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Who woulda thunk it? (2 Viewers)

richn

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The great and talented Randy Moss was outright dropped, and on my leagues WW. I don't think anyone is rushing to pick him up (redraft). AMAZING.

 
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If this isn't a 6 team league that's just dumb. I don't care what you say.

I'm not saying it's dumb to drop him. But it's dumb if no team picks him up.

 
I own him and want to drop him so bad. He's fairly worthless this year. If you can't start him, why keep him? I see no light at the end of the tunnel either for him...we'll see. It doesn't surprise me that he's waiver fodder right now. He is average at best this year and i'd rather take a shot with someone who "Might" do something for me down the stretch. That Raider team is in shambles. It's an embarrassment.

(10 team league start 3 WR's + flex)

 
If this isn't a 6 team league that's just dumb. I don't care what you say.I'm not saying it's dumb to drop him. But it's dumb if no team picks him up.
Yeah, real dumb not picking up the 37th ranked RB :rolleyes: We start 3 WR mandatory and rank 37 means he isn't even a WR#3
 
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With Brooks coming back I'd probably take a chance on him unless you have REALLY short benches.

 
If this isn't a 6 team league that's just dumb. I don't care what you say.I'm not saying it's dumb to drop him. But it's dumb if no team picks him up.
Yeah, real dumb not picking up the 37th ranked RB :rolleyes: We start 3 WR mandatory and rank 37 means he isn't even a WR#3
But he's one hell of a bench warmer.
Bye weeks are done and honestly I could think of at least 5 guys ranked lower than him that I would rather have. Moss is going down hill and I see no reason to expect things to get better for him.
 
I picked him up a few weeks ago off waivers in a Yahoo league with very short benches - and haven't won a game since.

 
I have him and don't use him but store him on my bench. I have good depth at WR (Coltson, CJ, and Steve Smith are my main guys) and do not expect him to see any playing time but some other teams in my league are not deep and start guys much weaker than Moss. Moss may improve a little with Aaron Brooks; I don't think it will be enough to merit starting him but I don't want anyone else to be able to pick him up and start him against me.

He is still a dangerous receiver and could have 1 big game if they decide to just start throwing jump balls to him (of course the offensive line would have to figure out how to block a little more to give Randy time to get downfield).

 
If this isn't a 6 team league that's just dumb. I don't care what you say.

I'm not saying it's dumb to drop him. But it's dumb if no team picks him up.
Yeah, real dumb not picking up the 37th ranked RB :rolleyes: We start 3 WR mandatory and rank 37 means he isn't even a WR#3
Injuries to any of the top 36 WRs down?(A) If you are in a 12 team league...

3x12 = 36 starters

#37 = Randy Moss (1st WR backup)

(B) If you are in a 10 team league...

3x10 = 30 starters

#31

#32

#33

#34

#35

#36

#37 = Randy Moss (7th WR backup)

So in a 12 team league, if any of the top 36 WRs goes down, he is a starter.

In a 10 team league, he is the 7th best option. But in that range of WR rankings, there isn't much point differnce between #30 and #40...

He HAS to be on SOMEONE'S roster...

 
He was just dropped in one of my 12 team redraft leagues, today as well. WTH, I put in a WW request. He had one good game this year, maybe he can squeeze out another one.

 
Wow, and I remember when a particular web site which will remain nameless, had Mandy Moss as the #5 overall WR in the league at the beginning of the year? :bag: Mandy's worthless, regardless of whether Brooks comes back.

 
I've considered dropping him, but there isn't anyone else worthwhile on the WW to pick up. Maybe he starts to show some sign of life down the stretch, but he's sitting the bench for now.

 
If this isn't a 6 team league that's just dumb. I don't care what you say.

I'm not saying it's dumb to drop him. But it's dumb if no team picks him up.
Yeah, real dumb not picking up the 37th ranked RB :rolleyes: We start 3 WR mandatory and rank 37 means he isn't even a WR#3
Injuries to any of the top 36 WRs down?(A) If you are in a 12 team league...

3x12 = 36 starters

#37 = Randy Moss (1st WR backup)

(B) If you are in a 10 team league...

3x10 = 30 starters

#31

#32

#33

#34

#35

#36

#37 = Randy Moss (7th WR backup)

So in a 12 team league, if any of the top 36 WRs goes down, he is a starter.

In a 10 team league, he is the 7th best option. But in that range of WR rankings, there isn't much point differnce between #30 and #40...

He HAS to be on SOMEONE'S roster...
Unless one felt that one of the next 10 guys had more upside and that Moss isn't worth the gamble.I am not saying I am right but I I wouldn't want to have to rely on him down the stretch.

 
Moss has a decent schedule down the stretch and could have some value if he decides he wants to play. He probably won't be in my starting lineup the rest of the year, but he damn sure won't be in anybody else's either.

