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With Moss Traded, Now What for NE? (1 Viewer)
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King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Got to like what Hernandez brings to the table.
David Yudkin
Footballguy
No one. I would guess the production would get cut into smaller pieces and divided among the other options but no one jumps up to a 1200-1400/15 TD guy.
gethugefast1
Footballguy
Thinking Woodhead would be a sneaky play...I know in Yahoo he's a RB/WR
comfortably numb
Footballguy
Shark move is to listen to all the crazy offers for Tate in the next 24 hours and take the best one, all the while going and getting Hernandez.
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SomeGuyNamedDavid
Footballguy
So you are saying Tate wouldn't be worth an add? What would you see his numbers looking like going forward?
towney
Footballguy
Correct answer.Might bump the running game a bit.
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bocksheesh
Footballguy
More interesting question to me is not who gets Moss' numbers (one or several players), but does this help, hurt, or not impact Tom Brady's numbers?
My sense is that Brady is great, is going to spread it around regardless, and going to be a productive, top tier QB. BUT, if Moss leaves, Brady's ceiling gets capped considerably. Those long TDs and those huge chunks of yardage that Moss could gobble up (literally with one hand) go away.
Just my two cents.
My sense is that Brady is great, is going to spread it around regardless, and going to be a productive, top tier QB. BUT, if Moss leaves, Brady's ceiling gets capped considerably. Those long TDs and those huge chunks of yardage that Moss could gobble up (literally with one hand) go away.
Just my two cents.
ponchsox
Footballguy
Tate is still unproven as an every down WR in this offense. Brady will spread the ball around to the open man. I was at the game last night and saw they lined Hernandez up as a WR on several plays. Him and Gronk will replace Moss as red zone targets.loose circuits
Footballguy
Will Taylor Price make the 45 man active roster now?
ponchsox
Footballguy
Most likely, unless they trade for another WR.
Desert_Power
Footballguy
Of course not, but wouldn't Tate likely get a much more expanded role in the offense?
UnderDawgs
Footballguy
I was wondering this as well.
bocksheesh
Footballguy
Fair point, but at the same time, you have to imagine the NE organization would not be trading away Moss IN MID SEASON if they weren't confident on some level that the player they're replacing Moss with - Tate - will be effective as an every down starter.I mean, unless Moss has done some terrible stuff behind the scenes in the locker room, you don't go trading the guy in mid season without being pretty comfortable that you have a credible replacement for him.So Tate must have shown Belechick something real. Of course, that's not to suggest Tate will come anywhere near Moss's normal production. But he will be effective.
EBF
Footballguy
Tate seems like the obvious choice. I don't think he'll ever be a dominant WR1 like Randy, but he can be a good starter in the mold of Donald Driver or Derrick Mason. Those are two players that I compared him to when he was a draft prospect. After watching some of his NFL returns, I think he might even be more explosive than those two.
CaptainHook
Footballguy
i would think hernandez. with brady just not having not nearly as good statistics and the WRs getting the ball a lot less. Circa 2000-2005 pats.
Brady Gaga
Footballguy
Am I the only one thinking that this could boost Danny Woodhead's value?
He's listed as a RB-only in my league but I still think he could be productive now. He just seems like a perfect fit for this offense - the "Welker" of the RB core.
He's listed as a RB-only in my league but I still think he could be productive now. He just seems like a perfect fit for this offense - the "Welker" of the RB core.
DropKick
Footballguy
Yep, you're the only one. Woodhead has a nice niche right now, but you're asking for trouble if you try to expand that role. Small guy - can only take so much of a beating.
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
Would be the "Welker" for any other reason then the fact he's a white boy?Can't he be the Woodhead?
Brady Gaga
Footballguy
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Sammy Traveller
Footballguy
would a moss trade bump welker's value any?
That's sort of how it seems to me too.JShark move is to listen to all the crazy offers for Tate in the next 24 hours and take the best one, all the while going and getting Hernandez.
two_dollars
Footballguy
I thought that too, and while I think Hernandez will gain value, I believe they still need someone to stretch the field to keep the middle lanes open. I think Tate is that guy, and I think he becomes a serviceable WR2.That's sort of how it seems to me too.JShark move is to listen to all the crazy offers for Tate in the next 24 hours and take the best one, all the while going and getting Hernandez.
baldbird
Footballguy
Never saw it they merged mine into here .sorry for tipping the cart.
Louisville Slugger
Footballguy
Nobody replaces his numbers. The Patriots will spread the ball around like the Saints if Moss is moved.
I am not sure if you have noticed but Moss's role hasn't been that big this year. The Patriots have changed their offense to take advantage of the their two young tight ends.
I'd imagine Tate will replace him on the outside but his numbers probably will only stay on pace with what Moss's numbers have been so far,which isn't much.
I actually think Gronkowski's role will increase quite a bit and Hernandez is a given to produce a lot more.
I'd imagine Tate will replace him on the outside but his numbers probably will only stay on pace with what Moss's numbers have been so far,which isn't much.
I actually think Gronkowski's role will increase quite a bit and Hernandez is a given to produce a lot more.
With who? Sorry but the BGE is an average talent. He needs a great passing game to allow running lanes to emerge. He's a very average RB.
Cassius
Footballguy
Average talent or not, he can, has, and will continue to be productive in this offense.
ThePittbully
Footballguy
I think Tate fills Moss' spot but I agree with Yudkin when he says that its more of a bump for all Patriots weapons than one major bump for Tate. That being said, if you own him in a return yardage leagues he's already a low end WR1 so this probably moves him to an every week starter
Jason Wood
Zoo York
I think it's Tate, and it's Tate in a big way. 
Billy Costigan Jr
Footballguy
As a Dynasty owner who drafted Collie and Tate their rookie year...I'm loving the way things are turning out right.Now if only Jonathan Stewart and Chris Wells can turn things around and I'd be set.I think it's Tate, and it's Tate in a big way.
Insein
Footballguy
The monster thread is too cumbersome at this point. This focus' just on the replacement issue.
Black&Gold
Footballguy
I think it's Tate, and it's Tate in a big way.
I can see top 20WR #s from him....now.
ponchsox
Footballguy
Tate is still a work in progress as a WR and he will NOT be a top 20 WR. People are expecting him to step into Randy's shoes and post big numbers. He is a nice pickup but I would temper expectations.I think it's Tate, and it's Tate in a big way.
Keep in mind that Tate was the best WR on a north carolina team that included Nicks until Tate suffered a knee injury. They ran a pro style offense so he might not be that much of a work in progress.Tate is still a work in progress as a WR and he will NOT be a top 20 WR. People are expecting him to step into Randy's shoes and post big numbers. He is a nice pickup but I would temper expectations.I think it's Tate, and it's Tate in a big way.
