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timschochet

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Tom Brady

Peyton Manning

Lawrence Maroney

Joseph Addai

Kevin Faulk

Kenton Keith

Randy Moss

Reggie Wayne

Wes Welker

Anthony Gonzales

Dante Stallworth

Dallas Clark

NE Defense

Colts Defense

Viniatieri

Gotkowski

Any of them you won't start in this matchup? Who do you expect to have a big game, and who will be a disappointment?

make your predictions now.

 
Maroney and Harrison. And of course Brady/Manning.

I think NE will run quite a bit more this weekend and use their #1RB more, Faulk will turn into more of a 3rd down back this week and not get 50% of the series. Harrison because NE is gonna take out Indys best weapon which is Wayne at the moment.

 
For myself, I think the following playerts will have a big day:

Brady

Maroney*

Welker

Manning

Addai

Wayne

Clark

And I think these players will fall short of expectations:

Moss

Stallworth

Faulk

Keith

Gonzales

Both defenses

* I especially think that Maroney may have his game of the year here, as the Pats try to pound the ball on a regualr basis for the first time all year- look for 130 yrds + 1-2 TDs

 
For myself, I think the following playerts will have a big day:BradyMaroney*WelkerManning AddaiWayneClarkAnd I think these players will fall short of expectations:MossStallworthFaulkKeithGonzalesBoth defenses* I especially think that Maroney may have his game of the year here, as the Pats try to pound the ball on a regualr basis for the first time all year- look for 130 yrds + 1-2 TDs
And you believe Harrison will still be injured?
 
Maroney and Harrison. And of course Brady/Manning.I think NE will run quite a bit more this weekend and use their #1RB more, Faulk will turn into more of a 3rd down back this week and not get 50% of the series. Harrison because NE is gonna take out Indys best weapon which is Wayne at the moment.
I didn 't include Harrison because Im not sure he will play. If he does play, I tend to agree.
 
Maroney and Harrison. And of course Brady/Manning.I think NE will run quite a bit more this weekend and use their #1RB more, Faulk will turn into more of a 3rd down back this week and not get 50% of the series. Harrison because NE is gonna take out Indys best weapon which is Wayne at the moment.
No way. Brady is going to throw it all over the field. Indy's run def is good as long as Bob Sanders is lurking in the secondary. I expect Manning and Clark for the Colts to be big.Brady, Welker and Moss for the Pats.
 
I'll put my $ on Dallas Clark beating them old #### LBs all day.
Adalius Thomas was signed specifically to cover TEs like Dallas Clark.I'd temper my enthusiasm over Clark... everyone is looking for him to have a big day, but AD will blanket him.
 
Patriots by 10

Stallworth has 100+ yards and a TD

Faulk blows up for 100+ all purpose yards and a TD

Moss struggles a bit but still catches a deep ball (I see 3/80/1)

Pats 37 - Indy 27

 
I'll put my $ on Dallas Clark beating them old #### LBs all day.
Adalius Thomas was signed specifically to cover TEs like Dallas Clark.I'd temper my enthusiasm over Clark... everyone is looking for him to have a big day, but AD will blanket him.
But both gates and Winslow had good games against NE, didn't they? I think Clark will at least get a good share of targets...
 
I'd say the only people to get points out of this matchup will be Brady, Welker, Moss, Manning, Clark, and Wayne.

Maroney has no fantasy value at all this year and probably as long as he plays for the Pats...UNLESS he can punch it in from 20 yards out. It's starting to remind me of the days Robert Smith use to eat up the yardage between the twenties and then they'd bring in Moe Williams to score the TD's. The Pats bring in that big package in goalline situations.

 
Patriots by 10Stallworth has 100+ yards and a TDFaulk blows up for 100+ all purpose yards and a TDMoss struggles a bit but still catches a deep ball (I see 3/80/1)Pats 37 - Indy 27
why do you believe it will be Faulk and not Maroney who has the big day?
 
I have Wayne and will be facing Brady, so I'm hoping Wayne will be huge and Brady, not so much. Or maybe, they'll just merge into Wayne Brady and choke a b-tch.

 
I think Addai will have a nice day for the Colts. I see the Pats trying to take away Wayne and Clark with mixed zone and double teams. The middle of the field could be open often for dumpoffs. Part of the bend-don't-break nature of the Pats defense.

Addai could be VERY busy on Sunday.

