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Who Will Be The Ravens' Opening Day QB? (1 Viewer)
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Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Troy Smith
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Vinny Testaverde was the Ravens' first QB when they moved there in 1996. He was *only* 33 at the time.
Maybe they can bring him back.
Maybe they can bring him back.
FavreCo
Footballguy
Boller, who then gets replaced by whoever they draft.
If that Smith hack weasels his way into the lienup, I may as well just cut Todd Heap. However, I can't imagine the current coaching staff is more inept than Billick & co. I hang my hopes on that.
If that Smith hack weasels his way into the lienup, I may as well just cut Todd Heap. However, I can't imagine the current coaching staff is more inept than Billick & co. I hang my hopes on that.
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CommuterMan
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Almost went with Dodds but I'd have to see his wonderlic score before I could possibly include him in the mix...
I believe that Troy Smith will be the QB under center in September. Ozzie likes Smith and Billick likes Boller... oh wait one of those guys is no longer with the team.
I believe that Troy Smith will be the QB under center in September. Ozzie likes Smith and Billick likes Boller... oh wait one of those guys is no longer with the team.
The Ravens will announce that it's an open competition, but Boller will "win" it. But the replacement won't happen this year unless they are out of contention.
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Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
What's wrong with Troy Smith?
FavreCo
Footballguy
What makes you think he is a quality starter capable of taking a team to a superbowl win?
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Was that the criteria? In that case - Is Boller qualified? Will the rookie they take be?
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Taking a team to a Super Bowl win? Um, I don't think that guy is anywhere in this poll. Sort of an irrelevant expectation I'd say. If they make it to the Super Bowl, it'd be like the Bears a couple of years back. The QB's deficiencies would be overcome by the D and other areas. He'd be along for the ride, not taking them there.
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
Exactly.And do you really think the Ravens are that close to going to a Super Bowl where a decent QB will push them over the edge?
FavreCo
Footballguy
Boller isn't qualified but maybe whoever they draft will be. Smith isn't qualified either. He's not even close.
On another note, name the last 6'-0" QB that won the superbowl. You may be able to shrink McMahon down to that level but other than him, there's no one in the last 30+ years.
On another note, name the last 6'-0" QB that won the superbowl. You may be able to shrink McMahon down to that level but other than him, there's no one in the last 30+ years.
FavreCo
Footballguy
So why waste time with a hack like Troy Smith who has no chance of winning it all? fyi, he's no good. Draft a QB and see what happens.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
That's not the question. The question is who the opening day starter will be. You think whoever they draft will be the opening day starter? About a 1% chance of that happening.
B Maverick
Footballguy
no option for Dilfer?
I think it will be Boller week 1. Smith may get a shot week 2 or 3 but thats not the question.
Rookie starts midseason unless someone pulls a D Anderson
I think it will be Boller week 1. Smith may get a shot week 2 or 3 but thats not the question.
Rookie starts midseason unless someone pulls a D Anderson
FavreCo
Footballguy
Like I said, you put Boller in there and let the rookie sit until it's time to get his feet wet. Fact: Boller sucks. Fact: Smith sucks. Fact: this team is going nowhere fast. So why waste time with Smith?
FavreCo
Footballguy
I already told you Boller will be starting day 1.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
But he also has no chance of winning it all so why waste time with him? Why do you prefer him and hate Smith?
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browntown
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Definitely Boller. Matt Ryan won't get to them unless they trade up. The Ravens are built to compete now, so they're not going to hand the opening day reigns to a 2nd year player who got limited PT last season. Boller knows the system, and has shown some flashes, so he's the guy without question. Smith and/or a 2nd round pick like Flacco/Brohm/Henne are also likely to see time though. It's still Kyle Boller afterall.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Thanks you. Yes, I was clear about this being the opening day starter I'm asking about, not who will finish the season.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Not anymore they're not. - Ogden's going to likely retire so their o-line has some catching up to do.
- Both corners are getting up there in age and there's no depth to speak of.
- Questionable depth along the d-line
- Okay at the WR spot but Mason's a year older and Clayton seemed to take a step backward.
This team reminds me a lot of the 2007-2008 Kansas City Chiefs.
FavreCo
Footballguy
Correct, he doesn't. I don't prefer him at all. One of the 2 bums has to start and then make way for whoever they draft. I say may as well be Boller. Let's get this straight. They both SUCK!!!!! This team has no viable starting QB yet.
FavreCo
Footballguy
And I was 100% clear as to who is teh opening day starter.
FavreCo
Footballguy
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Well okay. But your reasoning for coming to that conclusion made no sense.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
That's a given.
I know of one reason he hates Smith.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Yes?
Couch Potato
Footballguy
So, if neither Boller or Smith is viable, why not bring in Leftwich? Do you guys see him as any better, or just more of what they already have?
