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Why is Warrick Done still the starter? (1 Viewer)
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From yahoo/kffl:
Sep 10 During his press conference, Atlanta Falcons head coach Bobby Petrino said he would like to make sure RB Jerious Norwood gets more touches. "We want to get the ball in Jerious' hands. He is a guy that has the speed and the ability to make big plays for us. We have to make sure that he gets more touches," said Petrino.
Sep 10 During his press conference, Atlanta Falcons head coach Bobby Petrino said he would like to make sure RB Jerious Norwood gets more touches. "We want to get the ball in Jerious' hands. He is a guy that has the speed and the ability to make big plays for us. We have to make sure that he gets more touches," said Petrino.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
Maybe Petrieno knows that Norwood can't carry the full load.
How do we know? He hasn't has the oppertunity yet. It still baffles me people have placed the stigma on this guy that he can't carry a full load when there isn't enough stats to date to warrant this thinking.
Anthony Borbely
Footballguy
He had 99 carries last year, missed 2 games and was banged up in a few others...has thin legs, and I just can't see him being physically able to take the pounding. I am done doingspurs44 said:
Smiledog11
Footballguy
I'm a Norwood owner and I believe he will get more touches. But, I think one of the biggest reasons that Dunn will remain a visible and integral part of the Falcons plans has nothing to do with performance on the field. With the Vick fiasco still so fresh in the minds of Arthur Blank, management and Atlanta fans, I believe the team would be very reluctant to simply replace Dunn. He's one of the league's most well-known philanthropists and the very definition of a professional. His charity work in Atlanta and Florida is well documented and to Blank, this season is as much a P.R. campaign as it is a quest for the Super Bowl.
Norwood is obviously the future, but unfortunately for Norwood owners such as myself, the future isn't now. I see a RBBC for this season with Norwood again showing big flashes but short of a Dunn injury, never getting the bulk of the carries.
Norwood is obviously the future, but unfortunately for Norwood owners such as myself, the future isn't now. I see a RBBC for this season with Norwood again showing big flashes but short of a Dunn injury, never getting the bulk of the carries.
fatboyj711
Footballguy
many atlanta natives would disagree with you there... petrino is not pulling a PR move by starting dunn over norwood... the best PR move would be winning some games, not playing musical RBs to be politically correct... it's obvious that petrino doesn't see norwood as an every down featured back (based on his offensive philosophy and the rbs he has featured in the past), and the only other guy on the roster capable of filling that role is dunn... i agree that norwood should get more touches, but i just don't see him getting 20+ touches a game...
cobalt_27
Footballguy
You must not be watching the games OR looking at the stat lines these days.Must be a Norwood owner.............Probably because Dunn is the better back and gives the team the better chance to win
Kevin Ashcraft
Footballguy
You would be better off looking at our own site than pimping competitors.....September 10, 2007, 16:37mrspree15 said:
Falcons :: RB
HC Petrino Wants More Work For RB Norwood
Steve Wyche, Atlanta Journal-Constitution - [Full Article]
Atlanta Falcons HC Bobby Petrino said Monday that he is going to have to incorporate RB Jerious Norwood more into the game plan. Norwood touched the ball just seven times against Minnesota, averaging 6.6 yards on 5 runs, along with 2 catches for 24 yards.
http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-bl...d=blogs_falcons
Banger
Footballguy
Maybe he can't pass protect...maybe he can't handle the pounding...maybe he's better getting a few carries fresh when the defense is more tired...maybe he's not smart enough to remember more than a handful of plays... I tend to lean toward the coach's who have been doing this for 20+ years and their decisions in matters like this since they see these players everyday and know what they can/can't do MUCH MUCH MUCH better than us fantasy geeks.spurs44 said:
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
I was so confused watching the stats of that Atl / Min game... it would be like Dunn for no gain / Dunn for 1 yd ..... then it would be Norwood for 7 ... then Dunn would get the next carry for 1 yd. I was like "come on."
The match up isn't much better against Jac... But Norwood should get atleast 15 carries this week.
Where are the Atl homers... there must be sometype of backlash over there for allowing one guy to go 22 for 55 yds while the younger; more exciting guy is 5 for 33 yds (almost a 7 YPC).
The match up isn't much better against Jac... But Norwood should get atleast 15 carries this week.
Where are the Atl homers... there must be sometype of backlash over there for allowing one guy to go 22 for 55 yds while the younger; more exciting guy is 5 for 33 yds (almost a 7 YPC).
Banger
Footballguy
Norwood hasn't had 15 carries in his career yet and had 10 or more only 3 times (10, 10 and 13).
