Women's March on Washington (2 Viewers)

[Higgs]

Higgs, you keep repeating this, and while it has some merit, those generalizations did not arise out of thin air. 

The problem is that during the campaign Donald Trump would say something bigoted or racist or Nazi like, and his supporters would either ignore it, try to minimize it, or outright defend it. That is what caused the reaction you complain about. 

Yeah, we keep going round and round on this.  I could just as easily put together a mental construct showing Lefties to be violent, racist, intolerant, lazy, ugly... you get the point.  Both sides can easily demonize the other and present a strong case for highlighting the worst qualities they see in the other.  It's kind of funny to me that you keep dispelling this equivalency by saying, "Yeh, but it's really true about your side".

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Wait- you're responding to my post by pointing out that I only criticize one side?   

But daddy I wasn't the only one! She did it too! 

I'm talking about everyone in general.  As usual Tim, it's not all about YOU.  Plenty of lefties generalize with "stupid" and "racist".  Now lefties are bent out of shape about ugly women comments.  Why doesn't everyone stop the generalizations?

And for someone that cries about wanting to talk about issues, you sure do you're fair share of trolling.  Like you're doing now for some strange reason.  But to answer your question, yes you do call out posters that are anti-left BS way more than you call out the lefties here.

 

[Jobber]

Saltiest thread on the board. Wow.

 

[jonessed]

Higgs, you keep repeating this, and while it has some merit, those generalizations did not arise out of thin air. 

The problem is that during the campaign Donald Trump would say something bigoted or racist or Nazi like, and his supporters would either ignore it, try to minimize it, or outright defend it. That is what caused the reaction you complain about. 

This is so you  .  Arguing why some stereotyping is based on merit.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Ok. The topic is "Lying About Crowd Sizes".

No, the topic before the inauguration.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

It's great that so many people in apathy comas finally wake up.  Trump wants to give the government back to the people, and it is very gratifying to see everyone engaged from day one. 

 

[jabarony]

Al Bundy would have had a field day yesterday.







 

 



NOT FUNNY!

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

 And the American Liberals are silent on it.  That's why nobody with a brain takes today's March seriously.

Extremely helpful.

 

[avoiding injuries]

NOT FUNNY!

Hateful! Misogynistic!

 

[Rohn Jambo]

I have to say I like Trump's new drapes more:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4145428/Donald-Trump-changes-curtains-Oval-Office.html

 

[avoiding injuries]

I have to say I like Trump's new drapes more:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4145428/Donald-Trump-changes-curtains-Oval-Office.html

To prove I'm not partisan, I like the drapes Obama had a lot better than these. 

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

I'm talking about everyone in general.  As usual Tim, it's not all about YOU.  Plenty of lefties generalize with "stupid" and "racist".  Now lefties are bent out of shape about ugly women comments.  Why doesn't everyone stop the generalizations?

And for someone that cries about wanting to talk about issues, you sure do you're fair share of trolling.  Like you're doing now for some strange reason.  But to answer your question, yes you do call out posters that are anti-left BS way more than you call out the lefties here.

Jesus, you guys have complained more in 12 months than "libtards" have since I've been on this board (which is more than 15 years).  One reason why we think you guys are stupid and racist and misogynist is that you say stupid and racist and misogynist things.  You know like talking about how ugly the women protesting are.  Jesus, at least own it.  

 

[urbanhack]

Hate to go here, because your point is valid, but now you are getting a small taste of what Trump supporters have been experiencing in here for 18 months - insulting generalizations, stereotypes... bigots, nazis, white supremacists, stupid, ignorant, uneducated, old white men full of hate.  Just saying.

Gender isn't a choice.  Being a trump supporter is.  

 

[BeaverCleaver]

Gender isn't a choice.  Being a trump supporter is.  

That doesn't excuse all the insults. 

 

[BeaverCleaver]

Jesus, you guys have complained more in 12 months than "libtards" have since I've been on this board (which is more than 15 years).  One reason why we think you guys are stupid and racist and misogynist is that you say stupid and racist and misogynist things.  You know like talking about how ugly the women protesting are.  Jesus, at least own it.  

