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Wikkidpissah - Life Manual Thread (1 Viewer)
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Man of Constant Sorrow
Footballguy
Ok. I have already mentioned that I agree with the problem of language.
At this point, I will be practical, as it works better for me in real life than skepticism.
I agree with the need for a dictionary.
The first thing I would want to determine, is the language to use.
English, here, yes. But I mean a more subtle language distinction. Such as:
Philosophical/Scientific/Theological/Artistic/Vernacular/etc.
Many different approaches exist, and often have over lapping terms with different meanings...possibly subtle yet very important.
There is also the eclectic approach and terms can be defined ground up.
At this point, in a vacuum, vernacular seems the easiest. However, determining exactly what vernacular is, is not easy itself. Plus, it is the quickest to change.
In a smaller community, I like the eclectic approach.
I guess, I would have to poll my target audience and try to determine the most effective subtle language approach and work up from there.
Have you any thoughts on this?
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Man of Constant Sorrow
Footballguy
Wanted to quote this as it relates to above.
Also, I wanted to clarify that I do understand that whatever subtle language used, it's intended to be built upon to achieve the goal. So, I'm not suggesting using the language as is, but rather as a foundation.
Tho, as noted, eclectic is my favorite if practical.
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Man of Constant Sorrow
Footballguy
I just thought of one other possibility.
Perhaps this is how language originated, I dunno, so it may not be an improvement.
But, there is also a self-forming & self-defining possibility.
Eventual mutaul agreement (through shared experience) upon a once non-sense term. With enough trust of the experience, it could even be conveyed in any language as longer as the reader truly felt and empathized with the experience being described.
If that were to occur it would not matter what word was originally used. It would become itself eventually...so to speak.
Perhaps this is how language originated, I dunno, so it may not be an improvement.
But, there is also a self-forming & self-defining possibility.
Eventual mutaul agreement (through shared experience) upon a once non-sense term. With enough trust of the experience, it could even be conveyed in any language as longer as the reader truly felt and empathized with the experience being described.
If that were to occur it would not matter what word was originally used. It would become itself eventually...so to speak.
I don't think there is one definition for this. I think that is part of the problem. It might even feed into the "rage". If you are being told that X is a well lived life but that doesn't fit your lifestyle then you could end up being "forced" to live some perfect lifestyle that isn't for you adding to your "rage". Seems like a never ending battle of figuring out who is right about what a well lived life is.
I think there are multiple paths to a well lived life that influence and define what a well lived life is. I don't think there is a single correct answer and trying to force everyone into one definition adds to the frustration and rage.
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Forced was the wrong meaning. I basically meant if this life manual defined what a well lived life is it may not meet the definition for everyone (which is what I thought your original comment was leading to). If it isn't the same for everyone and people try and live that way because some manual said so it could lead to frustration and add to the rage.
beer 30
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
Henry Ford
Footballguy
For instance, if I said the best way to educate kids is to give them the tools necessary to be a world-famous scientist, that would be weird. If I said it was to give them the tools necessary to reach their potential in a career that interests them, that might be a better definition.
Phil Elliott
Footballguy
Will this dictionary and manual be developed/shared with the tribes of the Andaman Islands? Their idea of a "well lived life" may differ from any consensus. They may differ on the idea of moving "mankind forward" also. Not saying anyone is right or wrong.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
Good stuff.
Let me make it clear, or clearer. There is great evidence that the psychological makeup of today's average human being is almost as dramatically different from 200 years ago as our circumstances.
Two centuries ago, most people imagined that the realm of their thoughts and emotions weren't even their own. Rather, they saw it as a battleground between good & evil, God & Satan, for their immortal soul. Many among those believed that the battle was already lost, that we are damned and/or doomed from the start. Only by a very specific code - which, surprisingly, gave the few great power over the many - could we keep the forces of evil from delivering Hell upon this Earth. Two centuries before that, people didn't just imagine that. Everyone knew it - their insides were wholly-owned subsidiaries of the divine.
We are breaking away from that. We are not breaking away from morality, as many assume. We are breaking away from control.
