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Women's March on Washington (1 Viewer)

If you can't see this is so wrong I'm done with you . Done. Don't quote me or pm me or any interaction. Done . No rebuttals on why you think it acceptable. This is nonnegotiable for me . Understand this . 
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Sorry I have to respond because I don't think it is acceptable. What the HellToupee is wrong with you?

Just pointing out the attacks on those who had wifes, sisters, daughters in the march who were called names in this thread, which should have been considered unacceptable too, but most on your side has no issue with it.

 
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Sorry I have to respond because I don't think it is acceptable. What the HellToupee is wrong with you?

Just pointing out the attacks on those who had wifes, sisters, daughters in the march who were called names in this thread, which should have been considered unacceptable too, but most on your side has no issue with it.
Any direct name calling type of stuff towards kids/wives is totally wrong . I'm sorry I perceived you as defending @the moops

 
Just shut up for once...though you never will.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:  

I'm so deep in your kitchen I should be paying you rent.

moops was a jackass for criticizing a user's kid.  Higgs (and everyone else here who talked #### about the participants in the Marches) was a jackass for criticizing many, many family members of users here.  I think you're smart enough to understand that. 

 
Hold on a ####### second.....Where the hell were all you Social Justice Warriors on Saturday when the wives, daughters, sisters and other loved ones who marched when their family members were called "losers" and "fat" and "ugly" and "crazy" and "in need of a good dicking"???  At least Henry Ford and I had the decency to admonish one of our liberal brethren?  Where was your decency this weekend?  Typical SJWs.  Sad!

 
Hold on a ####### second.....Where the hell were all you Social Justice Warriors on Saturday when the wives, daughters, sisters and other loved ones who marched when their family members were called "losers" and "fat" and "ugly" and "crazy" and "in need of a good dicking"???  At least Henry Ford and I had the decency to admonish one of our liberal brethren?  Where was your decency this weekend?  Typical SJWs.  Sad!
Weird. I'd trust you and Henry with my kids, if I had them. I never chimed in nor said anything of the sort. I wouldn't trust the moops with mine. I think he threatened me once, in a weird way. 

I'm a weird guy, but when I hang out here, I hang out with a general sense of love for everyone. I'm not sure everyone does. I'm not sure how this thread has gone; I just remember the moops threatening me once. 

And I don't really feel threatened. Just a weird thing, that's all.  

 
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Hold on a ####### second.....Where the hell were all you Social Justice Warriors on Saturday when the wives, daughters, sisters and other loved ones who marched when their family members were called "losers" and "fat" and "ugly" and "crazy" and "in need of a good dicking"???  At least Henry Ford and I had the decency to admonish one of our liberal brethren?  Where was your decency this weekend?  Typical SJWs.  Sad!
You can't honestly expect the majority of the right wing of the internet to display any consistent respect for women whatsoever.

 
Hold on a ####### second.....Where the hell were all you Social Justice Warriors on Saturday when the wives, daughters, sisters and other loved ones who marched when their family members were called "losers" and "fat" and "ugly" and "crazy" and "in need of a good dicking"???  At least Henry Ford and I had the decency to admonish one of our liberal brethren?  Where was your decency this weekend?  Typical SJWs.  Sad!
I never called them ugly, fat or crazy and that is not acceptable eitherr.  However, I did say it was basically a rally for "sore losers" which, IMO, is something completely different than calling someone a just straight up "loser".

 
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:  

I'm so deep in your kitchen I should be paying you rent.

moops was a jackass for criticizing a user's kid.  Higgs (and everyone else here who talked #### about the participants in the Marches) was a jackass for criticizing many, many family members of users here.  I think you're smart enough to understand that. 
dont be so careless with the word ''everyone''

 
I never called them ugly, fat or crazy and that is not acceptable eitherr.  However, I did say it was basically a rally for "sore losers" which, IMO, is something completely different than calling someone a just straight up "loser".
It is true, you stayed above the board with regards to name calling.  It is also true that you did nothing to try and dissuade several others here from hitting below the belt.

 
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It looks like it's time to shut this one down. 
I hope that's not the case since this was the largest protest. Ever. And, it spanned across 50+ countries.

As for what's next after the march ...