One poster made the comments about the women. That doesn't mean all Trump supporters think that way.

 

[BowieMercs]

Gender isn't   didn't used to be a choice.  Being a trump supporter is.  

Fixed. 

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

One poster made the comments about the women. That doesn't mean all Trump supporters think that way.

You know.  We all have memories.  Every post that any of us has made is understood within the context or our previous posting history.  I admit that I find a lot of you guys odious.  There's a reason.  You can consider it stereotyping.  I consider it something you've earned.

You are, of course, free to feel the same about me.  I promise I won't complain. 

 

[HellToupee]

Gender isn't a choice. 

This is hate talk

 

[BeaverCleaver]

You know.  We all have memories.  Every post that any of us has made is understood within the context or our previous posting history.  I admit that I find a lot of you guys odious.  There's a reason.  You can consider it stereotyping.  I consider it something you've earned.

You are, of course, free to feel the same about me.  I promise I won't complain. 

Yep...you guys like to make nasty blanket statements about all of us that aren't true. Hope that makes you feel better about yourselves.

 

[BustedKnuckles]

I don't see anything. I'm better off than ever before. Things here are going great other than the way we treat criminals like humans. That needs to stop. We also need to ramp up the execution of losers. Other than that, we are kicking ###.

can we start with Madonna?

 

[Rohn Jambo]

To prove I'm not partisan, I like the drapes Obama had a lot better than these. 

Here are pictures of the drapes used by prior Presidents: Link

 

[HellToupee]

Yep...you guys like to make nasty blanket statements about all of us that aren't true. Hope that makes you feel better about yourselves.

They're just bitter clingers 

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Jesus, you guys have complained more in 12 months than "libtards" have since I've been on this board (which is more than 15 years).  One reason why we think you guys are stupid and racist and misogynist is that you say stupid and racist and misogynist things.  You know like talking about how ugly the women protesting are.  Jesus, at least own it.  

 

[Reg Lllama of Brixton]

Here are pictures of the drapes used by prior Presidents: Link

You forgot the Muslim prayer curtain

 

[The Future Champs]

One poster made the comments about the women. That doesn't mean all Trump supporters think that way.

Sure, but notice that none of you will criticize those comments.   Someone on the right says something stupid, or racist, or flat out lies, and all of you shut up.   

 

[Slapdash]

Sure, but notice that none of you will criticize those comments.   Someone on the right says something stupid, or racist, or flat out lies, and all of you shut up.   

And "like".  Also, much more than one

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Sure, but notice that none of you will criticize those comments.   Someone on the right says something stupid, or racist, or flat out lies, and all of you shut up.   

Fine, making fun of fat women is stupid.  

Where are your posts criticizing all the stupid and racist generalizations?

 

[BeaverCleaver]

Sure, but notice that none of you will criticize those comments.   Someone on the right says something stupid, or racist, or flat out lies, and all of you shut up.   

It goes both ways and the blanket insulting statements continually made here are ridiculous.

 

[timschochet]

Back to the topic of the thread. 

Its not going to be enough for the people who showed up yesterday to have record crowds. They can't be complacent now and say "we did our part". If they want to make a difference they need to stay energized. 

Also the opposition to Trump, IMO, shouldn't waste time opposing either little meaningless stuff or stuff that any Republican President would do (such as cutting corporate taxes for example). They should focus on the stuff that makes Trump different from previous Presidents and a threat to our freedoms. For example: 

This wholesale and unwarranted attack on the mainstream media. 

Straight out falsehoods (no matter what the subject) and referring to them as "alternative facts". 

Threatening to quit NATO. 

Starting trade wars with China and Mexico. 

Cozying up to Putin. 

Committing war crimes. 

Etc. Etc. Concentrate on the weird stuff, the stuff that's truly out of the ordinary, and we can make the opposition to Trump bipartisan instead of just liberals as his supporters are determined to portray. 

 

[fatness]

Peaceful protests are a hallmark of our democracy. Even if I don't always agree I respect the right of the people to express their views. 

Well said Mr. President. If we're going to criticize the man for his stupid and dangerous remarks, we ought to give him credit when he says something right. 

