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Why was Rothlessberger rated so friggin' low this past week? (1 Viewer)

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I took the advice of the cheatsheets this past week and benched Ben 'Cheeseburger.' He had 4TD and would have scored me a whopping 29 points. Instead, I started D. Garrad who plays tonight against Indy. All I can hope is that Garrad gets a couple TDs. I ended up benching Cheeseburger around 12:45PM yesterday...cutoff time is 12:50PM for our league. Big mistake on my part.

 
Same thing with Bulger. Several reasons.

Snow in the forecast

High winds in the forecast

Power running O vs weak run D seemed to call for a big ground game

Great D vs struggling O indicated they'd play with the lead and run a lot.

Turns out, they got behind early and had to throw. Left 22 points on my bench and hoping I survive Addai, Wayne and Northucutt.

 
I think because PIT had the #1 rushing offense and DEN had the worst(?) rushing defense, so the assumption would be that PIT would run all day instead of passing like they did.

 
Champ Bailey being a game-time decision and not playing is probably the biggest reason Ben performed so well.

 
Snow (and I live in Denver), solid run game vs. the inept donkeys, DEN struggling, possible blow out w/ no reason to pass, etc...

Benched him for friggin Campbell :bag: leaving about 30 on the bench. This brilliant move on my part will likely cost me a game.

NEVER BENCH YOUR STUDS!

say it with me now...

NEVER BENCH YOUR STUDS!

 
Champ Bailey being a game-time decision and not playing is probably the biggest reason Ben performed so well.
Bailey is only one player. Roethlisberger had 290 yards passing and 4 touchdowns for crying out loud.FBG and their "stat projections" blew it on this one. Big time.
 
play your best players. it isn't complicated.
So you are saying that the fbg cheatsheet is completely worthless?
Cheatsheets are meant to be a reference tool. Obviously, noone has a crystal ball.Rule 1: Start your studs.Rule 2: Start your studs.Rule 3: TRUST YOUR GUT. Don't let FBG or anyone else tell you who to start after your studs. It's your team. Run it.Rule 4: Enjoy the defeats and the victories. It's a game.
 
I took the advice of the cheatsheets this past week and benched Ben 'Cheeseburger.' He had 4TD and would have scored me a whopping 29 points. Instead, I started D. Garrad who plays tonight against Indy. All I can hope is that Garrad gets a couple TDs. I ended up benching Cheeseburger around 12:45PM yesterday...cutoff time is 12:50PM for our league. Big mistake on my part.
Maybe you should lobby to have the rules changed so the deadline is 12:50 AM on Tuesday morning so you will be guaranteed to start the right players every week :cry:
 
play your best players. it isn't complicated.
So you are saying that the fbg cheatsheet is completely worthless?
i don't use it, so i am not making a statement about it one way or the other.i am sure many people find it valuable. to me, especially once we are into week 7 of the season, i look at the players on my roster, what their PPG has been, and if it is a player i consider a "stud" or at least really good, i start him regardless. i only get into matchups for WR3s or other backups for my main players on their bye weeks.
 
Champ Bailey being a game-time decision and not playing is probably the biggest reason Ben performed so well.
Bailey is only one player. Roethlisberger had 290 yards passing and 4 touchdowns for crying out loud.FBG and their "stat projections" blew it on this one. Big time.
They didn't blow it. They took all the available info and formulated the most likely scenario. I rated it the same way, expecting Parker and Davenpoop to have big games and Ben to have a modest one. Just because that didn't happen doesn't mean they blew it. You can't predict right all the time. If anyone expected Ben to have a 4 TD game when playing the worst rush defense and best pass defense, then I'll call you a dirty liar right to your face. I get so sick of threads bashing the predictions and saying FBG blew it because someone had a good day when statistical analysis suggested they wouldn't. If you're so smart, follow your own predicitons and stay away from here. If you blindly accepted their ranking then you blew it big time. Use your noodle instead of being a sheep and blaming the weatherman when it rains.And for the record I sat Ben for Garrard in 2 leagues and started Davenpoop in 2 expecting the same results that FBG had in mind, based on the same predictions I made. Playing the numbers doesn't work every week and I'll probably lose 2 games from it. But blaming FBG is as ignorant as the day is long. That ranking had every basis in solid analysis and I would make the same decision based on the evidence every single time.Take your whining to the venting thread or shut it.
 
