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Winners and Losers after first round (1 Viewer)

dmac37

dmac37

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Well with the first round over which players do you see going up or down?

I will list a few players I follow

Up:

Fitz- less double/triple teams

LeShoure- no RB 1st round and stud tackle, most likely need to draft defense for the next few rounds. I like the upside

Down:

Bradshaw- was hoping he would be a bell cow type RB this year

 
'dmac37 said:
Well with the first round over which players do you see going up or down?

I will list a few players I follow

Up:

Fitz- less double/triple teams

LeShoure- no RB 1st round and stud tackle, most likely need to draft defense for the next few rounds. I like the upside

Down:

Bradshaw- was hoping he would be a bell cow type RB this year
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Guess there's no reason to hang on to Da'rel Scott now either :^ /
 
A little off the radar, but:

GREG LITTLE

Browns didn't take Blackmon or any other WR with their top two picks, added Richardson which should help the offense move the ball a bit more and they added a "veteran" QB with a big arm that will likely be the week 1 starter. They'll certainly take another WR, but Little's arrow should be pointing up.

 
UP:

JAKE LOCKER - gets another weapon.

GREG LITTLE - gets a potentially decent QB.

BLAINE GABBERT - lol, well "up" is a relative term.

JOHN SKELTON - gets a nice WR2. Yes, Skelton.

WILLIS MCGAHEE - still a RB coming IMO, but not a 1st rounder.

DOWN:

BLOUNTE - buh-bye

AHMAD BRADSHAW - I guess down, but did anyone really not see another RB coming? Not a huge blow.

JUSTIN BLACKMON - sorry, guy.

COLT MCCOY - obviously

 
'The Comedian said:
UP:

JAKE LOCKER - gets another weapon.

GREG LITTLE - gets a potentially decent QB.

BLAINE GABBERT - lol, well "up" is a relative term.

JOHN SKELTON - gets a nice WR2. Yes, Skelton.

WILLIS MCGAHEE - still a RB coming IMO, but not a 1st rounder.

DOWN:

BLOUNTE - buh-bye

AHMAD BRADSHAW - I guess down, but did anyone really not see another RB coming? Not a huge blow.

JUSTIN BLACKMON - sorry, guy.

COLT MCCOY - obviously
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Another RB was coming but a first round talented RB was a tough blow.
 
'dmac37 said:
Well with the first round over which players do you see going up or down?I will list a few players I followUp:Fitz- less double/triple teamsLeShoure- no RB 1st round and stud tackle, most likely need to draft defense for the next few rounds. I like the upsideDown:Bradshaw- was hoping he would be a bell cow type RB this year
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I don't see how this helps Fitz. It's a wash. I do agree that this hurts Bradshaw. I still think he will be the primary back this year, but it looks like he will be splitting the touches again.How about Kenny Britt? Why does TN use a first round pick on a WR unless Britt's recovery is not going as well as expected. You can also throw Nate Washington into that list.Manningham? I thought he was going to a started for SF, but now? Not so sure.
 
Winner - AD That line is suddenly pretty good.

Loser - Sam Bradford... maybe he'll get help in the second

 
way to early to speculate, but we have nothing better to do for 21 hours until round 2 and 3... and there are very few losers so far:

Winners:

TRich- clear cut RB1

Blackmon- clear cut WR1 who should get targets

Fitz- will always get his targets, now with a viable WR accross the field

Martin- Blount is not a threat except maybe GL

DET Passing Game- solid pick up on OL

PIT Passing Game- ditto

Neutral:

Floyd- tough to be a WR1 with Fitz, don't know if they will pass enough

Wright- good landing spot for future, complement to Britt, but targets?

Little- got to think WR early in the 2nd

Bradford- will get a couple targets on day 2

Losers:

Blount- done

Bradshaw- is he healthy? why spend a 1st on Wilson?

Robinson/Thomas- complement players, not threats

 
I'd put Chad Henne in the winner category when he takes over. Though the presence of Blackmon might buy Gabbert another two weeks or so.

 
'BigSteelThrill said:
DeCastro should be an absolutely massive upgrade at G, and for all things that are part of the Steeler offense.
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:goodposting: That line was the biggest problem on the entire team. Maybe now Ben will have a bit of time to allow more deep routes to develop. Time for Mike Wallace to have an entire season like last years first half.
 
'Dragon1952 said:
'dmac37 said:
Well with the first round over which players do you see going up or down?

I will list a few players I follow

Up:

Fitz- less double/triple teams

LeShoure- no RB 1st round and stud tackle, most likely need to draft defense for the next few rounds. I like the upside

Down:

Bradshaw- was hoping he would be a bell cow type RB this year
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Guess there's no reason to hang on to Da'rel Scott now either :^ /
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The NYG brass knows the condition of Ahmed Bradshaw's foot, and it's ain't good.Great pick by the GMen, and a 10 slot slide for Bradshaw in the Dynasty RB rankings.