To be in charge of oneself is an awesome responsibility. Outside of taking a little while to celebrate one's freedom, i can't imagine any sensible individual even conceiving of managing the exigencies of life, relationships, identity without any form of guidance or practice, but that's precisely what we've done.
Part of the reason for that is psychology. The roots of that particular "science" is based in aberrance, in diagnosIs and treatment of the dramatic exceptions of human behavior. Because it also had to battle the Church for hegemony over individual personality, it has a rebel's mark upon it. There is a reason why rebels do not govern well (a subject for another time) and the mental arts suffer unto that yoke.
Every other aspect of health is built on models. Let us discover how a system works, what is optimum performance, what are enhancers, what are detractors, dangers. Society effectively skipped the "optimum performance" part, simply because one faced the Church in a fight to the death with each attempt. Now that we are free to do so, Big Psychology has become a religion unto itself. Not useless, but already a bureaucracy.
This time around, we don't have to say, "This is the way it is, you have to follow this to the letter or fail" That is a control function, not a learning function. And we have to know what a Spider 2 Y Banana is before we call the play. I am attempting to teach people what that is using vernacular of daily use.
Then again, individuality can be a bit of a ruse. Human beings are animals with a computer on top. The computer has never been fully integrated because the animal won't let it push the buttons. Simple as that.
But, because we are animals who haven't integrated our computers, we are NOwhere near as individual as we think we are. There are eleven, maybe fourteen, personality types and behavior falls quite predictably within those types. Having been a jokewriter, psych worker & poker player in my three careers, i have the reactive flow charts of those personality types down like Brown and can predict, with minimum information, what most people will do most of the time. If i didn't i would never attempt to propose and teach a behavorial system on a frikkin fantasy football website.
Stay tuned.
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beer 30
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wikkidpissah
Footballguy
One of the reasons i never started a thread like this on my own is that, whenever i call humans "typical" or "animalistic", response dries up like a billionaire's tear ducts and reminds me that i will never see substantial yield from this kind of work in my lifetime.
beer 30
Footballguy
Define yield. Monetary will be similar to the emoji. Personal, as well as pushing the human race forward into a mode of thinking that is not currently accepted? I'd think those would be off the charts. If you're a greedy *******, sure, keep it to yourself. If you want to save mankind from eating itself, cry havoc and let slip the words of wikkidpissah!
One of the reasons i never started a thread like this on my own is that, whenever i call humans "typical" or "animalistic", response dries up like a billionaire's tear ducts and reminds me that i will never see substantial yield from this kind of work in my lifetime.
Galileo
Footballguy
Many of the greats were not appreciated or fully realized until after their time had past. Referring to animals as animalistic isn't that a bit like calling water wet? Carry on...
One of the reasons i never started a thread like this on my own is that, whenever i call humans "typical" or "animalistic", response dries up like a billionaire's tear ducts and reminds me that i will never see substantial yield from this kind of work in my lifetime.
Galileo
Footballguy
Well, it depends if you are talking light or pigments. To be honest, there is no color...just frequency/energy. Color is just a human interpretation and is relative to one's perspective.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
Money has nothing to do with it. My only tiny selfishness is for posterity. There is a provision in my will that states "If I'm published, i'd like to be buried with a headstone so readers may get inspiration from the site as I have done with some of my idols. If not, spark me up!".
But it is far more than that, actually. I have been at this for 20+ years - if not my entire life - and a popularizer of my theories for over a decade. The phenomenon you quoted is not of recent vintage. It is disappointing unto discouraging.
In addition, one of the things people who've had success with the program invariably note is how repulsive other people begin to appear to them once they have. I had to develop an entire chapter dedicated to dealing with that. Knowing how trapped y'all are makes me yearn to see you free, if only for the reduction in personal wear & tear.
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Gr00vus
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wikkidpissah
Footballguy
Never been a pot smoker. I have two speeds on weed - game-show host and serial killer. I only toke with musicians i work with, to be social, and ladies who wind the day down and tighten their libidos with puff.
I tripped several hundred times as a teenager. Never since.
