Why is the NE-NYG line falling? (1 Viewer)

[Cheesedawg]

http://covers.usatoday.com/data/odds.aspx

After opening at 14.5, the line is now 13.5 most places with a low of 13. Why would anybody think Eli can match TD's with Brady? Seems like this line should be climbing, not falling.

I can't imagine NE winning by less than 3 TD's. The Giants have a decent D but they aren't going to stop NE. The Giants have lost their last three home games by 12 (Wash), 24 (Minn), and 11 (Dallas). I can't see how they will stay within close range of the Pats. Brady is going for the TD record and NE is going for a perfect season...the Pats will be more motivated in this game than in any they've played. I think the NE goal will be build the lead to 35+ so they can take Brady out for the second half.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

http://covers.usatoday.com/data/odds.aspx

After opening at 14.5, the line is now 13.5 most places with a low of 13. Why would anybody think Eli can match TD's with Brady? Seems like this line should be climbing, not falling.

I can't imagine NE winning by less than 3 TD's. The Giants have a decent D but they aren't going to stop NE. The Giants have lost their last three home games by 12 (Wash), 24 (Minn), and 11 (Dallas). I can't see how they will stay within close range of the Pats. Brady is going for the TD record and NE is going for a perfect season...the Pats will be more motivated in this game than in any they've played. I think the NE goal will be build the lead to 35+ so they can take Brady out for the second half.

Game between NY-Boston team brings out the money.Mostly NY money.

 

[Topes]

Giants have done a good job suggesting they'll play to win, FWIW.

 

[Footballg]

eckel is out.

 

[bostonfred]

If I were betting this game, I'd probably take the Giants. There's not much motivation for the Patriots to leave Brady in in a blowout against the Giants. In fact, it's very possible that he will come in, try to throw two TD passes to Moss, and then sit the rest of the game unless it's competitive.

The chances of the Giants winning might be fairly slim, but so are the chances of the Pats winning by 30+. The most likely outcome is somewhere between Pats win by 3 and Pats win by 21. That leaves a lot more room for the Giants to beat this spread.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

If I were betting this game, I'd probably take the Giants. There's not much motivation for the Patriots to leave Brady in in a blowout against the Giants. In fact, it's very possible that he will come in, try to throw two TD passes to Moss, and then sit the rest of the game unless it's competitive. The chances of the Giants winning might be fairly slim, but so are the chances of the Pats winning by 30+. The most likely outcome is somewhere between Pats win by 3 and Pats win by 21. That leaves a lot more room for the Giants to beat this spread.

Can I be your bookie?Please bet big on this game.

 

[bostonfred]

If I were betting this game, I'd probably take the Giants. There's not much motivation for the Patriots to leave Brady in in a blowout against the Giants. In fact, it's very possible that he will come in, try to throw two TD passes to Moss, and then sit the rest of the game unless it's competitive. The chances of the Giants winning might be fairly slim, but so are the chances of the Pats winning by 30+. The most likely outcome is somewhere between Pats win by 3 and Pats win by 21. That leaves a lot more room for the Giants to beat this spread.

Can I be your bookie?Please bet big on this game.

I wouldn't bet this game with your money. The Giants have nothing to play for except pride, and they'll try to keep it competitive, but they could just as easily bench their starters and rest them for next week's game. They'll also be playing in front of a hostile crowd at home (since a ton of tickets have been purchased by Patriots fans). The Pats obviously want to win the game, and probably want Brady and Moss to hook up twice, but have nothing else to play for. If the Giants bench their starters in the second half (and it has been suggested by many analysts that they will do so if they're down by 10+) then the Pats bench their starters a little earlier, too.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

If I were betting this game, I'd probably take the Giants. There's not much motivation for the Patriots to leave Brady in in a blowout against the Giants. In fact, it's very possible that he will come in, try to throw two TD passes to Moss, and then sit the rest of the game unless it's competitive. The chances of the Giants winning might be fairly slim, but so are the chances of the Pats winning by 30+. The most likely outcome is somewhere between Pats win by 3 and Pats win by 21. That leaves a lot more room for the Giants to beat this spread.

Can I be your bookie?Please bet big on this game.

