DonnyT33
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In numbers of new and active players playing the game?
I've been thinking about this since coming home Vegas and hearing lots of Rice owners swearing off FF forever then the AP news hit even harder recently. For the last ten years or so i've often wondered when FF would hit its peak as far as new players joining in the game. I kept thinking it would peak at some point but amazingly it just keep growing bigger and bigger.
My question is with so many owners being hurt with Rice and now AP among others who are missing time in such a strange way (if this was a blown out knee or an injury i doubt id even question this) since drafts have been finished. Will the FF industry/hobby/pay for play game finally peak out this year and begin to level off as far as numbers of active and new players go? Like i said, out in Vegas I talked to many owners who simply said they were all done playing FF..esp. anything in the High Stakes category and that was just over Ray Rice who was going in the 4th-7th rounds out there but now with this AP situation its a major blow to one team in every single league being played anywhere from hometown freebie leagues to 10k or more a team HS leagues.
Now trust me I am not one of those who would quit playing as I just love the hobby too much, but i wasn't taking AP very much unless he fell to late in the first round but did take some chances on Rice and it just might cost me a pretty penny in some HS leagues/Contests were I loaded up on WR's early in drafts and targeted Rice as a RB #2 with the hopes that with the O-line upgrade in Balt and his good spring/summer showing that he just might be back closer to his old self than he was last year. I really did need him as my RB depth took a hit drafting the way i did this year. Luckily i did hit (so far) on some later round RB's that might make up for it a bit but wow would i have loved to plug in Rice this week in some of those teams i took 3/4 stud Wrs/Te's early in drafts. It all has left a pretty bad taste in my mouth to be honest and im as diehard a FF player as we come
I can roll with the punches quite well but things like this Rice/AP situations happening now its makes you wonder if spending so much cash on these HS leagues and Contests is still worth it anymore even for some diehard players? Imagine and early in season draft... starting with AP/Gordon (there was talk early in year that he would get an injunction forcing his issue to be handled after this season and play this whole year) /Rice or any draft that an owner took AP and or Rice both?
Its how its happened really, at least we can rationalize it if our players are lost to injury and not the way these guys are missing time now. If AP/Rice owners were able to at least handcuff Pierce/Forsett/Assiatta to fall back it might help some on but lets face it an AP/Rice RB tandem is a huge difference than a Pierce/Assiata no matter if you got the handcuffs or not
I know this could be a touchy subject around here but with so many owners with AP and or Rice, esp. AP now missing a first round pick and a top three if not first overall as i've seen him got #1 many times this year. Will enough owners get turned off enough to say that they just cant afford or want to deal with such things happening again to them and give up the game? I don't see any way those owners could get any help from the leagues they are in or even if a rule could be added in to help owners is such situations going forward. i do know there are now FF insurance options out there that just may be looking more appealing after this seasons early nightmares with AP and Rice and even Gordon to a point( don't get me going on that....2nd hand smoke and a negative test along with a positive from the same exact urine sample taken from a threshold so low that one could get a positive result if you walked by a group of youths smoking some cannabis or riding in a car with people smoking it around you as proven by Gordons legal team at his appeal hearing. But i won't get into that here as i know there's a huge ongoing thread about his situation here.
Ok then, Do any of you guys feel all these strange situations..AP and Rice and Gordon to a point will cause FF to lose it's momentum in the coming years or will it just go bye as if they were lost to injury? Will certain owners just give up the game over these things and will it cause new players to not get involved etc? Thoughts and feelings on that is was im looking for and wondering about myself. i do love this hobby and imo it will continue on in a very strong manner. i do wonder if these weird happenings have caused it to peak out this year though?
m just interested in hearing how some of the Vets around here think about this issue? Because ive been playing this game [SIZE=13.63636302948px]like a [/SIZE]fanatic[SIZE=13.63636302948px] [/SIZE]for almost 30 years now and every year i say wow this game is still gaining and growing in popularity, when will it peak out? I'm afraid i finally may have got my answer..this coming year. I just cant help but feel with this AP situation especially that with one AP owner in every league just about having their year doine like that will keep them from coming back and putting down their cash or playing as much as in years past. That and any new players thinking of playing must wonder how they could ever overcome something like that happening to them etc etc...
