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Why is Tom Brady punting the ball up 35 points? (1 Viewer)
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Short Corner
Footballguy
3) Give whoever they play next something else to think about/prepare for.
togo
Footballguy
Classless?? It's obvious anything would have upset you here. It was 3rd which you mistakenly said it was 4th down, (however it sounds like that didn't matter to you to either) but if they went for it on 4th you would have said THAT was classless too I'm sure.
Having Brady in the game still?? Well one could debate that, but Bill has been very consistent in that aspect of the game over the years. He RARELY EVER takes Brady out of the game in blowouts!! He says it's the other teams job to stop them. This is not high school football. These are professionals, they are paid to do what they do and it's the other team's job to stop them.
Classless on that play would have been the Denver's cheap shot and 2 personal fouls on that play. That was the classless call there.
Having Brady in the game still?? Well one could debate that, but Bill has been very consistent in that aspect of the game over the years. He RARELY EVER takes Brady out of the game in blowouts!! He says it's the other teams job to stop them. This is not high school football. These are professionals, they are paid to do what they do and it's the other team's job to stop them.
Classless on that play would have been the Denver's cheap shot and 2 personal fouls on that play. That was the classless call there.
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KarmaPolice
Footballguy
You must be a Steeler fan. Seems like only they get THIS worked up over everything the Patriots do.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
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Mile High
Footballguy
People? There's one person who seems upset.Perspective. Sweet.
Borat
Footballguy
*Disciples
theplayer11
Footballguy
here is what fans from crappy teams do not understand. Belichick uses the entire game to learn things, experiment, try guys in different positions.The info he gathers may help in future games. It's really that simple..but haters will hate...jealousy is a strong emotion.
AmosMoses
Footballguy
This isn't about class at all. Every play is a learning experience. You get a finite number of plays. Take advantage when you can. I'm sure BB and Brady want to be as fine tuned as possible for each game. You don't do that by sitting back and not taking advantage of every opportunity to learn that you can.
Carver
Footballguy
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But you didn't know all the ways I loved you, no
So you took a chance
And made other plans
But I bet you didn't think that they would come crashing down, no
You don't have to say, what you did,
I already know, I found out from him
Now there's just no chance, for you and me, there'll never be
And don't it make you sad about it
You told me you loved me
Why did you leave me, all alone
Now you tell me you need me
When you call me, on the phone
Girl I refuse, you must have me confused
With some other guy
Your bridges were burned, and now it's your turn
To cry, cry me a river
Cry me a river-er
Cry me a river
Cry me a river-er, yea yea
I know that they say
That somethings are better left unsaid
It wasn't like you only talked to him and you know it
(Don't act like you don't know it)
All of these things people told me
Keep messing with my head
(Messing with my head)
You should've picked honesty
Then you may not have blown it
(Yea..)
You don't have to say, what you did,
(Don't have to say, what you did)
I already know, I found out from him
(I already know, uh)
Now there's just no chance, for you and me, there'll never be
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And don't it make you sad about it
You told me you loved me
Why did you leave me, all alone
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Now you tell me you need me
When you call me, on the phone
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Girl I refuse, you must have me confused
With some other guy
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To cry, cry me a river
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Cry me a river
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Cry me a river-er, yea yea
Oh
(Oh)
The damage is done
So I guess I be leaving
Oh
(Oh)
The damage is done
So I guess I be leaving
Oh
(Oh)
The damage is done
So I guess I be leaving
Oh
(Oh)
The damage is done
So I guess I be... leaving
You don't have to say, what you did,
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I already know, I found out from him
(I already know, uh)
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Arrogant -making claims or pretensions to superior importance or rights; overbearingly assuming; insolently proud:
an arrogant public official.
Have you every listened to a BB presser? Or Brady? What is arrogant about it? Take a listen to his presser leading up to the Indy game this year as BB rips a report for asking about what can he possible learn from playing a win less team. Do you see what BB wears? Does he beat his chest. I don't see any of this is being arrogant but he is consumed to do everything possible to prepare HIS team to not lose.
