Worst NFL Drafts (1 Viewer)

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Buffalo-they wait until the 5th round to address a huge need, then pass on clausen in the 2nd so Edwards/Brohm can battle it out. I understand Spiller to the Bills b/c he could be the decoy/return guy/change of pace/3rd down guy they need however.

Cleveland- Haden wasn't much better(if any) then the first group of Wilson, McCourty, etc and they took him at 7??? bad move. TJ Ward at 38 was a reach as well as Hardesty in the late second. Not a big fan of RB's with multiple knee surgeries in college that have limited agility. Then to top it off...not like they passed on him 3 times or anything....but then Holmgren acts like McCoy is "his guy" at QB. I expected more out of Holmgren in this draft.

Denver- Instead of me putting down the obvious bad picks...I like Decker, Cox, thompson where they got them. I think Eric Decker will have a better career in Denver than D. Thomas.

Jags- Taking Alualu was bad enough....but then going small school on the rest of their draft.....bye bye Del Rio.

 

[Buffaloes]

Denver- Instead of me putting down the obvious bad picks...I like Decker, Cox, thompson where they got them. I think Eric Decker will have a better career in Denver than D. Thomas.

Admitted homer here but I loved their draft outside of Tebow. Thomas reminds me a lot of Marshall (minus the baggage) and I don't blame Denver at all for taking him over Dez Bryant who seems to be a bit of a head case and rumors swirl he may have an irregular heartbeat. I think picking a huge WR with open field skills is nice for an offense that uses so many short passes/screens that will allow him to get the ball in space. Then, as you said, they stole Cox and Decker. They also managed to bolster their interior OL which was the biggest need before the Marshall trade. The only spot they didn't hit was ILB. Outside of the Tebow pick (which may actually work out) I think it was a solid and smart draft.ETA: You mention obvious bad picks but outside of Tebow being a potential bad pick I don't see one that stands out as an obvious gaffe.

 

[vandyt]

Jags- Taking Alualu was bad enough....but then going small school on the rest of their draft.....bye bye Del Rio.

Did you say the same thing last year about the Jags?

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Buffalo is going to suck in 2010 no matter what. I think they are waiting for Locker, Luck, or Mallett next year instead of reaching for a guy this year.

 

[daveR]

Buffalo-they wait until the 5th round to address a huge need, then pass on clausen in the 2nd so Edwards/Brohm can battle it out. I understand Spiller to the Bills b/c he could be the decoy/return guy/change of pace/3rd down guy they need however.

Cleveland- Haden wasn't much better(if any) then the first group of Wilson, McCourty, etc and they took him at 7??? bad move. TJ Ward at 38 was a reach as well as Hardesty in the late second. Not a big fan of RB's with multiple knee surgeries in college that have limited agility. Then to top it off...not like they passed on him 3 times or anything....but then Holmgren acts like McCoy is "his guy" at QB. I expected more out of Holmgren in this draft.

Denver- Instead of me putting down the obvious bad picks...I like Decker, Cox, thompson where they got them. I think Eric Decker will have a better career in Denver than D. Thomas.

Jags- Taking Alualu was bad enough....but then going small school on the rest of their draft.....bye bye Del Rio.

So... Who would you have taken for the Browns with the seventh pick?

 

[vandyt]

Buffalo-they wait until the 5th round to address a huge need, then pass on clausen in the 2nd so Edwards/Brohm can battle it out. I understand Spiller to the Bills b/c he could be the decoy/return guy/change of pace/3rd down guy they need however.

Cleveland- Haden wasn't much better(if any) then the first group of Wilson, McCourty, etc and they took him at 7??? bad move. TJ Ward at 38 was a reach as well as Hardesty in the late second. Not a big fan of RB's with multiple knee surgeries in college that have limited agility. Then to top it off...not like they passed on him 3 times or anything....but then Holmgren acts like McCoy is "his guy" at QB. I expected more out of Holmgren in this draft.

Denver- Instead of me putting down the obvious bad picks...I like Decker, Cox, thompson where they got them. I think Eric Decker will have a better career in Denver than D. Thomas.