I know i'll never stop playing this great game till i'm in a wooden box but i get the feeling that my question of when this game will peak has been answered this year buy Adrian Peterson's ongoing issue. I do hope he gets back asap but its not looking good for him at this point and speaking of coming back..why can't Rice get the six games for a first offense that's been written in the new rules by the NFL on domestic abuse....or will he eventually get to that and if so would any NFL team take his baggage on this year, would Balt take him back even if he did get that type break in his appeal? Hmm i hope so im keeping him until i know better!!
Ok im done finally back to trying to make up for these nightmares in pick ups all over the place!
well who has some thoughts for me on this and keep it to the topic? I know i suck at typing/grammer etc so please don't go there but do hope i got my point across and I do feel it is a quite important one imo for the hobby as a whole esp. those in the business in any way shape or form.
DT-Azzurri
I will check back for any thoughts added but may not get involved in much back and forth ( busy busy busy ) posting but will keep an eye on the thread for sure.
I've been thinking about this since coming home Vegas and hearing lots of Rice owners swearing off FF forever then the AP news hit even harder recently. For the last ten years or so i've often wondered when FF would hit its peak as far as new players joining in the game. I kept thinking it would peak at some point but amazingly it just keep growing bigger and bigger.
My question is with so many owners being hurt with Rice and now AP among others who are missing time in such a strange way (if this was a blown out knee or an injury i doubt id even question this) since drafts have been finished. Will the FF industry/hobby/pay for play game finally peak out this year and begin to level off as far as numbers of active and new players go? Like i said, out in Vegas I talked to many owners who simply said they were all done playing FF..esp. anything in the High Stakes category and that was just over Ray Rice who was going in the 4th-7th rounds out there but now with this AP situation its a major blow to one team in every single league being played anywhere from hometown freebie leagues to 10k or more a team HS leagues.
Now trust me I am not one of those who would quit playing as I just love the hobby too much, but i wasn't taking AP very much unless he fell to late in the first round but did take some chances on Rice and it just might cost me a pretty penny in some HS leagues/Contests were I loaded up on WR's early in drafts and targeted Rice as a RB #2 with the hopes that with the O-line upgrade in Balt and his good spring/summer showing that he just might be back closer to his old self than he was last year. I really did need him as my RB depth took a hit drafting the way i did this year. Luckily i did hit (so far) on some later round RB's that might make up for it a bit but wow would i have loved to plug in Rice this week in some of those teams i took 3/4 stud Wrs/Te's early in drafts. It all has left a pretty bad taste in my mouth to be honest and im as diehard a FF player as we come
I can roll with the punches quite well but things like this Rice/AP situations happening now its makes you wonder if spending so much cash on these HS leagues and Contests is still worth it anymore even for some diehard players? Imagine and early in season draft... starting with AP/Gordon (there was talk early in year that he would get an injunction forcing his issue to be handled after this season and play this whole year) /Rice or any draft that an owner took AP and or Rice both?Its how its happened really, at least we can rationalize it if our players are lost to injury and not the way these guys are missing time now. If AP/Rice owners were able to at least handcuff Pierce/Forsett/Assiatta to fall back it might help some on but lets face it an AP/Rice RB tandem is a huge difference than a Pierce/Assiata no matter if you got the handcuffs or not
I know this could be a touchy subject around here but with so many owners with AP and or Rice, esp. AP now missing a first round pick and a top three if not first overall as i've seen him got #1 many times this year. Will enough owners get turned off enough to say that they just cant afford or want to deal with such things happening again to them and give up the game? I don't see any way those owners could get any help from the leagues they are in or even if a rule could be added in to help owners is such situations going forward. i do know there are now FF insurance options out there that just may be looking more appealing after this seasons early nightmares with AP and Rice and even Gordon to a point( don't get me going on that....2nd hand smoke and a negative test along with a positive from the same exact urine sample taken from a threshold so low that one could get a positive result if you walked by a group of youths smoking some cannabis or riding in a car with people smoking it around you as proven by Gordons legal team at his appeal hearing. But i won't get into that here as i know there's a huge ongoing thread about his situation here.