Teams and coaches that are arrogant to me would be "this is the way we do things" and not adapting to the opponent or for that matter trying to take away their strengths but doing it the " insert team name here way". This is why NE under BB has done well. He tries to adapt to beat the team they play this week - match ups. It doesn't always work especially in the playoffs the last few years. But it did last night.
So was Pittsburgh arrogant in how they game planned Denver last week? 8-9 in the box and not respecting the pass? Were they doing what worked for NE in second half of their earlier game with Denver or what KC had done the week before? Or were they merely trying to take away Denver's strength?
As fans we have a winner and a loser each week. We project that on to the players of those teams and then take it too far with the Brady, Manning, Brees, Rodgers, etc. debates. All of these guys are truly GREAT at what they do but it comes down to a couple of plays most every week. A missed block, a tipped ball, a slip WR/DB. We are often splitting hairs between them and to often miss out on what magic they show when they perform.
NE_REVIVAL
Footballguy
It appears that you have not started a Topic in almost a full calendar year and a 3rd down punt is your inspiration?First of all, it wasn't 4th down it was 3rd.I honestly do not understand why punting on 3rd down would be a big deal to anyone. NE called off the dogs and in doing so they may have felt it made sense to just try and pin DEN back as deep as they could. How\why in the wide world of sports is that a crime against humanity?What Brady last pass and record are you referring to? The only Brady record I am aware of from last night is the 6 td passes. That td pass occured early in the 3rd and they easily could have gone for the record early in the 4th, but instead chose to just run the ball.
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grateful zed
Footballguy
dickinson's was good too.
DropKick
Footballguy
So just because you don't understand something the only explanation is arrogance? First of all, it was 3rd down... 3rd and 10... it's called a "quick kick". The surprise element actually helps the offense in two way; the QB doesn't take the chance of being hit and there is no punt return. So, actually, New England was being quite conservative.
Gopher State
Footballguy
12punch
Footballguy
What was doing was clearly just the equivalent of running up the score ---on when you run up the score all you're doing is letting your offense make the other team look silly to embarrass them, so what brady cleverly did was give tebow back the ball so the pats defense could make him look silly to embarrass him.
John Bender
Footballguy
this place is amazing some times.Thanks for this post
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
I had just assumed this was a sarcastic joke thread posted up just to troll pats fans, but I recently heard some nutty guy on the radio with the same opinion.
I still think people must be making this up for whatever reason, but is there really some nutty segment of the population that thinks this was anything other than just another football play, and what is the reasoning there?
it's got to be just trolling pats fans, but I can't even figure out how you'd come up with the idea in the first place.
I still think people must be making this up for whatever reason, but is there really some nutty segment of the population that thinks this was anything other than just another football play, and what is the reasoning there?
it's got to be just trolling pats fans, but I can't even figure out how you'd come up with the idea in the first place.
Shutout
Footballguy
No, you're thinking of it completely backwards. The Patriots are 1 game away from playing for the world championship. More than anything, they don't want anyone getting hurt and that extends beyond tom Brady. This team has had a lot of dings in the offensive line. They do NOT want to put in an inexperienced QB back there for mop up duty in this case because what would be the point? If something happens to Brady, its Hoyer, not mallett going in. They already know what they have in Hoyer. He doesnt' need 12-15 plays. But if you put Mallett in there then your already paper thin o-line has the responsibilty to play a few series against a very good defense that is extremely frustrated. this is the classic recipe for getting someone hurt late in a game. You've got a pissed off team pinning their ears back and just trying to hit someone, knowing that actually playing disciplined assignments means nothing, so what do they care if they roll up a lineman's leg or block him illegally and take out his knee? They don't.
So, with NO benefit of playing a guy for experience, you do the smart thing and get out of the game healthy. given the Broncos were blitzing, getting that unit off the field was a very smart thing to do.
SacramentoBob
Footballguy
He should've punted instead of throwing that INT.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Still in the game with less than 4:00 left, up 52-24. Punching in that last TD to make it 59-24 was crucial.