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
If Leftwich got cut by Atlanta in favor of retaining Harrington, I'm not sure why we're even discussing him as being in the league anymore.
browntown
Footballguy
It's not as though I don't see them regressing in some areas, and I don't necessarily think they'll be good enough to compete, they just have too many veterans to settle for rookie or 2nd year player mediocrity from the QB position from the start. It would be like one last kick at the can with Boller, AND THEN when they realize he's brutal... they go to the young guy. Out of the gates they go veteran though.
D_House
Footballguy
The Ravens will be better on offense this year. The main problem was coaching, and that was reflected in the lack of quality playcalling, discipline, and offensive line play. They have the skill position players (Heap, Mason, Clayton, McGahee) to support a game manager type QB, which both Boller and Smith have shown they can be. Boller clearly doesn't have the tools to take it to the next level, but Smith may, so I'd vote for Smith. They need to nab an O-lineman early, and continue to replenish the DEF. Investing in another QB would be a mistake at this point, IMO.
Accuracy!, He doesn't seem to have it if my memory serves me right of his college games. Of course Boller is no sharp shooter either.
Mr. Peterson
Footballguy
Boller has gone out there and proved he is not very good. But as a rookie, Smith showed some promise. He has not shown if he is garbage yet or not. The kid is one thing, a proven winner. Has won at every level he has ever played.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
I thought that was a money thing. I could be wrong, and I'm not up to researching it right now.
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Yikes....
Ok, to the OP - Boller is your starter and will be given either 6 or 9 games to prove he should continue.
Look at the Ravens' schedule. They play 9 games before a Week 10 Bye, all of them against the AFC and 4 vs. the division.
If they are doing 3-3 or better before Week 7, Boller is your continued starter. If they are 1-5, it goes to the rookie.
Why Week 7?
Week 7: @ Miami
Week 8: Oakland
Week 9: @ Cleveland
Week 10 Bye
So if they turn it over to a rook for two of their easiest games in Weeks 7 and 8, that's a good transition.
If they are iffy but in the hunt to that point, Boller continues.
If they are in last place after the Cleveland game, the rookie has 7 pretty meaningless games to learn for 2009 and also gets the bye week to get ready to go to the Giants in Week 11.
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Ok, to the OP - Boller is your starter and will be given either 6 or 9 games to prove he should continue.
Look at the Ravens' schedule. They play 9 games before a Week 10 Bye, all of them against the AFC and 4 vs. the division.
If they are doing 3-3 or better before Week 7, Boller is your continued starter. If they are 1-5, it goes to the rookie.
Why Week 7?
Week 7: @ Miami
Week 8: Oakland
Week 9: @ Cleveland
Week 10 Bye
So if they turn it over to a rook for two of their easiest games in Weeks 7 and 8, that's a good transition.
If they are iffy but in the hunt to that point, Boller continues.
If they are in last place after the Cleveland game, the rookie has 7 pretty meaningless games to learn for 2009 and also gets the bye week to get ready to go to the Giants in Week 11.
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Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Lefty is a good name to bring up. I like that.
He was released in February so there's no $ issue.
obxlegends
Footballguy
I'm going with Boller only because he has the most experience and his measurables are greater. I do hope either Ryan or Flacco are behind him.The better question is who is the Ravens QB week 17?
Couch Potato
Footballguy
I checked, and as I thought I remembered it was to avoid his higher 2008 salary. Both Redman and Harrington were re-signed and are making a lot less. Since Redman (2 yr, 5 mil) was deemed starter, the cheaper Harrington (one year, one mil) was retained instead of Lefty ($3.65 mil).Lefty is a good name to bring up. I like that.
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Andy Herron
Footballguy
Troy Smith.
Kyle Boller has had his shot time and time again. He just doesn't click, at least not in Baltimore.
Troy Smith showed a few good things at the tail end of last season and deserves a further look, which I deem he'll get.
They didn't spend a draft pick on him last year to simply not give the opportunity or consider.
That's ridiculous.
Sure, they'll draft a QB, but Smith should get a shot before another draft pick is ready.
The guy is plenty mobile enough to find passing lanes to overcome his lack of height, and he throws a nice deep ball as well.
They'll call it a competition in training camp, but barring injury he'll be the opening day starter.
Kyle Boller has had his shot time and time again. He just doesn't click, at least not in Baltimore.
Troy Smith showed a few good things at the tail end of last season and deserves a further look, which I deem he'll get.
They didn't spend a draft pick on him last year to simply not give the opportunity or consider.
That's ridiculous.
Sure, they'll draft a QB, but Smith should get a shot before another draft pick is ready.
The guy is plenty mobile enough to find passing lanes to overcome his lack of height, and he throws a nice deep ball as well.
They'll call it a competition in training camp, but barring injury he'll be the opening day starter.
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