Who's done their rookie drafts? (1 Viewer)

[ff weasel]

Note to self:Expecting logical responses from a weasel much like trying to teach pigs to sing. Find more productive thread

Hmmm.

 

[bueno]

Note to self:Expecting logical responses from a weasel much like trying to teach pigs to sing. Find more productive thread

Hmmm.

different species weasel ff!

 

[iwascool]

I stand by what I said- When every draft but one has Leftwich going before Palmer (and the one where Leftwich went #1 overall is a start 2 QB league-which refelects why he went unusually high -your chart makes no mention of this) this is definitely a follow the herd mentality. You would think given the fact that Cinncinati has an equal running game, better receivers and an equal or better O-line- combined with the fact that Palmer was the consensus number 1 pick- there would at least be a 75%-25% split.McGahee going as the the #2 back or better in almost every draft shows herd thinking.

As someone who drafted both Leftwich (1.8) and Palmer (1.12) my primary reason for Leftwich first was that Pamer is on the Bengals. To discount the the terrible organization the Bengals are is is to simply ignore data that is available to everyone. That is not following the herd.I also took McGahee (1.2) and he was clearly the most talented RB in the class. There was no herd to follow, simply watching him play was enough.

 

[spOOfy]

10 team dynasty draft. Free agents and rookies. I think some players went way too early. Great for me, cause I got a couple steals later.Pick Player1:01 WR - Charles Rogers1:02 WR - Andre Johnson1:03 QB - Matt Hasselbeck1:04 RB - Larry Johnson1:05 RB - Willis McGahee1:06 QB - Byron Leftwich1:07 QB - Carson Palmer1:08 RB - Correll Buckhalter1:09 WR - Bryant Johnson1:10 QB - Kyle Boller2:11 WR - Taylor Jacobs2:12 WR - Kelley Washington2:13 QB - Seneca Wallace2:14 WR - Keenan McCardell2:15 QB - Jeff Blake2:16 RB - LaBrandon Toefield2:17 QB - Kordell Stewart2:18 RB - Justin Fargas2:19 WR - Tyrone Calico2:20 RB - Chris Brown3:21 RB - Musa Smith3:22 QB - Rex Grossman3:23 RB - Lee Suggs3:24 RB - B.J. Askew3:25 RB - Onterrio Smith3:26 WR - Anquan Boldin3:27 TE - Dallas Clark3:28 RB - Olandis Gary3:29 TE - L.J. Smith3:30 QB - Chris Simms4:31 QB - Mark Brunell4:32 RB - Artose Pinner4:33 TE - Teyo Johnson4:34 RB - Jerome Bettis4:35 TE - Jason Witten4:36 WR - Nate Burleson4:37 WR - Bethel Johnson4:38 RB - Quentin Griffin4:39 WR - Kevin Kasper4:40 QB - Kelly Holcomb5:41 WR - Peter Warrick5:42 TE - Bennie Joppru5:43 RB - Adrian Peterson5:44 QB - Rodney Peete5:45 WR - Kevin Curtis5:46 WR - Billy McMullen5:47 WR - David Terrell5:48 RB - Domanick Davis5:49 TE - Vishante Shiancoe5:50 RB - James Fenderson6:51 QB - Todd Bouman6:52 QB - Drew Henson6:53 DT - Jacksonville Jaguars6:54 RB - Kevin Faulk6:55 K - Rian Lindell6:56 WR - Patrick Johnson6:57 WR - Tim Carter6:58 TE - Doug Jolley6:59 DT - Baltimore Ravens6:60 DT - Kansas City Chiefs

 

[marklot]