Run It Up
Footballguy
Only have one speed.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Luck picked off at the 2:00 warning. Plenty of time for another Brady TD pass.
sporthenry
Footballguy
If Brady gets hurt then BB gets crucified. But again, I don't see it in the rules where it says its his job to stop the Pats offense.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Really?
Phlash
Footballguy
I'd be surprised if the Boston sports media would do anything but just have a day of solace for Brady. They've been supportive of Belichick's decision to leave the foot on the gas... after the AFC Championship game vs the Colts game in the playoffs in 2006, no one in New England thinks its a good idea to let up if you're trying to win games.Seriously, the only people who would rip BB would include mostly non Patriots fans...
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
You may have missed the part about being up 52-24 with less than 4:00 left.HUCKS could have come in to relieve Brady and the Colts weren't coming close to winning.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Eeked out the win, though. Nice work, Bill!
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General Tso
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I'm at Pats fan, and on top of that I don't think me and Raider Nation have ever gotten along very well. But in this case, he is absolutely right. Belichek is a ####### idiot for leaving in his starters during blowouts like today. Someone said it in the Gronk thread - karma. Nice job Belidick.Eeked out the win, though. Nice work, Bill!
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Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I'm at Pats fan, and on top of that I don't think me and Raider Nation have ever gotten along very well. But in this case, he is absolutely right. Belichek is a ####### idiot for leavin in his starters during blowouts like today. Someone said itI the Gronk thread - karma. Nice job Belidick.Eeked out the win, though. Nice work, Bill!
I don't remember any prior beefs with you. But anyway... watch your step, buddy! 
oukurt
Footballguy
So was Gronk's injury. Were they up 35 when he broke his forearm? Horrible decision making.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
yeah, but it keeps him safe from harm until the playoffs.
BoomGoesTheDynamite
Footballguy
Is there any concern for Andrew Luck being in the game with the same score or can injuries only occur to the winning team in blowouts?I'm at Pats fan, and on top of that I don't think me and Raider Nation have ever gotten along very well. But in this case, he is absolutely right. Belichek is a ####### idiot for leaving in his starters during blowouts like today. Someone said it in the Gronk thread - karma. Nice job Belidick.Eeked out the win, though. Nice work, Bill!
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
nobody's pissed at luck for winning a lot of games yet, so we don't give a crap.Is there any concern for Andrew Luck being in the game with the same score or can injuries only occur to the winning team in blowouts?I'm at Pats fan, and on top of that I don't think me and Raider Nation have ever gotten along very well. But in this case, he is absolutely right. Belichek is a ####### idiot for leaving in his starters during blowouts like today. Someone said it in the Gronk thread - karma. Nice job Belidick.Eeked out the win, though. Nice work, Bill!
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Not at all. He's a rookie who needs as many NFL snaps as he can possibly get. Brady is one of the best all time with multiple league and SB MVPs under his belt, he doesn't need the reps. Star QBs do get benched all the time in blowouts to protect them from injury however they tend to be vets with more than 9 games in their careers.Is there any concern for Andrew Luck being in the game with the same score or can injuries only occur to the winning team in blowouts?I'm at Pats fan, and on top of that I don't think me and Raider Nation have ever gotten along very well. But in this case, he is absolutely right. Belichek is a ####### idiot for leaving in his starters during blowouts like today. Someone said it in the Gronk thread - karma. Nice job Belidick.Eeked out the win, though. Nice work, Bill!
BoomGoesTheDynamite
Footballguy
People are #####ing and moaning about Gronkowski being in the game who is all of 6 months older than Luck. At what age/tenure are players no longer supposed to be in blowouts for future reference?Not at all. He's a rookie who needs as many NFL snaps as he can possibly get. Brady is one of the best all time with multiple league and SB MVPs under his belt, he doesn't need the reps. Star QBs do get benched all the time in blowouts to protect them from injury however they tend to be vets with more than 9 games in their careers.Is there any concern for Andrew Luck being in the game with the same score or can injuries only occur to the winning team in blowouts?I'm at Pats fan, and on top of that I don't think me and Raider Nation have ever gotten along very well. But in this case, he is absolutely right. Belichek is a ####### idiot for leaving in his starters during blowouts like today. Someone said it in the Gronk thread - karma. Nice job Belidick.Eeked out the win, though. Nice work, Bill!