Same thing with Bulger. Several reasons.Snow in the forecastHigh winds in the forecastPower running O vs weak run D seemed to call for a big ground gameGreat D vs struggling O indicated they'd play with the lead and run a lot.Turns out, they got behind early and had to throw. Left 22 points on my bench and hoping I survive Addai, Wayne and Northucutt.
Exactly. I do not see why this is so complicated. Looking at the matchup before the game started this did not look good for Ben. I started him in one league because I had NO other option, but would have gladly started a Griese or Garrard had that option been available to me.FF works out this way sometimes. You have to do your best with what you have.
 
Snow (and I live in Denver), solid run game vs. the inept donkeys, DEN struggling, possible blow out w/ no reason to pass, etc...Benched him for friggin Campbell :shrug: leaving about 30 on the bench. This brilliant move on my part will likely cost me a game.NEVER BENCH YOUR STUDS!say it with me now...NEVER BENCH YOUR STUDS!
big ben is a stud fantasy qb? :goodposting:
 
Who are you? The resident FBG apologist?

There were rumors all week that Champ Bailey was hurt. There were also rumors of the Broncos re-tooling their defensive scheme to emphasize stopping the run. It was VERY foreseeable that Ben Roethlisberger was going to have a huge game.

 
I took the advice of the cheatsheets this past week and benched Ben 'Cheeseburger.' He had 4TD and would have scored me a whopping 29 points. Instead, I started D. Garrad who plays tonight against Indy. All I can hope is that Garrad gets a couple TDs. I ended up benching Cheeseburger around 12:45PM yesterday...cutoff time is 12:50PM for our league. Big mistake on my part.
First, anything can happen the rankings are no gaurantee. Look at the rankings as if it's more probable to happen that way.It was not probable for Ben Rothlesburger to go off against one of the toughest pass defenses in the NFL, especially with a weather alert.I would have started Garrard over Ben this week as well. You really should make your own decisions and use their selections as a reference rather than the Bible. I have Seattle D and Kansas City D, and even though Kansas City D was ranked higher on their defensive chart, no way was I sitting them while playing St. Louis. Sometimes you'll agree with their selections, sometimes you won't but in the end, take ownership of your team so that you don't make last minute switches like you did because someone else told you to.
 
Who are you? The resident FBG apologist?There were rumors all week that Champ Bailey was hurt. There were also rumors of the Broncos re-tooling their defensive scheme to emphasize stopping the run. It was VERY foreseeable that Ben Roethlisberger was going to have a huge game.
It was also VERY VERY forseeable that Pittsburgh would run all day and Ben would score very little. Man do I love hindsight ( I ended up starting Ben over Campbell in two leagues and Garrard in one).
 
Sometimes it works for you. Soemtimes it doesn't. Welcome to FF. If I am completely on the fence I will use the cheetsheets as a decider.

yesterday I had to choose between KJones and KWatson. I was completely torn. Cheetsheets had Watson about 4 slots higher, so I went with it. 20 point difference in my favor.

 
Who are you? The resident FBG apologist?There were rumors all week that Champ Bailey was hurt. There were also rumors of the Broncos re-tooling their defensive scheme to emphasize stopping the run. It was VERY foreseeable that Ben Roethlisberger was going to have a huge game.
And it was even more foreseeable that he would have a bad game while FWP and Davenpoop ran all over a weak Broncos rush D. And since he did a little of both, I'd say knocking a conservative prediction of his performance is pretty pathetic. If you knew that Champ was hurt all week and that the Broncos were emphasizing the run D, why didn't you play Roth? You obviously had a different opinion of the rankings and should have gone with it instead of blindly following someone else's prediction and crying about it after. If you don't have the guts to stick with your own predictions then crying about it only makes you twice the fool.
 
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Who are you? The resident FBG apologist?There were rumors all week that Champ Bailey was hurt. There were also rumors of the Broncos re-tooling their defensive scheme to emphasize stopping the run. It was VERY foreseeable that Ben Roethlisberger was going to have a huge game.
Did you put your neck out and predict a big day for Ben? I came to the same conclusion as FBG and started Bulger, and now I'm sweating MNF instead of celebrating victory. My mistake. And I don't use FBG or any pay service for this kind of stuff, MFL and ESPN league sites, and these boards usually have plenty of info to go by.
 
The reality of the situation is that Denver's pass D isn't quite as good as it seems. They had 2 VERY good games to start the season but have had teams pass on them since. They scared me too but I went with Ben in the end because I thought he would have an OK day. My opinion on Denver is that they will tear apart a bad QB but good QBs with more than 2 options will do alright against them. Pitt has Ward, Holmes and Parker all as passing threats.

My bigger surprise from last night was Culter.

Oh yeah, and they were just predictions. The FBG don't get the box scores 3 days early.

EDIT: How do you know the Garrad doesn't out perform Ben? He plays tonight, right?