IMO, it's still in the strategy planning phase and political leaders & activists are trying to figure out what's next. I think the next step is to target the 2018 elections. Build a grass roots campaign around select candidates with the hope of flipping either the house or senate (senate more opportunity). In addition, work in conjunction of solidifying a campaign strategy for 2020, that is inclusive of those who were left out in 2016. We shouldn't pick the safe candidate because we despise Trump so badly. History goes against the safe candidate. John Kerry - Never Bush! Mitt Romney - Never Obama! Pick someone who will energize - not sure if Bernie is right or not, but someone that brings out the passion, the outrage. Hillary just didn't and couldn't do that.

Lastly, stop focusing on things such as bathroom wars (not saying to abandon or not support), or other things that could push a centrist to the right. Trump will be viewed as successful, even though he is a steaming pile of poo that is only successful because of his lies.

Personally, I will increase my financial donations to organizations such as Planned Parenthood, NPR, HRC etc and will send money to those 2018 candidates who need help.

George Takei  ‏@GeorgeTakei

The thing about "snowflakes" is this: They are beautiful and unique, but in large numbers become an unstoppable avalanche that will bury you

 
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Hold on a ####### second.....Where the hell were all you Social Justice Warriors on Saturday when the wives, daughters, sisters and other loved ones who marched when their family members were called "losers" and "fat" and "ugly" and "crazy" and "in need of a good dicking"???  At least Henry Ford and I had the decency to admonish one of our liberal brethren?  Where was your decency this weekend?  Typical SJWs.  Sad!
I was right here GM.  https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/753666-womens-march-on-washington/?do=findComment&comment=19807901

I never made any disparaging comments about anyone's family member on here.  Not one. 

 
Hold on a ####### second.....Where the hell were all you Social Justice Warriors on Saturday when the wives, daughters, sisters and other loved ones who marched when their family members were called "losers" and "fat" and "ugly" and "crazy" and "in need of a good dicking"???  At least Henry Ford and I had the decency to admonish one of our liberal brethren?  Where was your decency this weekend?  Typical SJWs.  Sad!
Nobody should be calling out a specific individual's kids.  I don't care much for the general name-calling either, but it's not the same.

If people have lost the ability to see the difference in here it might be time to close this down.

 
Nobody should be calling out a specific individual's kids.  I don't care much for the general name-calling either, but it's not the same.

If people have lost the ability to see the difference in here it might be time to close this down.
A push from the trolls to get this closed down,  who are fearful of the concept of 3.5 million people marching against their leader.

It's a similar tactic of the president and the alt-right. Troll troll troll and get your way.

Again, I will repost my post in an attempt for all of us to get this discussion back on track...

I hope that's not the case since this was the largest protest. Ever. And, it spanned across 50+ countries.

As for what's next after the march ...

IMO, it's still in the strategy planning phase and political leaders & activists are trying to figure out what's next. I think the next step is to target the 2018 elections. Build a grass roots campaign around select candidates with the hope of flipping either the house or senate (senate more opportunity). In addition, work in conjunction of solidifying a campaign strategy for 2020, that is inclusive of those who were left out in 2016. We shouldn't pick the safe candidate because we despise Trump so badly. History goes against the safe candidate. John Kerry - Never Bush! Mitt Romney - Never Obama! Pick someone who will energize - not sure if Bernie is right or not, but someone that brings out the passion, the outrage. Hillary just didn't and couldn't do that.

Lastly, stop focusing on things such as bathroom wars (not saying to abandon or not support), or other things that could push a centrist to the right. Trump will be viewed as successful, even though he is a steaming pile of poo that is only successful because of his lies.

Personally, I will increase my financial donations to organizations such as Planned Parenthood, NPR, HRC etc and will send money to those 2018 candidates who need help.

George Takei  ‏@GeorgeTakei

The thing about "snowflakes" is this: They are beautiful and unique, but in large numbers become an unstoppable avalanche that will bury you

 
dont be so careless with the word ''everyone''
In that context, "everyone" meant every person within the subset of people who talked #### about people who participated in the Marches.  

Had I been accusing everyone here about talking #### about people who participated in the Marches, I would have put a comma after the word "here".  Then the clause about talking #### would have applied to the larger group, instead of defining a smaller group.

I agree with you it's important to not be careless about use of the word "everyone".  I think that warning applies to everyone, not just me.