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General Tso
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Uh, is that a serious question? Of course it's equally moronic that Luck was in the game at that point. And not just because I was going up against him in my fantasy football game either. The NFL is a war of attrition. When the game is decided, pack it up so you can live to fight another day. In any other business if you treated your multi-million assets with this much stupidity you'd get fired.Is there any concern for Andrew Luck being in the game with the same score or can injuries only occur to the winning team in blowouts?I'm at Pats fan, and on top of that I don't think me and Raider Nation have ever gotten along very well. But in this case, he is absolutely right. Belichek is a ####### idiot for leaving in his starters during blowouts like today. Someone said it in the Gronk thread - karma. Nice job Belidick.Eeked out the win, though. Nice work, Bill!
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Here's a counter question. Do you know the difference between a 3rd year TE with 41 regular season starts and a rookie QB? Also, I spoke only of NFL experience, not age so where you got that little bratty whinefest question from, I'm not sure. But it does make me think you won't know the answer to my question.People are #####ing and moaning about Gronkowski being in the game who is all of 6 months older than Luck. At what age/tenure are players no longer supposed to be in blowouts for future reference?Not at all. He's a rookie who needs as many NFL snaps as he can possibly get. Brady is one of the best all time with multiple league and SB MVPs under his belt, he doesn't need the reps. Star QBs do get benched all the time in blowouts to protect them from injury however they tend to be vets with more than 9 games in their careers.Is there any concern for Andrew Luck being in the game with the same score or can injuries only occur to the winning team in blowouts?I'm at Pats fan, and on top of that I don't think me and Raider Nation have ever gotten along very well. But in this case, he is absolutely right. Belichek is a ####### idiot for leaving in his starters during blowouts like today. Someone said it in the Gronk thread - karma. Nice job Belidick.Eeked out the win, though. Nice work, Bill!
BoomGoesTheDynamite
Footballguy
Agreed but thats the point. People ##### about the Patriots but not other teams. If its moronic for the Patriots to do it then it is equally moronic for the Colts to do it. The fact that people have a different standard for different players/teams is the issue.Uh, is that a serious question? Of course it's equally moronic that Luck was in the game at that point. And not just because I was going up against him in my fantasy football game either. The NFL is a war of attrition. When the game is decided, pack it up so you can live to fight another day. In any other business if you treated your multi-million assets with this much stupidity you'd get fired.Is there any concern for Andrew Luck being in the game with the same score or can injuries only occur to the winning team in blowouts?I'm at Pats fan, and on top of that I don't think me and Raider Nation have ever gotten along very well. But in this case, he is absolutely right. Belichek is a ####### idiot for leaving in his starters during blowouts like today. Someone said it in the Gronk thread - karma. Nice job Belidick.Eeked out the win, though. Nice work, Bill!
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Wait. You are complaining about one of the best QB of all time punting the ball to the other team on 3rd down? 
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Can you provide a link to the last team that kept a player of Brady's caliber in the game late in a blowout?Agreed but thats the point. People ##### about the Patriots but not other teams. If its moronic for the Patriots to do it then it is equally moronic for the Colts to do it. The fact that people have a different standard for different players/teams is the issue.Uh, is that a serious question? Of course it's equally moronic that Luck was in the game at that point. And not just because I was going up against him in my fantasy football game either. The NFL is a war of attrition. When the game is decided, pack it up so you can live to fight another day. In any other business if you treated your multi-million assets with this much stupidity you'd get fired.Is there any concern for Andrew Luck being in the game with the same score or can injuries only occur to the winning team in blowouts?I'm at Pats fan, and on top of that I don't think me and Raider Nation have ever gotten along very well. But in this case, he is absolutely right. Belichek is a ####### idiot for leaving in his starters during blowouts like today. Someone said it in the Gronk thread - karma. Nice job Belidick.Eeked out the win, though. Nice work, Bill!
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