Here are the first 2 rounds of our draft:1.01 Dallas Junglehawgs WR Charles Rogers Detroit Lions 1.02 Green Bay Ground Hogs RB Willis McGahee Buffalo Bills 1.03 Tennessee Taz Devils RB Larry Johnson Kansas City Chiefs 1.04 Cincinnati Skye-Lites WR Andre Johnson Houston Texans 1.05 San Diego Slewage QB Byron Leftwich Jacksonville Jaguars 1.06 Minnesota Fats RB Chris Brown Tennessee Titans 1.07 Minnesota Fats RB Artose Pinner Detroit Lions 1.08 Chicago Blaze RB Justin Fargas Oakland Raiders 1.09 Dallas Junglehawgs RB Onterrio Smith Minnesota Vikings 1.10 Arizona Outlaws QB Carson Palmer Cincinnati Bengals 1.11 Tampa Bay Meat Goats QB Kyle Boller Baltimore Ravens 1.12 Green Bay Ground Hogs RB Lee Suggs Cleveland Browns 1.13 San Diego Slewage WR Kelley Washington Cincinnati Bengals 1.14 Chicago Blaze WR Bryant Johnson Arizona Cardinals 1.15 New Orleans Peeping Toms TE Dallas Clark Indianapolis Colts 1.16 Pittsburgh BIG PAPAS RB Musa Smith Baltimore Ravens Rd#2 Team Pos Player NFL Team ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2.01 Cincinnati Skye-Lites RB Labrandon Toefield Jacksonville Jaguars 2.02 Green Bay Ground Hogs WR Taylor Jacobs Washington Redskins 2.03 Tennessee Taz Devils WR Tyrone Calico Tennessee Titans 2.04 Cleveland Cosmos QB Rex Grossman Chicago Bears 2.05 Oakland Ball Hogs RB Quentin Griffin Denver Broncos 2.06 Minnesota Fats WR Teyo Johnson Oakland Raiders 2.07 Indy Hoosier Daddy's WR Anquan Boldin Arizona Cardinals 2.08 Chicago Blaze TE Jason Witten Dallas Cowboys 2.09 Carolina Convicts TE Ben Joppru Houston Texans 2.10 Dallas Junglehawgs WR Brandon Lloyd San Francisco 49ers 2.11 Oakland Ball Hogs WR Billy McMullen Philadelphia Eagles 2.12 Green Bay Ground Hogs WR Kevin Curtis St. Louis Rams 2.13 Denver Ranglers QB Chris Simms Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2.14 Pittsburgh BIG PAPAS WR Nate Burleson Minnesota Vikings 2.15 Denver Ranglers WR Bethel Johnson New England Patriots 2.16 New Orleans Peeping Toms TE L.J. Smith Philadelphia Eagles

 

[TheFanatic]

10 team dynasty draft. Free agents and rookies. I think some players went way too early. Great for me, cause I got a couple steals later.Pick Player1:01 WR - Charles Rogers1:02 WR - Andre Johnson1:03 QB - Matt Hasselbeck1:04 RB - Larry Johnson1:05 RB - Willis McGahee1:06 QB - Byron Leftwich1:07 QB - Carson Palmer1:08 RB - Correll Buckhalter1:09 WR - Bryant Johnson1:10 QB - Kyle Boller2:11 WR - Taylor Jacobs2:12 WR - Kelley Washington2:13 QB - Seneca Wallace2:14 WR - Keenan McCardell2:15 QB - Jeff Blake2:16 RB - LaBrandon Toefield2:17 QB - Kordell Stewart2:18 RB - Justin Fargas2:19 WR - Tyrone Calico2:20 RB - Chris Brown3:21 RB - Musa Smith3:22 QB - Rex Grossman3:23 RB - Lee Suggs3:24 RB - B.J. Askew3:25 RB - Onterrio Smith3:26 WR - Anquan Boldin3:27 TE - Dallas Clark3:28 RB - Olandis Gary3:29 TE - L.J. Smith3:30 QB - Chris Simms4:31 QB - Mark Brunell4:32 RB - Artose Pinner4:33 TE - Teyo Johnson4:34 RB - Jerome Bettis4:35 TE - Jason Witten4:36 WR - Nate Burleson4:37 WR - Bethel Johnson4:38 RB - Quentin Griffin4:39 WR - Kevin Kasper4:40 QB - Kelly Holcomb5:41 WR - Peter Warrick5:42 TE - Bennie Joppru5:43 RB - Adrian Peterson5:44 QB - Rodney Peete5:45 WR - Kevin Curtis5:46 WR - Billy McMullen5:47 WR - David Terrell5:48 RB - Domanick Davis5:49 TE - Vishante Shiancoe5:50 RB - James Fenderson6:51 QB - Todd Bouman6:52 QB - Drew Henson6:53 DT - Jacksonville Jaguars6:54 RB - Kevin Faulk6:55 K - Rian Lindell6:56 WR - Patrick Johnson6:57 WR - Tim Carter6:58 TE - Doug Jolley6:59 DT - Baltimore Ravens6:60 DT - Kansas City Chiefs

This helped me a lot because we don't do a strict rookie draft. We do all of the FA's and rookies together. I was looking to move up in the draft to get Musa to back up Jamal Lewis, since I don't pick until 16 overall, but I think I will stand pat....