 
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Champ Bailey being a game-time decision and not playing is probably the biggest reason Ben performed so well.
Bailey is only one player. Roethlisberger had 290 yards passing and 4 touchdowns for crying out loud.FBG and their "stat projections" blew it on this one. Big time.
They didn't blow it. They took all the available info and formulated the most likely scenario. I rated it the same way, expecting Parker and Davenpoop to have big games and Ben to have a modest one. Just because that didn't happen doesn't mean they blew it. You can't predict right all the time. If anyone expected Ben to have a 4 TD game when playing the worst rush defense and best pass defense, then I'll call you a dirty liar right to your face. I get so sick of threads bashing the predictions and saying FBG blew it because someone had a good day when statistical analysis suggested they wouldn't. If you're so smart, follow your own predicitons and stay away from here. If you blindly accepted their ranking then you blew it big time. Use your noodle instead of being a sheep and blaming the weatherman when it rains.And for the record I sat Ben for Garrard in 2 leagues and started Davenpoop in 2 expecting the same results that FBG had in mind, based on the same predictions I made. Playing the numbers doesn't work every week and I'll probably lose 2 games from it. But blaming FBG is as ignorant as the day is long. That ranking had every basis in solid analysis and I would make the same decision based on the evidence every single time.Take your whining to the venting thread or shut it.
ditto that.there were 2 unforseen factors that made predicting a med.-poor game for ben the correct call at the time.1-i wouldn't have thought there was any chance in hell of champ missing the game. not in a 2005 AFC champ. rematch on primetime.2-how many times this season has pittsburgh need to score 32 points to win a game?i didn't think they'd need to this week, either. they ran the ball effectively, but QBs have big games when they are down 2 TDs for much of the game.denver's offense and run defense has been terrible much of this season.the predictions were fine, it just didn't happen the way many knowledgeable people thought it would.i benched ben in 2 leagues and would do it again based on the same info.
 
I think because PIT had the #1 rushing offense and DEN had the worst(?) rushing defense, so the assumption would be that PIT would run all day instead of passing like they did.
Yep.It didn't turn out that way. Adjust all Pittsburgh starters accordingly.
 
I took the advice of the cheatsheets this past week and benched Ben 'Cheeseburger.' He had 4TD and would have scored me a whopping 29 points. Instead, I started D. Garrad who plays tonight against Indy. All I can hope is that Garrad gets a couple TDs. I ended up benching Cheeseburger around 12:45PM yesterday...cutoff time is 12:50PM for our league. Big mistake on my part.
Had the same choice and went with Roethlisberger at the last minute.
 
I took the advice of the cheatsheets this past week and benched Ben 'Cheeseburger.' He had 4TD and would have scored me a whopping 29 points. Instead, I started D. Garrad who plays tonight against Indy. All I can hope is that Garrad gets a couple TDs. I ended up benching Cheeseburger around 12:45PM yesterday...cutoff time is 12:50PM for our league. Big mistake on my part.
Here is a novel concept.......Decide for yourself.....hell, if all you do is follow someone else's cheatsheets / advice, its not really your team anymore. If you win the league , you owe all your winnings to FBG.I hate what this game has become.... :goodposting:
 
I absolutely love these threads :lmao:
:unsure: When someone makes the right call, it was their decision.When someone makes the wrong call, it is all FBG's fault.Classic.
I take full responsibility for the fact that I have followed every cheatsheet all year and they told me that I would win and be 7-0 and I am now 2-5.NOTE: I may have followed the sheet, but I did due diligence every time and each time it seemed like the right call to me.I suck. I can't even :sadbanana: cause I've run out of excuses.
 
I took the advice of the cheatsheets this past week and benched Ben 'Cheeseburger.' He had 4TD and would have scored me a whopping 29 points. Instead, I started D. Garrad who plays tonight against Indy. All I can hope is that Garrad gets a couple TDs. I ended up benching Cheeseburger around 12:45PM yesterday...cutoff time is 12:50PM for our league. Big mistake on my part.
Had the same choice and went with Roethlisberger at the last minute.
Because you used the 12:51PM version of the cheatsheets?
 
I took the advice of the cheatsheets this past week and benched Ben 'Cheeseburger.' He had 4TD and would have scored me a whopping 29 points. Instead, I started D. Garrad who plays tonight against Indy. All I can hope is that Garrad gets a couple TDs. I ended up benching Cheeseburger around 12:45PM yesterday...cutoff time is 12:50PM for our league. Big mistake on my part.
Had the same choice and went with Roethlisberger at the last minute.
Because you used the 12:51PM version of the cheatsheets?
Nope, because I went with my gut and started Ben 'Cheeseburger.'
 