Ok then, Do any of you guys feel all these strange situations..AP and Rice and Gordon to a point will cause FF to lose it's momentum in the coming years or will it just go bye as if they were lost to injury? Will certain owners just give up the game over these things and will it cause new players to not get involved etc? Thoughts and feelings on that is was im looking for and wondering about myself. i do love this hobby and imo it will continue on in a very strong manner. i do wonder if these weird happenings have caused it to peak out this year though?
m just interested in hearing how some of the Vets around here think about this issue? Because ive been playing this game [SIZE=13.63636302948px]like a [/SIZE]fanatic[SIZE=13.63636302948px] [/SIZE]for almost 30 years now and every year i say wow this game is still gaining and growing in popularity, when will it peak out? I'm afraid i finally may have got my answer..this coming year. I just cant help but feel with this AP situation especially that with one AP owner in every league just about having their year doine like that will keep them from coming back and putting down their cash or playing as much as in years past. That and any new players thinking of playing must wonder how they could ever overcome something like that happening to them etc etc...
I know i'll never stop playing this great game till i'm in a wooden box but i get the feeling that my question of when this game will peak has been answered this year buy Adrian Peterson's ongoing issue. I do hope he gets back asap but its not looking good for him at this point and speaking of coming back..why can't Rice get the six games for a first offense that's been written in the new rules by the NFL on domestic abuse....or will he eventually get to that and if so would any NFL team take his baggage on this year, would Balt take him back even if he did get that type break in his appeal? Hmm i hope so im keeping him until i know better!!
Ok im done finally back to trying to make up for these nightmares in pick ups all over the place!
well who has some thoughts for me on this and keep it to the topic? I know i suck at typing/grammer etc so please don't go there but do hope i got my point across and I do feel it is a quite important one imo for the hobby as a whole esp. those in the business in any way shape or form.
DT-Azzurri
I will check back for any thoughts added but may not get involved in much back and forth ( busy busy busy ) posting but will keep an eye on the thread for sure.
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but have one to many times not gotten paid for a win. But that's beside the point. Now as for this crazy accusation...i was suspended here for like three years and i'd did not come back here even once for at least 2-3 years after that. So what you're talking about has to be 7-8 years ago? Well excuse me! Not only could i not log in i could not see the entire board for two years! If i had a bet i have no idea what it was how it got made how it finished or if i won or lost for that matter or how much it was for even! I must have more more than one side bet going on here over the years i was active here before getting suspended! Strange i see no one claiming they lost any to me huh? Bass whoever do you see me changing my user name or trying to hide? Never happen, are you that desperate and hurting really or did you yapp so much and talk BS that you might not have deserved to get paid IF a bet was even had? But i got to run right now ill get back to this when i have time to and time to think about what the heck ur talking about and i better not remember or see any BS talk pointed at me from you or you wasted your time..but again if i lost a legit bet and its proved to me i have no problem paying up even if it was 7 years ago and i was blocked form this site for half of them. Whats funny here is my email never changed and i never heard a word about this from you or anyone for that matter that i recall and i have been bouncing in and around here every now and then even posted some and never heard this..but now this comes up? Shocked to say the least but if you point me to this 'be' i made ill pay with bells on with interest as long as you didn't talk BS when i had no chance to even log on or read this site know outcome of any bets and defend myself. I say that because i know what ive had to deal with here(and yes i given back just as well)over those past years.