 

[bueno]

I will probably update the ADP this weekend.

 

[bueno]

Okay, I've got the DT Leagues updated. Don't have any new IDP leagues, so nothing has changed there. Here are the average, minimum and maximum positions of each player based on the 16 DT style leagues presently in the database. If we do this next year, I've figured out a couple things I would have done differently so that the averages are a little more precise. Still good data though.Name, position, team, ADP, First ppearance, Highest AppearanceCharles Rogers, wr, Detroit, 1.3, 1, 3Andre Johnson, wr, Houston, 3.3, 2, 6Larry Johnson, rb, Kansas City ,3.4, 2, 6Willis McGahee, rb, Buffalo, 4.3, 2, 11Byron Leftwich, qb, Jacksonville, 5.3, 1, 11Justin Fargas, rb, Oakland, 7.6, 1, 14Carson Palmer, qb, Cincinnati, 9.0, 3, 24Chris Brown, rb, Tennessee, 10.9, 6, 18Kyle Boller, qb, Baltimore, 11.3, 7, 16Bryant Johnson, wr, Arizona, 12.1, 5, 21Onterrio Smith, rb, Minnesota, 12.9, 5, 24Musa Smith, rb, Baltimore, 12.9, 6, 22Artose Pinner, rb, Detroit, 13.3, 7, 25Kelley Washington, wr, Cincinnati, 15.0, 6, 22Taylor Jacobs, wr, Washington, 15.0, 9, 20Rex Grossman, qb, Chicago, 16.4, 7, 34Tyrone Calico, wr, Tennessee, 16.6, 8, 25Lee Suggs, rb, Cleveland, 16.6, 7, 28LaBrandon Toefield, rb, Jacksonville, 18.2, 12, 22Dallas Clark, te, Indianapolis, 19.8, 3, 39Chris Simms, qb, Tampa Bay, 20.6, 10, 36Jason Witten, te, Dallas, 21.9, 13, 29Anquan Boldin, wr, Arizona, 23.1, 13, 31Teyo Johnson, te, Oakland, 25.2, 6, 62Quentin Griffin, rb, Denver, 25.9, 16, 38Domanick Davis, rb, Houston, 26.4, 7, 38Brandon Lloyd, wr, San Francisco, 26.9, 23, 32Ben Joppru, te, Houston, 27.4, 12, 37Bethel Johnson, wr, New England, 27.8, 20, 36Nate Burleson, wr, Minnesota, 28.4, 22, 35Seneca Wallace, qb, Seattle, 29.5, 11, 36L.J. Smith, te, Philadelphia, 30.2, 23, 40Billy McMullen, wr, Philadelphia, 30.6, 20, 43Shaun McDonald, wr New Orleans, 30.8 18, 42Kliff Kingsbury, qb, New England, 32.0, 30, 34Brock Forsey, rb, Chicago, 32.8, 23, 38Kevin Curtis, wr, Saint Louis, 32.8, 28, 39Justin Gage, wr, Chicago, 33.0, 18, 41B.J. Askew, rb, New York Jets, 33.1, 14, 48Ken Dorsey, qb, San Francisco, 33.8, 13, 50Andrew Pinnock, rb, San Diego, 34.0, 34,, 34Doug Gabriel, wr, Oakland, 36.0, 35, 37Talman Gardner, wr, New Orleans, 36.5, 32, 41Josh Brown, pk, Seattle, 36.8, 23, 63Drew Henson, qb, Houston, 37.8, 18, 56Dave Ragone, qb, Houston, 38.4, 23, 67Doug Gabriel, wr - Oakland, 39.0, 39, 39David Kircus, wr, Detroit, 40.0, 40, 40Vishante Shaincoe, TE, Giants, 40.5, 35, 46Craig Nall, qb, Green Bay, 41.0, 26, 56Aaron Walker, te, San Francisco, 41.0, 28, 54Sultan McCullough, rb, Washington, 41.0, 41, 41J.R. Tolver, wr, Dolphins, 42.0, 29, 55Brian St, Pierre, qb, Pittsburg, 42.2, 23, 81Malaefou Mackenzie, rb, Jacksonville, 42.5, 31, 54Sam Aiken, wr, Buffalo, 43.3, 31, 71Cecil Sapp, rb, Denver, 44.5, 42, 47Mike Seidman, te, Carolina, 45.0, 45, 45James Fenderson, rb, New Orleans, 45.5, 36, 55George Wrighster, TE, Jaguars, 47.0, 47, 47Tim Carter, wr, New York Giants, 48.5, 38, 59Avon Coburne, rb, Detroit, 48.7, 33, 79Derek Watson, rb - New England, 49.0, 49, 49Kareem Kelly, wr, New Orleans, 50.0, 31, 69Bobby Wade, wr, Chicago, 51.0, 51, 51Arnaz Battle, wr - 49ers, 52.0, 52, 52Adrian Madise, wr Denver, 53.0, 53, 53Walter Young, wr - Carolina, 66.5, 51, 82Brooks Bollinger, qb - New York Jets, 68.0, 68, 68Earnest Graham, rb, Tampa Bay, 70.0, 70, 70Eric Crouch, qb, Green Bay, 72.0, 72, 72

