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Why no love for Benson? (1 Viewer)

Chaser1439

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Benson is being listed at 15-20 rbs in most of the ADP lists. If you are in a 12 team league, Benson is a great back to grab in the middle to late 2nd round. Does anyone see him going over 1000 yards and 10 tds?

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I like his chances too. I wouldn't want to be married to him, but I'd want him on the roster either as part of an RB2 tandem or as RB3. If he's available in round 4 or later he's a steal. Round three would be the earliest I'd want to draft him at this point, but preseason could change that. I'd have a tough time drafting him in round two right now - maybe pick 22, 23, 24.

 
I like his chances too. I wouldn't want to be married to him, but I'd want him on the roster either as part of an RB2 tandem or as RB3. If he's available in round 4 or later he's a steal. Round three would be the earliest I'd want to draft him at this point, but preseason could change that. I'd have a tough time drafting him in round two right now - maybe pick 22, 23, 24.
round 4??? are you kidding??? later than round 4???
 
I like his chances too. I wouldn't want to be married to him, but I'd want him on the roster either as part of an RB2 tandem or as RB3. If he's available in round 4 or later he's a steal. Round three would be the earliest I'd want to draft him at this point, but preseason could change that. I'd have a tough time drafting him in round two right now - maybe pick 22, 23, 24.
round 4??? are you kidding??? later than round 4???
:lol:I'm just saying. I'm not expecting round 4 or later, but if it happens it's a steal. I'd be comfortable taking him in round three, much earlier than that and I'd feel a bit uneasy. As mentioned above he does seem to have a pension for getting nicked up.
 
My impressions of CB are that he's a fat *******. He's not really beloved by his teammates and hasn't exactly earned his place in the starting lineup. Thomas Jones got a raw deal IMO and the chemistry in general on this team just reeks.

My draft position probably will dictate that I won't even sniff him and I'm quite happy about that. Let someone else deal with this budding prima donna.

 
I thought as we got closer to draft day that he would start rising up the ranks but he really hasn't. He's a guy that I probably won't get due to my drafting philosophy but I wouldn't be surprised at all if he outperforms his ADP and ends up in the 11-15 range (with possibly more upside if the stars truly align).

 
My impressions of CB are that he's a fat *******. He's not really beloved by his teammates and hasn't exactly earned his place in the starting lineup. Thomas Jones got a raw deal IMO and the chemistry in general on this team just reeks. My draft position probably will dictate that I won't even sniff him and I'm quite happy about that. Let someone else deal with this budding prima donna.
What do you base this on? Meaning, what has Cedric Benson ever said or done that leads you to these conclusions about his work ethic and character?
 
What you're missing is that he doesn't play hurt. And that's not good when you're always getting hurt...
:thumbup: Benson was one of the most durable players of all time in college, finishing 5th all-time in yards rushing. He never missed substantial time due to injury.His rookie year ended when he suffered a freakish MCL injury. I don't know of anyone who could have played with that injury.His 2nd year began with a shoulder injury but he returned from it and was productive when he played thereafter.
 
I thought as we got closer to draft day that he would start rising up the ranks but he really hasn't. He's a guy that I probably won't get due to my drafting philosophy but I wouldn't be surprised at all if he outperforms his ADP and ends up in the 11-15 range (with possibly more upside if the stars truly align).
Yeah, he's probably getting taken about where he should be going right now. I also like the chances of him out-performing his ADP significantly. I will see when my drafts come up, if my leaguemates also possess the irrational disrespect for every Bear aside from Urlacher that I have seen in various places, then I will be targetting him.
 
What you're missing is that he doesn't play hurt. And that's not good when you're always getting hurt...
:lmao: Benson was one of the most durable players of all time in college, finishing 5th all-time in yards rushing. He never missed substantial time due to injury.His rookie year ended when he suffered a freakish MCL injury. I don't know of anyone who could have played with that injury.His 2nd year began with a shoulder injury but he returned from it and was productive when he played thereafter.
Then got hurt again in the superbowl when he got absolutely blasted. If he doesn't reduce the hits, he's going to have a hard time staying healthy. That's my biggest issue with him.
 
