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Who will be the Browns 2025 Week 1 Starting QB? (3 Viewers)

Who will be the Browns 2025 Week 1 Starting QB?


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Browns put themselves in an interesting position. It’s not really typical that teams carry 3 QBs on the active roster. But it seems that’s almost certainly where it’s heading. Have to think that Watson ends up on IR.

That means you’re either carrying a 4th QB on the practice squad (doubtful) or cutting one outright. What are the odds they’d cut a 3rd round rookie QB or Sanders? Very low right? So one of Flacco/Pickett likely will get cut, which is interesting because it seems split about 50/50 here as to one of those guys starting.

IMO, Pickett has never shown me he is NFL starter material, and if he does show that he can be a mediocre starter, it might make it harder for one of the rookies to break through. So that leads me to lean towards Flacco as the guy who temporarily holds down that starting role until one of the rookies takes over at some point later in the season.
 
Strange how people say they all suck, but none would get to the practice squad. I also find it funny that people will take the time to tell you what they don't know. ("I don't know what the Browns are doing, but they totally suck!")
 
They won't be able to sneak either rookie onto the practice squad,
Gabriel might, which makes the pick all the more frustrating.
After 32 teams passed on him for 4+ rounds what makes anyone think Sanders is a higher PS risk than Gabriel? If another team claims Sanders off the Browns PS they have to put him on the 53 man roster and unless he blows everyone away in the summer that's just not happening.
 
They won't be able to sneak either rookie onto the practice squad,
Gabriel might, which makes the pick all the more frustrating.
After 32 teams passed on him for 4+ rounds what makes anyone think Sanders is a higher PS risk than Gabriel? If another team claims Sanders off the Browns PS they have to put him on the 53 man roster and unless he blows everyone away in the summer that's just not happening.
The point is if Sanders does over the next 4 months what he didn't do over the last 4 months, then he won't slip through to the PS. If his next 4 months are a sequel to what was just experienced, then no one's gonna be interested in wasting their time on him.
 
Actually think Flacco is the correct answer. With this many QBs I'm not sure any of the young guys get enough reps to be ready to start.
 
They won't be able to sneak either rookie onto the practice squad,
Gabriel might, which makes the pick all the more frustrating.
After 32 teams passed on him for 4+ rounds what makes anyone think Sanders is a higher PS risk than Gabriel? If another team claims Sanders off the Browns PS they have to put him on the 53 man roster and unless he blows everyone away in the summer that's just not happening.
The point is if Sanders does over the next 4 months what he didn't do over the last 4 months, then he won't slip through to the PS. If his next 4 months are a sequel to what was just experienced, then no one's gonna be interested in wasting their time on him.
Sure, but if he's already viewed by the league as a backup QB, regardless of the stupidity he showed in the draft process, why would they be worried about putting him on the PS and having him poached by a team that then needs to put him on the active roster?
 
They won't be able to sneak either rookie onto the practice squad,
Gabriel might, which makes the pick all the more frustrating.
After 32 teams passed on him for 4+ rounds what makes anyone think Sanders is a higher PS risk than Gabriel? If another team claims Sanders off the Browns PS they have to put him on the 53 man roster and unless he blows everyone away in the summer that's just not happening.
The point is if Sanders does over the next 4 months what he didn't do over the last 4 months, then he won't slip through to the PS. If his next 4 months are a sequel to what was just experienced, then no one's gonna be interested in wasting their time on him.
Sure, but if he's already viewed by the league as a backup QB, regardless of the stupidity he showed in the draft process, why would they be worried about putting him on the PS and having him poached by a team that then needs to put him on the active roster?
Seemingly a pick forced by the owner, I doubt he will allow them to send him to the practice squad if that was actually the case. Feel bad for Stefanski who I think is a good coach. I doubt he wanted this circus to start the offseason.
 
