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WIS V All-Time Baseball Draft: HARRRRRRRIFIC (3 Viewers)

BOA? Can someone look that up in the harrier to english dictionary for me?
It's code for I don't know WTF I'm talking about.
Yeah, my analysis is usually useless. You know, I'm pretty sure FBG has an ignore feature now. There's no reason for you to endure my lack of insight.
 
Ty Cobb, 1911
Is this the WIS Deuchebag Draft? I mean, Bonds and Hornsby have been picked twice already and now this racist f####r.I should point out that Wil Cordero is still available.

Edit: Make that, Bonds has been picked 4 times already, Hornsby twice.

 
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Ty Cobb, 1911
Is this the WIS Deuchebag Draft? I mean, Bonds and Hornsby have been picked twice already and now this racist f####r.I should point out that Wil Cordero is still available.

Edit: Make that, Bonds has been picked 4 times already, Hornsby twice.
Wait, we get credit for "number of guys in wheelchairs beaten in the stands," right?
 
Ty Cobb, 1911
Is this the WIS Deuchebag Draft? I mean, Bonds and Hornsby have been picked twice already and now this racist f####r.I should point out that Wil Cordero is still available.

Edit: Make that, Bonds has been picked 4 times already, Hornsby twice.
Wait, we get credit for "number of guys in wheelchairs beaten in the stands," right?
Actually, it's rare, but there have been bench clearing brawls in WIS. With all the jackasses already drafted I think we have a good chance of going there.
 
Ty Cobb, 1911
Is this the WIS Deuchebag Draft? I mean, Bonds and Hornsby have been picked twice already and now this racist f####r.I should point out that Wil Cordero is still available.

Edit: Make that, Bonds has been picked 4 times already, Hornsby twice.
Wait, we get credit for "number of guys in wheelchairs beaten in the stands," right?
The 1st round would have been all Cobb's then.
 
I'll indulge Harrier here...

Career stats:

Bonds: 9140 ABs/2078 Runs/708 HRs/1853 RBIs/.300 BA/.442 OBP/.611 SLG/184 OPS+

Ruth: 8398 ABs/2175 Runs/714 HRs/2217 RBIs/.342 BA/.474 OBP/.690 SLG/207 OPS+

It's Ruth and it's not even close....

 
I'll indulge Harrier here...

Career stats:

Bonds: 9140 ABs/2078 Runs/708 HRs/1853 RBIs/.300 BA/.442 OBP/.611 SLG/184 OPS+

Ruth: 8398 ABs/2175 Runs/714 HRs/2217 RBIs/.342 BA/.474 OBP/.690 SLG/207 OPS+

It's Ruth and it's not even close....
I agree. But Ruth and Bonds are both liabilities on defense and the basepaths, at least in the relevantly extraordinary parts of their batting careers.1. Mays

2. Ruth

3. A million people that didn't do roids

1,000,003. Bonds

 
But Ruth and Bonds are both liabilities on defense and the basepaths, at least in the relevantly extraordinary parts of their batting careers.
:whoosh:
This is to say that Bonds has not always been horrible on defense and the basepaths. In the early part of his career, he was great at both. But in the part of his career (2001-2004) that would get him included in a best player ever discussion, he was a liability in both areas. Just like Ruth, in his otherwise great batting years.Mays = Complete Player = Best Ever

 
But Ruth and Bonds are both liabilities on defense and the basepaths, at least in the relevantly extraordinary parts of their batting careers.
:whoosh:
This is to say that Bonds has not always been horrible on defense and the basepaths. In the early part of his career, he was great at both. But in the part of his career (2001-2004) that would get him included in a best player ever discussion, he was a liability in both areas. Just like Ruth, in his otherwise great batting years.Mays = Complete Player = Best Ever
:headshot:
 
But Ruth and Bonds are both liabilities on defense and the basepaths, at least in the relevantly extraordinary parts of their batting careers.
:whoosh:
This is to say that Bonds has not always been horrible on defense and the basepaths. In the early part of his career, he was great at both. But in the part of his career (2001-2004) that would get him included in a best player ever discussion, he was a liability in both areas. Just like Ruth, in his otherwise great batting years.Mays = Complete Player = Best Ever
Bonds: 9140 ABs/2078 Runs/708 HRs/1853 RBIs/.300 BA/.442 OBP/.611 SLG/184 OPS+Ruth: 8398 ABs/2175 Runs/714 HRs/2217 RBIs/.342 BA/.474 OBP/.690 SLG/207 OPS+

Mays: 10881 ABs/2062 Runs/660 HRs/1903 RBIs/.302 BA/.384 OBP/.557 SLG/156 OPS +

Mays isn't even in the discussion...

In way more ABs he trails woefully in every category...

The greatest player of all time has a career OBP of .384? For shame, Harrier, for shame...

And while baserunning and defensive evidence from Ruth's time is even more anecdotal and speculative, most of what I have read indicated he wasn't a bad fielder (decent range and a very good arm) and wasn't a slug on the bases either..

There is no way baserunning and fielding vault Mays over Ruth...

 
But Ruth and Bonds are both liabilities on defense and the basepaths, at least in the relevantly extraordinary parts of their batting careers.
:whoosh:
This is to say that Bonds has not always been horrible on defense and the basepaths. In the early part of his career, he was great at both. But in the part of his career (2001-2004) that would get him included in a best player ever discussion, he was a liability in both areas. Just like Ruth, in his otherwise great batting years.Mays = Complete Player = Best Ever
I can't tell if this is schtick
 
But Ruth and Bonds are both liabilities on defense and the basepaths, at least in the relevantly extraordinary parts of their batting careers.
:whoosh:
This is to say that Bonds has not always been horrible on defense and the basepaths. In the early part of his career, he was great at both. But in the part of his career (2001-2004) that would get him included in a best player ever discussion, he was a liability in both areas. Just like Ruth, in his otherwise great batting years.Mays = Complete Player = Best Ever
I can't tell if this is schtick
well you've seen all them...who was better?
 