I thought as we got closer to draft day that he would start rising up the ranks but he really hasn't. He's a guy that I probably won't get due to my drafting philosophy but I wouldn't be surprised at all if he outperforms his ADP and ends up in the 11-15 range (with possibly more upside if the stars truly align).
Yeah, he's probably getting taken about where he should be going right now. I also like the chances of him out-performing his ADP significantly. I will see when my drafts come up, if my leaguemates also possess the irrational disrespect for every Bear aside from Urlacher that I have seen in various places, then I will be targetting him.
The Bears as a team are great. They are the best in the NFC.The Bears players as individuals for fantasy football aren't so great, historically.

This is a defense first team and the offense is shaky. Grossman? Berrian & and old Moose? They showed some flashes early last year, but about the time everyone decided to jump on it, they faltered. Their running game has been good, but not great from year to year and there just isn't a lot of upside with Benson. If he's healthy all year, his ceiling is 1,600 total yards and 12 TD's. I expect more around 1,400 total yards and 10 TD's. That puts him at #16 on my projections list in non-PPR & #19 in PPR. He's a decent #2, but his risk is higher than others in that range like Edge, Portis, Ronnie Brown & MJD. Some people even like T-Jones or Jacobs better (but I'm not one of them).

 
What you're missing is that he doesn't play hurt. And that's not good when you're always getting hurt...
:thumbup: Benson was one of the most durable players of all time in college, finishing 5th all-time in yards rushing. He never missed substantial time due to injury.His rookie year ended when he suffered a freakish MCL injury. I don't know of anyone who could have played with that injury.His 2nd year began with a shoulder injury but he returned from it and was productive when he played thereafter.
So what this says to me is that he can't hold up to an NFL pounding. Does he have any years of NCAA eligibility left?
 
My impressions of CB are that he's a fat *******. He's not really beloved by his teammates and hasn't exactly earned his place in the starting lineup. Thomas Jones got a raw deal IMO and the chemistry in general on this team just reeks. My draft position probably will dictate that I won't even sniff him and I'm quite happy about that. Let someone else deal with this budding prima donna.
What do you base this on? Meaning, what has Cedric Benson ever said or done that leads you to these conclusions about his work ethic and character?
Right off the bat, he held out for QB type of money and sat out about 50 days of training camp which not only sets him back but the team back. So the grumblings started there and then began to manifest when he was being interviewed by local media and he began complaining about his playing time. He was acting as if he had a sense of entitlement and even went as far to say that the organization wasn't being "professional" in their handling of the situation. Players began endorsing Thomas Jones as the "their starter" and it just started to fracture his image IMO. Maybe it's all baloney but to me it was waving some red flags about him.He should have just been a team player and earned his spot instead of acting as if it were his from the get go. Now there's players clamoring for McNabb as their QB, the Tank Johnson debacle etc.... I"m just avoiding the situation.
 
All this talk starts and ends with the durability factor. If he can stay healthy he will b a top 5 RB this year in the NFL and in FF. If he falls the Bears will have a real mess on their hands and your FF team better have B/U at RB...

 
My impressions of CB are that he's a fat *******.
So 6-0, 225 is fat?Hmm, might want to re-think that before you spew garbage.
LOL....I'm sorry does that figure you just showed dictate body composition? Not so much..... I'm not literally referring to his weight. To me, he's just not very fleet of foot and his 4.1 ypc is less than stellar for a young back. :lmao:
 
All this talk starts and ends with the durability factor. If he can stay healthy he will b a top 5 RB this year in the NFL and in FF. If he falls the Bears will have a real mess on their hands and your FF team better have B/U at RB...
I agree with this. The pieces are in place for a stud season....he will be a true number 1 if he can stay healthy. 20 -25 carries per game, good yardage....crap shoot with TD's.
 
Bottom line is this:

He's the clearcut #1 RB on a team with a great defense and an offense that will have ample opportunity to score.

People can choose to dislike this guy all they want, but he's surely in a situation to succeed, and he has the talent to do so. I'm hoping the owners in my fantasy league are down on him so I can get this guy with good value - which is anywhere after pick 18-20 IMO. And for those who say he's injury prone, have you had fantasy success in the past predicting injuries?