They won't be able to sneak either rookie onto the practice squad,
Gabriel might, which makes the pick all the more frustrating.
After 32 teams passed on him for 4+ rounds what makes anyone think Sanders is a higher PS risk than Gabriel? If another team claims Sanders off the Browns PS they have to put him on the 53 man roster and unless he blows everyone away in the summer that's just not happening.
The point is if Sanders does over the next 4 months what he didn't do over the last 4 months, then he won't slip through to the PS. If his next 4 months are a sequel to what was just experienced, then no one's gonna be interested in wasting their time on him.
Sure, but if he's already viewed by the league as a backup QB, regardless of the stupidity he showed in the draft process, why would they be worried about putting him on the PS and having him poached by a team that then needs to put him on the active roster?
I may not have the capacity to articulate the why for a few days, but Tl;Dr I don't think it's safe to assume the league views him as a backup.
 
Most of the draft wrap-up stories I've read seem to say that Gabriel was the target & Sanders was the afterthought. Kinda suggests that DG could well be the starter!
 
Flacco is not going to be the starting QB Week 1
I don't think he would sign for under $4M guaranteed if they told him he's the starter.
Flacco has embraced being a back up that can enter the game or come in right off the bench and give teams a lift but he's proven he should not be starting week in week out

Flacco might be the least likely to start Week 1 IMO
He's not 30 years old, He's 40!!!
 
They won't be able to sneak either rookie onto the practice squad,
Gabriel might, which makes the pick all the more frustrating.
After 32 teams passed on him for 4+ rounds what makes anyone think Sanders is a higher PS risk than Gabriel? If another team claims Sanders off the Browns PS they have to put him on the 53 man roster and unless he blows everyone away in the summer that's just not happening.
This is a good question

-You know how you keep passing on certain players again and again at the Draft but then at a certain point you feel like you have nothing to lose by taking them?
I think NFL teams didn't want to invest much in him after meeting him or watching how he handled the process
But you stick him on a PS and they can simply poach him for almost nothing?
I would bet a lot of money that several teams would run to the podium to pluck him immediately, risk vs reward is easy to see at that point

Just offering up a POV on why teams would poach
 
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Flacco is not going to be the starting QB Week 1
I don't think he would sign for under $4M guaranteed if they told him he's the starter.
Flacco has embraced being a back up that can enter the game or come in right off the bench and give teams a lift but he's proven he should not be starting week in week out

Flacco might be the least likely to start Week 1 IMO
He's not 30 years old, He's 40!!!
Well, maybe. The plusses for Flacco include running Stefanski's offense successfully in the past. The offense they attempted in 2024 is being scrapped. None of the other three can say that, though there's time for someone new to learn, I suppose, and I couldn't tell you if Pickett ran something similar in the past. I think it's safe to say they certainly had some sort of plan/understanding before signing him. It's a healthy undertaking, getting all 4 up to speed, and I'm not sure they anticipated this scenario.
 
Flacco is not going to be the starting QB Week 1
I don't think he would sign for under $4M guaranteed if they told him he's the starter.
Flacco has embraced being a back up that can enter the game or come in right off the bench and give teams a lift but he's proven he should not be starting week in week out

Flacco might be the least likely to start Week 1 IMO
He's not 30 years old, He's 40!!!
My thinking Joe starts week one is far less about thinking he’s a starting caliber QB and more about the others being worse.
 
the stars are aligning for shadeur to end up a very good QB.

the hate in this thread is off the charts (for all the qbs)... You'd never know the Browns had a fantasy WR1 and TE1 last season.
 
the stars are aligning for shadeur to end up a very good QB.

the hate in this thread is off the charts (for all the qbs)... You'd never know the Browns had a fantasy WR1 and TE1 last season.
Is Winston a good QB or just good for his receivers in FF?
Turning the entire room over is a sure sign that even they know FF isn’t the same as the real league.
 
the stars are aligning for shadeur to end up a very good QB.

the hate in this thread is off the charts (for all the qbs)... You'd never know the Browns had a fantasy WR1 and TE1 last season.
Is Winston a good QB or just good for his receivers in FF?
Turning the entire room over is a sure sign that even they know FF isn’t the same as the real league.