I wasn't intending to pimp a competitor, I happened to be on yahoo and I clicked on Norwood's note.
corpcow
Footballguy
One game against one of the top run defenses (the #1 last year), no less. Norwood will certainly get more carries, but I do think Dunn will remain the starter and get the lion's share of the carries.
(joke)i think the ypc difference between the two backs has alot to do with the play calling. if you look at the play by plays, all of norwoods runs were to the outside off the end where he had more room to make moves and use his speed. all of dunns carries were between the tackles, and as we know, it is tough to run up the gut against the vikes. but this is interesting.... from what i saw at a quick glance of the play stats , dunns longest run of the day ( 12 yards ) was also run off end to the outside.
dunn had 1 long run of 12 on the off end run to the outside and norwood had 2 long runs on the outside off end run. the other 3 of norwoods carries was just average yardage.
the 2 something ypc for dunn compared to the 6 something ypc for norwood is misleading. whats NOT misleading.. is the fact that dunn got 20+ carries to norwoods 5 and dunn got all the runs called between the tackles.
sure anybody can say... well... norwood had 6 yards per carry and dunn had 2 yards per carry so... norwood is the better back. but if you read between the lines, you will see that that may not be the case.
dunn had 1 long run of 12 on the off end run to the outside and norwood had 2 long runs on the outside off end run. the other 3 of norwoods carries was just average yardage.
the 2 something ypc for dunn compared to the 6 something ypc for norwood is misleading. whats NOT misleading.. is the fact that dunn got 20+ carries to norwoods 5 and dunn got all the runs called between the tackles.
sure anybody can say... well... norwood had 6 yards per carry and dunn had 2 yards per carry so... norwood is the better back. but if you read between the lines, you will see that that may not be the case.
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sholditch
Footballguy
sorry dude, you're not beating a dead horse, you're repeating a fallacious argument that has little to any merit. By your logic, these backs are also unsuited to carry a full load: Laurence Maroney, Brian Westbrook, Travis Henry, Cedric Benson, Ahman Green, Willis McGahee, Sean Alexander, etc. Point is your argument is total crap. All RBs get knicked up, and if they're not starting when they do, they're more likely to sit than play-through the injury. Also, if you knew anything about his college career you'd know how stupid this sounds. Also don't see where you get skinny legs:He had 99 carries last year, missed 2 games and was banged up in a few others...has thin legs, and I just can't see him being physically able to take the pounding. I am done doingspurs44 said:
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gal...ges/norwood.jpg
I agree with your point about all RBs getting dinged, but he does have skinny legs. It just jumps out at me when I watch him. However, that shouldn't stop him from getting more than 5 carries. He carried a full load in college, unlike a similarly built Auburn RB who gets often criticized here.sorry dude, you're not beating a dead horse, you're repeating a fallacious argument that has little to any merit. By your logic, these backs are also unsuited to carry a full load: Laurence Maroney, Brian Westbrook, Travis Henry, Cedric Benson, Ahman Green, Willis McGahee, Sean Alexander, etc. Point is your argument is total crap. All RBs get knicked up, and if they're not starting when they do, they're more likely to sit than play-through the injury. Also, if you knew anything about his college career you'd know how stupid this sounds. Also don't see where you get skinny legs:He had 99 carries last year, missed 2 games and was banged up in a few others...has thin legs, and I just can't see him being physically able to take the pounding. I am done doingspurs44 said:
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/multimedia/photo_gal...ges/norwood.jpg
corpcow
Footballguy
Dude, he has skinny legs. He's built more like a WR than a RB.
The Gator
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
He's bigger than Dunn by a lot (5'11" 204 compared to 5'9" 180). Besides, have you seen how skinny Reggie Bush's legs are?
JohnnyU
Footballguy
I bet you don't even believe that.Must be a Norwood owner.............Probably because Dunn is the better back and gives the team the better chance to win
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
Those are skinny legs.
Maybe not for the average everyday person, but for an NFL running back they sure are. Most running backs have tree trunk legs.Maybe he is a rookie coach who is more confident with a veteran rb to start the year then with a young rb. Maybe the coaching staff will start using Norwood more as he is clearly thier big play guy. My point is even though Dunn is the starter now, it's as obvious as the nose on your face that Norwood is going to get on the field more as evidenced by Petrino's latest comments. I still say that he will have a role similar to Bush this year and that he will get his chance to carry the load sometime this year. Can we at least agree that it takes more than one game before making some ridiculous comments that he is injury prone based on 99 carries!