Yeah, presidents need to say this, period. It matters when the top guy says it. If not, and it was left to the public, that freedom of assembly thing in the Constitution wouldn't be happening.

 

[fatness]

No, the topic before the inauguration.

"Womens March on Washington". HTH

 

[Rick James]

The media deserves criticism. Spencer was dumb to lie about what he did, but that doesn't wipe away all of the BS the mainstream media did this election cycle. 

 

[timschochet]

Yeah, presidents need to say this, period. It matters when the top guy says it. If not, and it was left to the public, that freedom of assembly thing in the Constitution wouldn't be happening.

I actually got that quote wrong. He didn't use the word "respect"; he used the word "recognize". It's still a good statement but I wish he had used the word "respect". 

 

[timschochet]

The media deserves criticism. Spencer was dumb to lie about what he did, but that doesn't wipe away all of the BS the mainstream media did this election cycle. 

The only criticism they deserve is for letting Trump get away with too many lies. They tried to be too evenhanded and this help lead to Trump's victory. 

 

[Rohn Jambo]

You forgot the Muslim prayer curtain

Huh? Muslims use prayer rugs.  That curtain fabric was chosen by Jackie Kennedy and has hung in the East Room since 1965. Pic

 

[HellToupee]

The only criticism they deserve is for letting Trump get away with too many lies. They tried to be too evenhanded and this help lead to Trump's victory. 

Crazy talk

 

[Reg Lllama of Brixton]

Huh? Muslims use prayer rugs.  That curtain fabric was chosen by Jackie Kennedy and has hung in the East Room since 1965.

Can't believe you're supporting Barack HUSSEIN Obama.

 

[knowledge dropper]

Yesterday reminds me of some John Hughes movie.  The goths, sexually confused, nerds, ugly chicks, tubbies, drama students, exchange students, etc all got together to whine about the good looking jocks, cheerleaders and popular kids winning all the time.  

Did Oingo Boingo play?

 

[Parrothead]

some of you guys (on both sides) are going to give yourselves heart attacks over this-  its Championship game Sunday!    step away from the computer, grab a beer and sit down and relax..  enjoy the games..   the sun will rise tomorrow.. we will survive..  jesus 

 

[The Football Freak]

Hate to go here, because your point is valid, but now you are getting a small taste of what Trump supporters have been experiencing in here for 18 months - insulting generalizations, stereotypes... bigots, nazis, white supremacists, stupid, ignorant, uneducated, old white men full of hate.  Just saying.

I have also spoken out against that, because I agree that blanket stereotypes and denigrating an entire group because of differing viewpoints is just wrong. When my wife and daughter generalize in that way, I remind them of the loving and nice Trump supporters they have in their life, and to not paint with such a broad and negative brush. The other side is not evil, and tearing others down to build yourself up is no way to go about life. You will also find it's hard to change a mind when you throw around insults. 

That being said, people's wives and daughters from here on this very message board are being described as heifers, ugly and people are saying they need a "good dicking." If any one of you said that to me IRL, you'd learn a quick lesson to not mistake my kindness for weakness. I would like the classless and disrespectful comments about our loved ones to stop. That's just going too far, and even a quiet lurker like me won't just sit by and ignore it. I know you are not one of those people saying such things. 

Your point is fair, but is wholly separate from mine.  Disagreement with the protesters is fine, disagreement with their points is fine, but let's stop with the the classless and crude comments towards women. I was not raised to meekly let such things go, and I'm not about to start now. I think people can disagree without going that far, don't you? 

 

[BowieMercs]

some of you guys (on both sides) are going to give yourselves heart attacks over this-  its Championship game Sunday!    step away from the computer, grab a beer and sit down and relax..  enjoy the games..   the sun will rise tomorrow.. we will survive..  jesus 

I blame the NFL &  the west coast for the games starting so late.

 

[Rohn Jambo]

Can't believe you're supporting Barack HUSSEIN Obama.

When it comes to interior decorating, I support the party of good taste.

