Why don't they put a chip in the ball (1 Viewer)

[Quez]

I am sure this has already been thought of, and it may have been mentioned in one of the super bowl threads.

Why can't they put some sort of chip in the ball to be able to know exactly where it is? And then some kind of sensors on the goal line? Remember when they had the hockey puck leave trails? Wasn't there was a chip in it.

I would think Paul Alen could get the people over at Microsoft to invent something for the greater good of the game. I think we can all admit that the cameras just are not cutting it. Every time there is a close play the call on the field stands, because the cameras suck so bad there is not enough evidence to overturn.

 

[Kirby]

I am sure this has already been thought of, and it may have been mentioned in one of the super bowl threads.

Why can't they put some sort of chip in the ball to be able to know exactly where it is? And then some kind of sensors on the goal line? Remember when they had the hockey puck leave trails? Wasn't there was a chip in it.

I would think Paul Alen could get the people over at Microsoft to invent something for the greater good of the game. I think we can all admit that the cameras just are not cutting it. Every time there is a close play the call on the field stands, because the cameras suck so bad there is not enough evidence to overturn.

I don't think this would help unless we also put sensors on the elbows, knees, and butts of all the players.

 

[Spike]

I am sure this has already been thought of, and it may have been mentioned in one of the super bowl threads.

Why can't they put some sort of chip in the ball to be able to know exactly where it is? And then some kind of sensors on the goal line? Remember when they had the hockey puck leave trails? Wasn't there was a chip in it.

I would think Paul Alen could get the people over at Microsoft to invent something for the greater good of the game. I think we can all admit that the cameras just are not cutting it. Every time there is a close play the call on the field stands, because the cameras suck so bad there is not enough evidence to overturn.

Ok, so you put a chip on one end of the ball.The other end of the ball touches/crosses the goalline (not the end with the chip).

How does this solve things???

 

[3nOut]

I am sure this has already been thought of, and it may have been mentioned in one of the super bowl threads.

Why can't they put some sort of chip in the ball to be able to know exactly where it is? And then some kind of sensors on the goal line? Remember when they had the hockey puck leave trails? Wasn't there was a chip in it.

I would think Paul Alen could get the people over at Microsoft to invent something for the greater good of the game. I think we can all admit that the cameras just are not cutting it. Every time there is a close play the call on the field stands, because the cameras suck so bad there is not enough evidence to overturn.

i thought of this before, but just where would you place the chip? one tip? both? what if the ball is sideways or at an angle? That means you'd have to place chips around the entire circumference of the ball as well as both ends because you dont know how the ball will end up on the ground. They would also have to make sure it doesn't interfere with the weight, balance and dynamic of te ball. They still have to throw it accurately. Is it possible? Sure.

 

[Quez]

I see how there would be some obstacles, but technology is pretty advanced.

 

[msommer]

how about this:

We put a chip in either end of the ball, make sure they are circular and angled so the flight characteristics are unchanged.

Two chips gives us angle and position.

The real trick will be to get access to the military positioning sattelites to get the millimeter precision needed to see if the ball broke the plane.

I am pretty sure the Pentagon brass will see the benefit of ending dubious calls on spotting in football

(In case anyone was wondering that was )

 

[dickey moe]

Fans, welcome to ROLLERBALL!!!

 

[jcjets]

I'm sure they could put a chip in each tip of the ball to create a magnetic field around the whole ball. Have a sensor, like garage doors have, on the goal lines. If the ball crosses the line something happens. Each team can customize the reaction.

Tamps can have cannons fire.

Carolina can have a Panther growl.

The Jets could have...Well lets work on crossing the line first.

 

[3C's]

I would think Paul Alen could get the people over at Microsoft to invent something for the greater good of the game.

If M$ was asked to develop it, it would have to be recalled and patched about 10 times before they got it right. Seriously though, how about a wire that runs the length of the ball. Then the yard markers and the goallines have sensors to detect the ball crossing the "imaginary" line.

 

[brettdj]

How will we know when the runner is down?

 

[LHUCKS]

This is going to happen within the next 10 years.

 

[Quez]

How will we know when the runner is down?

I didn't think about that. How about replace every players knee caps with robotic ones that have sensors.

 

[Napoleon Dynamite]

No player sensors are needed.

Just have the ball position recorded constantly. When the player is down (much easier to see on film then the exact position of the ball), check the tape for the exact second his knee hit the ground... then see where the ball was at that precise time.

 

[BigTex]

I am sure this has already been thought of, and it may have been mentioned in one of the super bowl threads.

Why can't they put some sort of chip in the ball to be able to know exactly where it is? And then some kind of sensors on the goal line? Remember when they had the hockey puck leave trails? Wasn't there was a chip in it.

I would think Paul Alen could get the people over at Microsoft to invent something for the greater good of the game. I think we can all admit that the cameras just are not cutting it. Every time there is a close play the call on the field stands, because the cameras suck so bad there is not enough evidence to overturn.

Because it may replace the refs, and then who will we blame our losses on?