 
I was right here GM.  https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/753666-womens-march-on-washington/?do=findComment&comment=19807901

I never made any disparaging comments about anyone's family member on here.  Not one. 
Here you say nobody with a brain took the march seriously. My mother, who is over 70, took it seriously enough to wake up at 6:30 AM and get in a bus downtown to participate even though the march didn't start until 1 PM.  My aunt drove in from out of town to meet her and did the same.  My father-in-law was there as well. Three of my cousins participated in their hometown marches. I can promise you that all of them took it very seriously, and the rest of my family did as well. I'm sure other posters here have similar stories about their family members.

 
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Here you say nobody with a brain took the march seriously. My mother, who is over 70, took it seriously enough to wake up at 6:30 AM and get in a bus downtown to participate even though the march didn't start until 1 PM.  My aunt drove in from out of town to meet her and did the same.  My father-in-law was there as well. Three of my cousins participated in their hometown marches. I can promise you that all of them took it very seriously, and the rest of my family did as well. I'm sure other posters here have similar stories about their family members.
:lmao:  You took me saying, "no one with a brain takes this march seriously" as an attack on your family?

 
In her 2015 memoir, "My Life on the Road," Gloria Steinem writes about the wisdom she gleaned from Florynce Kennedy, the great civil rights activist and lawyer, on dealing with detractors.

The two women lectured on college campuses together in the 1970s, and the crowds invariably included a heckler or 20. Kennedy's advice?

"Just pause, let the audience absorb the hostility, then say, 'I didn't pay him to say that.'"

Steinem worried less about hostile responses after that. "Ultimately," she writes, "they educate an audience."

Which brings us to last Saturday's Women's Marches, specifically the response to them.

It would be lovely, of course, if the peaceful nature (zero arrests reported in Washington, D.C., New York or Chicago) coupled with the sheer size (an estimated 3 million protesters around the U.S.) would have won over critics who viewed the worldwide marches as divisive, hostile or simply pointless.

But critics remain.

Who's in the mood for a recap?

Park Ridge-Niles school board member Dathan Paterno stepped down Monday after catching heat for tweeting, "Most of these ###### screechers didn't vote, but they mean business. Riiiiiiiight. What a farce."

Earlier, he tweeted, "Alas, the 300 million pound Women March provides a strong argument for doing away with women's suffrage."

In Nebraska, Republican state Sen. Bill Kintner is in hot water for retweeting a suggestion that marchers weren't hot enough to be sexually assaulted. (Same Sen. Kintner who used a state computer to have cybersex, in case you're keeping track.)

In Indiana, Republican Sen. Jack Sandlin found himself trying to explain how a meme that reads, "In one day, Trump got more fat women out walking, than Michelle Obama did in 8 years" showed up on his Facebook page.

And Piers Morgan says he's planning a men's march to protest "global emasculation of my gender by rabid feminists."

Whee!

A post is making the rounds on social media that questions why women feel the need to protest in America. The origins aren't clear; I've seen it credited to an author named Christy; I've also seen it credited to someone named Liz. Regardless, women who didn't participate in the marches are sharing it on Facebook in solidarity.

"I can make my own choices," the post reads. "I can speak and be heard. I can VOTE. I can work if I want. I control my body. I can defend myself. I can defend my family. There is nothing stopping me to do anything in this world but MYSELF. I do not blame my circumstances or problems on anything other than my own choices or even that sometimes in life, we don't always get what we want. I take responsibility for myself."

That is good news. This should be our goal for all women and men. This is, I would argue, the goal of the majority of those 3 million women and men who marched.

We're not there yet.

We're not yet living in a time or a place where all women feel as protected and empowered as the author of that Facebook post. Sexual assault statistics prove that. Domestic violence statistics prove that. Wage gap statistics prove that. The fact that this country is 51 percent women, and the Congress elected to represent this country is 19 percent women, proves that.

So women and men marched — for hundreds of different reasons, admittedly. But at the core, they marched to make their voices heard.

And their voices have been met with name-calling, taunts and anger — anger that women would take to the streets to exercise their constitutional rights.

And that anger, as Steinem and Kennedy learned, can educate.

Kennedy was used to skeptics who didn't see the point of all her women's lib talk. Women have it fine, they'd tell her in the '60s and '70s. She had an answer at the ready, and I think it applies here too.

"Just because you're not feeling sick," she would say, "doesn't mean you should close the hospitals."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/stevens/ct-upside-of-womens-march-haters-balancing-0124-20170124-column.html

 
Save the date. On the heels of what was by many accounts a resoundingly-successful, 250,000-person strong protest march/rally in Chicago (and elsewhere), another massive anti-Trump demonstration is rapidly building a wave of support.