 

[Higgs]

I have also spoken out against that, because I agree that blanket stereotypes and denigrating an entire group because of differing viewpoints is just wrong. When my wife and daughter generalize in that way, I remind them of the loving and nice Trump supporters they have in their life, and to not paint with such a broad and negative brush. The other side is not evil, and tearing others down to build yourself up is no way to go about life. You will also find it's hard to change a mind when you throw around insults. 

That being said, people's wives and daughters from here on this very message board are being described as heifers, ugly and people are saying they need a "good dicking." If any one of you said that to me IRL, you'd learn a quick lesson to not mistake my kindness for weakness. I would like the classless and disrespectful comments about our loved ones to stop. That's just going too far, and even a quiet lurker like me won't just sit by and ignore it. I know you are not one of those people saying such things. 

Your point is fair, but is wholly separate from mine.  Disagreement with the protesters is fine, disagreement with their points is fine, but let's stop with the the classless and crude comments towards women. I was not raised to meekly let such things go, and I'm not about to start now. I think people can disagree without going that far, don't you? 

You'll never hear me disagree with a call for people to treat each other better in here. 

 

[msommer]

Yesterday reminds me of some John Hughes movie.  The goths, sexually confused, nerds, ugly chicks, tubbies, drama students, exchange students, etc all got together to whine about the good looking jocks, cheerleaders and popular kids winning all the time.  

Did Oingo Boingo play?

Still no knowledge dropped. Sad!

 

[Bruce Dickinson]

Robert Reich's favorite signs from the rallies yesterday:

-- We Shall Overcomb.-- I Have a Vagenda-- Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Czar/ Putin Made You == 
-- I Wish My Uterus Shot Bullets So the Government Wouldn’t Regulate It
-- Resistance is Fertile
-- There Will Be Hell Toupée
-- I (heart) Journalists.
-- Viva la Vulva
-- There Is So Much Wrong It Cannot Fit on This Sign
-- Melania, Blink Twice if You Need Help
-- Super Callous Fragile Ego, Trump You Are Atrocious
-- Orange Is the New Fascism
-- ######s Brought You Into the World. ######s Will Vote You Out.
-- No Country for Dirty Old Men
-- Too Worried to be Funny
-- Donald You Ignorant Slut
-- Impeach Trump, Convert Pence
-- Sorry World, We’ll Fix This

Any others folks saw either from attendance or reporting?  Liked "So Bad, Even Introverts Are Here".

 

[msommer]

- There Will Be Hell Toupée

Ain't that the truth.

 

[Rick James]

"We Shall Overcomb" is tremendous 

 

[krista4]

Any others folks saw either from attendance or reporting?  Liked "So Bad, Even Introverts Are Here".

I really liked that one, too.

For some reason - perhaps it was the hot guy carrying the sign - I loved one that said, "Not Usually a Sign Guy, but Geez."  

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Robert Reich's favorite signs from the rallies yesterday:

-- We Shall Overcomb.-- I Have a Vagenda-- Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Czar/ Putin Made You == 
-- I Wish My Uterus Shot Bullets So the Government Wouldn’t Regulate It
-- Resistance is Fertile
-- There Will Be Hell Toupée
-- I (heart) Journalists.
-- Viva la Vulva
-- There Is So Much Wrong It Cannot Fit on This Sign
-- Melania, Blink Twice if You Need Help
-- Super Callous Fragile Ego, Trump You Are Atrocious
-- Orange Is the New Fascism
-- ######s Brought You Into the World. ######s Will Vote You Out.
-- No Country for Dirty Old Men
-- Too Worried to be Funny
-- Donald You Ignorant Slut
-- Impeach Trump, Convert Pence
-- Sorry World, We’ll Fix This

Any others folks saw either from attendance or reporting?  Liked "So Bad, Even Introverts Are Here".

One I really liked:

Boys Will Be Boys Decent Human Beings.  Displayed by a boy of about 9 or 10 at the march.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

I really liked that one, too.

For some reason - perhaps it was the hot guy carrying the sign - I loved one that said, "Not Usually a Sign Guy, but Geez."  

That was the inauguration, but it instantly made me jealous for not thinking of it (and for not being able to grow that luxurious beard).