 
BIG winner: Michael Floyd.

This 1998, all over again when Randy Moss, talented but w ??'s comes into the league and gets C.C. in his ear 24/7 and keeps him straight.

Floyd gets the benefit of learning from FITZ every day. This is where the big payoff comes for him.

Big Loser: Blackmon. Forget the "should get targets". This team runs 50% of the time and has Blaine gabbert as the QB. I think the leading WR for the team last year had 44 catches. If you are going to get on the side and say this is good for Blackmon and Laurent Robinson, then by proxy, you are saying this means improvement for Gabbert. Do you really want to say that out loud?

 
'Shutout said:
BIG winner: Michael Floyd.This 1998, all over again when Randy Moss, talented but w ??'s comes into the league and gets C.C. in his ear 24/7 and keeps him straight.Floyd gets the benefit of learning from FITZ every day. This is where the big payoff comes for him.Big Loser: Blackmon. Forget the "should get targets". This team runs 50% of the time and has Blaine gabbert as the QB. I think the leading WR for the team last year had 44 catches. If you are going to get on the side and say this is good for Blackmon and Laurent Robinson, then by proxy, you are saying this means improvement for Gabbert. Do you really want to say that out loud?
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You have misspelled Henne several times in this post.
 
'Raiderfan32904 said:
I think Larry Fitz value went up with the selection of a true future #1 wideout in Floyd.
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I think of it as somewhat neutral - kind of a Roddy White/Julio Jones situation. Fitz will help having another solid WR on the other side, but have to think that some of his targets will go to Floyd.
 
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'The Comedian said:
'Shutout said:
BIG winner: Michael Floyd.This 1998, all over again when Randy Moss, talented but w ??'s comes into the league and gets C.C. in his ear 24/7 and keeps him straight.Floyd gets the benefit of learning from FITZ every day. This is where the big payoff comes for him.Big Loser: Blackmon. Forget the "should get targets". This team runs 50% of the time and has Blaine gabbert as the QB. I think the leading WR for the team last year had 44 catches. If you are going to get on the side and say this is good for Blackmon and Laurent Robinson, then by proxy, you are saying this means improvement for Gabbert. Do you really want to say that out loud?
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You have misspelled Henne several times in this post.
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That makes it better. :/
 
'Shutout said:
BIG winner: Michael Floyd.This 1998, all over again when Randy Moss, talented but w ??'s comes into the league and gets C.C. in his ear 24/7 and keeps him straight.Floyd gets the benefit of learning from FITZ every day. This is where the big payoff comes for him.Big Loser: Blackmon. Forget the "should get targets". This team runs 50% of the time and has Blaine gabbert as the QB. I think the leading WR for the team last year had 44 catches. If you are going to get on the side and say this is good for Blackmon and Laurent Robinson, then by proxy, you are saying this means improvement for Gabbert. Do you really want to say that out loud?
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I agree with Floyd. Some of us that were hoping Floyd might fall to 1.8 in a rookie draft may have just had those hopes dashed. He might still fall there, but I see him more at 1.5 or 1.6 now.
 
'Ron_Mexico said:
'Dragon1952 said:
'dmac37 said:
Well with the first round over which players do you see going up or down?

I will list a few players I follow

Up:

Fitz- less double/triple teams

LeShoure- no RB 1st round and stud tackle, most likely need to draft defense for the next few rounds. I like the upside

Down:

Bradshaw- was hoping he would be a bell cow type RB this year
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Guess there's no reason to hang on to Da'rel Scott now either :^ /
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The NYG brass knows the condition of Ahmed Bradshaw's foot, and it's ain't good.Great pick by the GMen, and a 10 slot slide for Bradshaw in the Dynasty RB rankings.
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Bradshaw's foot is good at the moment, but the Giants can't trust Bradshaw to stay healthy - they basically had to get a decent RB in there because Bradshaw's been hurt a lot. He'll always be an injury risk so they need quality RBs behind him. This may not be a bad thing, as Bradshaw's probably more effective in a time share and it may keep him healthy.
 