Jags- Taking Alualu was bad enough....but then going small school on the rest of their draft.....bye bye Del Rio.

I certainly agree with Buffalo.I'm going to add a couple:

Carolina

1) They release Delhomme, citing concerns over dividing the locker room in naming Matt Moore the starter. Then they draft Clausen over a number of WRs and TEs who would be very helpful in regards to making Moore a better QB. Do you want Moore to be your starter or not? Hes like 7-3 as a starter and has appeared capable, despite having Steve Smith and a number of near-Medicare-enrollees to throw to.

2) They trade a future #2 to draft a QB-convert who they potentially could have gotten as a 6th rounder or later.

3) They draft Pike in the 6th round...I like the pick, but are they really going to go into the season with Moore and 2 rookies? I doubt it...which makes them likely to try to sneak Pike onto their practice squad. Not sure that will work out.

Minnesota

Reaches galore, and even the one player I did like (Gerhart) doesn't really make any sense as far as what role he'll have behind AP.

New England

I didnt hate too much of their draft, but just feel the need to comment on Beli feeling the need to supplement his "thug" level on the team by adding Spikes. Maybe he and Vince Wilfork can compare eye-gouging notes.

 

[JaxBill]

Jags- Taking Alualu was bad enough....but then going small school on the rest of their draft.....bye bye Del Rio.

Bloom was one of the few who liked the William & Mary selection last year.http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...amp;hl=knighton

 

[JaxBill]

how come nobody is panning the Bengals' draft? Gresham is certainly a talented TE, but couldn't they have waited and gotten guys like Gronkowski or Aaron hernandez who have two good knees?

And the Bengals talk about wanting to go away from the bad characters but they draft a guy who costs his team by getting arrested the week before teh SEC championship?

 

[rascal]

Denver- Instead of me putting down the obvious bad picks...I like Decker, Cox, thompson where they got them. I think Eric Decker will have a better career in Denver than D. Thomas.

Admitted homer here but I loved their draft outside of Tebow. Thomas reminds me a lot of Marshall (minus the baggage) and I don't blame Denver at all for taking him over Dez Bryant who seems to be a bit of a head case and rumors swirl he may have an irregular heartbeat. I think picking a huge WR with open field skills is nice for an offense that uses so many short passes/screens that will allow him to get the ball in space. Then, as you said, they stole Cox and Decker. They also managed to bolster their interior OL which was the biggest need before the Marshall trade. The only spot they didn't hit was ILB. Outside of the Tebow pick (which may actually work out) I think it was a solid and smart draft.ETA: You mention obvious bad picks but outside of Tebow being a potential bad pick I don't see one that stands out as an obvious gaffe.

Throw in Beadles and Walton and the Broncos also upgraded their OL.

 

[Donnybrook]

Denver- Instead of me putting down the obvious bad picks...I like Decker, Cox, thompson where they got them. I think Eric Decker will have a better career in Denver than D. Thomas.

Admitted homer here but I loved their draft outside of Tebow. Thomas reminds me a lot of Marshall (minus the baggage) and I don't blame Denver at all for taking him over Dez Bryant who seems to be a bit of a head case and rumors swirl he may have an irregular heartbeat. I think picking a huge WR with open field skills is nice for an offense that uses so many short passes/screens that will allow him to get the ball in space. Then, as you said, they stole Cox and Decker. They also managed to bolster their interior OL which was the biggest need before the Marshall trade. The only spot they didn't hit was ILB. Outside of the Tebow pick (which may actually work out) I think it was a solid and smart draft.ETA: You mention obvious bad picks but outside of Tebow being a potential bad pick I don't see one that stands out as an obvious gaffe.

I agree. If Denver took Dan Williams instead of Tebow, their draft would be considered one of the better drafts.

