Women's Flag Football- Youth to Olympics (1 Viewer)

[Chadstroma]

If you watch the NFL Network at all right now, then you will see a commercial for 360. The big upcoming episode is about the women. One if about flag football and they say that the girls/women are on the "forefront of a national movement".

My question is this... is it really a national movement?

In one sense, you can easily say that women's flag football is more a thing now than ever before. On the other, it doesn't really seem to be a thing to me. (yet?)

As a piece of evidence for it not being a thing. I did a couple of searches here, a forum dedicated to football, and found nothing discussing women's flag football.

Is it or not a thing now? If not, will it or will it not be a thing later? I am curious if anyone cares enough to discuss it or if there will be passionate supporters or somewhere in the middle. Any of those won't be surprising to me.

 

[Skipdog77]

My daughter's high school.is fielding their first Varsity girl's flag football team this Spring. Probably 15-20 high schools in our area will have teams, where two years ago it was zero. There is a State Championship being added by the high school governing body for our state in Spring 2024.

Her school had over 80 girls put in for the team. She'll be playing, and is looking forward to it.

I guess it all depends on your definition, but I'd say its definitely a thing. At least the start of a thing.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

If you watch the NFL Network at all right now, then you will see a commercial for 360. The big upcoming episode is about the women. One if about flag football and they say that the girls/women are on the "forefront of a national movement".

My question is this... is it really a national movement?

Of course not. But you can bet that it will be covered by ESPN relentlessly. You will care about women's sports, Chad.

 

[General Malaise]

Shouldn't we encourage more physical activity for all of us regardless of whether or not it is going to succeed on television? More sports for more people is a good thing. The End.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

If you watch the NFL Network at all right now, then you will see a commercial for 360. The big upcoming episode is about the women. One if about flag football and they say that the girls/women are on the "forefront of a national movement".

My question is this... is it really a national movement?

In one sense, you can easily say that women's flag football is more a thing now than ever before. On the other, it doesn't really seem to be a thing to me. (yet?)

As a piece of evidence for it not being a thing. I did a couple of searches here, a forum dedicated to football, and found nothing discussing women's flag football.

Is it or not a thing now? If not, will it or will it not be a thing later? I am curious if anyone cares enough to discuss it or if there will be passionate supporters or somewhere in the middle. Any of those won't be surprising to me.

It’s just an advertisement slogan.

 

[belljr]

If you watch the NFL Network at all right now, then you will see a commercial for 360. The big upcoming episode is about the women. One if about flag football and they say that the girls/women are on the "forefront of a national movement".

My question is this... is it really a national movement?

In one sense, you can easily say that women's flag football is more a thing now than ever before. On the other, it doesn't really seem to be a thing to me. (yet?)

As a piece of evidence for it not being a thing. I did a couple of searches here, a forum dedicated to football, and found nothing discussing women's flag football.

Is it or not a thing now? If not, will it or will it not be a thing later? I am curious if anyone cares enough to discuss it or if there will be passionate supporters or somewhere in the middle. Any of those won't be surprising to me.

Plot twist you shouldn't find one about men's flag football either

 

[belljr]

Around here the town league it's coed up until 6th grade maybe?

Our high school has had "powderpuff" leagues for quite sometime.

We don't have any varsity flag football sports around here

 

[belljr]

And for the record if they televise these I will likely watch it as much as I watch men's......... Never

 

[Leroy Hoard]

" If the Bible has taught us nothing else, it's that girls should stick to girls sports, such as hot oil wrestling, foxy boxing, and such and such."

 

[zoobird]

My daughter's high school.is fielding their first Varsity girl's flag football team this Spring. Probably 15-20 high schools in our area will have teams, where two years ago it was zero. There is a State Championship being added by the high school governing body for our state in Spring 2024.

Her school had over 80 girls put in for the team. She'll be playing, and is looking forward to it.

I guess it all depends on your definition, but I'd say its definitely a thing. At least the start of a thing.

Pretty much all true here as well

 

[Runkle]

Women's Flag Football- Is it a movement?​

I can confirm it moved

 

[Chadstroma]

Shouldn't we encourage more physical activity for all of us regardless of whether or not it is going to succeed on television? More sports for more people is a good thing. The End.

Sure, no argument.... but that has nothing to do with my question and not sure why that is the end.

To clarify, I am not knocking it. I am not mocking it. I am not saying it shouldn't be. I am not doing anything that I think some who may come rushing in to defend and take shot might think I am doing. I am asking questions. The thing I have found is that people with agendas, no matter what that agenda might be about, don't like questions. If you are offended by a question, then I think that might say more about you than the person asking a question(s). Even more so when the question was honest and open to whatever answers might be offered.