 
For myself, I think the following playerts will have a big day:

Brady

Maroney*

Welker

Manning

Addai

Wayne

Clark

And I think these players will fall short of expectations:

Moss

Stallworth

Faulk

Keith

Gonzales

Both defenses

* I especially think that Maroney may have his game of the year here, as the Pats try to pound the ball on a regualr basis for the first time all year- look for 130 yrds + 1-2 TDs
I've been waiting for that all year :goodposting:
 
Patriots by 10Stallworth has 100+ yards and a TDFaulk blows up for 100+ all purpose yards and a TDMoss struggles a bit but still catches a deep ball (I see 3/80/1)Pats 37 - Indy 27
why do you believe it will be Faulk and not Maroney who has the big day?
Faulk is the short 3rd down back or the guy the pats like to use in passing situations. Indy's got a good enough D that I think the Pats will see quite a few 3rd downs. I also think that Indy is aware that they will need to pressure Brady to have a chance of slowing down this offense... so I expect a lot of interesting Blitzes. In that case I'd see pats running some 2-back sets with Maroney picking up the blitz and some flare passes out to Faulk who's not only a better receiver but also quicker in those sorts of situations. That, coupled with some quick outs to Welker/Brady should help keep the Colts honest with the pressure. Maroney should still post a solid day (14//75/1) but I think Faulk might surprise some with an above average game next week. Of course this is purely my opinion which is worth about as much as anyone else here not named Belechick. :confused:
 
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Of course I have to be going up against the owner of Manning/Wayne this week...... :confused:

I will be rooting for the NE defense, myself!! :thumbup:

 
I think Dallas Clark will have a TD and an average day yardage wise.

I think Manning outperforms Brady and that compared to what Brady's done so far this year, he'll definately disappointment in fantasy numbers.

The NE running game will disappointment while the Indy rushing game will be decent.

I think Randy Moss will make a big play and so will Reggie Wayne.

 
Iwannabeacowboybaby! said:
I think Dallas Clark will have a TD and an average day yardage wise.I think Manning outperforms Brady and that compared to what Brady's done so far this year, he'll definately disappointment in fantasy numbers.The NE running game will disappointment while the Indy rushing game will be decent.I think Randy Moss will make a big play and so will Reggie Wayne.
Why does everyone seem to think NE will have a bad day running the ball (except Icon, and he thinks faulk will be the main guy, not Maroney)Reasons for Maroney to have a big game:1. It's true that Sanders comes in for run support, but not against the Pats, because they have three good wRs. You need to double on Moss, and single cover Welker and Stallworth if you can. That means Sanders will have to play back most of the time, which is a good situation for Maroney. Faulk is a change of pace back, but i suspect the Pats force feed Maroney here to get lots of yards between the tackles.The reason Maroney hasnt gotten more yardage in garbage time this year is beacuse the Pats keep throwing the ball even when they're way ahead. However, I don't expect them to be way ahead in this game; perhaps they'll be ahead by 7 or 10 in the 4th quarter. If so, it'll be important for the first time all year for NE to run some time on the clock and have a slower more sustained drive. This too should favor Maroney.I see big numbers for Maroney both in this game and in weeks to come, as well, when the weather gets a little colder.
 
Wanted to bump this thread because I think it got lost amid all the Patriots talk. And I think it's interesting- who will perform well?

I really think Sunday could be the start of good times for Maroney. I also believe that Addai and Wayne will have big games, as will Randy Moss- but Clark and Welker owners will be mighty dissappointed...

 
Maroney, Keith, Wayne, D. Clark, Gostowski owner, going against Manning in my big money league.

Not going to be much defense in this one, and what little is played will be N.E. I do agree with the people who are expecting big games out of Maroney on the ground.

Clark tore up N.E. last year and that's probably why they went after Thomas, who will do a great job covering Clark.

 
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Why does everyone seem to think NE will have a bad day running the ball (except Icon, and he thinks faulk will be the main guy, not Maroney)
Where did I say this? I said Faulk would post 100 all purpose yards (Psst... that includes receiving).the goal of the exercise is to predict who will have a bigger htan normal day. I think in relation to their "average days", Faulk will surprise more than Maroney.

 
I think Dallas Clark will have a TD and an average day yardage wise.

I think Manning outperforms Brady and that compared to what Brady's done so far this year, he'll definately disappointment in fantasy numbers.

The NE running game will disappointment while the Indy rushing game will be decent.

I think Randy Moss will make a big play and so will Reggie Wayne.
Why does everyone seem to think NE will have a bad day running the ball (except Icon, and he thinks faulk will be the main guy, not Maroney)Reasons for Maroney to have a big game:

1. It's true that Sanders comes in for run support, but not against the Pats, because they have three good wRs. You need to double on Moss, and single cover Welker and Stallworth if you can. That means Sanders will have to play back most of the time, which is a good situation for Maroney. Faulk is a change of pace back, but i suspect the Pats force feed Maroney here to get lots of yards between the tackles.