I wouldn't bet this game with your money. The Giants have nothing to play for except pride, and they'll try to keep it competitive, but they could just as easily bench their starters and rest them for next week's game. They'll also be playing in front of a hostile crowd at home (since a ton of tickets have been purchased by Patriots fans). The Pats obviously want to win the game, and probably want Brady and Moss to hook up twice, but have nothing else to play for. If the Giants bench their starters in the second half (and it has been suggested by many analysts that they will do so if they're down by 10+) then the Pats bench their starters a little earlier, too.

N.E by 24. Bank it. But to play it safe I'll give the 13 1/2 points.

 

[Cheesedawg]

If I were betting this game, I'd probably take the Giants. There's not much motivation for the Patriots to leave Brady in in a blowout against the Giants. In fact, it's very possible that he will come in, try to throw two TD passes to Moss, and then sit the rest of the game unless it's competitive. The chances of the Giants winning might be fairly slim, but so are the chances of the Pats winning by 30+. The most likely outcome is somewhere between Pats win by 3 and Pats win by 21. That leaves a lot more room for the Giants to beat this spread.

For the Pats, a "blowout" is 30+ points, maybe more. Belichick has had MANY opportunities to ease up with a big lead this year and hasn't done it yet, usually throwing the ball downfield all the way to the end. Might he be more apt to ease players out in week 17? Yes, but I think he won't think his 16-0 record is safe until he is up 4 touchdowns and the Giants have pulled their players out. I say the margin range is more like Pats to win by 17 to 38.

 

[Maroney=Speed]

If I were betting this game, I'd probably take the Giants. There's not much motivation for the Patriots to leave Brady in in a blowout against the Giants. In fact, it's very possible that he will come in, try to throw two TD passes to Moss, and then sit the rest of the game unless it's competitive. The chances of the Giants winning might be fairly slim, but so are the chances of the Pats winning by 30+. The most likely outcome is somewhere between Pats win by 3 and Pats win by 21. That leaves a lot more room for the Giants to beat this spread.

For the Pats, a "blowout" is 30+ points, maybe more. Belichick has had MANY opportunities to ease up with a big lead this year and hasn't done it yet, usually throwing the ball downfield all the way to the end. Might he be more apt to ease players out in week 17? Yes, but I think he won't think his 16-0 record is safe until he is up 4 touchdowns and the Giants have pulled their players out. I say the margin range is more like Pats to win by 17 to 38.

You my friend have won a bet once or twice in your life.Your target is right on.

 

[bcr8f]

Right side of the Pats offensive line is out.

 

[richn]

If the line is dropping, they are trying to get you to bet the Giants..playing with the betting publics mind. This is a national game with the whole country betting NE. Moving the line towards NY will get some people over thinking this and "outsmart" vegas and bet NY....and lose.

 

[freelander]

If I were betting this game, I'd probably take the Giants. There's not much motivation for the Patriots to leave Brady in in a blowout against the Giants. In fact, it's very possible that he will come in, try to throw two TD passes to Moss, and then sit the rest of the game unless it's competitive. The chances of the Giants winning might be fairly slim, but so are the chances of the Pats winning by 30+. The most likely outcome is somewhere between Pats win by 3 and Pats win by 21. That leaves a lot more room for the Giants to beat this spread.

For the Pats, a "blowout" is 30+ points, maybe more. Belichick has had MANY opportunities to ease up with a big lead this year and hasn't done it yet, usually throwing the ball downfield all the way to the end. Might he be more apt to ease players out in week 17? Yes, but I think he won't think his 16-0 record is safe until he is up 4 touchdowns and the Giants have pulled their players out. I say the margin range is more like Pats to win by 17 to 38.

this game means more to Pats then Gmen --- they'll have the record book check-off list on the side-line and will keep Brady in the 4th quarter if needed to complete the list. Maybe the line is falling (as noted in above scenerio) with the increased likelihood of a Brady sack, injury and fumble return for TD late in game...

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

eckel is out.

 

[Jeff Pasquino]

Pats by 20+.

 

[TxBuckeye]

N.E by 24. Bank it. But to play it safe I'll give the 13 1/2 points.

So how much did you put down on the Pats exactly?