The commercial just makes it sound like it is a much bigger thing than I think it actually is. I would be shocked if anyone around here has watched a girls/woman flag football game, of any level, that they did not have some relationship reason to be there.

The nearest thing I have seen of any inkling of something was last summer when in one of my sons football camps there was a girl that took part. I am not aware of any programs that are girls only, in any form or level, in the area. That is not to say that there isn't any, I have not gone searching for them. It has only been recently that I have seen anything about leagues... maybe a year or two ago?

 

[General Malaise]

Shouldn't we encourage more physical activity for all of us regardless of whether or not it is going to succeed on television? More sports for more people is a good thing. The End.

Sure, no argument.... but that has nothing to do with my question and not sure why that is the end.

To clarify, I am not knocking it. I am not mocking it. I am not saying it shouldn't be. I am not doing anything that I think some who may come rushing in to defend and take shot might think I am doing. I am asking questions. The thing I have found is that people with agendas, no matter what that agenda might be about, don't like questions. If you are offended by a question, then I think that might say more about you than the person asking a question(s). Even more so when the question was honest and open to whatever answers might be offered.

The commercial just makes it sound like it is a much bigger thing than I think it actually is. I would be shocked if anyone around here has watched a girls/woman flag football game, of any level, that they did not have some relationship reason to be there.

The nearest thing I have seen of any inkling of something was last summer when in one of my sons football camps there was a girl that took part. I am not aware of any programs that are girls only, in any form or level, in the area. That is not to say that there isn't any, I have not gone searching for them. It has only been recently that I have seen anything about leagues... maybe a year or two ago?

If you're not knocking it, not mocking it nor saying it shouldn't be, then why do you care at all?

I don't watch the NFL Network unless a game is being broadcast. So I have no idea what sort of 'national movement' the NFL Network is pitching. Have you seen the ads for the XFL? They are full of ebullient platitudes about the import of the XFL and I just laugh. It's marketing. What do you expect any network to say about something it's pitching to viewers? "Hey guys, there's women's flag football now and it's not very good, but it's on between the rerun of last year's Jets/Pats game and Rich Eisen running 40s in his suit".

If the world at large is encouraging women or anybody to play flag football in any capacity at any level regardless of whether or not it's being televised, I think that's great. Market it as much or as little as you want, I don't care, more outside activity options for more people is always a good thing. A great thing. I am not going to lose sleep over how it's being packaged.

 

[Chadstroma]

Shouldn't we encourage more physical activity for all of us regardless of whether or not it is going to succeed on television? More sports for more people is a good thing. The End.

Sure, no argument.... but that has nothing to do with my question and not sure why that is the end.

To clarify, I am not knocking it. I am not mocking it. I am not saying it shouldn't be. I am not doing anything that I think some who may come rushing in to defend and take shot might think I am doing. I am asking questions. The thing I have found is that people with agendas, no matter what that agenda might be about, don't like questions. If you are offended by a question, then I think that might say more about you than the person asking a question(s). Even more so when the question was honest and open to whatever answers might be offered.

The commercial just makes it sound like it is a much bigger thing than I think it actually is. I would be shocked if anyone around here has watched a girls/woman flag football game, of any level, that they did not have some relationship reason to be there.

The nearest thing I have seen of any inkling of something was last summer when in one of my sons football camps there was a girl that took part. I am not aware of any programs that are girls only, in any form or level, in the area. That is not to say that there isn't any, I have not gone searching for them. It has only been recently that I have seen anything about leagues... maybe a year or two ago?

If you're not knocking it, not mocking it nor saying it shouldn't be, then why do you care at all?

I don't watch the NFL Network unless a game is being broadcast. So I have no idea what sort of 'national movement' the NFL Network is pitching. Have you seen the ads for the XFL? They are full of ebullient platitudes about the import of the XFL and I just laugh. It's marketing. What do you expect any network to say about something it's pitching to viewers? "Hey guys, there's women's flag football now and it's not very good, but it's on between the rerun of last year's Jets/Pats game and Rich Eisen running 40s in his suit".

If the world at large is encouraging women or anybody to play flag football in any capacity at any level regardless of whether or not it's being televised, I think that's great. Market it as much or as little as you want, I don't care, more outside activity options for more people is always a good thing. A great thing. I am not going to lose sleep over how it's being packaged.

What is wrong with asking a question unless you have an agenda to push or protect?