The march is being planned for April 15, the Saturday ahead of Tax Day, at Millennium Park. And the point, organizers note, is to pressure President Donald Trump to release his tax returns.

"Like many people, I'm pretty alarmed at Donald Trump being commander-in-chief, particularly enriching his family with taxpayer and foreign money," Taran Brar, one of the Chicago protest's co-organizers, told Chicagoist. "He's bucking a long tradition where the public can see if you have any conflicts of interest. I’m guessing where there’s smoke there’s fire."

Like the Women's March that inspired it, the Chicago Tax Protest is just one of a larger network that are now being scheduled in cities across the country. Other Trump Tax Marches are now in the works for Los Angeles, Denver, Washington D.C., and beyond. Organizers for the Chicago edition are working with counterparts from other cities to best plan the action.

The response for the Chicago protest has already been immense. The Chicago Facebook event page was created on Sunday night; as of Tuesday night, 1,000 people had RSVP'ed with another nearly 4,000 interested.

The Tax Protest has "zero barrier of entry," Brar, a 30-year-old documentary filmmaker, is quick to underscore. The means that although Trump's dubious financial handlings form the centerpiece of the day's action, all are welcome and encouraged to demonstrate other threats posed by the Trump administration, he said.

"We want to see President Trump's tax returns so we can judge conflicts of interest, but it's an open group... Some people say the message gets muddled, but this Tax Day Protest is a very clear message: show us your taxes, Mr. President."

Although the event is in the very early stages, planners are already working hard to make sure the event can accommodate what could be—at least judging from initial interest—another major response." We're still working on permitting, but we reached out to legal teams" about moving forward with the city, Brar said.
No one will probably turn up, because as Kellyanne Conway points out, Americans don't care about his returns.

 
:lmao:  You took me saying, "no one with a brain takes this march seriously" as an attack on your family?
If your wife does X, and I say "everyone who does X is a crazy person," I just called your wife a crazy person.  I don't see how that's confusing to you, but whatever. I don't feel like fighting about it.

Here's something I would like to discuss a little more- I believe the reason you said that was because you saw them as hypocrites for not explicitly protesting treatment of women by fundamentalist Muslims.  Correct?  I thought that was a silly argument to begin with and I explained why. And now Trump has passed an executive order designed to turn away those victims of mistreatment at our borders, forcing them back into the arms of their oppressors (as he said he would during his candidacy).  The marchers were protesting Trump and his policies, and thus by extension protesting on behalf of those victims.

Meanwhile, after expressing such "concern" for those Muslim women, you have continued to praise Trump and his actions as president and to my knowledge have not said one word about the refugee executive order. 

Just thought I'd point that out.

 
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If your wife does X, and I say "everyone who does X is a crazy person," I just called your wife a crazy person.  I don't see how that's confusing to you, but whatever. I don't feel like fighting about it.

Here's something I would like to discuss a little more- I believe the reason you said that was because you saw them as hypocrites for not explicitly protesting treatment of women by fundamentalist Muslims.  Correct?  I thought that was a silly argument to begin with and I explained why. And now Trump has passed an executive order designed to turn away those victims of mistreatment at our borders, forcing them back into the arms of their oppressors (as he said he would during his candidacy).  The marchers were protesting Trump and his policies, and thus by extension protesting on behalf of those victims.

Meanwhile, after expressing such "concern" for those Muslim women, you have continued to praise Trump and his actions as president and to my knowledge have not said one word about the refugee executive order. 

Just thought I'd point that out.
There's a huge difference in saying everyone that wears a red shirt is a jerk and saying your son is a jerk for wearing a red shirt.  You know this. 

 
Well geeez. Sorry folks. And sorry Higgs. Was more of an in jest comment. I don't know your kid or you, obviously. Feel free to call my kid a loser if he is 16 and showing ridiculous videos from lunatics. I won't get too upset, I promise.

And as folks have said. Most 16 years old are losers. It's the nature of being a kid. I was also a loser at that age.

 
If your wife does X, and I say "everyone who does X is a crazy person," I just called your wife a crazy person.  I don't see how that's confusing to you, but whatever. I don't feel like fighting about it.