 

[Raider Nation]

If I were betting this game, I'd probably take the Giants. There's not much motivation for the Patriots to leave Brady in in a blowout against the Giants. In fact, it's very possible that he will come in, try to throw two TD passes to Moss, and then sit the rest of the game unless it's competitive. The chances of the Giants winning might be fairly slim, but so are the chances of the Pats winning by 30+. The most likely outcome is somewhere between Pats win by 3 and Pats win by 21. That leaves a lot more room for the Giants to beat this spread.

Can I be your bookie?`Please bet big on this game.

I wouldn't bet this game with your money. The Giants have nothing to play for except pride, and they'll try to keep it competitive, but they could just as easily bench their starters and rest them for next week's game. They'll also be playing in front of a hostile crowd at home (since a ton of tickets have been purchased by Patriots fans). The Pats obviously want to win the game, and probably want Brady and Moss to hook up twice, but have nothing else to play for. If the Giants bench their starters in the second half (and it has been suggested by many analysts that they will do so if they're down by 10+) then the Pats bench their starters a little earlier, too.

N.E by 24. Bank it. But to play it safe I'll give the 13 1/2 points.

This is why all of those shiny new hotels are built in Vegas every day.

 

[[scooter]]

If I were betting this game, I'd probably take the Giants. There's not much motivation for the Patriots to leave Brady in in a blowout against the Giants. In fact, it's very possible that he will come in, try to throw two TD passes to Moss, and then sit the rest of the game unless it's competitive.

The chances of the Giants winning might be fairly slim, but so are the chances of the Pats winning by 30+. The most likely outcome is somewhere between Pats win by 3 and Pats win by 21. That leaves a lot more room for the Giants to beat this spread.

Can I be your bookie?Please bet big on this game.

I wouldn't bet this game with your money. The Giants have nothing to play for except pride, and they'll try to keep it competitive, but they could just as easily bench their starters and rest them for next week's game. They'll also be playing in front of a hostile crowd at home (since a ton of tickets have been purchased by Patriots fans). The Pats obviously want to win the game, and probably want Brady and Moss to hook up twice, but have nothing else to play for. If the Giants bench their starters in the second half (and it has been suggested by many analysts that they will do so if they're down by 10+) then the Pats bench their starters a little earlier, too.

N.E by 24. Bank it. But to play it safe I'll give the 13 1/2 points.

Can I be your bookie?

 

[Maroney=Speed]

If I were betting this game, I'd probably take the Giants. There's not much motivation for the Patriots to leave Brady in in a blowout against the Giants. In fact, it's very possible that he will come in, try to throw two TD passes to Moss, and then sit the rest of the game unless it's competitive. The chances of the Giants winning might be fairly slim, but so are the chances of the Pats winning by 30+. The most likely outcome is somewhere between Pats win by 3 and Pats win by 21. That leaves a lot more room for the Giants to beat this spread.

Can I be your bookie?Please bet big on this game.

I wouldn't bet this game with your money. The Giants have nothing to play for except pride, and they'll try to keep it competitive, but they could just as easily bench their starters and rest them for next week's game. They'll also be playing in front of a hostile crowd at home (since a ton of tickets have been purchased by Patriots fans). The Pats obviously want to win the game, and probably want Brady and Moss to hook up twice, but have nothing else to play for. If the Giants bench their starters in the second half (and it has been suggested by many analysts that they will do so if they're down by 10+) then the Pats bench their starters a little earlier, too.

I was wrong.Good thing you talked me out of it.I reread your post and said, this guy knows something I don't. Another good thing is Pats are 16-0!

 

[Newslang]

If I were betting this game, I'd probably take the Giants. There's not much motivation for the Patriots to leave Brady in in a blowout against the Giants. In fact, it's very possible that he will come in, try to throw two TD passes to Moss, and then sit the rest of the game unless it's competitive. The chances of the Giants winning might be fairly slim, but so are the chances of the Pats winning by 30+. The most likely outcome is somewhere between Pats win by 3 and Pats win by 21. That leaves a lot more room for the Giants to beat this spread.

Can I be your bookie?Please bet big on this game.

