night and played the whole first half with the starting unit. I am not prepared to guess who is better long term or who will start long term but if I had to bet my money right now, I would say that Lundy will be the week 1 starter.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
And now you are REALLY off base - at least based on the brfonco game. You have these two players confused if you think it was Lundi missing blitzers last night
Big Score
Footballguy
I'd be surprised to see Kubiak go with only RB's Lundy & Taylor familar with the offense and then some other teams cast off RB.Guess it could happen though. 
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
Isn't that usually the OL's job?
ydub
Footballguy
Morency's the better blocker? According to whom? There isn't enough game tape on either of these guys to determine which is the superior blocker. However, based on last night's performance here are my observations: Lundy was letter perfect with his assignments, gave consistent effort, and I don't care what their listed weight is...he's the bigger back (which gives him a stronger foundation for blocking purposes). On the other hand, Morency played "Toro!" later in the evening which nearly ended Sage Rosenfel's night early. Complete whiff. Remember, this is all about "what have you done for me lately?". Well, Lundy's done more....lately.
And..."Maybe his leg was still bothering him so Lundy got the start. Maybe a healthy Morency gets the lion's share of the carries"?
This is completely illogical and borderline delusional. If Morency is healthy enough to play, he's healthy enough to start. Period. He didn't and he hasn't. Therefore, the proof is in the pudding and the eye of the beholder is beginning to go blind.
traderkirk
Footballguy
I wonder if we can now assign some kind of value to the "my guy" phenomenon.
Perhaps it is just a statistical anomoly, but it seems to me that coaches and GMs are putting a lot of stock in their players they have scouted and evaluated versus those inherited from previous (and by definition failed) regimes.
I can think of three right now where this dynamic is (or has) played out: Lundy v. Morancy, Jones v. Benson and Gore v. Barlow. I wonder if some of this is taking place in WAS with Betts and Duckett too.
If this is a trend, then it would seem easier to pick winners in these battles, just pick the guy whom the current regime took and you'd be right more often then not.
Perhaps it is just a statistical anomoly, but it seems to me that coaches and GMs are putting a lot of stock in their players they have scouted and evaluated versus those inherited from previous (and by definition failed) regimes.
I can think of three right now where this dynamic is (or has) played out: Lundy v. Morancy, Jones v. Benson and Gore v. Barlow. I wonder if some of this is taking place in WAS with Betts and Duckett too.
If this is a trend, then it would seem easier to pick winners in these battles, just pick the guy whom the current regime took and you'd be right more often then not.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
No - it is USUALLY the RB's job (or the FB's job) to pick up the blitzer. It's a blitz b/c there is one more pass rushing defender than offensive linemen. Either way, Lundi is (so far) MUCH better in the pass game than Morency, so . . . .
yellowdog
Footballguy
Why the hell would it be wishful thinking? I told you I have both on my roster. I was just throwing it out there as a possibility. Kubiak went to the school of Shanny thinking. Anything is possible.
Marc Levin
Hangs out with Oscar Zeta Acosta
Shanahan would never entertain such a stupid idea - I won't start my unproven and injured back and pull him early - instead, I'll play him in the 2nd half???????Against guys looking to put a sting on a player in order to try and make the team???NOT a well thought out idea.FYI, I got Morency in the 10th round in my 12 man/12 round league. The 12 man roster does affect the drafting somewhat; you can likely get him later in a 14-16 position roster league.
I took Morency first as he was the most recognized player and got Luni at Round 12 and he was a write in.
My league is mostly sharks with 2-3 guys who do a poor job.
I would not have DD on the roster if you gave him to me at 12. I'll drop one of the others as soon as the situation (hopefully) is clarified in regular season.
I took Morency first as he was the most recognized player and got Luni at Round 12 and he was a write in.
My league is mostly sharks with 2-3 guys who do a poor job.
I would not have DD on the roster if you gave him to me at 12. I'll drop one of the others as soon as the situation (hopefully) is clarified in regular season.
I drafted Morency as RB5 in the 12th round (16team league) Sun morning based on the glowing reviews and then Sun night I watch as Lundy runs the whole 1st half. Maybe it's buyers remorse but I'm wishing I had Lundy now. He went in the next round.
For Morency owners Lundy did have a fumble.
For Lundy owners Morency blew a blitz pick up and Sage got crushed.
For Morency owners Lundy did have a fumble.
For Lundy owners Morency blew a blitz pick up and Sage got crushed.
TankRizzo
Footballguy
Yeah, I don't know how you can read much else into this. Before the game we heard Kubiak would be running RBBC like he would during the regular season and he turns around and gives all of the carries to Lundy. Morency in turn comes out and averages < 3ypc.
Franknbeans
Footballguy
so is Lundy a fumbler?
Bluestaples
Footballguy
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Footballguy
I could have swore I saw Lundy fumble the ball twice last night, bot times recovered by the Texans. The one that bounced 10 yards near the goalline was the overtly obvious one. However, I think he fumbled earlier than that as he was getting tackled, with one of his OL jumping on top of it.
Those who believe Morency and Lundy's speed to be comparable were watching a different game than me. Morency looked lots faster to the hole...the problem looked like he wasn't being patient enough for the play to develop.
Those who believe Morency and Lundy's speed to be comparable were watching a different game than me. Morency looked lots faster to the hole...the problem looked like he wasn't being patient enough for the play to develop.