My head has been a holiday camp since i can remember. The only enhancements i've been partial to have been those who keep me awake to enjoy it more. I think Keith Richards (who was an acquaintance at one time) would enjoy snorting my ashes.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Rattle and Hum
Footballguy
This is my blackdot.
Achieving The freedom is not
Likely for a Lions fan.
Spring. Draft. Hope. Blackdot.
Achieving The freedom is not
Likely for a Lions fan.
Spring. Draft. Hope. Blackdot.
Man of Constant Sorrow
Footballguy
Yeah. When I listed "vernacular" as a suble language distinction, I was thinking of your work.wikkidpissah said:
However, I also see elements of the artistic (literary). And, most impressively, elements of the self-defining.
For example, some of the parts that don't come naturally to me, I absorb best by empathizing with the pictures you paint. That which I receive, then becomes my definition.
Of course, it may be flawed, but through further reflection and new pictures from you, the self-defined word better defines itself.
I think.
Man of Constant Sorrow
Footballguy
I wanna clarify this.
When I speak of your "work", I'm encompassing all your posts. The way I've seen it, everything you say is somehow about living, perspective, humor or many other things that make life better; for me at least.
beer 30
Footballguy
well said, thanks for having our back 
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
THIS IS IMPORTANT
THIS is why you can't improvise your way through life and expect to be happy
THIS is why a billionaire living the dream can be as miserable as a Bidi girl sold into slavery by her family.
THIS is why everyone's upbringings (except those involving molestation & severe privation) are moot.
THIS is why our inner ape won't let our inner computer run the show.
THIS is why we are constantly sabotaging ourselves and why we take life personally, even when it's none of our business.
Rage.
Yeah, wikkid, you already said that. What about it?
Well, i could go into the amygdala and hippocampus and our triune brain structure and preternatural alarm systems (as the Human Owner's Manual will), but the greatest discovery in my 20+ years work on achieving & maintaining happiness is the key to why people with good lives and fine resolve can fall apart, sink into pain and become unable to trust anything inside themselves and spend each day in fear of falling down an awful inner hole. It is why we can have a great day and be a mess by bedtime.
Due to a design flaw in our mechanism, every human being has an inaccessible pool of distilled rage under the surface. One doesn't feel it as rage, per se, but it poisons or at least colors everything we do. It is why each and every occurence can light an inner fuse. It is relatively easy to explain and, once realized, develops its own mechanism to counter it, like a new muscle from exercise.
As I said earlier, the first instinct of every organism, every person, every itty bitty baby is dominance. This is why toddlers smash Cheerios and milk on the tray of their hi-chairs without even being in an attack mode and will flat punch a smiling face that gets close enough to do so. Conquer everything - the surest step to survival and, therefore, the first.
Parents, whether they intend to or not, civilize their children by constantly frustrating every attempt at dominance until the child becomes willing and able to consider alternatives, which the parent then teaches them or doesn't.
Once again, the product of the frustration of dominance is rage. The reason why a child who doesn't get his impulse item at the checkout counter tears at his clothes and bugs out his eyes or whose dolly being left behind causes more grief than if the whole family had been eaten by raptors is rage over a failure at dominance.
There are thousands and thousands of incidents of childhood rage in every life. Too many to count and, certainly, remember.
Wrong. We remember all of them. Not the incidents, but the effects, and those memories are cumulatively and quantitatively stored in our psyches without the stories of their cause attached (mostly because they are all too reactive & silly) as tabs for later access. Unfair. Indulge me a brief explanation of the science of the phenomenon.
The human pre-frontal cortex, often metaphorically referred to as the conductor of our orchestra of thoughts and impulses, is the culmination of four and a half billion years of earthy progress, God's divine plan or both. The most poorly-functioning one is capable of more combinations than there are atoms in this solar system. It has two rapid growth periods, each of approximately 18 months' duration - the first, from ages 6 months to 2 years, so that an infant can begin to distinguish the importance of input and remember things of significance. The second phase may or may not coincide with physical puberty - the science hasn't gone far enough to establish a connection or lack of one - but usually occurs between ages 11-13, when the final growth spurt hardwires the brain into a single coordinated organ of function.
