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Women's March on Washington (1 Viewer)

Like everything else, this has just gotten each side more radicalized in their corners. Completely sucks, I want fewer abortions period. The right needs to get their #### together and quit fighting birth control and the left needs to quit moving so extreme and acting like the procedure isn't a horribly, ####ty sub optimal outcome. Everything is always about the "team". Ugh

 
Like everything else, this has just gotten each side more radicalized in their corners. Completely sucks, I want fewer abortions period. The right needs to get their #### together and quit fighting birth control and the left needs to quit moving so extreme and acting like the procedure isn't a horribly, ####ty sub optimal outcome. Everything is always about the "team". Ugh
Nobody I know who has had an abortion  treated it the way you characterize it.  It is a horrible decision to have to make.  Even more tragic - to me at least - is forcing a woman who is pregnant from rape or incest to carry that baby to term.  And though this is blessedly rare, there are times when a woman might lose her life if she carries her child to full term.  Happened to my best friend from childhood and it was awful.  I'm very pro-choice and I have no illusion that the decision to abort is anything but an awful one to have to make.  But you and I shouldn't be making those decisions for everybody.

 
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No, I'll continue to fight for those who truly don't have their own voice. Thanks.
You are USING them for your own sensibilities.

Otherwise you would be fighting to get them CITIZENSHIP. Then they would truly have a voice and all protections there-in. But you are a fake.

 
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Soonerman said:
Then they should start up a voluntary association to pay for birth control for women.  It's not a legitimate function of government to do it.
This is why I stopped being a libertarian. It's a legitimate point of view, even quite consistent and logical. But I couldn't live with it anymore.

 
Again, you're just showing your ignorance in spades.  Planned Parenthood cannot use federal money for abortion services.  Why can't you understand this?
Are you ignoring that there is a heavy push to get rid of that funding caveat?

 
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No, I like to be a realist who can only take one step at a time. But for the insult, screw off.
You arent even trying to make that step to citizenship to truly give them a voice. None of the anti-choicers are anywhere. We have decades of proof.

You are trying to circumvent for your own sensibilities and when you have that... you will be done using the fetus and children and you will let them rot.

 
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Nobody I know who has had an abortion  treated it the way you characterize it.  It is a horrible decision to have to make.  Even more tragic - to me at least - is forcing a woman who is pregnant from rape or incest to carry that baby to term.  And though this is blessedly rare, there are times when a woman might lose her life if she carries her child to full term.  Happened to my best friend from childhood and it was awful.  I'm very pro-choice and I have no illusion that thedecision to abort is anything but an awful one to have to make.  But you and I shouldn't be making those decisions for everybody.
That's why I mentioned the left's tact on this as of late. Coded words, referring to it like any other form of birth control, just any other medical procedure. Yuck. Hell, Lena Dunham (I know) openly wishes she had so she could better wear that badge of honor. Jfc.

 
Personally, I am in favor of the government paying for abortions for poor women who can't afford it. Along with counseling and birth aid, if necessary.

 
You arent even trying to make that step to citizenship to truly give them a voice. None of the anti-choicers are anywhere. We have decades of proof.

You are trying to circumvent for your own sensibilities and when you have that... you will let be done using the fetus and children you will let them rot.
You don't think pro lifers wouldn't give those kind of rights to children in utero if presented with that as an option? Really? It's a complete political non starter. Realistic goals. And I have no idea what you are trying to say in that last sentence. If you are alluding to once they are born, "eff off" fend for yourself. That's not me.

 
That's why I mentioned the left's tact on this as of late. Coded words, referring to it like any other form of birth control, just any other medical procedure. Yuck. Hell, Lena Dunham (I know) openly wishes she had so she could better wear that badge of honor. Jfc.
Yes, that was a pretty dumb thing to say, but I don't vote for her and have never seen a single thing she has been in.  I also don't believe that you support all the conservative talking points from idiots like Ted Nugent.

 
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You don't think pro lifers wouldn't give those kind of rights to children in utero if presented with that as an option? Really? It's a complete political non starter. Realistic goals. And I have no idea what you are trying to say in that last sentence. If you are alluding to once they are born, "eff off" fend for yourself. That's not me.
So fight for it.  But they flaty dont.

And much/most of the political right wouldn't go for it when they saw the true cost of what that would cause in our society.

And realistic goals is correct... the unborn are NOT recognized as people or protected as such.

So the entire fight is about your sensibilities and whether you can not pay taxes for things that are a net benefit to society but against what you like/dislike. Well nobody else gets to that for any of the other points of emphasis (jails, wars, domestic spying, medical, etc).

 
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Sorry, probably knocked this topic firmly off the rails. Just feel it's a shame this couldn't have been even more inclusive as I  and a heck of a lot of guys and gals I know dislike and oppose Trump but didn't like the thinly veiled pro choice push. Cest le vie.

GOOD NIGHT EVERYBODY!!!!!