Vikings had a sub-par draft. They did not anticipate Patrick Robinson going to the Saints and had to reach for Cook. I think they went with Cook because they figured he was safe pick. He has good size so if fails at CB, they could convert him to free safety. I was not real high on Gerhert when they drafted him. However, the more I learn about the young man the more I like him.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Buffalo-they wait until the 5th round to address a huge need, then pass on clausen in the 2nd so Edwards/Brohm can battle it out. I understand Spiller to the Bills b/c he could be the decoy/return guy/change of pace/3rd down guy they need however.

Cleveland- Haden wasn't much better(if any) then the first group of Wilson, McCourty, etc and they took him at 7??? bad move. TJ Ward at 38 was a reach as well as Hardesty in the late second. Not a big fan of RB's with multiple knee surgeries in college that have limited agility. Then to top it off...not like they passed on him 3 times or anything....but then Holmgren acts like McCoy is "his guy" at QB. I expected more out of Holmgren in this draft.

Denver- Instead of me putting down the obvious bad picks...I like Decker, Cox, thompson where they got them. I think Eric Decker will have a better career in Denver than D. Thomas.

Jags- Taking Alualu was bad enough....but then going small school on the rest of their draft.....bye bye Del Rio.

So... Who would you have taken for the Browns with the seventh pick?

I would've been more happy with any of the following at 7: Earl Thomas, Davis, Bulaga, Morgan.

I am also not a big fan of Haden....feel that he isn't much, if any, ahead of the other CB's in this draft.

At 37, Benn, Kindle, Clausen would've made more sense.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

Buffalo-they wait until the 5th round to address a huge need, then pass on clausen in the 2nd so Edwards/Brohm can battle it out. I understand Spiller to the Bills b/c he could be the decoy/return guy/change of pace/3rd down guy they need however.

NT, DE, and WR were also "huge needs" in addition to OT and QB. Obviously the Bills didn't think that Clausen was the answer at QB; they might be wrong, but most other NFL teams obviously agree with their assessment so it's not like they're all alone on this one.Overall, I'm very happy with Buffalo's draft.

Buffalo is going to suck in 2010 no matter what. I think they are waiting for Locker, Luck, or Mallett next year instead of reaching for a guy this year.

Exactly. It's not like the Bills just have one or two holes to plug and then the AFC East is theirs for the taking. They're at least another season or two away from being competitive.

 

[daveR]

Buffalo-they wait until the 5th round to address a huge need, then pass on clausen in the 2nd so Edwards/Brohm can battle it out. I understand Spiller to the Bills b/c he could be the decoy/return guy/change of pace/3rd down guy they need however.

Cleveland- Haden wasn't much better(if any) then the first group of Wilson, McCourty, etc and they took him at 7??? bad move. TJ Ward at 38 was a reach as well as Hardesty in the late second. Not a big fan of RB's with multiple knee surgeries in college that have limited agility. Then to top it off...not like they passed on him 3 times or anything....but then Holmgren acts like McCoy is "his guy" at QB. I expected more out of Holmgren in this draft.

Denver- Instead of me putting down the obvious bad picks...I like Decker, Cox, thompson where they got them. I think Eric Decker will have a better career in Denver than D. Thomas.

Jags- Taking Alualu was bad enough....but then going small school on the rest of their draft.....bye bye Del Rio.

So... Who would you have taken for the Browns with the seventh pick?

I would've been more happy with any of the following at 7: Earl Thomas, Davis, Bulaga, Morgan.

I am also not a big fan of Haden....feel that he isn't much, if any, ahead of the other CB's in this draft.

At 37, Benn, Kindle, Clausen would've made more sense.

So, you're saying that you think that Haden might be the best corner in the draft. Apparently that's what they thought, too. They said they remained true to their board.Benn, Kindle, Clausen would not have corrected the glaring problem of missed tackles in the secondary. You do realize that former Lions WR Mike Furrey was a starting DB by year end, right?

Their needs going in were: CB, S, OG, DE maybe, and a QB to groom. They filled most. IMO, to call this draft a "reach" is itself a reach.

ETA: Downfield speed at WR, too.

 

[daveR]

Clausen seems to be a theme here. If he turns out to be outstanding, then much of your evaluation will be confirmed.