But Ruth and Bonds are both liabilities on defense and the basepaths, at least in the relevantly extraordinary parts of their batting careers.
:whoosh:
This is to say that Bonds has not always been horrible on defense and the basepaths. In the early part of his career, he was great at both. But in the part of his career (2001-2004) that would get him included in a best player ever discussion, he was a liability in both areas. Just like Ruth, in his otherwise great batting years.Mays = Complete Player = Best Ever
Bonds: 9140 ABs/2078 Runs/708 HRs/1853 RBIs/.300 BA/.442 OBP/.611 SLG/184 OPS+Ruth: 8398 ABs/2175 Runs/714 HRs/2217 RBIs/.342 BA/.474 OBP/.690 SLG/207 OPS+

Mays: 10881 ABs/2062 Runs/660 HRs/1903 RBIs/.302 BA/.384 OBP/.557 SLG/156 OPS +

Mays isn't even in the discussion...

In way more ABs he trails woefully in every category...

The greatest player of all time has a career OBP of .384? For shame, Harrier, for shame...

And while baserunning and defensive evidence from Ruth's time is even more anecdotal and speculative, most of what I have read indicated he wasn't a bad fielder (decent range and a very good arm) and wasn't a slug on the bases either..

There is no way baserunning and fielding vault Mays over Ruth...
Ruth was fatter than Barkley. No way he had "decent" range.Ruth = liability, no matter how you look at it. He may have been the best hitter of all time, and maybe even the guy you would want on your team. He's definitely not, however, the best all-around ballplayer of all time. That's Mays, hands down.

 
Mays isn't even in the discussion...

In way more ABs he trails woefully in every category...
Mays' career averages were dragged down because he loved the game so much, he couldn't leave it. He cared about the game, not the cigars and girls. Don't you dare try to malign him for that.
 
By the way, you measure complete player by factoring baserunning and fielding...

Ruth's completeness as a player is different, but no less important...

The dominant hitter of all time, he also posted a 2.28 career ERA in over 1200 career innings...

 
Mays isn't even in the discussion...

In way more ABs he trails woefully in every category...
Mays' career averages were dragged down because he loved the game so much, he couldn't leave it. He cared about the game, not the cigars and girls. Don't you dare try to malign him for that.
I've always considered Mays the best all-around player ever. :shrug:
 
Mays isn't even in the discussion...

In way more ABs he trails woefully in every category...
Mays' career averages were dragged down because he loved the game so much, he couldn't leave it. He cared about the game, not the cigars and girls. Don't you dare try to malign him for that.
I've always considered Mays the best all-around player ever. :shrug:
I've never forgiven him for killing Ray Chapman
 
But Ruth and Bonds are both liabilities on defense and the basepaths, at least in the relevantly extraordinary parts of their batting careers.
:whoosh:
This is to say that Bonds has not always been horrible on defense and the basepaths. In the early part of his career, he was great at both. But in the part of his career (2001-2004) that would get him included in a best player ever discussion, he was a liability in both areas. Just like Ruth, in his otherwise great batting years.Mays = Complete Player = Best Ever
I can't tell if this is schtick
well you've seen all them...who was better?
I saw John Wilkes Booth do Shakespeare in the Park. He was a better actor than Hrrrrr, except for that assassination thing and the racism and the delusions of grandeur. Well, maybe not the delusions of grandeur.
 
But Ruth and Bonds are both liabilities on defense and the basepaths, at least in the relevantly extraordinary parts of their batting careers.
:whoosh:
This is to say that Bonds has not always been horrible on defense and the basepaths. In the early part of his career, he was great at both. But in the part of his career (2001-2004) that would get him included in a best player ever discussion, he was a liability in both areas. Just like Ruth, in his otherwise great batting years.Mays = Complete Player = Best Ever
I can't tell if this is schtick
well you've seen all them...who was better?
I saw John Wilkes Booth do Shakespeare in the Park. He was a better actor than Hrrrrr, except for that assassination thing and the racism and the delusions of grandeur. Well, maybe not the delusions of grandeur.
Speaking of Booth, anyone who likes reading non-fiction should pick up MANHUNT, the story of the 12 day hunt for Booth after Lincoln's assassination...Great book, very interesting and well written...Read like a mystery...

 
But Ruth and Bonds are both liabilities on defense and the basepaths, at least in the relevantly extraordinary parts of their batting careers.
:whoosh:
This is to say that Bonds has not always been horrible on defense and the basepaths. In the early part of his career, he was great at both. But in the part of his career (2001-2004) that would get him included in a best player ever discussion, he was a liability in both areas. Just like Ruth, in his otherwise great batting years.Mays = Complete Player = Best Ever
I can't tell if this is schtick
well you've seen all them...who was better?
I saw John Wilkes Booth do Shakespeare in the Park. He was a better actor than Hrrrrr, except for that assassination thing and the racism and the delusions of grandeur. Well, maybe not the delusions of grandeur.
stop ####### with us old man, who was better?
 
I'm playing around with a spreadsheet so it may be a bit. I had an algorithm all worked out, just have to stick the data in from WIS. :nerd:

Based on my numbers, Silver King = SOD.

 

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