This allows a period of approximately ten years when the brain is virtually a sponge - aware enough for simple understanding, but without executive function to interfere with intake. Really an excellent blueprint for optimum development, except for one thing.
The hardwiring of the completion of the second growth spurt cuts off and seals a lot of useful function. I could go a little ways into the effects it has on dreams, memory and other mental processes but neither the science nor my understanding is evolved enough for a complete picture. The sealing keeps rote lessons and important codes of behavior available for ready access and confident use but, while this hierarchy works beautifully for our active and reactive needs, it leaves a lot of information unlabelled and only loosely stored in a forgotten closet, so to speak. Pieces can fall out, which is why we can suddenly "know" Jeopardy answers that we had no remembrance of learning (and which i have a feeling that our dreamscapes file &/or discard), but it's mostly useless, homeless junk.
Including, unfortunately, the nameless rage of every childhood frustration, right there behind the times tables, state capitals, manners, lessons, tastes. One has reasons for using all the other rememberings, so they have tabs for quick & easy recall, but everything one experiences bounces off one's entire capacity, including this dark closet of............wait for it............triggers. Any experience that bounces off a nameless memory can spark a fuse down to our lowest, animal processes. That is what is happening when you can't let go of a slight, a moral outrage, social discomfiture or fugitive notion. Your animalistic alarm system has been moved up one or more levels of urgency and not informed why.
And your closet's passive functions may be even more poisonous. This is the organ of dis-ease Freud sought. Why, and how i found out about it, next time.
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Henry Ford
Footballguy
A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in.
One of the reasons i never started a thread like this on my own is that, whenever i call humans "typical" or "animalistic", response dries up like a billionaire's tear ducts and reminds me that i will never see substantial yield from this kind of work in my lifetime.
Binky The Doormat
Footballguy
NotSmart
Footballguy
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
That's why i never started this thread on my own, tho i've taught or treated a couple dozen FFAppers on my program - Chief D sees the Hand of God in found pennies and song mixes and gets 25 responses in an hour, I announce & describe a foundation of personality which replaces Freud's concepts about our inner ####storm and get a joke, a f'realsies & a smilie in 24 hours. I'll post the next lesson next week but, seriously............
Man of Constant Sorrow
Footballguy
Heya wikkid.
I'm still digesting your last post. I liked it, GB.
Firstly, I definitely follow your point on rage, as highlighted here:
I'm still digesting your last post. I liked it, GB.
Firstly, I definitely follow your point on rage, as highlighted here:
I really look forward to getting deeper into this.wikkidpissah said:
This snippet clarifies some things for me that I think I misunderstood earlier. Nice.wikkidpissah said:
I like the picture you painted here.wikkidpissah said:
glock
"Don't grumble, give a whistle!"
There's a whole lot of awesomeness to digest up in there. I'm going through it for the third time...
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Rattle and Hum
Footballguy
My experience with watching toddlers has always left me curious about their need to test boundaries. May I humbly suggest that rage may be superseded by the individual's need for CONTROL. I feel like rage may be the bi-product (energy) derived from one's lack of control in their personal environment. An 18-month old throwing Cheerios on the floor is testing her control over her environment. She may feel rage if not allowed to do this. She may develop strong rage if yelled at or spanked. She may grow up with more problematic rage than others if further attempts to control her life and environment are stifled with hostile punishments. I wonder if fixing ones rage is is akin to attacking a cold with a cough drop. So, I'm suggesting that anyone who learns to control their rage may still struggle with their inability to control their world to their satisfaction.
If an individual was given literally everything that they wanted would they still have rage? I'd submit the rage comes from the inability to express desires, urges, and control as they like.
Society teaches us to keep our rage in check but the batter of control remains in the baking bowl. Example: A guy making $45k/yr at the unstable plant who buys a $60k boat may not be acting out of Rage but his inability to Control other aspects of his life. He may not have much say in his job but is sure going to have some fun. It's his way of exercising Control in his own life
I do not have a healthy baseline of love, security, and community. So, I do struggle with rage but, somehow, have it mostly in check. However, I'm still an unhealthy person because I've never been allowed/encouraged to forge a healthy sense of control. As such, in one of those who feels life happens to me than the other way around. I'd guess healthy folks do not feel this way, take fewer selfies, and generally accept limits better, capitalizing on those things they positively can control.