 

[bueno]

and rfw, if you're still around pimping for your boy Palmer, there is actually a draft in here where he was the 4th - that's right, 4th!! QB taken. There's following the herd.

But then Weasels are solitary animals after all. Moo.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

This is going to be a little different than the other drafts you have seen. This is a new league, 12 teamer contract league, that started with the rookie draft before the initial vet. draft. There is only 16 roster spots (35 max years per season to use), so if you are going to keep a rookie to a contract, they better be good.

1.1- Team #1 (my team)- B.Leftwhich

1.2- Team #1 (my team)- C.Rogers

1.3- Team #2-- L.Johnson

1.4- Team #3-- W.McGahee

1.5- Team #3-- A.Johnson

1.6- Team #4-- K.Washington

1.7- Team #5-- D.Davis (although he missed this pick and was really about pick 14)

1.8- Team #6-- C.Palmer

1.9- Team #7-- A.Pinner

1.10- Team #8-- J.Fargas

1.11- Team #4-- K.Boller

1.12- Team #9-- O.Smith

2.1- Team #9-- T.Jacobs

2.2- Team #4-- T.Calico

2.3- Team #6-- C.Brown

2.4- Team #7-- J.Witten

2.5- Team #10-- B.Johnson

2.6- Team #5-- S.McDonald

2.7- Team #4-- L.Toefield

2.8- Team #10-- D.Clark

2.9- Team #6-- Bethel Johnson

2.10- Team #2-- M.Smith

2.11- Team #8-- L.Suggs

2.12- Team #11-- J.Brown

3.1- Team #11-- A.Boldin

3.2- Team #8-- B.McMullen

3.3- Team #2-- B.Joppru

3.4- Team #6-- Q.Griffin

3.5- Team #4-- J.Gage

3.6- Team #12-- K.Curtis

3.7- Team #5-- S.Aiken

3.8- Team #10-- BJ Askew

3.9- Team #7-- T.Johnson

3.10- Team #12-- R.Grossman

3.11- Team #12-- S.Wallace

3.12- Team #9-- C.Simms

Made many trades to acquire #1 and #2, didn't think there were many players worth waiting a long time for this year....

Guess We have to WATCH it sometimes.....even with 1.01 and 1.02 you can just make a real bad pick.....

 

[Burning Sensation]