This isn't an add for women's flag football being televised etc. This is a 360 episode that they are highlighting 'women in football' to coincide with womens history month (I think that is what it is) and they are doing a piece on women's flag football. The thing that I found interesting was calling these girls as being on the forefront of a national movement. Now, maybe they are just being the normal marketing push on it but it was interesting to me. Was this something I have missed and it is bigger than I thought or was it marketing hyperbole.

I don't see why asking the question is threatening in any form.

 

[nirad3]

Around here the town league it's coed up until 6th grade maybe?

Our high school has had "powderpuff" leagues for quite sometime.

We don't have any varsity flag football sports around here

My son's 3rd/4th grade flag football team has a girl QB. She can fling it.

 

[Snoopy]

They are trying to make flag football an Olympic sport in 2028. The goal is to have a men's team and a women's team.

 

[fatness]

To clarify, I am not knocking it. I am not mocking it. I am not saying it shouldn't be. I am not doing anything that I think some who may come rushing in to defend and take shot might think I am doing. I am asking questions. The thing I have found is that people with agendas, no matter what that agenda might be about, don't like questions.

You're asking a question about a commercial.
Then you're saying it has to do with agendas from some people.
The question seems like an agenda.
Tide doesn't get my laundry totally clean. Tide commercials have an agenda. I don't ask why "people with agendas" believe or disbelieve the commercial. It's a damn commercial.
Unfortunately people try to use commercials to prove something they believe already.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

The commercial just makes it sound like it is a much bigger thing than I think it actually is

That’s what commercials do. How is it any different from McDonalds trying to make their food seem delicious?

 

[bcat01]

Our high school has an annual girls flag football game matching the grades against each other. My sister ended up with a concussion, stiches along her eyebrow and her retina was starting to detach.

 

[Chadstroma]

They are trying to make flag football an Olympic sport in 2028. The goal is to have a men's team and a women's team.

Who is they? NFL?

 

[Chadstroma]

Our high school has an annual girls flag football game matching the grades against each other. My sister ended up with a concussion, stiches along her eyebrow and her retina was starting to detach.

What in the world? They forgot about the flags?

 

[Chadstroma]

To clarify, I am not knocking it. I am not mocking it. I am not saying it shouldn't be. I am not doing anything that I think some who may come rushing in to defend and take shot might think I am doing. I am asking questions. The thing I have found is that people with agendas, no matter what that agenda might be about, don't like questions.

You're asking a question about a commercial.
Then you're saying it has to do with agendas from some people.
The question seems like an agenda.
Tide doesn't get my laundry totally clean. Tide commercials have an agenda. I don't ask why "people with agendas" believe or disbelieve the commercial. It's a damn commercial.
Unfortunately people try to use commercials to prove something they believe already.

For crying out loud...

IS IT OR IS IT NOT A THING?!

Why is that so freaking offensive to some of you to ask?!

 

[The Commish]

It’s just an advertisement slogan.

Wait....so there is really no "madness" in March Madness? I have to go rethink a lot of things here.

On this topic, clearly it's a thing. If it's a thread on FBG, in the FFA, it's a thing for sure.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

IS IT OR IS IT NOT A THING?!

It’s a “thing” - with commercials that perhaps use a bit of hyperbole - like most ads.

Are you finally fulfilled?

 

[Chadstroma]

It’s just an advertisement slogan.

Wait....so there is really no "madness" in March Madness? I have to go rethink a lot of things here.

On this topic, clearly it's a thing. If it's a thread on FBG, in the FFA, it's a thing for sure.

So I made it a thing but asking if it was a thing. Is this one of the chicken or the egg questions?

 

[The Commish]

It’s just an advertisement slogan.

Wait....so there is really no "madness" in March Madness? I have to go rethink a lot of things here.

On this topic, clearly it's a thing. If it's a thread on FBG, in the FFA, it's a thing for sure.

So I made it a thing but asking if it was a thing. Is this one of the chicken or the egg questions?

All I know about the topic of "girls flag football" is that it's existed for as long as I can remember and the girls leagues we had in college were HAWT!!!!

 

[General Malaise]

It’s just an advertisement slogan.

Wait....so there is really no "madness" in March Madness? I have to go rethink a lot of things here.

On this topic, clearly it's a thing. If it's a thread on FBG, in the FFA, it's a thing for sure.

So I made it a thing but asking if it was a thing. Is this one of the chicken or the egg questions?

All I know about the topic of "girls flag football" is that it's existed for as long as I can remember and the girls leagues we had in college were HAWT!!!!