Here's something I would like to discuss a little more- I believe the reason you said that was because you saw them as hypocrites for not explicitly protesting treatment of women by fundamentalist Muslims.  Correct?  I thought that was a silly argument to begin with and I explained why. And now Trump has passed an executive order designed to turn away those victims of mistreatment at our borders, forcing them back into the arms of their oppressors (as he said he would during his candidacy).  The marchers were protesting Trump and his policies, and thus by extension protesting on behalf of those victims.

Meanwhile, after expressing such "concern" for those Muslim women, you have continued to praise Trump and his actions as president and to my knowledge have not said one word about the refugee executive order. 

Just thought I'd point that out.
I couldn't really respond to it as the Executive Order wasn't released yet. I've heard that he is going to include establishing a safe zone in Syria for refugees, so we are not completely washing our hands of the situation.

We obviously can't offer political asylum to all Muslim women who are oppressed.  Not our role.  But we can certainly exert pressure on countries and religious leaders. My criticism of the Women's March was that this criticism of Islam was absent.  Perhaps the greatest injustice facing women in the world today, and not a peep about it.  

 
Well geeez. Sorry folks. And sorry Higgs. Was more of an in jest comment. I don't know your kid or you, obviously. Feel free to call my kid a loser if he is 16 and showing ridiculous videos from lunatics. I won't get too upset, I promise.

And as folks have said. Most 16 years old are losers. It's the nature of being a kid. I was also a loser at that age.
Apology accepted.   :thumbup:

 
I couldn't really respond to it as the Executive Order wasn't released yet. I've heard that he is going to include establishing a safe zone in Syria for refugees, so we are not completely washing our hands of the situation.

We obviously can't offer political asylum to all Muslim women who are oppressed.  Not our role.  But we can certainly exert pressure on countries and religious leaders. My criticism of the Women's March was that this criticism of Islam was absent.  Perhaps the greatest injustice facing women in the world today, and not a peep about it.  
I explained why I thought the criticism was silly then: partially because the protest did encapsulate treatment of Muslim women by radicals and the Trump campaign's pledge to turn them away at the border, partially because protesters don't have to satisfy your priorities, they can have their own, and its based on more than just greatest injustice. Part of it is about what they might actually be able to change, part of it is frankly is about making themselves feel better by coming together with large numbers of people who share their concerns (which is fine). Those arguments remain true.

But if you feel strongly about it, nothing is stopping you from joining the fight to protect Islamic women.  Your defense of Trump is obviously nonsense. Because we can't offer political asylum to all oppressed Muslim women we shouldn't offer asylum to any of them?   Come on.  You want to fight to protect those women, you should go for it. You have my complete support, let me know what I can do to help.

 
A push from the trolls to get this closed down,
Who in the hell are you calling a troll? I suggested shutting it down due to the personal comments about board member's children. I promise you sweetheart you don't want me to troll. If so, get your report button ready.

 
Who in the hell are you calling a troll? I suggested shutting it down due to the personal comments about board member's children. I promise you sweetheart you don't want me to troll. If so, get your report button ready.
beavers wasn't referring to you.

It was the questionable outrage from others that might have been happy to see a thread about the women's march go away.

If It makes you feel better, I for one am terrified of what would happen if you decided to troll.

 
Who in the hell are you calling a troll? I suggested shutting it down due to the personal comments about board member's children. I promise you sweetheart you don't want me to troll. If so, get your report button ready.
Buttercup, I didn't call you a troll.

 
While I've questioned the timing of this and wish the outpouring was pre-election, a terrific outcome would be identifying some true leadership from this movement. Not enough people could get behind HRC, ok I guess we get it, so they better get to identifying some actual potential candidates asap. Not corrupt ones with email servers, if we've learned anything here.

 
I haven't seen anyone trying to shut down the thread.  I do see beavers continue to call people buttercup and trolls, which is exactly what David said would kill these threads. 

 
You certainly quoted me and went on some long winded jibberish. Then someone else also said to shut it down and you stated " A push from the troll(s) to get this closed down " again followed by the same jibberish. 

I'm just following along with the discussion but decided to comment when things started getting too personal. 

Anyway, I'll let you get back to fighting your good  fight Sweet Lips.

 
I haven't seen anyone trying to shut down the thread.  I do see beavers continue to call people buttercup and trolls, which is exactly what David said would kill these threads. 
Excuse me officer, did you happen to see the post beavers replied to.

Before you write up your police report, perhaps you will take a look at it.  

See you at Dinky's Donuts, over and out.  

 

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