 
Bottom line is this:He's the clearcut #1 RB on a team with a great defense and an offense that will have ample opportunity to score.People can choose to dislike this guy all they want, but he's surely in a situation to succeed, and he has the talent to do so. I'm hoping the owners in my fantasy league are down on him so I can get this guy with good value - which is anywhere after pick 18-20 IMO. And for those who say he's injury prone, have you had fantasy success in the past predicting injuries?
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Bottom line is this:

He's the clearcut #1 RB on a team with a great defense and an offense that will have ample opportunity to score.

and he has the talent to do so.
Based on what? His stellar career 4.1 ypc? Or maybe it's the fact that he couldn't beat out a mediocre back in Thomas Jones for the starting RB spot. You tell me which.People (especially on FBG for some reason) always think "oh put so and so in the right system" and he'll be a top-10 running back. It's not that easy. At some point talent has to come into play. Something which Cedric Benson is lacking much of at the pro level.

 
With Benson, it all depends on how strong your stomach is. The guy is in an absolute dream position. #1 RB on a run first, playoff team with a strong D. It is just a question of where his head is. If he can play through some of these "Dings"(maybe an understatement) and stay on the field I think that he can get 1400+ yards and 12-15 td's.

 
Bottom line is this:

He's the clearcut #1 RB on a team with a great defense and an offense that will have ample opportunity to score.

and he has the talent to do so.
Based on what? His stellar career 4.1 ypc? Or maybe it's the fact that he couldn't beat out a mediocre back in Thomas Jones for the starting RB spot. You tell me which.People (especially on FBG for some reason) always think "oh put so and so in the right system" and he'll be a top-10 running back. It's not that easy. At some point talent has to come into play. Something which Cedric Benson is lacking much of at the pro level.
I don't see how you can come to this conclusion already. I like what I've seen from him in college and at the pro level. I think he'll do well given the chance.
 
Bottom line is this:

He's the clearcut #1 RB on a team with a great defense and an offense that will have ample opportunity to score.

and he has the talent to do so.
Based on what? His stellar career 4.1 ypc? Or maybe it's the fact that he couldn't beat out a mediocre back in Thomas Jones for the starting RB spot. You tell me which.People (especially on FBG for some reason) always think "oh put so and so in the right system" and he'll be a top-10 running back. It's not that easy. At some point talent has to come into play. Something which Cedric Benson is lacking much of at the pro level.
I don't see how you can come to this conclusion already. I like what I've seen from him in college and at the pro level. I think he'll do well given the chance.
he thinks Cedric Benson has no talent . . . good grief . . .
 
Bottom line is this:He's the clearcut #1 RB on a team with a great defense and an offense that will have ample opportunity to score.People can choose to dislike this guy all they want, but he's surely in a situation to succeed, and he has the talent to do so. I'm hoping the owners in my fantasy league are down on him so I can get this guy with good value - which is anywhere after pick 18-20 IMO. And for those who say he's injury prone, have you had fantasy success in the past predicting injuries?
amen . . .by Labor Day,I see him going in most drafts at the end of the second round . . .
 
One big pre-season game and he will jump up the chart.

The only thing I really like about Benson is the fact that TJ is gone.

 
Bottom line is this:

He's the clearcut #1 RB on a team with a great defense and an offense that will have ample opportunity to score.

and he has the talent to do so.
Based on what? His stellar career 4.1 ypc? Or maybe it's the fact that he couldn't beat out a mediocre back in Thomas Jones for the starting RB spot. You tell me which.People (especially on FBG for some reason) always think "oh put so and so in the right system" and he'll be a top-10 running back. It's not that easy. At some point talent has to come into play. Something which Cedric Benson is lacking much of at the pro level.
I don't see how you can come to this conclusion already. I like what I've seen from him in college and at the pro level. I think he'll do well given the chance.
I haven't seen anything special or even close from him so far in the NFL. 4.1 yard per carry average is far from it. I don't even think he's had one good game yet. Garbage time vs the Packers last year doesn't count. But hey he looked good in college. Just like everybody else who was ever drafted in the NFL.
 