 

[The Gatekeeper]

Buffalo-they wait until the 5th round to address a huge need, then pass on clausen in the 2nd so Edwards/Brohm can battle it out. I understand Spiller to the Bills b/c he could be the decoy/return guy/change of pace/3rd down guy they need however.

Cleveland- Haden wasn't much better(if any) then the first group of Wilson, McCourty, etc and they took him at 7??? bad move. TJ Ward at 38 was a reach as well as Hardesty in the late second. Not a big fan of RB's with multiple knee surgeries in college that have limited agility. Then to top it off...not like they passed on him 3 times or anything....but then Holmgren acts like McCoy is "his guy" at QB. I expected more out of Holmgren in this draft.

Denver- Instead of me putting down the obvious bad picks...I like Decker, Cox, thompson where they got them. I think Eric Decker will have a better career in Denver than D. Thomas.

Jags- Taking Alualu was bad enough....but then going small school on the rest of their draft.....bye bye Del Rio.

I certainly agree with Buffalo.I'm going to add a couple:

Carolina

1) They release Delhomme, citing concerns over dividing the locker room in naming Matt Moore the starter. Then they draft Clausen over a number of WRs and TEs who would be very helpful in regards to making Moore a better QB. Do you want Moore to be your starter or not? Hes like 7-3 as a starter and has appeared capable, despite having Steve Smith and a number of near-Medicare-enrollees to throw to.

2) They trade a future #2 to draft a QB-convert who they potentially could have gotten as a 6th rounder or later.

3) They draft Pike in the 6th round...I like the pick, but are they really going to go into the season with Moore and 2 rookies? I doubt it...which makes them likely to try to sneak Pike onto their practice squad. Not sure that will work out.

Minnesota

Reaches galore, and even the one player I did like (Gerhart) doesn't really make any sense as far as what role he'll have behind AP.

New England

I didnt hate too much of their draft, but just feel the need to comment on Beli feeling the need to supplement his "thug" level on the team by adding Spikes. Maybe he and Vince Wilfork can compare eye-gouging notes.

I think the Vikings did the opposite of reaching and got players like Gerhart and Everson Griffen that were projected to go earlier than they did. I love the Gerhart pick. I think AP slowed down at the end of the season and Gerhart will certainly help "soften up" defenses throughout the game. Any Viking fans remember Rick Fenney? Gerhart is money in the redzone like Fenney was and will do a nice job on 3rd downs either blocking or catching the ball out of the backfield. The knock on Everson Griffen was motivation and if playing with that D-Line, Adrian Peterson, and Brett Favre cant get him motivated than nothing will.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Buffalo-they wait until the 5th round to address a huge need, then pass on clausen in the 2nd so Edwards/Brohm can battle it out. I understand Spiller to the Bills b/c he could be the decoy/return guy/change of pace/3rd down guy they need however.

Cleveland- Haden wasn't much better(if any) then the first group of Wilson, McCourty, etc and they took him at 7??? bad move. TJ Ward at 38 was a reach as well as Hardesty in the late second. Not a big fan of RB's with multiple knee surgeries in college that have limited agility. Then to top it off...not like they passed on him 3 times or anything....but then Holmgren acts like McCoy is "his guy" at QB. I expected more out of Holmgren in this draft.

Denver- Instead of me putting down the obvious bad picks...I like Decker, Cox, thompson where they got them. I think Eric Decker will have a better career in Denver than D. Thomas.

Jags- Taking Alualu was bad enough....but then going small school on the rest of their draft.....bye bye Del Rio.

So... Who would you have taken for the Browns with the seventh pick?

I would've been more happy with any of the following at 7: Earl Thomas, Davis, Bulaga, Morgan.

I am also not a big fan of Haden....feel that he isn't much, if any, ahead of the other CB's in this draft.

At 37, Benn, Kindle, Clausen would've made more sense.

So, you're saying that you think that Haden might be the best corner in the draft. Apparently that's what they thought, too. They said they remained true to their board.Benn, Kindle, Clausen would not have corrected the glaring problem of missed tackles in the secondary. You do realize that former Lions WR Mike Furrey was a starting DB by year end, right?