The reason Maroney hasnt gotten more yardage in garbage time this year is beacuse the Pats keep throwing the ball even when they're way ahead. However, I don't expect them to be way ahead in this game; perhaps they'll be ahead by 7 or 10 in the 4th quarter. If so, it'll be important for the first time all year for NE to run some time on the clock and have a slower more sustained drive. This too should favor Maroney.

I see big numbers for Maroney both in this game and in weeks to come, as well, when the weather gets a little colder.
:excited: I don't think I've ever seen a more obvious Maroney owner in the Pool.... good stuff timmahMaroney will do alright.. no doubt... but anyone predicting him to have a monster day is in for a bit of a disappointment.

Last year in the playoffs:

Dillion 7 for 48

Maroney 8 for 13



Last year in the regular season:

Maroney 13 for 63

Dillon 13 for 48



2005 in the Regular season

Dillon 12 for 40

No Maroney

Do you see a pattern forming here? In the last 2 years the Pats have not had a rusher gain more than 63 yards on the ground against Indy. Now that they've actually DECREASED the rush in the mix, what SPECIFICALLY makes you think they will run the the ball the most they have in 3 years?

Before you throw out the "IND has the fewest yards allowed (passing)" number.... I suggest you take a look at the passing offenses they've played thus far and consider the impact of those games on their averages:

• Tennessee (29th ranked pass offense)

• Jacksonville (27th)

• Carolina (26th)

So they've played 3 of the 7 worst passing attacks in the league. Now it's look at the 2 GOOD passing attacks they faced:

• New Orleans (8th)

They got New Orleans at a very opportune time (week one) well before the team was firing on all cylinders. Brees still hung almost 200 yards on Indy.

• Houston (4th)

Houston sure looks pretty, except they faced them the first week after Schaub lost Andre Johnson as a target. The passing game was still struggling to recover yet Schaub STILL managed to hang 236 Yards on this Indy Defense.

Indy is about to face the top passing attack in the league (by a LARGE margin) and unlike NO and HOU (who have scored HALF as many points as NE this year) they will not be facing them at their weakest points all season. On the contrary.... New England is AVERAGING 50 POINTS A GAME over the last 3 games... and 2 of those games were against Dallas and Washington who both supposedly had pretty solid defenses.

The pats will run the ball to set up the pass and much of the action out of the backfield will be flare passes to Faulk to slow the Indy blitzes (that Dungy knows he MUST use to have any chance of slowing down Brady). The fact of the matter is that while Maroney will likely post slightly better numbers than NE feature backs have against the Colts, history has shown that even a DOUBLING of those numbers won't exactly be a huge game.

Frankly the only shot Maroney has of posting a big game this week is if he gets to punch in 2+ TDs from short yardage. Given how few of those he's had thus far this year, I'd not hold my breath. It's possible but unlikely.

Maroney: 16 / 85 / 1

 
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I think Dallas Clark will have a TD and an average day yardage wise.I think Manning outperforms Brady and that compared to what Brady's done so far this year, he'll definately disappointment in fantasy numbers.The NE running game will disappointment while the Indy rushing game will be decent.I think Randy Moss will make a big play and so will Reggie Wayne.
Why does everyone seem to think NE will have a bad day running the ball (except Icon, and he thinks faulk will be the main guy, not Maroney)Reasons for Maroney to have a big game:1. It's true that Sanders comes in for run support, but not against the Pats, because they have three good wRs. You need to double on Moss, and single cover Welker and Stallworth if you can. That means Sanders will have to play back most of the time, which is a good situation for Maroney. Faulk is a change of pace back, but i suspect the Pats force feed Maroney here to get lots of yards between the tackles.The reason Maroney hasnt gotten more yardage in garbage time this year is beacuse the Pats keep throwing the ball even when they're way ahead. However, I don't expect them to be way ahead in this game; perhaps they'll be ahead by 7 or 10 in the 4th quarter. If so, it'll be important for the first time all year for NE to run some time on the clock and have a slower more sustained drive. This too should favor Maroney.I see big numbers for Maroney both in this game and in weeks to come, as well, when the weather gets a little colder.
I don't think NE is a good running football team. I saw them in the first half of the Dallas game and they were completely shut down and one dimensional.The problem for other teams is the one dimensional looks to be the best passing game I've ever seen plus they play very good defense and special teams.Dallas was beaten down and tired for many reasons, all discussed in a different thread that should stay dead for now.I may not be right. Maybe one of the NE backs go off and get 100 plus yards but I don't think so. Their running game isn't what scares me. If I were the Colts I'd spend just about all my time in figuring out how I'm going to get pressure on Tom Brady. If they don't put pressure on him, they lose.
 
Both D's will "slow" the other's offense just enough to see more FG attempts than what is usual for the kickers on these teams. Vinatieri and Gostkowski will both produce nicely. :thumbup:

 
I think Dallas Clark will have a TD and an average day yardage wise.