Yeah, I think the peak of my entire stupid life was being an assistant coach for the HP Class of '91 girls' powder puff game my senior year. It's been downhill ever since.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Apparently it's a thing in the FFA now. That's how termite art works.

 

[acarey50]

CIF has approved it as a sanctioned sport starting next school year. There is definitely a demand for it. I've seen a lot more girls participating in the flag league I coach in (been coaching in it for 10 years now). It's not enough yet to have a separate girls division, but I don't doubt that is coming soon, I believe a couple of the other local leagues have been able to have a pseudo girls division where they may not have enough girls teams for all games to be against girls teams, but they can schedule it so that they all play each other and then a few games against the boys teams in the age group

 

[belljr]

By thing do you mean does it exist?

Yes it's a thing so is professional mini golf, and slamball, and foot soccer ping pong, and ultimate and whiffle ball leagues and Cornhole

 

[glvsav37]

IMO its a few things.
1. the NFL is trying to find new ways of people to enjoy their sport. With all the concussion issues the NFL has faced, they need to embrace a version that is somewhat safer. Also, parents are opting to pu their kids into flag recreationally so its a natural fit.
2. Women's involvement in sports is huge football was a sport that was generally closed off to them. This gives an opportunity for girls to play, but also to become fans of the regular version.

 

[NewlyRetired]

They are trying to make flag football an Olympic sport in 2028. The goal is to have a men's team and a women's team.

Who is they? NFL?

The LA Olympic committee has proposed 9 sports be added to the 2028 games they will be hosting. Flag football is one of them. Squash, lacrosse, baseball/softball and cricket were some of the others if memory serves.

 

[belljr]

They are trying to make flag football an Olympic sport in 2028. The goal is to have a men's team and a women's team.

Who is they? NFL?

The LA Olympic committee has proposed 9 sports be added to the 2028 games they will be hosting. Flag football is one of them. Squash, lacrosse, baseball/softball and cricket were some of the others if memory serves.

It was dumb softball and baseball got dropped imo

 

[NewlyRetired]

They are trying to make flag football an Olympic sport in 2028. The goal is to have a men's team and a women's team.

Who is they? NFL?

The LA Olympic committee has proposed 9 sports be added to the 2028 games they will be hosting. Flag football is one of them. Squash, lacrosse, baseball/softball and cricket were some of the others if memory serves.

It was dumb softball and baseball got dropped imo

These decisions are not easy, either to add or to drop, since they have caps they have to meet on numbers of sports and athletes at the games.

For sports to be included, they typically need one of two items to be in place.

A sport needs to have a large global following or the sport needs to make sure the best of the best are at the Olympics. Once they determined (whether correctly or incorrectly) that baseball met neither of these items, they were voted out. Softball got unfortunately caught up in that I think as if they were not associated with baseball, I think they may have survived on their own.

With baseballs WBC starting to gain some traction with the top players wanting to be involved, I think this bodes very well for the future of baseball (and as such softball) to rejoin the Olympics in 2028. Many players in the WBC mentioned the World Cup as having an effect on why they want to start playing in the WBC.

 

[The General]

Couldn't imagine watching this for one second but more power to them. They probably don't want to watch me play pickup basketball either

 

[Leroy Hoard]

By thing do you mean does it exist?

Yes it's a thing so is professional mini golf, and slamball, and foot soccer ping pong, and ultimate and whiffle ball leagues and Cornhole

I'm glad you mentioned the great sport of whiffle ball. Not sure why, but I'm still glad you mentioned it.

 

[Grace Under Pressure]

I'm glad you mentioned the great sport of whiffle ball. Not sure why, but I'm still glad you mentioned it.

Wiffle ball, IMO.

 

[belljr]

I'm glad you mentioned the great sport of whiffle ball. Not sure why, but I'm still glad you mentioned it.

Wiffle ball, IMO.

Oops

 

[massraider]

And what's the deal with Pickleball, anyway??

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I'm glad you mentioned the great sport of whiffle ball. Not sure why, but I'm still glad you mentioned it.

Wiffle ball, IMO.

Sorry, I totally whiffed on that one.

 

[Chadstroma]

Our school just started a 1st/2nd grade flag football program as a prelude to the tackle football that starts in 3rd grade. I volunteered to help out with coaching and the other day they sent out a list of the team.

From 1st grade there are 15 girls and 8 boys
From 2nd grade 15 of each.

The 1st grade class has a very small class of boys... I think actually 9. But I was super impressed with so many girls coming out to play. I have no idea if there girls wanted to or if the parents just signed them up but regardless, much higher numbers than I would have guessed if you asked me before we got the rosters.