 
My wife hit up Bobby Vans for drinks and steak dinner after the D.C. march. Nothing like protesting in style. 

 
Are you ignoring that there is a heavy push to get rid of that funding caveat?
Heavy push from where? I'm not saying it's untrue, it's not an issue I follow closely, but I haven't read that. The internet seems to think Trump will sign to defund PP tomorrow.

 
Sorry, probably knocked this topic firmly off the rails. Just feel it's a shame this couldn't have been even more inclusive as I  and a heck of a lot of guys and gals I know dislike and oppose Trump but didn't like the thinly veiled pro choice push. Cest le vie.

GOOD NIGHT EVERYBODY!!!!!
Nobody can stay upset at the greatest red headed German basketball player of all time.

 
I think GM summarized things very well but I do not believe most Pro-Lifers are because of taxes.  That's pretty stupid.
So allow for taxes to be used for the societal benefit. We do in every other instance. 

We dont get run over by the anti-death penalty people when the penalty is legal under the law in regards to how its paid for. Nor should we.

 
So allow for taxes to be used for the societal benefit. We do in every other instance. 

We dont get run over by the anti-death penalty people when the penalty is legal under the law in regards to how its paid for. Nor should we.
I think most pro-Lifers are that way because there's a person in the womb and the whole debate is when that person is recognized as a person by law.  I don't think they are fighting because of tax dollars.  Carry on.

 
Because it's extremely rare that a crowd that size gathers for any reason in southern California. The local news said the last time it happened was 2006 (pro-immigration protest) but I don't think it was quite THAT large. I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't the biggest crowd ever here.

 
I think most pro-Lifers are that way because there's a person in the womb and the whole debate is when that person is recognized as a person by law.  I don't think they are fighting because of tax dollars.  Carry on.
So allow the tax dollars to be used.  And stop the specious argument when we know PP and such serve a benefit to this country.

 
I'm supportive of the subject matter, but disappointing in the timing.

That said, today this thread was almost as active as the Trump/Hillary threads circa October 2016. While those may have flamed out famously, they were busy at least.

 
My wife still isn't home.  Told her to take the whole day off from sick kids and home drudgery and dammit she took me up on it. :lmao:

Maybe she met a nice guy in a beret named Hans and I can be set free. 

 
Because it's extremely rare that a crowd that size gathers for any reason in southern California. The local news said the last time it happened was 2006 (pro-immigration protest) but I don't think it was quite THAT large. I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't the biggest crowd ever here.
Ok but I just want to make sure you know nothing was accomplished today. You realize that, yes? 

99.9% of the marchers today despised Trump before and on November 9th. I understand the alt radical left is absolutely desperate for any little win you can get, but the crowd sizes this weekend are meaningless. 

 
Ok but I just want to make sure you know nothing was accomplished today. You realize that, yes? 

99.9% of the marchers today despised Trump before and on November 9th. I understand the alt radical left is absolutely desperate for any little win you can get, but the crowd sizes this weekend are meaningless
Apparently not to Trump and his press secretary who made emphatic efforts to lie about the crowd size at his inauguration, as well as all the phony reasons his wasn't larger, not to mention the fact that the administration shut down an entire department's social media access last night for tweeting an accurate but unflattering comparison of his inauguration and Obama's. 

 
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Ok but I just want to make sure you know nothing was accomplished today. You realize that, yes? 

99.9% of the marchers today despised Trump before and on November 9th. I understand the alt radical left is absolutely desperate for any little win you can get, but the crowd sizes this weekend are meaningless. 
If it means something to the people that marched, then by definition, it isn't meaningless .

 
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Well, actually....It is a responsibility of the government to fund Planned Parenthood.  Has been since 1970. Care to guess which president put that into law?  Might surprise you since you literally know nothing about it.
Really?   Richard Nixon is your go to for the legitimate uses of government power?

 
My wife still isn't home.  Told her to take the whole day off from sick kids and home drudgery and dammit she took me up on it. :lmao:

Maybe she met a nice guy in a beret named Hans and I can be set free. 
Hans isn't in it to take your quintet of kids. 

 
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Ok but I just want to make sure you know nothing was accomplished today. You realize that, yes? 

99.9% of the marchers today despised Trump before and on November 9th. I understand the alt radical left is absolutely desperate for any little win you can get, but the crowd sizes this weekend are meaningless
Baghdad Sean begs to differ.

 
My wife still isn't home.  Told her to take the whole day off from sick kids and home drudgery and dammit she took me up on it. :lmao:

Maybe she met a nice guy in a beret named Hans and I can be set free. 
:shrug:

Could you blame her? Worst case scenario you call Cordell & Cordell , a partner men can count on .

 
Trump has spoken very highly of the work Planned Parenthood has done helping women, much to his detriment I might add.
Quite a detriment.  He lost the popular vote by almost 3 million votes.

Trump has also spoken that women who have abortions deserve some form of punishment, to no detriment I might add.

 

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