Their needs going in were: CB, S, OG, DE maybe, and a QB to groom. They filled most. IMO, to call this draft a "reach" is itself a reach.

ETA: Downfield speed at WR, too.

The difference between Haden and Wilson in the draft was 22 picks....the talent difference was not that. I feel that the Browns would've been much better served to go Earl Thomas....who is faster...more athletic...and can also tackle. Then come back with either a CB, RT, Benn, Kindle, or Clausen.

 

[comet909]

how come nobody is panning the Bengals' draft? Gresham is certainly a talented TE, but couldn't they have waited and gotten guys like Gronkowski or Aaron hernandez who have two good knees?And the Bengals talk about wanting to go away from the bad characters but they draft a guy who costs his team by getting arrested the week before teh SEC championship?

Grokowski missed the whole season with chronic back issues. Hernandez comes with lot's of doubts about his blocking skills. And they've already got one of those in chase coffman.Yeah, Dunlap had a DUI. Read that they checked it out pretty deeply and determined it to be a one time thing. Team mates and coaches re-affirmed that he's not a bad guy. I think they picked Bernard Scott in the 6th round last year and he had about 7 arrests and had been to 3 or 4 different schools. That pick worked out. Just the way the draft works. Guys slip and you take a chance on them.

 

[wadegarrett]

Cleveland- Haden wasn't much better(if any) then the first group of Wilson, McCourty, etc and they took him at 7??? bad move. TJ Ward at 38 was a reach as well as Hardesty in the late second. Not a big fan of RB's with multiple knee surgeries in college that have limited agility. Then to top it off...not like they passed on him 3 times or anything....but then Holmgren acts like McCoy is "his guy" at QB. I expected more out of Holmgren in this draft.

they reached a little with Ward but the rest of their draft was solidone of the worst drafts this year?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Buffalo-they wait until the 5th round to address a huge need, then pass on clausen in the 2nd so Edwards/Brohm can battle it out. I understand Spiller to the Bills b/c he could be the decoy/return guy/change of pace/3rd down guy they need however.

Cleveland- Haden wasn't much better(if any) then the first group of Wilson, McCourty, etc and they took him at 7??? bad move. TJ Ward at 38 was a reach as well as Hardesty in the late second. Not a big fan of RB's with multiple knee surgeries in college that have limited agility. Then to top it off...not like they passed on him 3 times or anything....but then Holmgren acts like McCoy is "his guy" at QB. I expected more out of Holmgren in this draft.

Denver- Instead of me putting down the obvious bad picks...I like Decker, Cox, thompson where they got them. I think Eric Decker will have a better career in Denver than D. Thomas.

Jags- Taking Alualu was bad enough....but then going small school on the rest of their draft.....bye bye Del Rio.

So... Who would you have taken for the Browns with the seventh pick?

Based on the track history in Cleveland over the last decade I find the arrogance of this stance to be almost overwhelming. I'll go much further with this.

1. If you are taking the stance that there wasn't anything they could do, you are basically painting the organization as a sacrificial lamb for the rest of the NFL to feast upon. I honestly don't mind you framing the team in this light but I doubt you realize that your doing this. Many folks have posted that their teams could not work a trade to move down. It seems some teams can make trades and some can't...think of your dynasty leagues, it's amazing how the same owners seem to pull off the big trades while others never make a move and are always the victims. Cleveland is a Victicrat, is that what we're saying here?

2. The outright arrogance to think that your team got it right is beyond belief. Sure they took Joe Haden and he's a great player but Cleveland has nothing along their DL. This draft was loaded with DTs, even if they had to reach which they didn't. They could have easily maneuvered in the 2nd round to get one of the DTs that slipped but had a 1st round grade. Instead they reach 3 rounds ahead for a Safety. Rookie DB, Rookie Safety, no DL, they will be passed on all year.

my.02(1m)

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

Buffalo-they wait until the 5th round to address a huge need, then pass on clausen in the 2nd so Edwards/Brohm can battle it out. I understand Spiller to the Bills b/c he could be the decoy/return guy/change of pace/3rd down guy they need however.