 
I'm in a 12-teamer, start 2 WRs. Short benches--start 8, bench 6. He's my 3rd of 3 WRs and I'm seriously considering dropping him for Big Ben to be my #2 QB. If I need a WR later I can pick him up or someone with a good matchup. Already clinched a playoff spot.

 
RAIDERNATION said:
He is still a dangerous receiver and could have 1 big game if they decide to just start throwing jump balls to him.
HECAN'T

OUTJUMP

ANYBODY

ANYMORE!!!

Why can't all of you see this? Do you think it never occurred to anyone on the coaching staff to just throw the ball up for grabs to Moss down the field? His injuries have taken their toll. He is nowhere NEAR his old self.

He's just "a guy" now. A guy with a horrible attitude.
Yes, it was preseason, but he is still capable of this on any given Sunday:SCORING SUMMARY

1ST QUARTER

TD Randy Moss, 63 Yd pass from Aaron Brooks 14:00. Drive: 3 plays, 64 yards in 1:00.

2ND QUARTER

TD Randy Moss, 25 Yd pass from Aaron Brooks 13:39. Drive: 9 plays, 59 yards in 4:29.

Chances are he won't, but if he's on my bench instead of my opponent's roster, there's zero chance that he'll be doing it against me.

 
RAIDERNATION said:
jrock said:
He is still a dangerous receiver and could have 1 big game if they decide to just start throwing jump balls to him.
HECAN'T

OUTJUMP

ANYBODY

ANYMORE!!!

Why can't all of you see this? Do you think it never occurred to anyone on the coaching staff to just throw the ball up for grabs to Moss down the field? His injuries have taken their toll. He is nowhere NEAR his old self.

He's just "a guy" now. A guy with a horrible attitude.
If you asking whether I think it's feasible that the Raiders coaching staff failed to implement even the most basic rudimentary offensive scheme adjustments to take advantage of their players strengths, I'd say "Yes". Not just possible but given the coaching staff, quite likely.

 
What injuries has Moss had that prohibit him from jumping? I am only aware of hamstring problems, which shouldn't impact leaping ability....what else?

 
RAIDERNATION said:
Kevin Jones said:
RAIDERNATION said:
jrock said:
He is still a dangerous receiver and could have 1 big game if they decide to just start throwing jump balls to him.
HECAN'T

OUTJUMP

ANYBODY

ANYMORE!!!

Why can't all of you see this? Do you think it never occurred to anyone on the coaching staff to just throw the ball up for grabs to Moss down the field? His injuries have taken their toll. He is nowhere NEAR his old self.

He's just "a guy" now. A guy with a horrible attitude.
Yes, it was preseason, but he is still capable of this on any given Sunday:SCORING SUMMARY

1ST QUARTER

TD Randy Moss, 63 Yd pass from Aaron Brooks 14:00. Drive: 3 plays, 64 yards in 1:00.

2ND QUARTER

TD Randy Moss, 25 Yd pass from Aaron Brooks 13:39. Drive: 9 plays, 59 yards in 4:29.

Chances are he won't, but if he's on my bench instead of my opponent's roster, there's zero chance that he'll be doing it against me.
The 63 yarder wasn't a jump ball. It was a blown coverage and he was 9 miles behind the safety.In a preseason game.

Against the Lions.
I should have clarified. I wasn't saying that one or either of those was a jump ball. I was responding to the suggestion that Moss no longer has value. His playoff schedule includes games against the Bengals and Rams.
 
j3r3m3y said:
gman8343 said:
j3r3m3y said:
johnnyrock62000 said:
If this isn't a 6 team league that's just dumb. I don't care what you say.I'm not saying it's dumb to drop him. But it's dumb if no team picks him up.
Yeah, real dumb not picking up the 37th ranked RB :rolleyes: We start 3 WR mandatory and rank 37 means he isn't even a WR#3
But he's one hell of a bench warmer.
Bye weeks are done and honestly I could think of at least 5 guys ranked lower than him that I would rather have. Moss is going down hill and I see no reason to expect things to get better for him.
In a 12 team league with a normal number of bench spots there are usually 60 WRs rostered, at least. You're telling me you'd rather have guys like Ernest Wilford, Travis Taylor and Michael Clayton on your team than Randy Moss. Your logic makes no sense because it doesn't matter if you like 5 guys ranked lower than him better, you have to like at least 23 guys ranked lower than him better. I can see not starting him, but unless your bench spots are extremely limited or you play in a small league, he should be on someone's team.
 
Randy Moss-WR- Raiders Nov. 14 - 9:35 am et

WR Randy Moss told reporters Monday that he's unhappy in Oakland, adding that "my concentration and focus level tend to go down sometimes when I'm in a bad mood."

"All I can say is if you put me in a good situation and make me happy, man, you get good results," Moss said. Asked about the comments, coach Art Shell said: "That's a problem he has. I don't have that problem. That's a problem that he has to deal with." Right, Art, because it's not your problem at all.