 

[azgroover]

End zone controversies aside, I've been calling for something like this for years. With all of the technology available, it always baffles me that the best thing we can do to measure first downs is the "chain gang".

 

[jetpack]

This would be the "Maddenizing" of the modern football game for a generation that feels as though no error should exist in the real game because it doesn't in the EA Sports version.

I say not only do we NOT have a chip, but we dump the Yellow Line and Instant Replay.

I often wonder if this year's bad refereeing was really bad, or were fan's expectations were entirely unreasonable. I mean, generations and generations of football fans learned to deal with mistakes and close calls but somehow this generation can't.

Just my take.

 

[trader jake]

This would be the "Maddenizing" of the modern football game for a generation that feels as though no error should exist in the real game because it doesn't in the EA Sports version.

I say not only do we NOT have a chip, but we dump the Yellow Line and Instant Replay.

I often wonder if this year's bad refereeing was really bad, or were fan's expectations were entirely unreasonable. I mean, generations and generations of football fans learned to deal with mistakes and close calls but somehow this generation can't.

Just my take.

i agreetoo bad people who fail to embrace technology are ALWAYS left behind. don't be that guy my man. i agree - roll with the punches but strive for improvement, not acceptance

i also believe that this will occur in the next 10 seasons

 

[Fishnic]

I am sure this has already been thought of, and it may have been mentioned in one of the super bowl threads.

another chip mention

 

[jeff_eaglz]

I've been calling for this for years, but there are tech issues.

You'd have to have a way to synch up the spot with the whistle or something, or again go to video replay.

As for automatic firing of cannons and such - that wouldn't work. What about a player forgetting the play is over and walking the ball in to the end zone for the heck of it? BLAM!!

If you have two "chips" in either end of the ball, they could determine the position.

The obstacles to this are the G-forces that the ball would feel and the impact of the sensors to the ball itself. This is why they can't put an RFID / chip inside a golf ball to locate an errant shot, since a driver hits the ball (should, that is) all the way to the core with a lot of G force and would destroy the sensor (and change the flight of the ball).

It is a very good idea and one that will eventually come.

For that matter, lasers shooting straight up above the goal posts would make sense as well (for field goals flying over the post). Easy calls then.

 

[Native]

The WTA uses senors to determine if a shot in tennis is in or out. Similar idea.

 

[Kosar]

I don't think this will ever happen. Spotting the ball and calling touchdowns are a MAJOR part of being an official. The NFL would never take that much human element away from the game.

 

[JAA]

Theres the buzzer in tennis. Players hated it

 

[jeff_eaglz]

I don't think this will ever happen. Spotting the ball and calling touchdowns are a MAJOR part of being an official. The NFL would never take that much human element away from the game.

They said that about baseball and they have a machine working at it already (although not official).

 

[loqutis]

This is a huge can of worms. Soon after people are going to want chips in the players knee pads, elbow pads (which will be required gear for all players) then they have to add it to shoes so we make sure the two feet were actually down before he went out of bounds. then of course tis means sideline sensors. Oh and then everyone will have to wear gloves so they can detect pass interference. Which means sensors on the WRs jersey. So if you're going to do that you mights as well issue the same jerseys to D-Linemen so they can detect offensive holding.

Hell with it... just have robots play the game this would solve everything.

then again they'll be charges of juices robot engines and of course sensor chip tampering.

Never mind. Let the old guys do their best and live with some missed calls.

 

[loqutis]

This would be the "Maddenizing" of the modern football game for a generation that feels as though no error should exist in the real game because it doesn't in the EA Sports version.

I say not only do we NOT have a chip, but we dump the Yellow Line and Instant Replay.

I often wonder if this year's bad refereeing was really bad, or were fan's expectations were entirely unreasonable. I mean, generations and generations of football fans learned to deal with mistakes and close calls but somehow this generation can't.

Just my take.

If anything, I'm impressed with how many calls the refs actually get right. that's a lot to see in a split second. Remember they don't have the luxury of looking at the play at 1/20 the speed on a big screen TV before they need to make an instant decision

 

[Quez]

Because it may replace the refs, and then who will we blame our losses on?

 

[jonessed]

This would be the "Maddenizing" of the modern football game for a generation that feels as though no error should exist in the real game because it doesn't in the EA Sports version.

I say not only do we NOT have a chip, but we dump the Yellow Line and Instant Replay.

I often wonder if this year's bad refereeing was really bad, or were fan's expectations were entirely unreasonable.  I mean, generations and generations of football fans learned to deal with mistakes and close calls but somehow this generation can't.

Just my take.

What's wrong with change ? If there is an easy way to register where the ball ends up then we should be using it. I don't see a problem with striving to put more of the game in the player's hands and less in the refs.

 

[Kosar]

I don't think this will ever happen.  Spotting the ball and calling touchdowns are a MAJOR part of being an official.  The NFL would never take that much human element away from the game.

They said that about baseball and they have a machine working at it already (although not official).

That thing has cooled down a lot.