Cleveland- Haden wasn't much better(if any) then the first group of Wilson, McCourty, etc and they took him at 7??? bad move. TJ Ward at 38 was a reach as well as Hardesty in the late second. Not a big fan of RB's with multiple knee surgeries in college that have limited agility. Then to top it off...not like they passed on him 3 times or anything....but then Holmgren acts like McCoy is "his guy" at QB. I expected more out of Holmgren in this draft.

Denver- Instead of me putting down the obvious bad picks...I like Decker, Cox, thompson where they got them. I think Eric Decker will have a better career in Denver than D. Thomas.

Jags- Taking Alualu was bad enough....but then going small school on the rest of their draft.....bye bye Del Rio.

So... Who would you have taken for the Browns with the seventh pick?

I would've been more happy with any of the following at 7: Earl Thomas, Davis, Bulaga, Morgan.

I am also not a big fan of Haden....feel that he isn't much, if any, ahead of the other CB's in this draft.

At 37, Benn, Kindle, Clausen would've made more sense.

So, you're saying that you think that Haden might be the best corner in the draft. Apparently that's what they thought, too. They said they remained true to their board.Benn, Kindle, Clausen would not have corrected the glaring problem of missed tackles in the secondary. You do realize that former Lions WR Mike Furrey was a starting DB by year end, right?

Their needs going in were: CB, S, OG, DE maybe, and a QB to groom. They filled most. IMO, to call this draft a "reach" is itself a reach.

ETA: Downfield speed at WR, too.

The difference between Haden and Wilson in the draft was 22 picks....the talent difference was not that. I feel that the Browns would've been much better served to go Earl Thomas....who is faster...more athletic...and can also tackle. Then come back with either a CB, RT, Benn, Kindle, or Clausen.

I agree that they could have went Thomas then took a CB but if they took Benn, Kindle, or Clausen with the 2nd I think I would have threw up in my mouth a little. Also, I think you may be underestimating the upside of Haden. He is already at the top of the CB class and he didn't play the position until college. His potential is sky high.

 

[massraider]

2. The outright arrogance to think that your team got it right is beyond belief.

Geez, take it easy. Isn't there a completely new front office in CLE?

 

[wadegarrett]

Based on the track history in Cleveland over the last decade I find the arrogance of this stance to be almost overwhelming.

What does the past decade have anything to do with 2010?

1. If you are taking the stance that there wasn't anything they could do, you are basically painting the organization as a sacrificial lamb for the rest of the NFL to feast upon. I honestly don't mind you framing the team in this light but I doubt you realize that your doing this. Many folks have posted that their teams could not work a trade to move down. It seems some teams can make trades and some can't...think of your dynasty leagues, it's amazing how the same owners seem to pull off the big trades while others never make a move and are always the victims. Cleveland is a Victicrat, is that what we're saying here?

wat?

Instead they reach 3 rounds ahead for a Safety

I don't recall reading anywhere that Ward was a 5th round prospect. Scouts had him going in the 3rd round to Dallas in one of their mocks. NFLDraftScout had him as their #2 SS. Don't think it's as big a reach as your saying it is.Browns had NUMEROUS holes to fill and their FO filled them just fine.

 

[The Man With No Name]

Who had the worst drafts really won't be known for 3-4 years.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

2. The outright arrogance to think that your team got it right is beyond belief.

Geez, take it easy. Isn't there a completely new front office in CLE?

The 5 deacons say...

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Based on the track history in Cleveland over the last decade I find the arrogance of this stance to be almost overwhelming.

What does the past decade have anything to do with 2010?

1. If you are taking the stance that there wasn't anything they could do, you are basically painting the organization as a sacrificial lamb for the rest of the NFL to feast upon. I honestly don't mind you framing the team in this light but I doubt you realize that your doing this. Many folks have posted that their teams could not work a trade to move down. It seems some teams can make trades and some can't...think of your dynasty leagues, it's amazing how the same owners seem to pull off the big trades while others never make a move and are always the victims. Cleveland is a Victicrat, is that what we're saying here?

wat?