Yeah, Randy is really a hot commodity. :rolleyes:

 
Maybe not a hot commodity, but he is NOT waiver wire fodder.

It doesn't surprise me that he's waiver fodder right now. He is average at best this year and i'd rather take a shot with someone who "Might" do something for me down the stretch. That Raider team is in shambles. It's an embarrassment.
Sure. But here you have what many would consider one of the most talented WRs in a long time. His skills may have diminished somewhat, but I don't think this is entirely his fault. And it's certainly not a Jerry Rice situation (who even then put up a couple of clutch games for people if they had the balls to play him in those later years). Who would are those guys ranked below him you would rather have?Not starting him, maybe - but not worth a roster spot? Doubtful. That's overreaction, and I would gladly grab him. If the Raiders turn it around slightly, the reward is very high for a playoff run. If not, well, what are you giving up? A chance that a Clayton will be a stud? Or that Williamson will finally catch the ball? /me likes high reward, low risk situations.
 
johnnyrock62000 said:
If this isn't a 6 team league that's just dumb. I don't care what you say.I'm not saying it's dumb to drop him. But it's dumb if no team picks him up.
What would you expect from Randy Moss going forward?Dumb to drop him? No it isn't.
 
FinHead said:
He was just dropped in one of my 12 team redraft leagues, today as well. WTH, I put in a WW request. He had one good game this year, maybe he can squeeze out another one.
Surprised no-one has responded to this. Just HOW are you to determine when he will put up that next BIG game and reap the rewards? Obviously, by starting him every game, so to reap those "Rewards", prepare yourself for disappointment based on his performance this year. Best of luck with starting him.Unless you (or others in a similiar situation) have the horses to overcome marginal points from him you shall be greatly disappointed in starting him.Disgruntaled Moss owner, lacking guts to cut him thus far.
 
LOL. Guy in our league that drafted him, drafted him in the 2nd round, dropped him to waivers week 3. (How do you drop your 2nd rounder after 2 weeks if he isn't injured?) Anyway, he was picked off waivers by the guy with 12th (out of 12 teams) priority. I was happy for him. That guy had the worst team out of all of us. Not that it helped him much.

 
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Who would you drop for him from:

Wayne, Evans, Jennings, Berrian, Branch????

Maybe Evans or BB, but those guys are better to me.

 
In one of our leagues he's been on our wiavers wire for several weeks now. Even the teams at the bottom of our league who are constantly picking up new players have no interest in him. How the mighty have fallen.

 
He was just dropped in one of my 12 team redraft leagues, today as well. WTH, I put in a WW request. He had one good game this year, maybe he can squeeze out another one.
Surprised no-one has responded to this. Just HOW are you to determine when he will put up that next BIG game and reap the rewards? Obviously, by starting him every game, so to reap those "Rewards", prepare yourself for disappointment based on his performance this year. Best of luck with starting him.Unless you (or others in a similiar situation) have the horses to overcome marginal points from him you shall be greatly disappointed in starting him.Disgruntaled Moss owner, lacking guts to cut him thus far.
In this league, I'm currently in a 3 way tie for 1st place. My WRs are Chad, Marvin, Roy, and Antonio on my bench. I had Bryant Johnson sitting on my bench also, so I figured WTH and am trying to drop him for Moss. I don't expect to start Moss, but going into the playoffs and having a #1 as my backup is better than a #3 :shrug:
 
Will Brooks make Moss care?

Ugh, I hope he has two good games in a row so I can peddle him off to some sucker in my league.

 
If this isn't a 6 team league that's just dumb. I don't care what you say.I'm not saying it's dumb to drop him. But it's dumb if no team picks him up.
Yeah, real dumb not picking up the 37th ranked RB :rolleyes: We start 3 WR mandatory and rank 37 means he isn't even a WR#3
In most leagues, there is room for a #4 wr on a roster.
I would rather have a #4 with some upside rather than a guy with a bad attitude on the decline.But maybe that is just me.
 
If this isn't a 6 team league that's just dumb. I don't care what you say.I'm not saying it's dumb to drop him. But it's dumb if no team picks him up.
Yeah, real dumb not picking up the 37th ranked RB :rolleyes: We start 3 WR mandatory and rank 37 means he isn't even a WR#3
In most leagues, there is room for a #4 wr on a roster.
I would rather have a #4 with some upside rather than a guy with a bad attitude on the decline.But maybe that is just me.
Randy Moss has no upside? Now I know you're either fishing or simply crazy.
 
I put in a WW claim for Drew Bennett this week with plans to drop Moss.

someone else got Bennett before I could.

Moss has been my keeper WR on this team for 3 years.

I'm tired of seeing Moss on my bench.

I traded for Marvin Harrison recently, so maybe I can at least dump his butt next year.

 

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