Of course it's not the same.
I'll stick w what I said tho... Flacco to start and either thru injury or play, Shadeur comes in by midseason
 
the stars are aligning for shadeur to end up a very good QB.

the hate in this thread is off the charts (for all the qbs)... You'd never know the Browns had a fantasy WR1 and TE1 last season.
Is Winston a good QB or just good for his receivers in FF?
Turning the entire room over is a sure sign that even they know FF isn’t the same as the real league.

Of course it's not the same.
I'll stick w what I said tho... Flacco to start and either thru injury or play, Shadeur comes in by midseason
We agree on the starting sequence. We’ll see if sanders is any good.
 
Most of the draft wrap-up stories I've read seem to say that Gabriel was the target & Sanders was the afterthought. Kinda suggests that DG could well be the starter!
I don't see how this can even be debated. They picked Gabriel in the 3rd and Sanders in the 5th. And i have a sneaking suspicion the coaching staff weren't the ones that picked Sanders (conjecture on my part, but not all that off-base trying to read between the lines). Every sign we have would point to Gabriel getting his chance first. Now, camp can certainly change that depending on what the battle to back up Flacco looks like, but writing off Gabriel and anointing Sanders seems off-base at this point.
 
the stars are aligning for shadeur to end up a very good QB.

the hate in this thread is off the charts (for all the qbs)... You'd never know the Browns had a fantasy WR1 and TE1 last season.
it's not hate
Apparently the entire NFL hated Sanders
Fan boy delusion can be a bit weird sometimes.

What I find fascinating is that some think Shedeur is going to magically change now and become this humble guy who puts his head down and goes to work. That is not who he is, and I don't believe being a 5th round pick, when he had convinced himself that he was a top 5 overall pick, is going to result in a transformation. He has shown the world over and over who he is; many of us believe what we have seen, including all of the NFL, which is why he was drafted as a backup, but some still are clinging to this fantasy that he is not what he has shown us over and over and over and over...
 
the stars are aligning for shadeur to end up a very good QB.

the hate in this thread is off the charts (for all the qbs)... You'd never know the Browns had a fantasy WR1 and TE1 last season.
it's not hate
Apparently the entire NFL hated Sanders
Fan boy delusion can be a bit weird sometimes.

What I find fascinating is that some think Shedeur is going to magically change now and become this humble guy who puts his head down and goes to work. That is not who he is, and I don't believe being a 5th round pick, when he had convinced himself that he was a top 5 overall pick, is going to result in a transformation. He has shown the world over and over who he is; many of us believe what we have seen, including all of the NFL, which is why he was drafted as a backup, but some still are clinging to this fantasy that he is not what he has shown us over and over and over and over...
Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if he does pan out to be a competent starter. Not a guy who puts the team on his back like Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, Joe, etc but like a Brock Purdy.
But I’m still betting against him starting long term.

The Browns lucked their way into a decent situation now. Most people have moved on from Watson, and these lottery picks just might pan out. If not, they have a couple of presumably high 2026 1sts to work with.
 
Pickett week one
Flacco week four
Gabriel week eight
Pickett week eleven
Flacco week fourteen
Sanders week seventeen

I like this except I think Flacco makes it to about week 13 when the Browns are eliminated from the playoffs and then Sanders or Gabriel finish the year.
 
Most of the draft wrap-up stories I've read seem to say that Gabriel was the target & Sanders was the afterthought. Kinda suggests that DG could well be the starter!
I don't see how this can even be debated. They picked Gabriel in the 3rd and Sanders in the 5th. And i have a sneaking suspicion the coaching staff weren't the ones that picked Sanders (conjecture on my part, but not all that off-base trying to read between the lines). Every sign we have would point to Gabriel getting his chance first. Now, camp can certainly change that depending on what the battle to back up Flacco looks like, but writing off Gabriel and anointing Sanders seems off-base at this point.
They over-drafted a potential long term backup they really like because they have no one under contract beyond this season in a weak draft class. It was a really, really, really dumb move. Totally get coveting a cost controlled backup, but pick a potential starter elsewhere in the 3rd then see what the board leaves for you day 3.
 
