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After 32 teams passed on him for 4+ rounds what makes anyone think Sanders is a higher PS risk than Gabriel? If another team claims Sanders off the Browns PS they have to put him on the 53 man roster and unless he blows everyone away in the summer that's just not happening.
The point is if Sanders does over the next 4 months what he didn't do over the last 4 months, then he won't slip through to the PS. If his next 4 months are a sequel to what was just experienced, then no one's gonna be interested in wasting their time on him.
Sure, but if he's already viewed by the league as a backup QB, regardless of the stupidity he showed in the draft process, why would they be worried about putting him on the PS and having him poached by a team that then needs to put him on the active roster?
Seemingly a pick forced by the owner, I doubt he will allow them to send him to the practice squad if that was actually the case. Feel bad for Stefanski who I think is a good coach. I doubt he wanted this circus to start the offseason.
I may not have the capacity to articulate the why for a few days, but Tl;Dr I don't think it's safe to assume the league views him as a backup.
This is a good question
Well, maybe. The plusses for Flacco include running Stefanski's offense successfully in the past. The offense they attempted in 2024 is being scrapped. None of the other three can say that, though there's time for someone new to learn, I suppose, and I couldn't tell you if Pickett ran something similar in the past. I think it's safe to say they certainly had some sort of plan/understanding before signing him. It's a healthy undertaking, getting all 4 up to speed, and I'm not sure they anticipated this scenario.
My thinking Joe starts week one is far less about thinking he’s a starting caliber QB and more about the others being worse.
Is Winston a good QB or just good for his receivers in FF?
We agree on the starting sequence. We’ll see if sanders is any good.
I don't see how this can even be debated. They picked Gabriel in the 3rd and Sanders in the 5th. And i have a sneaking suspicion the coaching staff weren't the ones that picked Sanders (conjecture on my part, but not all that off-base trying to read between the lines). Every sign we have would point to Gabriel getting his chance first. Now, camp can certainly change that depending on what the battle to back up Flacco looks like, but writing off Gabriel and anointing Sanders seems off-base at this point.
it's not hate
Apparently the entire NFL hated Sanders
Fan boy delusion can be a bit weird sometimes.
Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if he does pan out to be a competent starter. Not a guy who puts the team on his back like Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, Joe, etc but like a Brock Purdy.
Can't see it. Sincerely doubt Watson throws another pass in the NFL. And absolutely no shot unless one of the rookies is bad enough to get flat cut, or a couple of them go on IR
They over-drafted a potential long term backup they really like because they have no one under contract beyond this season in a weak draft class. It was a really, really, really dumb move. Totally get coveting a cost controlled backup, but pick a potential starter elsewhere in the 3rd then see what the board leaves for you day 3.
Walks off the field in 2020 with an impressive 4,800 pass yds, 33 TD and just 7 Int...Can't see it. Sincerely doubt Watson throws another pass in the NFL. And absolutely no shot unless one of the rookies is bad enough to get flat cut, or a couple of them go on IR
Sure, but the point remains. If they liked Sanders better he would have been picked earlier than Gabriel, but he wasn't. In my estimation this points to Gabriel being a player they liked, and a lot burning a third on him. You, me, and everyone else might think it's a reach, but where it matters, the actual team, he's someone they clearly made a point of drafting. Under these conditions i would pump the brakes on expecting Sanders to be anything other than the Browns QB4 to start the year, which right now is probably what he is (though ultimately Pickett feels like the odd man out). Ofcourse that could change, but at this moment Gabriel is the guy the staff wants.
Strongly disagree. The NFL blows picks day 2 on QB every year. No cherry picking...
The only thing that matters is who will be the Browns starter in week 17 after things shake out.
And I'll disagree here. Regardless of those players you listed the team drafting liked him and I don't know how that can be an argument. We know Gabriel was a 3rd and we also know Sanders was a 5th. Past performance isn't indicative of future returns (though i agree Gabriel is likely is a backup at best, but so is Sanders).
3 things:
Agree. Third round talent in a down year at the position, penalized to the fifth due to attitude.
The people have spoken with an overwhelming majority.I hear you long term. For now though as we're trying to project every yard for every player for the season, Week 1 matters to me
The people have spoken with an overwhelming majority.I hear you long term. For now though as we're trying to project every yard for every player for the season, Week 1 matters to me
Joe with 73%
Joe makes sense in terms of familiarity with the offense and in terms of any chemistry carry over from two years ago but consider...
The first move the Browns made in revamping the QB room was to TRADE draft picks and a player for Kenny. I get why they made the move.
He fits the 12 personnel and run-heavy offense of Stefanski who loves a QB who protects the ball.
Protecting the ball is why they favored Dylan over Shedeur in the draft and why they moved-on from Jameis.
We haven't even had minicamp but if you look at, the first move, who fits the offense, and what was given up (Joe FA with vet minimum contract = nothing) at this point in time, it points to Kenny.
We knew who Jameis was because we had years of film. We 'pretty much' know who Kenny is. Pickett has been in the league for 3 years and has played in 30 games. He has 1 game where he's thrown for more than 300 yards. He has 1 game where he's thrown for more than 1 TD.
I was livid when they took Gabriel.
Day 2 QBs hit at a rate much lower than Day 1 and also Day 3...you look around the NFL and most starting QBs came from the 1st round at one point or another
You can make a case for Gabe; he was the most productive collegiate QB in this class because he played on three teams. After the draft people were baffled and some have gone to bat for him comparing him directly with Shedeur.
www.cbssports.com
This should settle the debate in here...
Obviously the Browns want to surround Pickett and build around himBrowns sign former Steelers Pro Bowl receiver, reuniting him in Cleveland with Kenny Pickett
Diontae Johnson and Pickett spent two years together in Pittsburgh
Did Johnson have problems in the locker room with Trubisky or Pickett? I remember the rumors, but nor which qb. Likely doesn't matter, dude was a cancer last season on good teams, let alone a bad one. Just curiousThis should settle the debate in here...
Obviously the Browns want to surround Pickett and build around himBrowns sign former Steelers Pro Bowl receiver, reuniting him in Cleveland with Kenny Pickett
Diontae Johnson and Pickett spent two years together in Pittsburgh
I am having a hard time seeing how these stats support Sanders.