I thought as we got closer to draft day that he would start rising up the ranks but he really hasn't. He's a guy that I probably won't get due to my drafting philosophy but I wouldn't be surprised at all if he outperforms his ADP and ends up in the 11-15 range (with possibly more upside if the stars truly align).
:lmao: Sums up how I feel about him 100%. I also agree that he could easily outperform where he's being drafted but I just won't touch him.
 
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Top 5 for the next 3 years.

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for the record, i like him too, but im a UT alum.

Can any Bears homers comment on the expected roles of A Peterson and, to me more importantly, Garrett Wolfe?

 
[Herd]Top 5 for the next 3 years.[/Herd]for the record, i like him too, but im a UT alum.Can any Bears homers comment on the expected roles of A Peterson and, to me more importantly, Garrett Wolfe?
I'll be able to fill in better once TC starts down here.
 
My impressions of CB are that he's a fat *******.
WTF???Have you ever seen the guy?
Reading all of thread and not just excerpts helps explain it. He's just not as swift as I want my #1 back to be.
translation: you haven't seen him . . .
No I haven't seen him naked if you are still insinuating that we are talking about his physique. :thumbup: As I mentioned in a previous post, he just plays fat because he doesn't seem to have the explosion through the line of scrimmage that even Thomas Jones seemed to have on him. If you want 3 yards and a cloud of dust then by all means..... I've seen plenty of Chicago games in the last two years being a Lion's fan and the fact that I watch the Sunday ticket for other players to make a judgement on his abilities to date. :lmao:
 
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Another thought is that the Bears might have home field wrapped up by week 16. (I don't remember how soon it was last year) What if one of your top 2 RB's isn't even playing your championship week? As the clear cut favorite in the NFC, it is certainly a possiblilty.

 
My impressions of CB are that he's a fat *******. He's not really beloved by his teammates and hasn't exactly earned his place in the starting lineup. Thomas Jones got a raw deal IMO and the chemistry in general on this team just reeks. My draft position probably will dictate that I won't even sniff him and I'm quite happy about that. Let someone else deal with this budding prima donna.
What do you base this on? Meaning, what has Cedric Benson ever said or done that leads you to these conclusions about his work ethic and character?
Right off the bat, he held out for QB type of money and sat out about 50 days of training camp which not only sets him back but the team back. So the grumblings started there and then began to manifest when he was being interviewed by local media and he began complaining about his playing time. He was acting as if he had a sense of entitlement and even went as far to say that the organization wasn't being "professional" in their handling of the situation. Players began endorsing Thomas Jones as the "their starter" and it just started to fracture his image IMO. Maybe it's all baloney but to me it was waving some red flags about him.He should have just been a team player and earned his spot instead of acting as if it were his from the get go. Now there's players clamoring for McNabb as their QB, the Tank Johnson debacle etc.... I"m just avoiding the situation.
He was the fourth overall pick and held out through training camp to get 4th pick money. I didn't like it at the time but I'm not delusional enough to think that his agent wasn't a big player in it, or that this sort of thing isn't common. If you remember how the hold-out ended, it was because CD went to Halas Hall without telling his agent. Two days later a deal was in place. Also, he never said the organization wasn't being professional. I think you made that up to bolster a weak argument. Also, if you look at what CD actually said, he never complained about his playing time, just said that he wanted to be the starter and wanted to play. If he had said the opposite he would have been criticized for not having enough drive. Classic damned if you do scenario. Also, if you actually remember what happened when he got his shoulder separated he didn't call out his teammates and said it was a clean hit and an accident, even when the merciless Chicago press was trying to goad him into whining or ragging on his teammates.I could go on, but let me just finish by saying you are completely 100% wrong about the way that CD has conducted himself. Everything you brought up was either exaggerated or an outright falsehood.
 
My impressions of CB are that he's a fat *******. He's not really beloved by his teammates and hasn't exactly earned his place in the starting lineup. Thomas Jones got a raw deal IMO and the chemistry in general on this team just reeks.