Pickett week one
Flacco week four
Gabriel week eight
Pickett week eleven
Flacco week fourteen
Sanders week seventeen
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-Watson end of the year to show everyone he's over the Achilles?
Can't see it. Sincerely doubt Watson throws another pass in the NFL. And absolutely no shot unless one of the rookies is bad enough to get flat cut, or a couple of them go on IR
Walks off the field in 2020 with an impressive 4,800 pass yds, 33 TD and just 7 Int...
Misses all of '21 and over half of '22. Only starts 6 game sin '23, was it the elbow or shoulder?
Misses another 10-11 games after tearing the achilles last year
Might not see the field at all in '25

Just 19 games over the last 5 seasons if you play '25 out. Incredible fall from the top of the mountain, the likes I've rarely ever seen.
 
Most of the draft wrap-up stories I've read seem to say that Gabriel was the target & Sanders was the afterthought. Kinda suggests that DG could well be the starter!
I don't see how this can even be debated. They picked Gabriel in the 3rd and Sanders in the 5th. And i have a sneaking suspicion the coaching staff weren't the ones that picked Sanders (conjecture on my part, but not all that off-base trying to read between the lines). Every sign we have would point to Gabriel getting his chance first. Now, camp can certainly change that depending on what the battle to back up Flacco looks like, but writing off Gabriel and anointing Sanders seems off-base at this point.
They over-drafted a potential long term backup they really like because they have no one under contract beyond this season in a weak draft class. It was a really, really, really dumb move. Totally get coveting a cost controlled backup, but pick a potential starter elsewhere in the 3rd then see what the board leaves for you day 3.
Sure, but the point remains. If they liked Sanders better he would have been picked earlier than Gabriel, but he wasn't. In my estimation this points to Gabriel being a player they liked, and a lot burning a third on him. You, me, and everyone else might think it's a reach, but where it matters, the actual team, he's someone they clearly made a point of drafting. Under these conditions i would pump the brakes on expecting Sanders to be anything other than the Browns QB4 to start the year, which right now is probably what he is (though ultimately Pickett feels like the odd man out). Ofcourse that could change, but at this moment Gabriel is the guy the staff wants.
 
Sure, but the point remains. If they liked Sanders better he would have been picked earlier than Gabriel, but he wasn't. In my estimation this points to Gabriel being a player they liked, and a lot burning a third on him. You, me, and everyone else might think it's a reach, but where it matters, the actual team, he's someone they clearly made a point of drafting. Under these conditions i would pump the brakes on expecting Sanders to be anything other than the Browns QB4 to start the year, which right now is probably what he is (though ultimately Pickett feels like the odd man out). Ofcourse that could change, but at this moment Gabriel is the guy the staff wants.
Strongly disagree. The NFL blows picks day 2 on QB every year. No cherry picking...

Will Levis
Hendon Hooker
Desmond Ridder
Malik Willis
Matt Corral
Kyle Trask
Kellen Mond
Davis Mills
Jalen Hurts
Drew Lock
Mason Rudolph
Deshone Kizer
Davis Webb
Christian Hackenberg
Jacoby Brissett
Cody Kessler

Those are all of the QB's picked day 2 over the last 10 years. 1 home run, several backups, and a bunch of duds. Their draft positioning meant something for very few of them, and none that fell to rd 3, once camp opened. We know what Gabriel is, we don't know what Shedeur is- that's the starting point going into 2025.
 
We know what Gabriel is, we don't know what Shedeur is-
And I'll disagree here. Regardless of those players you listed the team drafting liked him and I don't know how that can be an argument. We know Gabriel was a 3rd and we also know Sanders was a 5th. Past performance isn't indicative of future returns (though i agree Gabriel is likely is a backup at best, but so is Sanders).

