I wonder if the disparity in number of games keeps it "fresh".Atlanta Braves avg attendance - 31,755
Atlanta United avg attendance - 46,482
I still hear a lot of people complain about soccer as a sport--more so than football, basketball, baseball and hockey.Atlanta Braves avg attendance - 31,755
Atlanta United avg attendance - 46,482
The offsides rule in hockey and soccer is CommunistThree main reasons IMO: American sports fan does not like the concept of a tie game. There is not enough scoring. The diving and faking of injuries.
Only the 3rd reason bothers me. And I love the sport.
Do the hair and clothes look funny where you are? Is Bill Clinton President?I think spending an hour and 45 minutes is enough for consuming something. I can't no longer sit through a 4 hour baseball game.
I don't think so but happy to be wrong. Those numbers will probably stay roughly the same - I think there will be about 50% the number of games but I'm willing to concede that most of those are weekend - maybe it would be a more fair comparison to do Braves weekend games attendance but I'm not going to bother to look. Also, I'm not claiming it's more popular - I was just pointing out the idea that soccer hasn't caught on is ridiculous.I wonder if the disparity in number of games keeps it "fresh".
- Daniel ToshIf you like soccer, then welcome to America. See, our country already has entertainment so watching people chase a ball for four hours to end 0 - 0 is not enjoyable -- unless, of course, the bleachers collapse and half of Europe dies.
22 teams in Major League SoccerIt has.
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Braves 81 home games.Atlanta Braves avg attendance - 31,755
Atlanta United avg attendance - 46,482
Yet tv revenues keep increasing.Because in soccer you can't go to a commercial every 2 minutes. Less advertisement revenue. Probably not sustainable.
I agree with you, there's way too many baseball games.Braves 81 home games.
United 17 home games.
Probably. If there were only 17 home games they would all be sellouts.Yet tv revenues keep increasing.
I agree with you, there's way too many baseball games.
Just to reiterate the point - I'm not claiming soccer is more popular than baseball - I'm saying that soccer not catching on is ridiculous.Braves 81 home games.
United 17 home games.
The English PL TV deal is worth about $4b a year.Because in soccer you can't go to a commercial every 2 minutes. Less advertisement revenue. Probably not sustainable.
In a country where Kid Rock is a serious candidate for senate, I don't think this argument holds up very well.Maybe if you start calling it football, like the rest of the world...
right, we are a huge country. there are a ton of people who don't like any specific sport.Lots of people don't like soccer and that's cool. It's a big world, different strokes, and etc.
But it's already caught on in the US.
No wonder @roadkill1292 is such a fan.The offsides rule in hockey and soccer is Communist
There is thatIn a country where Kid Rock is a serious candidate for senate, I don't think this argument holds up very well.
James, I think you would be surprised how much soccer is on tv. There is more soccer and more leagues on TV in the US than in any country in the world now. And that has all happened in just the past ten years. I don't know how it compares to the big 3 but that really does not matter. The amount available is more than any person could ever watch.I think it's because you can't use your hands (I'm being for real) and there isn't enough direct action. Plus, soccer isn't as readily available to watch on tv as the other big 3 and therefore people can't learn the game as readily.
I used to be firmly in the no like camp but now I enjoy watching it very much.
My son disagrees with that last sentence...James, I think you would be surprised how much soccer is on tv. There is more soccer and more leagues on TV in the US than in any country in the world now. And that has all happened in just the past ten years. I don't know how it compares to the big 3 but that really does not matter. The amount available is more than any person could ever watch.
I guess ascots are out of the question, then...Settling for ties is unAmerican and the sport never overcame that
Palermo for the win. Can't beat the Pink Shirts.
We've come a LONG way from mid-late 90's-early 2k's, where the best way to follow the EPL was through hopefully finding a UK internet radio stream, or watching David Beckham's World Cup clinching free kick winner for England in 2001 on Pay-Per-View (that's if you didn't want to pay a $20 cover at a bar who had the satellite feed). And maybe one champions league game a week on TV with Tommy Smyth bulging the ol onion bag, that is if it wasn't pre-empted.James, I think you would be surprised how much soccer is on tv. There is more soccer and more leagues on TV in the US than in any country in the world now. And that has all happened in just the past ten years. I don't know how it compares to the big 3 but that really does not matter. The amount available is more than any person could ever watch.
and as Rob noted earlier, it fine not to like the sport. If that is the posters angle, then run with it. So yeah, the entire premise really seems out of date.Was coming in to post that I think the premise here is off, but it's been covered.
This is kind of it. The powers that be can't make the money they'd like off of it, so they don't promote it.Because in soccer you can't go to a commercial every 2 minutes. Less advertisement revenue. Probably not sustainable.
How dare you!! Who are you to judge?!?NutterButter said:Soccer fans are a very sensitive bunch and maybe rightfully so. Their sport has been persecuted for far too long.
Yeah, and I'm not a huge fan. I appreciate some of the European club teams, but I'd live just fine, sporting-wise, if soccer were relegated back to those old PBS Saturday games and halftime highlights from around the EPL.and as Rob noted earlier, it fine not to like the sport. If that is the posters angle, then run with it. So yeah, the entire premise really seems out of date.
This has to be one of the most idiotic arguments I have seen on this board.MLS has a higher attendance average than both the NBA and NHL (yes with less games)
This is kind of it. The powers that be can't make the money they'd like off of it, so they don't promote it.
I am not arguing that soccer is more popular than those sports, I am arguing that plenty of people attend soccer games in the US as a counter point to the sport not catching on.This has to be one of the most idiotic arguments I have seen on this board.