My draft position probably will dictate that I won't even sniff him and I'm quite happy about that. Let someone else deal with this budding prima donna.
What do you base this on? Meaning, what has Cedric Benson ever said or done that leads you to these conclusions about his work ethic and character?
Right off the bat, he held out for QB type of money and sat out about 50 days of training camp which not only sets him back but the team back. So the grumblings started there and then began to manifest when he was being interviewed by local media and he began complaining about his playing time. He was acting as if he had a sense of entitlement and even went as far to say that the organization wasn't being "professional" in their handling of the situation. Players began endorsing Thomas Jones as the "their starter" and it just started to fracture his image IMO. Maybe it's all baloney but to me it was waving some red flags about him.He should have just been a team player and earned his spot instead of acting as if it were his from the get go. Now there's players clamoring for McNabb as their QB, the Tank Johnson debacle etc.... I"m just avoiding the situation.
He was the fourth overall pick and held out through training camp to get 4th pick money. I didn't like it at the time but I'm not delusional enough to think that his agent wasn't a big player in it, or that this sort of thing isn't common. If you remember how the hold-out ended, it was because CD went to Halas Hall without telling his agent. Two days later a deal was in place. Also, he never said the organization wasn't being professional. I think you made that up to bolster a weak argument. Also, if you look at what CD actually said, he never complained about his playing time, just said that he wanted to be the starter and wanted to play. If he had said the opposite he would have been criticized for not having enough drive. Classic damned if you do scenario. Also, if you actually remember what happened when he got his shoulder separated he didn't call out his teammates and said it was a clean hit and an accident, even when the merciless Chicago press was trying to goad him into whining or ragging on his teammates.I could go on, but let me just finish by saying you are completely 100% wrong about the way that CD has conducted himself. Everything you brought up was either exaggerated or an outright falsehood.
I'll be the first to admit that CB is not too eloquent when speaking to the media, but for the most part, I agree with you on the bolded portion above. A lot of people seem to have this misconception of Benson.
 
Just found this

Benson primed to excel as Bears feature backBy Larry Mayer In the second of nine position previews in advance of training camp, Tim Spencer discusses Bears running backs:How ready is Cedric Benson to assume the feature back role? He’s ready, both mentally and physically. He worked his tail off this offseason to try to be that back that everybody wants him to be and the type of player that he wants to be. Things didn’t happen exactly the way he wanted them to early in terms of playing. But I think that even though it was difficult for him at times, he’s learned a little bit about what it takes in terms of the effort and preparation that’s involved in order to be at that top spot. I look forward to him having a great year. There’s not that pressure of who’s going to be “the guy,” so he doesn’t have to worry about that. He’s comfortable. He knows he’s going to be the guy and he’s taken off. Running back Cedric Benson was selected by the Bears with the fourth overall pick in the 2005 draft. How would you describe Cedric has a running back?Cedric is a throwback sort of guy in that he gets better the more times he gets the ball in his hands no matter whether we throw it to him or he’s running out of the backfield. He likes a lot of touches. He gets warmed up. He’s fit and he’s ready to go. What impressed you most about Cedric during offseason workouts?It started out when we started our drill work. You could see right away with his great effort in terms of how he was working to get his feet right and to get his body and his hips and everything else in the proper position. I knew right away that he was ready to go. He was on a mission and he fit right in with the rest of the guys on our team. Our guys are pros. They practice hard. We have fun, but when we’re on the field we work and he slid right in. Cedric has had some injury problems. How concerned are you about his durability?I’m not really concerned because you really can’t control that. He’s prepared well. He’s done everything that [strength and conditioning coordinator] Rusty Jones has asked him to do. He’s going to go out there and let it go. You can’t go out there and think about those things. Injuries are going to happen. If something happens, then we’ll just have somebody else step in there. But I think he’ll be all right. I’m not thinking about that. I know it’s a long haul. I know he’s a guy who likes to get the ball in his hands a lot, but we’ll have to temper some of that. We would like to have him for the whole season. How much of a luxury is it to have someone as talented as Adrian Peterson as a backup?I trust Adrian. I rust him because he works hard. He’s always worked hard. Every time he’s been in there, he’s done a great job for us. Whether we ask him to block, catch passes—whatever we ask him to do—he’s a solid player. You know what you’re going to get. I feel very comfortable about putting him in there. I don’t feel like there’s any drop-off whatsoever. He’s a pro.How did rookie Garrett Wolfe perform in offseason workouts?The young guy is a young guy no doubt. He struggled a little bit with a lot of the terminology and some of the things that are going on a lot like maybe Cedric did earlier on because in various formations you’re different people. So you could be the “F” one time, you could be the “H” another. You’ve just got to realize what the personnel is and then kind of go from there. He struggled with that a little bit, but when he’s locked in, when he knows what he has to do, he’s pretty darn quick.What are your impressions of Garrett’s ability and what type of role will he fill this year?He’s elusive, he’s fast and he’s quick. Guys make jokes all the time about his size, but it doesn’t bother me because he’s so strong. He’s got almost 200 pounds on a 5-7 frame, so he’s pretty solid and you can’t hit what you can’t see. He has a good work ethic. He gets down the field. He just needs reps. That’s what’s going to get him better, so hopefully this training camp we’ll get him a lot of reps. We’ll get him a lot of reps in the preseason so that our comfort level with what he knows will be a lot better. I feel that he’ll give us a nice little change-up in there. We’ll put him in there on first down, second down and third down. We won’t have any problem putting him in there because he’s tough.How would you evaluate your top three running backs as a group?They give us a little bit of everything. We’ve got power when we need it. We’ve got elusiveness. We’ve got speed. Cedric is a lot faster than people think. He’s pretty quick for a big back. He’s got very fast football speed. I feel very good about Adrian’s elusiveness and trust that he’s going to get things done, and I think that Garrett will be fine for what we’re going to ask him to do. We’ll have some special things for him. He can be an every-down back in this league. I don’t know if you’d want to give him the ball 30 times a game, but we will certainly get our money’s worth out of him.
 