I wouldn't bet this game with your money. The Giants have nothing to play for except pride, and they'll try to keep it competitive, but they could just as easily bench their starters and rest them for next week's game. They'll also be playing in front of a hostile crowd at home (since a ton of tickets have been purchased by Patriots fans). The Pats obviously want to win the game, and probably want Brady and Moss to hook up twice, but have nothing else to play for. If the Giants bench their starters in the second half (and it has been suggested by many analysts that they will do so if they're down by 10+) then the Pats bench their starters a little earlier, too.

I was wrong.Good thing you talked me out of it.I reread your post and said, this guy knows something I don't. Another good thing is Pats are 16-0!

Nice try.

 

[Raider Nation]

If I were betting this game, I'd probably take the Giants. There's not much motivation for the Patriots to leave Brady in in a blowout against the Giants. In fact, it's very possible that he will come in, try to throw two TD passes to Moss, and then sit the rest of the game unless it's competitive. The chances of the Giants winning might be fairly slim, but so are the chances of the Pats winning by 30+. The most likely outcome is somewhere between Pats win by 3 and Pats win by 21. That leaves a lot more room for the Giants to beat this spread.

Can I be your bookie?Please bet big on this game.

I wouldn't bet this game with your money. The Giants have nothing to play for except pride, and they'll try to keep it competitive, but they could just as easily bench their starters and rest them for next week's game. They'll also be playing in front of a hostile crowd at home (since a ton of tickets have been purchased by Patriots fans). The Pats obviously want to win the game, and probably want Brady and Moss to hook up twice, but have nothing else to play for. If the Giants bench their starters in the second half (and it has been suggested by many analysts that they will do so if they're down by 10+) then the Pats bench their starters a little earlier, too.

I was wrong.Good thing you talked me out of it.I reread your post and said, this guy knows something I don't. Another good thing is Pats are 16-0!

Nice try.

AZCARDS33... is that you???

 

[Doug B]

Why did people think this was going to be a blowout? Pats haven't been blowing out teams all that regularly since before the Eagles game. What's the Patriots' record against the spread since that game?

 

[Maroney=Speed]

If I were betting this game, I'd probably take the Giants. There's not much motivation for the Patriots to leave Brady in in a blowout against the Giants. In fact, it's very possible that he will come in, try to throw two TD passes to Moss, and then sit the rest of the game unless it's competitive. The chances of the Giants winning might be fairly slim, but so are the chances of the Pats winning by 30+. The most likely outcome is somewhere between Pats win by 3 and Pats win by 21. That leaves a lot more room for the Giants to beat this spread.

Can I be your bookie?Please bet big on this game.

I wouldn't bet this game with your money. The Giants have nothing to play for except pride, and they'll try to keep it competitive, but they could just as easily bench their starters and rest them for next week's game. They'll also be playing in front of a hostile crowd at home (since a ton of tickets have been purchased by Patriots fans). The Pats obviously want to win the game, and probably want Brady and Moss to hook up twice, but have nothing else to play for. If the Giants bench their starters in the second half (and it has been suggested by many analysts that they will do so if they're down by 10+) then the Pats bench their starters a little earlier, too.

I was wrong.Good thing you talked me out of it.I reread your post and said, this guy knows something I don't. Another good thing is Pats are 16-0!

Nice try.

AZCARDS33... is that you???

Yep, you got me. Next week I'll give ya my playoff picks.

 

[RedRaiders]

Why did people think this was going to be a blowout? Pats haven't been blowing out teams all that regularly since before the Eagles game. What's the Patriots' record against the spread since that game?

They are now 1-5 ATS in their last 6 games - they did cover against Pittsburgh.Great work by the shark pool public in here I never tire of the "can I be your bookie?" line

 

[SSOG]

Why did people think this was going to be a blowout? Pats haven't been blowing out teams all that regularly since before the Eagles game. What's the Patriots' record against the spread since that game?

They are now 1-5 ATS in their last 6 games - they did cover against Pittsburgh.Great work by the shark pool public in here I never tire of the "can I be your bookie?" line

It's funny, because the Pittsburgh game was the one game during that span where people were saying "man, no way do the Patriots blow out their opponent". The one time the public wasn't embracing a Pats blowout was the one time the Pats actually posted a blowout. Vegas has no doubt been laughing all the way to the bank at all of the so-called football experts thinking they knew better.

 

[T Love]

Anyone know what the Pats were overall against the spread this year?