Admittedly, I may be using the term rage more superficial than what was intended by Wikkid.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
This is spot on, but 99% of rage is much more insipid than that. The lion's share of our behavior is leaks or sublimations or abstractions of rage, passively discharged. Flamboyance is rage, hyperactivity is rage, gossip is rage, insomnia is rage, cheering is rage, most FFA discussion (the need to rate one's favorites over another's) is rage and, most of all, taking life personally - a phrase my students hear more than any other - is rage. One need not ever feel the actual full voice of rage to have one's entire life colored by it. As i said, if you place the word "rage" where Freud put "sex" you'd have a much clearer picture of how the modern human operates.
Most of us have had a spouse "save up" on us. Traditionally, females are both disinclined and discouraged to vent rage and develop a pathology of filing small miscreance until the most innocuous straw breaks the back of their rage and its object hears about every similar felony & misdemeanor one has committed since 1978 in one breath. Well, the methodology may be traditionally female (and is why "triggers" are such a topic these days"), but the pathology is the same within each of us.
And we don't see it, even if we're asked to do so. Early in my program, i give a general description of "taking life personally" (reacting to elements beyond one's control) to students and then ask them to log an entire day's episodes of so doing. The average response is 4 or 5, with some saying "i didn't have any the first day, so i tried it again" and no one listing more than 10. When i go into the specifics of precisely what behaviors & reactions, rituals & fetishes are rage looking for an outlet, the estimates expand to from 40 to 270 and i still think they're underestimating. But, then, that's my rage.
Human beings became human beings because they are both fight and flight animals. The human mind is eternally vigilant for signals of danger and opportunity for food, status, victory. When, as a function our long rearing process, our reactive control panel floats on a pool of rage from the memory of nameless incidents of childhood frustration for every incident to reflect across, our alarm status is a LOT more engaged than we are aware. Almost all of that dangerously wasteful energy can be bypassed with preparedness.
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ProstheticRGK
Footballguy
Dominance. Submission. Conqueror. Conquest. Con. Mark. Victor. Vanquished.
round and round the maypole, streaming pretty ribbons and flowers. Making pretty patterns.
everything. Nothing. Every thing. No thing.
all of it a great puppet show, the universal consciousness making hand puppets under a blanket. It looks like a dog, a t-rex a king and a pauper. It's all the same hand making patterns from the same material.
Submit. Serve. Let go. Bob Dylan said it: "It might be the devil, or it might be the lord, but yer gonna have to serve somebody." Eject your focus from the great dichotomous chuck e. cheese ballpit of polarity and choose to serve. Serve a person. Serve a god (yours or someone else's). Serve an overriding principle. Serve a 12-course meal. Serve a life sentence.
that closet full of rage is like a barrel full of monkeys, fighting for the the controls of a spaceship. Give them some peanuts and set the controls for true northeastwestsouth. The monkeys are entertaining, useful and oftentimes good company. But they have no business at the controls of a spaceship.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
That can literally explain everything that's wrong with the world and very little of what's right. We have an amazing living computer, the culmination of all earthly things, inside us but invariably let a monkey push the buttons.
Man of Constant Sorrow
Footballguy
Rage - always a great topic, in this context.
Gotta question, and it may be skippin' ahead in the planned chapters, but...
...regarding rage, can it be eliminated, or is proper management - partly through understanding it - the course of action?
Or, is it both - management can lead to elimination?
If this is more than what is on the table right now, no need to delve deeper - just know its a question rattlin' inside me.
Gotta question, and it may be skippin' ahead in the planned chapters, but...
...regarding rage, can it be eliminated, or is proper management - partly through understanding it - the course of action?
Or, is it both - management can lead to elimination?
If this is more than what is on the table right now, no need to delve deeper - just know its a question rattlin' inside me.
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jomar
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wikkidpissah
Footballguy
when you start to see the entire human race like an ex whose pettiness you can't believe love once excused, it's a trip....