My impressions of CB are that he's a fat *******. He's not really beloved by his teammates and hasn't exactly earned his place in the starting lineup. Thomas Jones got a raw deal IMO and the chemistry in general on this team just reeks. My draft position probably will dictate that I won't even sniff him and I'm quite happy about that. Let someone else deal with this budding prima donna.
What do you base this on? Meaning, what has Cedric Benson ever said or done that leads you to these conclusions about his work ethic and character?
Right off the bat, he held out for QB type of money and sat out about 50 days of training camp which not only sets him back but the team back. So the grumblings started there and then began to manifest when he was being interviewed by local media and he began complaining about his playing time. He was acting as if he had a sense of entitlement and even went as far to say that the organization wasn't being "professional" in their handling of the situation. Players began endorsing Thomas Jones as the "their starter" and it just started to fracture his image IMO. Maybe it's all baloney but to me it was waving some red flags about him.He should have just been a team player and earned his spot instead of acting as if it were his from the get go. Now there's players clamoring for McNabb as their QB, the Tank Johnson debacle etc.... I"m just avoiding the situation.
He was the fourth overall pick and held out through training camp to get 4th pick money. I didn't like it at the time but I'm not delusional enough to think that his agent wasn't a big player in it, or that this sort of thing isn't common. If you remember how the hold-out ended, it was because CD went to Halas Hall without telling his agent. Two days later a deal was in place. Also, he never said the organization wasn't being professional. I think you made that up to bolster a weak argument. Also, if you look at what CD actually said, he never complained about his playing time, just said that he wanted to be the starter and wanted to play. If he had said the opposite he would have been criticized for not having enough drive. Classic damned if you do scenario. Also, if you actually remember what happened when he got his shoulder separated he didn't call out his teammates and said it was a clean hit and an accident, even when the merciless Chicago press was trying to goad him into whining or ragging on his teammates.I could go on, but let me just finish by saying you are completely 100% wrong about the way that CD has conducted himself. Everything you brought up was either exaggerated or an outright falsehood.
Who is CD? Is that some nickname like Peterson has in AD? If AD = All Day, does CD = Closed Down?
 
IMHO, Benson and LJ are perfect examples of over analyzing. The keys to fantasy success are TOUCHES!!! These guys are guaranteed to get 300+ touches this year. I do not try to predict injuries so these guys should be huge. As a disclaimer, I do look at players who are injured all the time. Ex., Fred Taylor, McNabb, Todd Heap, etc. I see no reason to downgrade a player who will get the majority of touches from their team.

 

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