Steelnation
Footballguy
"There was talk towards the end of the preseason that Warrick Dunn was possibly going on the PUP list. Fast forward to week one when Dunn is named the starter. I can’t say I understand this move but use this bit of information to either add Norwood as a FA or try to deal for him using the guise that he is Atlanta’s #2 RB. Atlanta just does not have enough weapons to keep Jerious off the field. The guy is lightning in cleats. Last year he averaged a healthy 6.4 ypc and continued to do so in limited carries this week (8.1 yards per touch) vs. Dunn’s pedestrian 3.1 yards per touch. I am a HUGE Warrick Dunn fan (on and off the field) but age and carries are starting to catch up with him. Because of Dunn’s preseason injury report, Norwood is probably not available on the wire, but hopefully the fact that he is on a pathetic team like Atlanta kept teams away from him. If this is true, run to the wire and snatch him up. Otherwise, there is little time to trade for him on the cheap."
Restricted
Footballguy
Jags gave up over 200yds and a TD to the Titans. Norwood may have a good time running this week.
kensat30
Footballguy
I think Norwood's legs are less skinny and more long. It's almost like he has his pants hitched up above his belly button, but then you realize that he's just got the legs of a 6'5" man.
The size of Norwood's legs reminds me of Shaun Alexander's. That guy has some chopstick calf muscles.
The size of Norwood's legs reminds me of Shaun Alexander's. That guy has some chopstick calf muscles.
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Not that it helps anyone now, maybe for peace of mind, but he was a diving tackle away from a 60 yard td. Check out the video.
http://www.nfl.com/players/jeriousnorwood/...le?id=NOR780922
Nice move he puts on the free blitzer too. It's pretty obvious the guy needs the ball in his hands. Petrino knows it, it's just a matter of time.
http://www.nfl.com/players/jeriousnorwood/...le?id=NOR780922
Nice move he puts on the free blitzer too. It's pretty obvious the guy needs the ball in his hands. Petrino knows it, it's just a matter of time.
Banger
Footballguy
I think the injury prone label on most guys is ridiculous. It's the NFL and guys get hurt, nearly all of them. My basic point is just because a guy gets a better ypc in limited carries doesn't always mean that they are the better back or deserve to be the starter. It's certainly possible that Norwood will get more as the year goes on, it'll be interesting to watch....
StraightCash
Footballguy
I think all of you who are counting out Norwood's NFL potential due to his supposed "skinny legs" are confusing limb length with muscle mass. Norwood has extremely long limbs, which translates into elongated muscles. That has nothing to do with mass or strength. In fact, those people blessed with long limbs are typically stronger than those with short limbs and equivalent muscle mass. You can walk into any gym in the country and find guys that are 5'8'', with bloated arms, who can barely bench their weight and guys that are built like beanstalks who can rep out 315. I am not sure why long limbs, which are typically a positive for athletes, would be considered a negative for running backs.Besides, the notion that a RB with skinny legs can't be successful in the NFL is just idiotic.Those are skinny legs.
grouse
Footballguy
I believe Bobby Petrino started with Warrick Dunn because their record was 0-0.
All things being equal, as a first-year coach on a team with no shortage of distractions, you go with the experienced veteran. Experience is a great asset, but it is also a luxury that the Atlanta Falcons were afforded for only one week. Now they are 0-1 and failed to score an offensive touchdown in their opening game. Experience does not score touchdowns in the NFL, talent does - raw or otherwise. The luxury to start experience over raw playmaking talent is officially gonzo. The Falcons need their best playmakers on the field, mistake prone, injury prone, whatever they may be or bring. They need it. They are 0-1, not 0-0, and thus it is not at all surprising now to hear Petrino begin to vacillate on Warrick Dunn.
All things being equal, as a first-year coach on a team with no shortage of distractions, you go with the experienced veteran. Experience is a great asset, but it is also a luxury that the Atlanta Falcons were afforded for only one week. Now they are 0-1 and failed to score an offensive touchdown in their opening game. Experience does not score touchdowns in the NFL, talent does - raw or otherwise. The luxury to start experience over raw playmaking talent is officially gonzo. The Falcons need their best playmakers on the field, mistake prone, injury prone, whatever they may be or bring. They need it. They are 0-1, not 0-0, and thus it is not at all surprising now to hear Petrino begin to vacillate on Warrick Dunn.
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
Didn't Norwood lose some weight w/ a stomach illness towards the end of preseason? I have to agree w/ switz's post.
Appreciate your imput. It will be fun to watch!