I think Manning outperforms Brady and that compared to what Brady's done so far this year, he'll definately disappointment in fantasy numbers.

The NE running game will disappointment while the Indy rushing game will be decent.

I think Randy Moss will make a big play and so will Reggie Wayne.
Why does everyone seem to think NE will have a bad day running the ball (except Icon, and he thinks faulk will be the main guy, not Maroney)Reasons for Maroney to have a big game:

1. It's true that Sanders comes in for run support, but not against the Pats, because they have three good wRs. You need to double on Moss, and single cover Welker and Stallworth if you can. That means Sanders will have to play back most of the time, which is a good situation for Maroney. Faulk is a change of pace back, but i suspect the Pats force feed Maroney here to get lots of yards between the tackles.

The reason Maroney hasnt gotten more yardage in garbage time this year is beacuse the Pats keep throwing the ball even when they're way ahead. However, I don't expect them to be way ahead in this game; perhaps they'll be ahead by 7 or 10 in the 4th quarter. If so, it'll be important for the first time all year for NE to run some time on the clock and have a slower more sustained drive. This too should favor Maroney.

I see big numbers for Maroney both in this game and in weeks to come, as well, when the weather gets a little colder.
:yucky: I don't think I've ever seen a more obvious Maroney owner in the Pool.... good stuff timmahMaroney will do alright.. no doubt... but anyone predicting him to have a monster day is in for a bit of a disappointment.

Last year in the playoffs:

Dillion 7 for 48

Maroney 8 for 13



Last year in the regular season:

Maroney 13 for 63

Dillon 13 for 48



2005 in the Regular season

Dillon 12 for 40

No Maroney

Do you see a pattern forming here? In the last 2 years the Pats have not had a rusher gain more than 63 yards on the ground against Indy. Now that they've actually DECREASED the rush in the mix, what SPECIFICALLY makes you think they will run the the ball the most they have in 3 years?

Before you throw out the "IND has the fewest yards allowed (passing)" number.... I suggest you take a look at the passing offenses they've played thus far and consider the impact of those games on their averages:

• Tennessee (29th ranked pass offense)

• Jacksonville (27th)

• Carolina (26th)

So they've played 3 of the 7 worst passing attacks in the league. Now it's look at the 2 GOOD passing attacks they faced:

• New Orleans (8th)

They got New Orleans at a very opportune time (week one) well before the team was firing on all cylinders. Brees still hung almost 200 yards on Indy.

• Houston (4th)

Houston sure looks pretty, except they faced them the first week after Schaub lost Andre Johnson as a target. The passing game was still struggling to recover yet Schaub STILL managed to hang 236 Yards on this Indy Defense.

Indy is about to face the top passing attack in the league (by a LARGE margin) and unlike NO and HOU (who have scored HALF as many points as NE this year) they will not be facing them at their weakest points all season. On the contrary.... New England is AVERAGING 50 POINTS A GAME over the last 3 games... and 2 of those games were against Dallas and Washington who both supposedly had pretty solid defenses.

The pats will run the ball to set up the pass and much of the action out of the backfield will be flare passes to Faulk to slow the Indy blitzes (that Dungy knows he MUST use to have any chance of slowing down Brady). The fact of the matter is that while Maroney will likely post slightly better numbers than NE feature backs have against the Colts, history has shown that even a DOUBLING of those numbers won't exactly be a huge game.

Frankly the only shot Maroney has of posting a big game this week is if he gets to punch in 2+ TDs from short yardage. Given how few of those he's had thus far this year, I'd not hold my breath. It's possible but unlikely.

Maroney: 16 / 85 / 1
First, Im not a Maroney owner, bu I do think he will do better than you're predicting.Rather than go back to last year, I am using the NE Cincy game as a model. Sammy Morris had a big game that night, and had more than 16 carries, which is the key. I look for Maroney to get 20-22 carries, especially if the game is tight. I am just guessing though.

This is such an interesting topic! How about a new thread about it?

Just kidding, icon!

 
Rather than go back to last year, I am using the NE Cincy game as a model. Sammy Morris had a big game that night, and had more than 16 carries, which is the key. I look for Maroney to get 20-22 carries, especially if the game is tight. I am just guessing though.
Why would you look at how he did against CIN to predict how he would do against INDY.. they are not the same team. Why would you ignore past data against INDY? ;) Of COURSE he had a good game against CIN.... Look at his numbers in the past:



2006 vs CIN

Maroney: 15 for 125 & 2TD

Dillon: 17 for 67 & 1TD

The precident had been set for a big game vs Cincy...Let's compare apples to apples here. The Patriots gameplan vs Indy is SIGNIFICANTLY different vs Cincy. I've yet to see any legitimate factual backing for the argument that Maroney will have a big day...

 

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