Instead they reach 3 rounds ahead for a Safety

I don't recall reading anywhere that Ward was a 5th round prospect. Scouts had him going in the 3rd round to Dallas in one of their mocks. NFLDraftScout had him as their #2 SS. Don't think it's as big a reach as your saying it is.Browns had NUMEROUS holes to fill and their FO filled them just fine.

They were 29th against the pass last year, 28th against the run too. Their DL is/was terrible, and is even worse if that's possible. They won't be able to stop anyone from doing anything. They needed to rebuild that DL to help both the passing and rushing on defense. Wimbley from a few years ago was shipped, they really are close to an expansion team on defense. I'm just being honest about how I see the situation. You say they filled needs, and I think they should have started along the DL/OL. New England, NY Jets, Baltimore, Dalls, Minnesota...these teams are playoff caliber teams and they all are pretty strong along both sides of the line. Do you put the roof on the house 1st? No, you start with a foundation and in football that is the OL and DL. The DBs, WRs, those are the finishing touches usually. A great DL can make an average DB unit look really good. A bad DL can make even a strong DB unit appear awful when there is no pressure on the QB. But perhaps others feel much differently.

 

[Wadsworth]

Jags- Taking Alualu was bad enough....but then going small school on the rest of their draft.....bye bye Del Rio.

The Jags also got 3 other players out of this class of draft picks, Kirk Morrison, Derek Cox and Luke McCown. That's a proven starting MLB, a CB that started every game as a rookie and led the Jags in INTS(from a small school) and a solid back up QB added to the other picks.

I hope you are right about Del Rio, but this draft class really isn't close to as bad as it looks at first glance to the casual fan.

 

[PizzaDeliveryGuy]

Based on the track history in Cleveland over the last decade I find the arrogance of this stance to be almost overwhelming.

What does the past decade have anything to do with 2010?

1. If you are taking the stance that there wasn't anything they could do, you are basically painting the organization as a sacrificial lamb for the rest of the NFL to feast upon. I honestly don't mind you framing the team in this light but I doubt you realize that your doing this. Many folks have posted that their teams could not work a trade to move down. It seems some teams can make trades and some can't...think of your dynasty leagues, it's amazing how the same owners seem to pull off the big trades while others never make a move and are always the victims. Cleveland is a Victicrat, is that what we're saying here?

wat?

Instead they reach 3 rounds ahead for a Safety

I don't recall reading anywhere that Ward was a 5th round prospect. Scouts had him going in the 3rd round to Dallas in one of their mocks. NFLDraftScout had him as their #2 SS. Don't think it's as big a reach as your saying it is.Browns had NUMEROUS holes to fill and their FO filled them just fine.

They were 29th against the pass last year, 28th against the run too. Their DL is/was terrible, and is even worse if that's possible. They won't be able to stop anyone from doing anything. They needed to rebuild that DL to help both the passing and rushing on defense. Wimbley from a few years ago was shipped, they really are close to an expansion team on defense. I'm just being honest about how I see the situation. You say they filled needs, and I think they should have started along the DL/OL. New England, NY Jets, Baltimore, Dalls, Minnesota...these teams are playoff caliber teams and they all are pretty strong along both sides of the line. Do you put the roof on the house 1st? No, you start with a foundation and in football that is the OL and DL. The DBs, WRs, those are the finishing touches usually. A great DL can make an average DB unit look really good. A bad DL can make even a strong DB unit appear awful when there is no pressure on the QB. But perhaps others feel much differently.

Only 7 teams had more sacks last year and they still gave up that many yards through the air. The secondary was by far, the biggest problem on the defensive side of the ball.

 

[gandalas]

Not to mention, possible suspension aside, Shaun Rogers is not exactly horrible on the D-line. This is in response to the posting above

Sure they took Joe Haden and he's a great player but Cleveland has nothing along their DL

 

[ScottNorwood]

Buffalo-pass on clausen

lol