First round

1.Bills(from Colts) - Larry Johnson

2.Chargers(from 49ers) - Charlie Rogers

3.Lions - Andre Johnson

4.49ers(from Bills) - Willis Mcgahee

5.Dolphins(from Bears, from Chargers, from 49ers, from Bills) - Onterrio Smith

6.Bills(from Vikings) - Chris Brown

7.Patriots - Byron Leftwich

8.Bears(from Dolphins, from Bears) - Justin Fargas

9.Texans - Carson Palmer

10.Vikings (from Cowboys) - Kyle Boller

11.Bills(from Dolphins, from Bears, from Chargers) - Lee Suggs

12.Eagles - Tyrone Calico

Second round

1.Eagles - Musa Smith

2.Chargers(from Dolphins, from Patriots, from Bills) - Artose Pinner

3.Cowboys - Kelly Washington

4.Texans - Taylor Jacobs

5.Patriots(from Bears, from Bills) - Terrell Suggs

6.Cowboys(from Dolphins)(from Patriots) - Labrandon Toefield

7.Vikings - Bryant Johnson

8.Patriots(from Chargers, from Bears, from Bills) - Rex Grossman

9.Bills - Jason Whitten

10.Cowboys(from Lions) - Chris Simms

11.49ers(from 49ers, from Bills, from Chargers) - Troy Polamalu

12.Bears(from Colts) - Jerome McDougle

Third round

1.Patriots(from Bears, from Colts) - Dallas Clark

2.Bills(from 49ers, from Patriots) - Bethel Johnson

3.Bills(from Lions) - Nick Barnett

4.Vikings(from Bills) - Boss Bailey

5.Bills(from Chargers) - Quentin Griffin

6.Vikings - Teyo Johnson

7.Bills(from Patriots, from 49ers) - Anquan Boldin

8.Bills (from Bears) - Seneca Wallace

9.Texans - J.R. Tolver

10.Lions(from Cowboys) - Nate Burleson

11.Colts(from Dolphins) - Mike Doss

12.Eagles - Michael Haynes

Fourth round

1.Eagles - E.J. Henderson

2.Dolphins - Cecil Sapp

3.Cowboys - Dave Ragone

4.Texans - L.J. Smith

5.Patriots(from Bears, from Bills) - Dewayne Robertson

6.Patriots - Terence Newman

7.Vikings - Drew Henson

8.Chargers - Pisa Tinoisamoa

9.Bills - Brian St. Pierre

10.Lions - Domanick Davis

11.Bears(from 49ers, from Bills) - Brandon Lloyd

12.Bears(from Colts) - Brock Forsey

Fifth round

1.Dolphins(from Colts) - Earnest Graham

2.Bills(from 49ers) - Kevin Curtis

3.Lions - Victor Hobson

4.Bills - Bennie Joppru

5.Chargers - Kawika Mitchell

6.Vikings - Marcus Trufant

7.Patriots - Avon Cobourne

8.Dolphins(from Bears) - Shaun McDonald

9.Texans - Johnathan Sullivan

10.Lions(from Cowboys) - Terry Pierce

11.Bears(from Dolphins) - Justin Gage

12.Eagles - Billy Mcmullen

Sixth round

1.Eagles - Trent Smith

2.Colts(from Dolphins) - Antwan Peek

3.Cowboys - Dahrran Diedrick

4.Texans - Brooks Bollinger

5.Colts(from Bears, from Dolphins) - Terrance Keel

6.Patriots - David Kircus

7.Vikings - Calvin Pace

8.Chargers - Kevin Williams

9.Bills - Chris Kelsay

10.Lions - Andre Woolfolk

11.Bills(from 49ers) - Josh Brown

12.Colts - Ken Hamlin

If this is not correct, let me know

That Bills guy can rookie draft his #@% off!!!!

 

[Illegal Pants Downfield]

1.1- Team #1 (my team)- B.Leftwhich

1.2- Team #1 (my team)- C.Rogers

1.3- Team #2-- L.Johnson

1.4- Team #3-- W.McGahee

1.5- Team #3-- A.Johnson

Guess We have to WATCH it sometimes.....even with 1.01 and 1.02 you can just make a real bad pick.....

While that IS funny, and the Leftwich pick was a reach any way you slice it, in his defense, Charles Rogers was virtually a consensus #1 pick in rookie drafts that year... bad year to have the #1

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I must admit though, putting the boxing smiley at the end of you point like some macho exclamation point did have me fearful for a moment.

 

[Burning Sensation]

1.1- Team #1 (my team)- B.Leftwhich

1.2- Team #1 (my team)- C.Rogers

1.3- Team #2-- L.Johnson

1.4- Team #3-- W.McGahee

1.5- Team #3-- A.Johnson

Guess We have to WATCH it sometimes.....even with 1.01 and 1.02 you can just make a real bad pick.....

While that IS funny, and the Leftwich pick was a reach any way you slice it, in his defense, Charles Rogers was virtually a consensus #1 pick in rookie drafts that year... bad year to have the #1

No it wasnt, it was a bad year to have the #1 and be foolish enough to take a WR with it.

 

[beto]

Classic post. Kudos for the bump.