Who are you? The resident FBG apologist?There were rumors all week that Champ Bailey was hurt. There were also rumors of the Broncos re-tooling their defensive scheme to emphasize stopping the run. It was VERY foreseeable that Ben Roethlisberger was going to have a huge game.
I missed the thread where you posted this BEFORE last nights game - please provide a link. TIA.
 
Snow (and I live in Denver), solid run game vs. the inept donkeys, DEN struggling, possible blow out w/ no reason to pass, etc...Benched him for friggin Campbell :bag: leaving about 30 on the bench. This brilliant move on my part will likely cost me a game.NEVER BENCH YOUR STUDS!say it with me now...NEVER BENCH YOUR STUDS!
big ben is a stud fantasy qb? :blackdot:
Well, he's my stud (that doesn't sound right :unsure: ). That's what you get when you wait to grab a QB till the 8th round in a 14 team league.Also adding, I think many of us BB owners (myself included) were kind of lulled to sleep stat wise after his past month or so of ~ 200 yds and ~ 1 td performances. At least that's what I was thinking before kickoff, sitting here in Denver watching the snow dumping - just about any QB can go for 200 and 1, right? At least (on the bright side) the loss to Denver will probably ensure PIT is playing starters through the FF season since they'll now be chasing NE and INDY for playoff HFA.
 
Snow (and I live in Denver), solid run game vs. the inept donkeys, DEN struggling, possible blow out w/ no reason to pass, etc...Benched him for friggin Campbell :blackdot: leaving about 30 on the bench. This brilliant move on my part will likely cost me a game.NEVER BENCH YOUR STUDS!say it with me now...NEVER BENCH YOUR STUDS!
Is Ben really a stud though? I've been trying to upgrade him all season.
 
I benched Roth for EManning. I liked Mannings matchup better. I am still leading going into tonight with my opponent having Wayne and me starting Harrison(hopefully he plays tonight.

 
I took the advice of the cheatsheets this past week and benched Ben 'Cheeseburger.' He had 4TD and would have scored me a whopping 29 points. Instead, I started D. Garrad who plays tonight against Indy. All I can hope is that Garrad gets a couple TDs. I ended up benching Cheeseburger around 12:45PM yesterday...cutoff time is 12:50PM for our league. Big mistake on my part.
I'm in the same boat...Benched Roth for Garrard after going back and forth all week. The huge difference in rankings in the cheatsheets made my decision for me. Oh well
 
I took the advice of the cheatsheets this past week and benched Ben 'Cheeseburger.' He had 4TD and would have scored me a whopping 29 points. Instead, I started D. Garrad who plays tonight against Indy. All I can hope is that Garrad gets a couple TDs. I ended up benching Cheeseburger around 12:45PM yesterday...cutoff time is 12:50PM for our league. Big mistake on my part.
Man I did the same and traded Big Ben for Jon Kitna on Friday so it will clear before kick off. Kitna scored 5 while Big Ben scored 31! luckily i still won but i'm really regretting big time!
 
I took the advice of the cheatsheets this past week and benched Ben 'Cheeseburger.' He had 4TD and would have scored me a whopping 29 points.
:rolleyes:The FBG Cheatsheet is not a time machine that can see into the future, it is someones best guess.
 
I'm going to assume with Garrard out of the game with an injury that the OP will cancel his subscription for clearly not being able to predict this injury. ####### FBGers. Nothing but thieves. Any fool could've foreseen the high probability of a Garrard injury.

BTW, I know that you care but with Garrard in for Roth in two leagues and Najeh filling bye weeks in the same leagues, I'll go 1-1 but onlu because of Watshon and Welker. If you can't be good, be lucky.

 
I see that FBG has Favre ranked as the 16th best QB this week. Did we learn nothing from last week?

The Broncos defense has re-tooled to focus on stopping the run (although they still cannot stop anybody via run or pass now). Champ Bailey is still gimpy. The Broncos defense simply stinks. When your hometown newspaper is making jokes about opposing teams deactivating their punters for the Broncos game (because your defense cannot stop anybody) you know you are bad!

I'm telling you right here and now. Brett Favre is going to have a HUGE game on Monday. Huge!

 
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I see that FBG has Favre ranked as the 16th best QB this week. Did we learn nothing from last week?The Broncos defense has re-tooled to focus on stopping the run (although they still cannot stop anybody via run or pass now). Champ Bailey is still gimpy. The Broncos defense simply stinks.I'm telling you right here and now. Brett Favre is going to have a HUGE game on Monday. Huge!
didnt Dre BLy bang up his shoulder too?
 

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