I'm not arguing the validity of the picks, what I'm arguing is that Sanders isn't automatically better like people are suggesting. He's got plenty of flaws in his game too. He's not just a weak prospect because of attitude. My opinion and mine only, but that's my assessment after 3 seasons watching him play ball.
 
We know what Gabriel is, we don't know what Shedeur is-
And I'll disagree here. Regardless of those players you listed the team drafting liked him and I don't know how that can be an argument. We know Gabriel was a 3rd and we also know Sanders was a 5th. Past performance isn't indicative of future returns (though i agree Gabriel is likely is a backup at best, but so is Sanders).

I'm not arguing the validity of the picks, what I'm arguing is that Sanders isn't automatically better like people are suggesting. He's got plenty of flaws in his game too. He's not just a weak prospect because of attitude. My opinion and mine only, but that's my assessment after 3 seasons watching him play ball.
3 things:

#1 Neck-up matters more for a QB than talent
#2 Shedeur didn't fall to the 5th because of talent
#3 But he did fall to the 5th because he wasn't talented enough to overcome what he demonstrated neck-up
 
We know what Gabriel is, we don't know what Shedeur is-
And I'll disagree here. Regardless of those players you listed the team drafting liked him and I don't know how that can be an argument. We know Gabriel was a 3rd and we also know Sanders was a 5th. Past performance isn't indicative of future returns (though i agree Gabriel is likely is a backup at best, but so is Sanders).

I'm not arguing the validity of the picks, what I'm arguing is that Sanders isn't automatically better like people are suggesting. He's got plenty of flaws in his game too. He's not just a weak prospect because of attitude. My opinion and mine only, but that's my assessment after 3 seasons watching him play ball.
3 things:

#1 Neck-up matters more for a QB than talent
#2 Shedeur didn't fall to the 5th because of talent
#3 But he did fall to the 5th because he wasn't talented enough to overcome what he demonstrated neck-up
Agree. Third round talent in a down year at the position, penalized to the fifth due to attitude.

Edit. But it still doesn't change the fact that the team liked Gabriel more and he'll get an opportunity to prove them right imo
 
Who will be the Browns 2025 Week 1 Starting QB?
The only thing that matters is who will be the Browns starter in week 17 after things shake out.
If either of the rookies doesn't step up, then it effects the question of who will be the Browns starting QB week one of 2026?

I hear you long term. For now though as we're trying to project every yard for every player for the season, Week 1 matters to me ;)
 
I hear you long term. For now though as we're trying to project every yard for every player for the season, Week 1 matters to me ;)
The people have spoken with an overwhelming majority.
Joe with 73%
Joe makes sense in terms of familiarity with the offense and in terms of any chemistry carry over from two years ago but consider...
The first move the Browns made in revamping the QB room was to TRADE draft picks and a player for Kenny. I get why they made the move.
He fits the 12 personnel and run-heavy offense of Stefanski who loves a QB who protects the ball.
Protecting the ball is why they favored Dylan over Shedeur in the draft and why they moved-on from Jameis.
We haven't even had minicamp but if you look at, the first move, who fits the offense, and what was given up (Joe FA with vet minimum contract = nothing) at this point in time, it points to Kenny.
 
If I’m running the Browns Sanders doesn’t get a single rep with the first team. He’s buried on the depth chart all through camp and sent to the practice squad at cutdowns. If someone else claims him, fine, he only cost a 5th round pick. If he remains on the practice squad all year and acquits himself well, then maybe next year he gets a chance.
 
I hear you long term. For now though as we're trying to project every yard for every player for the season, Week 1 matters to me ;)
The people have spoken with an overwhelming majority.
Joe with 73%
Joe makes sense in terms of familiarity with the offense and in terms of any chemistry carry over from two years ago but consider...
The first move the Browns made in revamping the QB room was to TRADE draft picks and a player for Kenny. I get why they made the move.
He fits the 12 personnel and run-heavy offense of Stefanski who loves a QB who protects the ball.
Protecting the ball is why they favored Dylan over Shedeur in the draft and why they moved-on from Jameis.
We haven't even had minicamp but if you look at, the first move, who fits the offense, and what was given up (Joe FA with vet minimum contract = nothing) at this point in time, it points to Kenny.