'Winning IS Everything said:
'Shutout said:
BIG winner: Michael Floyd.This 1998, all over again when Randy Moss, talented but w ??'s comes into the league and gets C.C. in his ear 24/7 and keeps him straight.Floyd gets the benefit of learning from FITZ every day. This is where the big payoff comes for him.Big Loser: Blackmon. Forget the "should get targets". This team runs 50% of the time and has Blaine gabbert as the QB. I think the leading WR for the team last year had 44 catches. If you are going to get on the side and say this is good for Blackmon and Laurent Robinson, then by proxy, you are saying this means improvement for Gabbert. Do you really want to say that out loud?
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I agree with Floyd. Some of us that were hoping Floyd might fall to 1.8 in a rookie draft may have just had those hopes dashed. He might still fall there, but I see him more at 1.5 or 1.6 now.
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I would've agreed with this for Floyd but unfortunately I don't see a franchise QB on the roster yet so he maybe a hold for a while. Blackmon, same as immediate impact won't be much.Bradshaw won't take so bad a hit as Wilson will be putting the ball on the ground and looking for homeruns every play and Coughlin will be turning purple and red in frustration.Blount won't go away quietly either and I really like Martin.I don't much like anything the Browns did, they compounded the TR pick by paying more with the trade, then over drafting Weeden. He would've been there in 2nd. TR will be good for fantasy for the first year maybe two until he's beaten down too much. I don't see him nearly the RB most do. They could've made a better choice @ 3 and took Martin later.Kendall Wright..? Another team that could've taken a higher impact lineman or LB and took the WR later. Good for Locker I guess but didn't see the great logic for the Titans
 
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'nickdib said:
Loser- Laurent Robinson. Was hoping he would be the jags top target
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I have him as a winner in my book.
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I do as well. Having another WR across from you is never a bad thing. Mike Thomas is OK, but he was not going to be demanding double-coverage the way that Blackmon may.Gotta think that JAX is trying to morph into a passing team quickly with MJD getting a little older. QB in 1st last season, and now 2 high-profile WR additions this season. They may actually be fun to watch next season!
 
Bradshaw's foot is good at the moment, but the Giants can't trust Bradshaw to stay healthy - they basically had to get a decent RB in there because Bradshaw's been hurt a lot. He'll always be an injury risk so they need quality RBs behind him. This may not be a bad thing, as Bradshaw's probably more effective in a time share and it may keep him healthy.

generally agree. Here is what CBS sports blurb has to say: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/520778/ahmad-bradshaw

Bradshaw gets company in Wilson: The Giants selected Virginia Tech running back David Wilson with the No. 32 overall pick in the 2012 draft, and he will be the No. 2 running back in New York behind Ahmad Bradshaw. Wilson will replace the departed Brandon Jacobs, who is now in San Francisco.

(Updated 04/26/2012)

Injury Report

Foot - Probable for start of training camp

(Updated - 3/9/12)

Fantasy Analysis

Wilson is not Jacobs at 5-foot-10, 205 pounds. In fact, he plays more like Bradshaw, but we're not concerned about his presence hurting Bradshaw much. We knew the Giants were going to add depth to their backfield, and Bradshaw will still get the majority of carries. If Bradshaw's foot history becomes a problem again then Wilson's value will rise, but we still consider Bradshaw a solid No. 2 Fantasy option in all leagues. He should be drafted by Round 3, and Wilson is a great handcuff with a late-round pick.

(Updated 04/26/2012).

My thoughts:

The G-Men love the 1-2 punch. Have since Coughlin took over. I'm looking at their postseason run in 2012 where Bradshaw was healthy and had 272 yards rushing, Jacobs 164. Respectively, 2nd and 3rd in postseason rushing. Jacobs out, Wilson in.

Last year Bradsahw had 172 carries, Jacobs 152 (obviously affected by injuries where Bradshaw missed 4-5 games). The point I see here is that NYG ran the ball about 325 times with there 1-2RB's. Could see a 200-125 split this season assuming health and Wilson earns Coughlin's trust. If AB gets around 200 carries and 30-40 catches, still see 1100-1200 total yards and a strong RB2 performance.

 
'Shutout said:
Big Loser: Blackmon. Forget the "should get targets". This team runs 50% of the time and has Blaine gabbert as the QB. I think the leading WR for the team last year had 44 catches. If you are going to get on the side and say this is good for Blackmon and Laurent Robinson, then by proxy, you are saying this means improvement for Gabbert. Do you really want to say that out loud?
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They had to run 50% of the time because they were rolling out the junior varsity WR corp from Sister Mary's School for the Athletically Challenged for the last few years.
 
'Shutout said:
Big Loser: Blackmon. Forget the "should get targets". This team runs 50% of the time and has Blaine gabbert as the QB. I think the leading WR for the team last year had 44 catches. If you are going to get on the side and say this is good for Blackmon and Laurent Robinson, then by proxy, you are saying this means improvement for Gabbert. Do you really want to say that out loud?
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The leading receiver for the Jags last year sucked, so I don't think that is a good indication. This team also no longer has Del Rio and will play from behind a fair amount. The target potential is there.
 
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