 

[Chadstroma]

I spoke with one of the coaches on the flag football team, she is starting up the girls flag football program for the local HS. They started at the end of last school year and a number of girls showed interest. Over the summer, they only had about 14 come out. Then with school starting they had 20 something and now up into the 40's. The other two HS's in our district are starting teams this year as is a number of other schools in the general area.

For the girls on our team, there are for sure more than a couple who are there because their parents signed them up and are happier sitting together talking or playing patty cake or whatever than playing football. To be fair, there are more than a couple of boys that are the same in that they clearly have no desire to be there. That all being said, there are many girls that are just as into it as the boys.

In fact, the whole conversation with the coach starting the flag football team at the HS was because I drove by her house to drop off something and she was outside with her daughter practicing flag football.

I would say that this indeed a 'movement' and is really growing by leaps and bounds.

 

[brettdj]

High School Varsity Girls Flag football games start Wednesday in Frederick County Maryland. The Ravens sponsored it as the first county in Maryland to have it. It is growing fast. Florida has had it for many years.

 

[Chemical X]

no

 

[Gally]

They are trying to make flag football an Olympic sport in 2028. The goal is to have a men's team and a women's team.

Who is they? NFL?

The LA Olympic committee has proposed 9 sports be added to the 2028 games they will be hosting. Flag football is one of them. Squash, lacrosse, baseball/softball and cricket were some of the others if memory serves.

It was dumb softball and baseball got dropped imo

These decisions are not easy, either to add or to drop, since they have caps they have to meet on numbers of sports and athletes at the games.

For sports to be included, they typically need one of two items to be in place.

A sport needs to have a large global following or the sport needs to make sure the best of the best are at the Olympics. Once they determined (whether correctly or incorrectly) that baseball met neither of these items, they were voted out. Softball got unfortunately caught up in that I think as if they were not associated with baseball, I think they may have survived on their own.

With baseballs WBC starting to gain some traction with the top players wanting to be involved, I think this bodes very well for the future of baseball (and as such softball) to rejoin the Olympics in 2028. Many players in the WBC mentioned the World Cup as having an effect on why they want to start playing in the WBC.

I think for the Olympics it also have to be competitive to some degree. By that I mean for softball USA killed virtually everyone and the winner was a forgone conclusion. Most of the other countries best players were US players that used some ancestry to be able to play in the Olympics if they couldn't make the US team. The sport just wasn't "global" enough.

 

[NewlyRetired]

They are trying to make flag football an Olympic sport in 2028. The goal is to have a men's team and a women's team.

Who is they? NFL?

The LA Olympic committee has proposed 9 sports be added to the 2028 games they will be hosting. Flag football is one of them. Squash, lacrosse, baseball/softball and cricket were some of the others if memory serves.

It was dumb softball and baseball got dropped imo

These decisions are not easy, either to add or to drop, since they have caps they have to meet on numbers of sports and athletes at the games.

For sports to be included, they typically need one of two items to be in place.

A sport needs to have a large global following or the sport needs to make sure the best of the best are at the Olympics. Once they determined (whether correctly or incorrectly) that baseball met neither of these items, they were voted out. Softball got unfortunately caught up in that I think as if they were not associated with baseball, I think they may have survived on their own.

With baseballs WBC starting to gain some traction with the top players wanting to be involved, I think this bodes very well for the future of baseball (and as such softball) to rejoin the Olympics in 2028. Many players in the WBC mentioned the World Cup as having an effect on why they want to start playing in the WBC.

I think for the Olympics it also have to be competitive to some degree. By that I mean for softball USA killed virtually everyone and the winner was a forgone conclusion. Most of the other countries best players were US players that used some ancestry to be able to play in the Olympics if they couldn't make the US team. The sport just wasn't "global" enough.

It is going to take well past our lifetimes before softball is global imo.

Soccer is ingrained in every culture and even with that huge advantage it still took three decades before it became truly global for the women.

Softball has a much steeper hill to climb.

 

[Snoopy]

Men's and women's flag football has been formally approved for the 2028 Olympics.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Men's and women's flag football has been formally approved for the 2028 Olympics.

It's a Movement!!!

 

[Gally]

Men's and women's flag football has been formally approved for the 2028 Olympics.

It's a Movement!!!

I think it moved!

 

[Chadstroma]

Men's and women's flag football has been formally approved for the 2028 Olympics.

Is it one of those exhibition things or a full on sport?