Interesting. Thanks. If Pickett is the QB, how do you think he'll fare?

For the rookies, how do you think they play out this year?
 
If Pickett is the QB, how do you think he'll fare?
We knew who Jameis was because we had years of film. We 'pretty much' know who Kenny is. Pickett has been in the league for 3 years and has played in 30 games. He has 1 game where he's thrown for more than 300 yards. He has 1 game where he's thrown for more than 1 TD.
He hasn't shown much. If he starts, I have reason to not expect much.
For the rookies, how do you think they play out this year?
I was livid when they took Gabriel.
He's 5'10, 205 lbs and a lefty.
In a 12 personnel run-heavy offense the QB lines up in a Pro Set behind the center. Dylan is 5'10 which creates the same problem in Stefanski's offense that 6'0 Baker Mayfield had. Baker couldn't see as clearly and wasn't as effective when lined up under center. He thrived in the shotgun and is thriving in the gun in TB.
Dylan Gabriel has never lined up in a Pro Set under center for the same reason. Limited vision under center, wider vision in the Gun.
Couple his short stature with the fact he's a lefty which I covered in a different thread, so I'll cut-and-paste issues with lefthanded QBs.
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The interesting tidbit that no one has mentioned yet is that Dillion Gabriel is a lefty and that means the ball is rotating off his hand in the opposite direction of the other three QBs and in past NFL training camps that 'tends' to cause a higher percentage of drops when it hits the receiver's hands
Why Left-Handed Quarterbacks Are So Rare
...This paucity of left-handed quarterbacks is truly bizarre. Lefties make up around 10 percent of the population, but, according to ESPN’s stats department, there have been just 33 lefty QBs in the NFL since 1950...
... how lefties play the position. They tend to prefer to roll out to the left, for example, and throws to the right side of the field are more difficult for them. Cohn, who wrote a lengthy piece on the scarcity of lefty QBs, found a few examples of coaches who didn’t want to restructure their playbooks to cater to southpaws...
...And then there’s the matter of spin. When a receiver gets the ball from a right-handed quarterback, he’s catching a spiral that rotates counterclockwise; for lefties, it’s clockwise. This may not seem like a big deal, but wide receivers tend to be a fussy bunch. “Regardless of where I run on the field, unless I run an out to the right, the ball is always going to be spinning away from me,” Hall of Fame wideout Cris Carter told NFL Films. It’s a legitimate adjustment,

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In addition to everything listed above, coaches 'tend' to hate lefties because it means they have to reverse every play to the left side.
I'm completely baffled why they took the kid but the have said it was because he is careful with the football and that is the reason why they selected him over Shedeur.
Someone obviously loved his game so if/when it is time for the rookies, I think he'll get a shot but he's a poor fit for the offense IMHO.
Shedeur wasn't a legit 1st or high 2nd round pick but he definitely had the goods to go before Gabriel and fell to off-field issues that have been beaten to death.
If he avoids those issues, keeps his head down, works, and get the opportunity. I think he will be the starter by the end of the season. Lots of dominos have to fall before that happens.
My gut tells me he will be good if/when he plays but he has to EARN it.
 
Thanks @Bracie Smathers

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Nathan Zegura said Dillon Gabriel was the number two quarterback on the Browns board after Cam Ward.
He said Gabriel wins the way Kevin Stefanski wants his quarterback to win.
- Great decision maker
- Accurate from the pocket
- Can throw on the move from both directions
- Excellent pocket movement

Stefanski also told Zegura that, while they were watching the tape, the team kept asking, “Where does the height show up?”

The biggest knock against Gabriel is his height, which is listed at 5’11”. But his smaller stature didn’t prevent him from being the most productive quarterback in college football history.