Judge Smails
Footballguy
No intent to slight. This is deep, thought provoking stuff. Need time to absorb, reflect, think
Cowboysfan8
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Steeler
Footballguy
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
OK, i'll put up another segment today.
wikkidpissah
Footballguy
My last SO was a sweet, troubled gal 20 years younger than me. She had lost her husband & father of her two kids to an industrial accident, tried on a passel of young losers who shook up her life and horrified her children and finally took a chance an ol' bastage she worked with who made her laugh and was good for her Michael & Genny.
After the folks at work congratulated me for playin' out my league, they cautioned me that Bex was more determined to be miserable than any person they knew. I knew it too, but she was cute and i was goin to seed and i felt relatively safe cuz i had long since passed the point of trying to fix women.
But, oh, the darkness in this girl. And the ridiculous selfhelpedness which kept her mired in myth about how to pile up enough delusions that you don't think about killing yourself so much. The only thing i couldn't abide was her view that, if she did this & this and grinded it out long enough that she might find some kind of happiness, like it was Coronado's Gold or sumn. "You can't claw your way to happiness, Bex.", i finally yelled, "The act defeats the purpose! Happiness is just THERE. Find it & be happy, for crissakes!!"
Wait a minute! Had i fallen across something here? Could happiness just be extant, sitting there waiting for us, the natural consequence of being ready to receive it? I thought&thought&thought and any of you who know how voracious my processes & abilities are can imagine how far i chased this notion in the year i pursued little else. Through me, past God & humanity, all the way to big cats on the Serengeti scratching their bellies, ignoring the flies and falling lightly to sleep after a three-day kill and the games they played with their cousins during & after picking dem bones.
It's there, my friends, out there circling your existence waiting to land if you will only clear ample space for it and wave it in. And it will stay as long as you don't crowd it out, proving God's love, confirming life's grace, confounding our consipracies against ourselves or whatever abilding illusion about the best things in life have you thinking about the reason for and possibility of it.
I know how to teach runway clearance, happiness guidance & storage & maintenance. Interested?
epilogue: I couldnt make Bex happy but i made her want to be and moved her back to her tribal lands so her kids would have ready grandparents and she ready babysitters. She found a decent husband and they been settled on the rez for a decade. I don't envy him, but she still emails that everything's OK. i'll have the 2nd part of this lesson tomorrow or the next day.
After the folks at work congratulated me for playin' out my league, they cautioned me that Bex was more determined to be miserable than any person they knew. I knew it too, but she was cute and i was goin to seed and i felt relatively safe cuz i had long since passed the point of trying to fix women.
But, oh, the darkness in this girl. And the ridiculous selfhelpedness which kept her mired in myth about how to pile up enough delusions that you don't think about killing yourself so much. The only thing i couldn't abide was her view that, if she did this & this and grinded it out long enough that she might find some kind of happiness, like it was Coronado's Gold or sumn. "You can't claw your way to happiness, Bex.", i finally yelled, "The act defeats the purpose! Happiness is just THERE. Find it & be happy, for crissakes!!"
Wait a minute! Had i fallen across something here? Could happiness just be extant, sitting there waiting for us, the natural consequence of being ready to receive it? I thought&thought&thought and any of you who know how voracious my processes & abilities are can imagine how far i chased this notion in the year i pursued little else. Through me, past God & humanity, all the way to big cats on the Serengeti scratching their bellies, ignoring the flies and falling lightly to sleep after a three-day kill and the games they played with their cousins during & after picking dem bones.
It's there, my friends, out there circling your existence waiting to land if you will only clear ample space for it and wave it in. And it will stay as long as you don't crowd it out, proving God's love, confirming life's grace, confounding our consipracies against ourselves or whatever abilding illusion about the best things in life have you thinking about the reason for and possibility of it.
I know how to teach runway clearance, happiness guidance & storage & maintenance. Interested?
epilogue: I couldnt make Bex happy but i made her want to be and moved her back to her tribal lands so her kids would have ready grandparents and she ready babysitters. She found a decent husband and they been settled on the rez for a decade. I don't envy him, but she still emails that everything's OK. i'll have the 2nd part of this lesson tomorrow or the next day.
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