Zegura said:

“If Dillon Gabriel is 6’3”, he probably is the number two [overall] pick in this draft.”


It’s crazy to think that four inches could be the only difference between being the number two pick in the draft and going late in the third round.

But if that’s truly the case, then the Browns got a legitimately talented quarterback at a serious value.
 
Sure, but the point remains. If they liked Sanders better he would have been picked earlier than Gabriel, but he wasn't. In my estimation this points to Gabriel being a player they liked, and a lot burning a third on him. You, me, and everyone else might think it's a reach, but where it matters, the actual team, he's someone they clearly made a point of drafting. Under these conditions i would pump the brakes on expecting Sanders to be anything other than the Browns QB4 to start the year, which right now is probably what he is (though ultimately Pickett feels like the odd man out). Ofcourse that could change, but at this moment Gabriel is the guy the staff wants.
Strongly disagree. The NFL blows picks day 2 on QB every year. No cherry picking...

Will Levis
Hendon Hooker
Desmond Ridder
Malik Willis
Matt Corral
Kyle Trask
Kellen Mond
Davis Mills
Jalen Hurts
Drew Lock
Mason Rudolph
Deshone Kizer
Davis Webb
Christian Hackenberg
Jacoby Brissett
Cody Kessler

Those are all of the QB's picked day 2 over the last 10 years. 1 home run, several backups, and a bunch of duds. Their draft positioning meant something for very few of them, and none that fell to rd 3, once camp opened. We know what Gabriel is, we don't know what Shedeur is- that's the starting point going into 2025.
Day 2 QBs hit at a rate much lower than Day 1 and also Day 3...you look around the NFL and most starting QBs came from the 1st round at one point or another
There are exceptions but by and large it's way over 50% 1st round QBs in the NFL
Jalen Hurts is one of the lone exceptions for Day 2
 
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... the way Kevin Stefanski wants his quarterback to win.
- Great decision maker
- Accurate from the pocket
- Can throw on the move from both directions
- Excellent pocket movement
You can make a case for Gabe; he was the most productive collegiate QB in this class because he played on three teams. After the draft people were baffled and some have gone to bat for him comparing him directly with Shedeur.
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Shedeur Sanders was under pressure on 168 dropbacks (most in college football).
- 41 sacks taken (most in draft class)
- 17 of 41 sacks attributed to Shedeur (41.5%)
- 44 total pressures were his fault (26.2%)
Dillon Gabriel was under pressure on just 96 dropbacks.
- 19 sacks taken (3rd-fewest in draft class)
- 7 of 19 sacks attributed to Gabriel (36.8%)
- 18 total pressures were his fault (18.8%)
Why is taking sacks so important to evaluate for college quarterbacks? In the NFL, a sack is almost always a drive killer. Once you're behind the sticks in the NFL, the odds of converting for a first down drop significantly.
Especially for the Browns, who ranked 27th in the NFL in 2024 with just 303 first downs on the season (only 10 more than the 32nd-ranked team).
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They got the above numbers from PFF who cranked numbers on both prospects prior to the draft.
One was ranked 9th out of this draft class and was projected as a 4th or 5th round pick.
The other was ranked 3rd with a 1st round grade who could go in the top 10.
2025 NFL Draft Scouting Report: QB Dillon Gabriel, Oregon
2025 NFL Draft Scouting Report: QB Shedeur Sanders, Colorado
 
I don't think Flacco even wants to start. $4m to put his 40 year old body out there for a sh!!!y team? He wants to hold a clipboard. And can't imagine CLE wants him to start either. Pickett starts, while Gabriel and Sanders try to impress in camp and preseason. And neither do so.
 
This should settle the debate in here...

Obviously the Browns want to surround Pickett and build around him
Did Johnson have problems in the locker room with Trubisky or Pickett? I remember the rumors, but nor which qb. Likely doesn't matter, dude was a cancer last season on good teams, let alone a bad one. Just curious
 

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